Re: [c-nsp] Smartnet pricing?

2011-01-06 Thread Hansen, Ulrich Vestergaard B. (E R WP EN ES 4 2)
Hi

Does anyone have a copy of this dossier - i cannot find it in the Internet 
anymore.

http://resources.multiven.com/dossier-3

Best regards
Ulrich 

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If you consider support contracts as insurance then it sounds crazy to pay
for the years you were not insured.  An example is fire insurance:  If you
buy fire insurance 10 years after a home is built, State Farm isn't going to
charge you for the first 10 years.  A quick inspection to verify that all
hardware is working may be required just to make sure there is no
pre-contract damage.

-J Scott

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:03 AM, Adam Armstrong li...@memetic.org wrote:

 e ninja wrote:

 Nick,
 *
 inline...*


 On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Nick Hilliard n...@inex.ie wrote:



 On 29/09/2009 19:20, e ninja wrote:



 No it is not right.

   1. Anybody that has paid for software, should *never* have to pay for
 bug
   fixes. See http://resources.multiven.com/dossier-3



 That is an interesting wish-list.  Have you considered what it would do
 to
 the price of software if vendors were made liable?



 *
 So vendors should not be made liable for software that people purchase?
 When
 was the last time you happily paid for a brand-new car that won't start?
 Software is always new because it can't break from over-use.* *Do
 Microsoft, Apple, HP etc. charge customers for bug fixes in their OS? *


  I can't imagine the insurance premiums, and the gratuitous law suits.
  Worse still, open source would be killed by it.


 *
 The bill of rights clearly refers to software that is paid for. Open
 source
 software is free.*


 In the UK we have laws stating that products should be fit for the purpose
 they're sold for (IANAL, though). Perhaps if it was tested in court
 properly, it would mean bug fixes which would prevent the use of the
 software safely would have to be provided free?  I do, however, suspect that
 EULAs try to strip away as much legal protection as possible from the
 customer.

   I know that if I were to be held liable, I wouldn't ever release anything
 or contribute anything to open source software.



 *
 N/A. If you offer free software that nobody has to purchase, you are not
 liable for the product.*



2. Forcing people to pay for a service they haven't used is


 extortionhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extortion- a criminal act -
 seek legal counse

 Legal counsel would probably argue that if you left your support
 subscription lapse and then attempted to renew it several years later,
 that
 the reason for doing so was because of some failure outside the
 manufacturer's control, and that you were pulling a fast one.


 *
 I'm sure as a smart guy, you know there is no wear-and-tear in software.
 Therefore, a user cannot 'break' software from over-use. All bugs in
 proprietary software are inherent from the manufacturer, whether you
 discover them from day 3 of purchase or 1000 years later.*


 Think of hardware support as insurance. The cost of providing the service
 when it finally breaks is spread across the entire lifetime of the contract.
 If someone has a device unsupported for 5 years, takes out support and it
 dies 2 years later, the supplier has lost the vast majority of the money
 they'd have used to pay for the replacement.

 Now, I don't think this should be the case for simple software upgrades,
 but I can see why it's the case for hardware replacement contracts. (And I
 can see why recert exists).

 adam.


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Re: [c-nsp] How to limit bandwidth on CISCO switch interfaces

2011-01-06 Thread Jens Neu
You are probalby looking for this: 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst2960/software/release/12.2_25_see/configuration/guide/swqos.html#wp1253412

regards
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Health Services Network Administration

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Mail: jens@biotronik.de



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I need to limit bandwidth on the trunk ports of two connected 
switches(2960 to 3750). It is currently transmitting at 100 mbps and I 
want to limit it to 50 mbps How can this be done? can anyone provide any 
steps or resources to get this done.
Thanks
Juan 


 
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Re: [c-nsp] Securing OSPFv3 on 6500/7600 Routers?

2011-01-06 Thread Andriy Bilous
There is also instance-id

R5(config-if)#ipv6 ospf 1 area 0 instance ?
  0-255  Instance ID

which you could call poor man's plain-text authentication in a
desperate attempt to prevent disasters caused by situations like the
one Mikael described. Neighbors with different instance-ids won't form
adjacencies. Can also be used on broadcast segments. Clearly not a
security feature by any means, could be helpfull though.

