Re: [c-nsp] ISR 4451-X route table size

2015-01-15 Thread Antoine Monnier
I would have classified the ISR 445x-X range of routers as hardware-based routers, based on the different hardwares (both memory and CPU/forwarding-engine) for control plane and data-plane. On the other hand, I understood that the ISR 443x range are software-based routers (same CPU/memory for

Re: [c-nsp] ISR 4451-X route table size

2015-01-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, January 15, 2015 03:06:05 AM Lukas Tribus wrote: As for the ASR1k, QFP based forwarding just never felt that hardware to me. It only works through massive parallelization, packets are passed to a free PPE thread which runs through a feature chain in software [2]. Of course

Re: [c-nsp] ISR 4451-X route table size

2015-01-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 06:52:43 PM Lukas Tribus wrote: Its a software router (similar to ASR1k), you don't have a real TCAM. Make sure you have at least 8GB RAM and you should be good. The ASR1000 is not a software router, in as far as FIB programming is concerned. Mark.

Re: [c-nsp] ISR 4451-X route table size

2015-01-15 Thread Šturmankin Miroslav
Message- From: cisco-nsp [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Fernando García Fernández Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 12:07 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] ISR 4451-X route table size HI Gert El 15/1/2015, a las 11:37, Gert Doering g

Re: [c-nsp] ISR 4451-X route table size

2015-01-15 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 02:06:05AM +0100, Lukas Tribus wrote: Perhaps the software- vs hardware-forwarding distinction is just becoming obsolete with those platforms, as the technical reality is somewhere in between. If you call hardware something that is pre-programmed and what is not

Re: [c-nsp] ISR 4451-X route table size

2015-01-15 Thread Fernando García Fernández
HI Gert El 15/1/2015, a las 11:37, Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de escribió: Hi, I tend to make the distinction at there's a general purpose CPU that handles data plane and control plane vs. the general purpose CPU does control plane, and dedicated 'magic stuff' handles packet

Re: [c-nsp] ISR 4451-X route table size

2015-01-15 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 12:07:21PM +0100, Fernando García Fernández wrote: El 15/1/2015, a las 11:37, Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de escribió: I tend to make the distinction at there's a general purpose CPU that handles data plane and control plane vs. the general purpose CPU does

Re: [c-nsp] ISR 4451-X route table size

2015-01-15 Thread sthaug
Interesting your distinction because Cisco says that the 4451: The product???s innovative hardware design splits the control and data planes between two multi-core CPUs??? Indeed, that's where my definition would not trivially apply either way :-) (And given how fast multipurpose CPUs

Re: [c-nsp] ISR 4451-X route table size

2015-01-15 Thread Phil Mayers
On 15/01/15 12:26, sth...@nethelp.no wrote: Interesting your distinction because Cisco says that the 4451: The product???s innovative hardware design splits the control and data planes between two multi-core CPUs??? Indeed, that's where my definition would not trivially apply either way :-)

Re: [c-nsp] ISR 4451-X route table size

2015-01-14 Thread Lukas Tribus
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 05:52:43PM +0100, Lukas Tribus wrote: Its a software router (similar to ASR1k), That's the first time I've heard someone call the ASR1k a software router... *raise eyebrow* The ISR44xx series certainly is, with multi-core data plane forwarding, an emulated QFP [...]

Re: [c-nsp] ISR 4451-X route table size

2015-01-14 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 05:52:43PM +0100, Lukas Tribus wrote: Its a software router (similar to ASR1k), That's the first time I've heard someone call the ASR1k a software router... *raise eyebrow* gert -- USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW!

Re: [c-nsp] ISR 4451-X route table size

2015-01-14 Thread Lukas Tribus
Hello all I’ve been googling during a long time trying to find the maximum route table size of the Cisco ISR-4451-X but I can’t find it. I would need a BGP full routing table and many internal routes (probably more than 2.000). Bandwidth is not a problem, the estimation is about 500

Re: [c-nsp] ISR 4451-X route table size

2015-01-14 Thread Roberto Alcântara
tcam on asr1k is used just to filters/policies not to routing table, am I right? - Roberto On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Lukas Tribus luky...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello all I’ve been googling during a long time trying to find the maximum route table size of the Cisco ISR-4451-X but I

Re: [c-nsp] ISR 4451-X route table size

2015-01-14 Thread Roberto Alcântara
ops, my bad. TCAM seems used for routing in ASR1k too: https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/11425186/ask-expert-introduction-cisco-asr-1000-series-aggregation-services-routers - Roberto On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Roberto Alcântara robe...@eletronica.org wrote: tcam on asr1k is