Okay, finally got around to starting this discussion on mozilla
plugin-futures.
- Mike
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:53 PM, John Abd-El-Malek j...@chromium.org wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Mike Morearty m...@morearty.com wrote:
So, since Flash is installed by means other than as
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Mike Morearty m...@morearty.com wrote:
Then let's say the Flash app hits the line where the breakpoint is.
The Flash player notifies Flash Builder of the breakpoint, and then
blocks, waiting on a socket until Flash Builder tells it what to do
next (e.g.
I think that is a reasonable feature request. It would be nice however if
there were some way to know when to restore the old behavior.
Unfortunately, Chrome won't know when you are done.
-Darin
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Mike Morearty m...@morearty.com wrote:
We just discussed that,
Also, the inspector already disables the hang monitor dynamically when
it stops at a breakpoint since the renderer is stopped at that point,
so this may just be a case of exposing this on-off switch via some
API.
Erik
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Evan Martin e...@chromium.org wrote:
I
For reference, something similar is done for popups:
void NPN_PushPopupsEnabledState(NPP instance, NPBool enabled);
void NPN_PopPopupsEnabledState(NPP instance);
Perhaps we can do the same thing here:
void NPN_PushPluginHangDetectorState(NPP instance, NPBool enabled);
void NPN_Pop
Another alternative would be a ping type call to say I'm
unresponsive, and I mean it. Like a watchdog timer. The plug-in
could still effectively be hung, but at least it has to have things
together enough to call the watchdog.
-scott
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:37 PM, John Abd-El-Malek
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:38 PM, John Abd-El-Malek j...@chromium.org wrote:
I presume you're referring to Chrome extensions? I don't see the advantage
of making this depend on the plugin being distributed via extensions.
How else would an end-user get a plugin installed for Chrome? I don't
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Scott Hess sh...@chromium.org wrote:
Another alternative would be a ping type call to say I'm
unresponsive, and I mean it. Like a watchdog timer. The plug-in
could still effectively be hung, but at least it has to have things
together enough to call the
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Mike Mammarella m...@chromium.org wrote:
Perhaps rather than disabling the hang monitor altogether what that
could do is add an additional option to the warning the first time:
don't notify me again. If you click that, then it will disable the
hang monitor
Since the hang dialog comes up in the future after you've shifted your
focus elsewhere, if we did any sort of user interaction at all I'd
rather the plug-in could say Ask user for permission to disable hang
monitor for this context right now. The plug-in hits the breakpoint,
calls that function,
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:37 PM, John Abd-El-Malek j...@chromium.org wrote:
For reference, something similar is done for popups:
void NPN_PushPopupsEnabledState(NPP instance, NPBool enabled);
void NPN_PopPopupsEnabledState(NPP instance);
Perhaps we can do the same thing here:
void
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Scott Hess sh...@chromium.org wrote:
Since the hang dialog comes up in the future after you've shifted your
focus elsewhere, if we did any sort of user interaction at all I'd
rather the plug-in could say Ask user for permission to disable hang
monitor for this
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:54 PM, John Tamplin j...@google.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:37 PM, John Abd-El-Malek j...@chromium.orgwrote:
For reference, something similar is done for popups:
void NPN_PushPopupsEnabledState(NPP instance, NPBool enabled);
void
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:44 PM, John Tamplin j...@google.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:38 PM, John Abd-El-Malek j...@chromium.orgwrote:
I presume you're referring to Chrome extensions? I don't see the
advantage of making this depend on the plugin being distributed via
extensions.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:44 PM, John Tamplin j...@google.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:38 PM, John Abd-El-Malek j...@chromium.orgwrote:
I presume you're referring to Chrome extensions? I don't see the
advantage of making this depend on the plugin being distributed via
extensions.
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Mike Morearty m...@morearty.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:54 PM, John Tamplin j...@google.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:37 PM, John Abd-El-Malek j...@chromium.orgwrote:
For reference, something similar is done for popups:
void
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:31 PM, John Abd-El-Malek j...@chromium.org wrote:
If this sounds good to you, the next step would be getting a broader
discussion with other browser vendors on the plugin-futures mailing list (
https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/plugin-futures).
Since the other
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:28 PM, John Abd-El-Malek j...@chromium.org wrote:
Through whatever plugin installer they have (i.e. Flash's installer) or the
toolkit (i.e. Flash Builder).
So are you suggesting there is a better way to package an NPAPI plugin for
Chrome than to build a CRX? On
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:32 PM, John Tamplin j...@google.com wrote:
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 7:31 PM, John Abd-El-Malek j...@chromium.orgwrote:
If this sounds good to you, the next step would be getting a broader
discussion with other browser vendors on the plugin-futures mailing list (
So, since Flash is installed by means other than as part of an Extension,
does that mean that John Tamplin's suggestion of giving permissions via
manifest.json won't work for me? I take it manifest.json is something that
only applies to extensions, and not to the other methods of installing a
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Mike Morearty m...@morearty.com wrote:
So, since Flash is installed by means other than as part of an Extension,
does that mean that John Tamplin's suggestion of giving permissions via
manifest.json won't work for me? I take it manifest.json is something that
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