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 Pete,

 You could use inbound ACLs or CoPP policies that restrict inbound
 OSPF traffic from only the neighbors you know about.

 We have CoPP deployed, but it is not that restrictive today (since our
 v4 OSPF uses authentication).

 You could also move to unicast OSPF neighbor relationships to prevent
 any rogue OSPF speakers from peering.

 Most of our setups use Ethernet with the network point-to-point
 command since the routers are directly connected. Can you provide a link
 about the unicast OSPF neighbor relationship/configuration? My searching
 skills are failing me.

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Re: [c-nsp] Securing OSPFv3 on 6500/7600 Routers?

2011-01-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 06:45:48AM +0100, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
 I think it's a mistake of people implementing IPv6 protocols to design 
 them so that they have to rely on IPSEC for their 
 authentication/encryption, at least initially when IPSEC support seems to 
 be quite incomplete for platforms.

That's a somewhat philosophical question - IPv6 mandates(!) IPSEC support,
so protocol designers are doing the right thing in relying on established
crypto infrastructure that's supposed to be already there and well-tested,
instead of every one inventing their own scheme again and again.

Now, in real life, things tend to not work out that way - OSPFv3 is there,
IPSEC for IPv6 isn't.  So who's to blaim, the protocol designers, or the
vendors that choose to implement only bits and pieces of the protocol
suite?

But anyway, I seem to remember that OSPF+IPSEC is there on IOS... FN
agrees with me:

http://tools.cisco.com/ITDIT/CFN/Dispatch?act=featdesctask=displayfeatureId=2261
IPv6 Security: IPv6 IPSec to Authenticate OSPFv3

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/ipv6/configuration/guide/ip6-ospf.html#wp1069880
To use the IPsec AH, you must enable the ipv6 ospf authentication command...

Now the interesting question is whether this is available in any reasonable
subset of IOS versions...  the URL above claims it was added to 12.4(9)T,
and doesn't say a word about 12.2SX/12.2SR trains.  FN says it was added
to 12.3(4)T, but nothing about 12.2SX/R or IOS XR/IOS XE either.

So, for the original poster, this won't help.  (Please go to your BU and
complain that IOS feature distribution sucks big time...)

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Re: [c-nsp] Securing OSPFv3 on 6500/7600 Routers?

2011-01-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 01:11:17AM -0500, Devon True wrote:
 If anyone knows of a way to do this on a 6500/7600, please let me know. :)

Bash your cisco representative with something hard and painful.

It's sooo annoying that IPv6 features are randomly scattered around 
different IOS trains - and whatever hardware you have, the IOS version
that supports it will lack one of the IPv6 features all other IOSes have.

(Like, BFD for OSPFv3, which *is* in 12.2SR, but not in 12.2SX...)

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[c-nsp] Port profiles

2011-01-06 Thread Mark Meijerink
Hi there,

I wonder if Cisco supports features like port profiles for interfaces. I would 
like to configure a profile and then configure an interface to have a certain 
profile. So when I change the profile all the interfaces with that profile will 
be reconfigured, Does anyone know if Cisco supports this kind of feature? 
Thanks in advance.

Regards,
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Re: [c-nsp] How to limit bandwidth on CISCO switch interfaces

2011-01-06 Thread Andriy Bilous
That is correct answer, with some hidden side-effects though.
srr-queue bandwidth limit requires mls qos to be enabled globally. mls
qos by default places queue 1 on ALL egress ports in shaped mode and
reserves 1/25 * interface bandwidth = 4Mb/s on the 100Mb/s interface.
Shaped queue does NOT shrink with bandwidth limit configured for the
interface like one would expect. You either need to reassign weight,
as shaping value is always calculated relative to physical bandwidth,
or eliminate shaping all together.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Jens Neu jens@biotronik.com wrote:
 You are probalby looking for this:
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst2960/software/release/12.2_25_see/configuration/guide/swqos.html#wp1253412

 regards
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 Health Services Network Administration

 Phone: +49 (0) 30 68905-2412
 Mail: jens@biotronik.de



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 I need to limit bandwidth on the trunk ports of two connected
 switches(2960 to 3750). It is currently transmitting at 100 mbps and I
 want to limit it to 50 mbps How can this be done? can anyone provide any
 steps or resources to get this done.
 Thanks
 Juan



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Re: [c-nsp] Port profiles

2011-01-06 Thread Andriy Bilous
There is the smartports macros feature on switches only and it works
differently than you described - you have to apply macro to the
interface/interface range every time you've changed it and it does not
replace but adds the configuration to the existing configuration on
the port.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Mark Meijerink
mark.meijer...@vancis.nl wrote:
 Hi there,

 I wonder if Cisco supports features like port profiles for interfaces. I 
 would like to configure a profile and then configure an interface to have a 
 certain profile. So when I change the profile all the interfaces with that 
 profile will be reconfigured, Does anyone know if Cisco supports this kind of 
 feature? Thanks in advance.

 Regards,
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Re: [c-nsp] Port profiles

2011-01-06 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou

Nexus supports that.

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Mark Meijerink wrote on 06/01/2011 11:37:

Hi there,

I wonder if Cisco supports features like port profiles for interfaces. I would 
like to configure a profile and then configure an interface to have a certain 
profile. So when I change the profile all the interfaces with that profile will 
be reconfigured, Does anyone know if Cisco supports this kind of feature? 
Thanks in advance.

Regards,
  Mark
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Re: [c-nsp] Galvanic eletrical / optical fiber switchers for lab. Anyone know where to buy???

2011-01-06 Thread Colin Whittaker

I have a lot of positive experience with the MRV MCC family of managed
cross connects. http://www.mrv.com/tap/physical-layer/

They have cli and snmp management options and our supported by a bunch
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Re: [c-nsp] IOS - ipv6 uppercase in config - why ?

2011-01-06 Thread Brandon Daly

Have you read the Errata for RFC5952?  I'm fairly certain it now says that
the digits a-f must be uppercase, except where user derived, though I think
this is a fairly recent correction. 


Bran. 


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Subject: Re: [c-nsp] IOS - ipv6 uppercase in config - why ?

On 05/01/2011 16:01, Brandon Applegate wrote:
 Is there a reason that ipv6 addresses are stored with uppercase letters
 in config ?

yes.  See rfc4291, section 2.2, where all of the examples are in upper 
case.  These examples caused people to prefer upper case notation for ipv6 
address representation, although there was actually nothing in the document 
which actually mandated the use of upper case.

These recommendations have been updated in rfc5952, which requires (i.e. 
MUST) that all ipv6 addresses be represented in lower case.  This document 
is standards track, so I guess Cisco is going to have to change at some 
stage.  Given the current low levels of ipv6 deployment, sooner would be a 
lot less painful than later.

Nick

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Re: [c-nsp] IOS - ipv6 uppercase in config - why ?

2011-01-06 Thread Phil Mayers

On 06/01/11 11:58, Brandon Daly wrote:


Have you read the Errata for RFC5952?  I'm fairly certain it now says that
the digits a-f must be uppercase, except where user derived, though I think
this is a fairly recent correction.


That's an absolutely terrible errata: old-skool assemblers didn't 
accept lower-case hex digits, neither should we, stop being lazy and hit 
the shift key. I seriously hope it doesn't make it in on those grounds 
(I am agnostic on the upper/lower issue per-se, but that's a terrible 
rationale).

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Re: [c-nsp] redistribute routes leaked from another VRF?

2011-01-06 Thread Jeff Bacon
 More or less. You can also define an mdt data group range. When
 traffic for a particular (s,g) pair exceeds a configurable threshold,
a
 group is picked from this range and that (s,g) transitions to the new
 group in the default VRF, and PEs with receivers join this group. This
 means you don't flood high-bandwidth groups to every PE - just to PEs
 which are interested.

I just noticed this in SXI (only just getting there - I'm trying to read
through the release notes during morning exercise... could take weeks :(
). 

This however frightens me, because during that transition it seems as
though you're bound to drop a packet somewhere. It's ok if you're IPTV
or some other multimedia streaming, but for financial market data that's
a no-no of highest order. 

  Plus, GRE encap with MPLS means a recirc through the EARL so you pay
the
  latency penalty twice plus the extra load. And you need jumbo frames
to
  encap at full standard 1500 MTU.
 I was under the impression that there's no recirc in this case, but I
 could be wrong and can't find a reference.

You may be right - GRE for tunnels requires a recirc, GRE for MVPN might
not - the recirc for the tunnel is IIRC because they have to treat the
un-encap'ed tunnel packet as if it's a new inbound packet on the tunnel
SVI, for mdt they may be able to shortcut it. 

 As for MTU - if you're running MPLS you presumably have jumbos enabled
 anyway?

Doesn't mean your WAN provider gave you enough MTU to fit both headers,
though. (One provider I work with has all long-haul capped at 1546,
presumably a holdover from fast-enet days) 

  Hence, don't do it if you don't have a really good reason to. I
don't,
  so I don't.
 Well, the good reason for doing this is if you want multicast in
MPLS
 L3VPNs, surely ;o)

I don't want it that badly. :)

-bacon

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Re: [c-nsp] redistribute routes leaked from another VRF?

2011-01-06 Thread Phil Mayers

On 06/01/11 13:15, Jeff Bacon wrote:

More or less. You can also define an mdt data group range. When
traffic for a particular (s,g) pair exceeds a configurable threshold,

a

group is picked from this range and that (s,g) transitions to the new
group in the default VRF, and PEs with receivers join this group. This
means you don't flood high-bandwidth groups to every PE - just to PEs
which are interested.


I just noticed this in SXI (only just getting there - I'm trying to read
through the release notes during morning exercise... could take weeks :(
).

This however frightens me, because during that transition it seems as
though you're bound to drop a packet somewhere. It's ok if you're IPTV
or some other multimedia streaming, but for financial market data that's
a no-no of highest order.


Very probably. However this ought to only be an issue for streams where 
listeners are leaving and joining, or the bit-rate is changing to go 
above  below the threshold.


(It's worth noting the threshold detection is a bit sluggish as well - 
on the order of tens of seconds)


Obviously it's not optimal in all conditions.


As for MTU - if you're running MPLS you presumably have jumbos enabled
anyway?


Doesn't mean your WAN provider gave you enough MTU to fit both headers,
though. (One provider I work with has all long-haul capped at 1546,
presumably a holdover from fast-enet days)


True. There are other non-MPLS multicast MTU issues though; we've had 
problems with PIM registered between JunOS and IOS, where IOS fragments 
the inner packet, JunOS the final outer PIM register.


My rule of thumb based on experience here is that multicast with 1400 
byte packets is a grey area.


Is MVR any use to you? We're investigating a hybrid approach where 
certain multicast groups are distributed in the a multicast VLAN using 
MVR and access-lists. This multicast VLAN can then be in the default 
VRF. There are implications for bidirectional traffic of course, due to 
the RPF check...

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Re: [c-nsp] IOS - ipv6 uppercase in config - why ?

2011-01-06 Thread sthaug
  Have you read the Errata for RFC5952?  I'm fairly certain it now says that
  the digits a-f must be uppercase, except where user derived, though I think
  this is a fairly recent correction.
 
 That's an absolutely terrible errata: old-skool assemblers didn't 
 accept lower-case hex digits, neither should we, stop being lazy and hit 
 the shift key. I seriously hope it doesn't make it in on those grounds 
 (I am agnostic on the upper/lower issue per-se, but that's a terrible 
 rationale).

That errata was discussed on IPv6 lists, with agreement that this 
was *not* acceptable as an errata.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no
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Re: [c-nsp] DSCP Trust on 67xx cards

2011-01-06 Thread Robert Hass
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Peter Rathlev pe...@rathlev.dk wrote:

 Correct, the WS-X6708-10GE will do DSCP based scheduling, but AFAIK no
 other 6500/7600 LAN cards will.

10GE ports on SUP720-10GE and WS-X6716-10GE also have scheduling based on DSCP.

I any command on 6500 to look how many packets/octets has been
enqueued by each output queue (TX) ? I'm looking for silimar output
which I have on Cat3750 series:

#sh mls qos int gi1/0/2 statistics | begin ^  output queues enqueued
  output queues enqueued:
 queue:threshold1   threshold2   threshold3
---
 queue 0:   0   0   0
 queue 1:  36285471554671  245515
 queue 2:   0   0   0
 queue 3:   0   0   0

sh queueing interface X/Y shows me only drops...

Robert
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Re: [c-nsp] DSCP Trust on 67xx cards

2011-01-06 Thread Phil Mayers

On 06/01/11 14:23, Robert Hass wrote:

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Peter Rathlevpe...@rathlev.dk  wrote:


Correct, the WS-X6708-10GE will do DSCP based scheduling, but AFAIK no
other 6500/7600 LAN cards will.


10GE ports on SUP720-10GE and WS-X6716-10GE also have scheduling based on DSCP.

I any command on 6500 to look how many packets/octets has been
enqueued by each output queue (TX) ? I'm looking for silimar output
which I have on Cat3750 series:

#sh mls qos int gi1/0/2 statistics | begin ^  output queues enqueued
   output queues enqueued:
  queue:threshold1   threshold2   threshold3
---
  queue 0:   0   0   0
  queue 1:  36285471554671  245515
  queue 2:   0   0   0
  queue 3:   0   0   0

sh queueing interface X/Y shows me only drops...


I don't think this is present in the CLI or over SNMP, which is a shame.

You can get some more info from PFC QoS statistics export which is a 
line-based syslog format giving packet/byte counts by aggregate policer, 
ingress/egress class-map on port/port-channel/vlan.

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Re: [c-nsp] IOS - ipv6 uppercase in config - why ?

2011-01-06 Thread Elmar K. Bins
Morn' guys (and happy 2011 etc.)

ja...@puck.nether.net (Jared Mauch) wrote:

 3) You may be able to get something closer to this with the following:
 Router#sh run partition XXX

Doesn't really get you where you want to go.
I guess a very good thing'd be if the include were case insensitive.

Now - how do we get that feature request into Cisco?

(Actually, I really see no reason for case sensitiveness anyhow)

Elmar.


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Re: [c-nsp] IOS - ipv6 uppercase in config - why ?

2011-01-06 Thread Phil Mayers

On 06/01/11 14:14, Elmar K. Bins wrote:

Doesn't really get you where you want to go.
I guess a very good thing'd be if the include were case insensitive.



Well, it's a regexp so:

sh blah | inc 2001:[aA]0:

...will work
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Re: [c-nsp] Securing OSPFv3 on 6500/7600 Routers?

2011-01-06 Thread Pete Lumbis
Gert,

From what I can find support for OSPFv3 Auth on the Sup720 (SX/SR) is
roughly set for Q2 CY12. The information that mentioned that was from
November so I'd follow up with your account team/SE to see if this has
changed at all or to have them build a case to try and move this date
up, if at all possible.

Pete

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:30 AM, Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de wrote:
 Hi,

 On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 06:45:48AM +0100, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
 I think it's a mistake of people implementing IPv6 protocols to design
 them so that they have to rely on IPSEC for their
 authentication/encryption, at least initially when IPSEC support seems to
 be quite incomplete for platforms.

 That's a somewhat philosophical question - IPv6 mandates(!) IPSEC support,
 so protocol designers are doing the right thing in relying on established
 crypto infrastructure that's supposed to be already there and well-tested,
 instead of every one inventing their own scheme again and again.

 Now, in real life, things tend to not work out that way - OSPFv3 is there,
 IPSEC for IPv6 isn't.  So who's to blaim, the protocol designers, or the
 vendors that choose to implement only bits and pieces of the protocol
 suite?

 But anyway, I seem to remember that OSPF+IPSEC is there on IOS... FN
 agrees with me:

 http://tools.cisco.com/ITDIT/CFN/Dispatch?act=featdesctask=displayfeatureId=2261
 IPv6 Security: IPv6 IPSec to Authenticate OSPFv3

 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/ipv6/configuration/guide/ip6-ospf.html#wp1069880
 To use the IPsec AH, you must enable the ipv6 ospf authentication command...

 Now the interesting question is whether this is available in any reasonable
 subset of IOS versions...  the URL above claims it was added to 12.4(9)T,
 and doesn't say a word about 12.2SX/12.2SR trains.  FN says it was added
 to 12.3(4)T, but nothing about 12.2SX/R or IOS XR/IOS XE either.

 So, for the original poster, this won't help.  (Please go to your BU and
 complain that IOS feature distribution sucks big time...)

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Re: [c-nsp] Securing OSPFv3 on 6500/7600 Routers?

2011-01-06 Thread Phil Mayers

On 06/01/11 15:23, Pete Lumbis wrote:

Gert,

 From what I can find support for OSPFv3 Auth on the Sup720 (SX/SR) is
roughly set for Q2 CY12. The information that mentioned that was from
November so I'd follow up with your account team/SE to see if this has
changed at all or to have them build a case to try and move this date
up, if at all possible.


That's interesting; 2012 is being cited as the ship date for a whole lot 
of features on the SXn platform, even pretty trivial ones.


It's almost like they've frozen development pending a large 
announcement... ;o)

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Re: [c-nsp] Galvanic eletrical / optical fiber switchers for lab. Anyone know where to buy???

2011-01-06 Thread Jared Mauch

On Jan 6, 2011, at 6:31 AM, Colin Whittaker wrote:

 
 I have a lot of positive experience with the MRV MCC family of managed
 cross connects. http://www.mrv.com/tap/physical-layer/
 
 They have cli and snmp management options and our supported by a bunch
 of lab management systems to give nice drag and drop topology builders.

We've had good luck with the MRV hardware as well.  Did wish it would keep the 
x-connect up at reboot, they bounce if you need to reset the mgmt card (when it 
finishes booting that is) due to memory leak, etc.

- Jared
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Re: [c-nsp] IOS - ipv6 uppercase in config - why ?

2011-01-06 Thread Alan Buxey
Hi,

 Well, it's a regexp so:
 
 sh blah | inc 2001:[aA]0:

yep - was going to point this out - shame you cant do nice
extended stuff with eg /ff/i  etc

original poster can have joy with

show run | inc 2607:[a-fA-F][a-fA-F]70


alan
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Re: [c-nsp] IOS - ipv6 uppercase in config - why ?

2011-01-06 Thread Elmar K. Bins
Re Phil,

p.may...@imperial.ac.uk (Phil Mayers) wrote:

 Well, it's a regexp so:
 sh blah | inc 2001:[aA]0:
 ...will work

Although cumbersome, thanks for the hint, nonetheless.
Modifiers to the regexp would of course be much easier...

Elmar.


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Re: [c-nsp] Securing OSPFv3 on 6500/7600 Routers?

2011-01-06 Thread Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists
On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:33:04 +0100, you wrote:

 (Like, BFD for OSPFv3, which *is* in 12.2SR, but not in 12.2SX...)

Don't use a LAN platform. LANs don't need BFD :-P

-A

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Re: [c-nsp] 7600 updates

2011-01-06 Thread MKS
 100G can be expected in 2011 (or early 2012) for ASR9K and Nexus 7000.
 AFAIK you cannot expect 40G for 7600.

Are there any (public) reasons given for not offering 40G for 7600?

Regards
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Re: [c-nsp] Galvanic eletrical / optical fiber switchers for lab. Anyone know where to buy???

2011-01-06 Thread Keegan Holley
I have an apcon in my lab and it's works pretty well.  It's modular so you
can also do TDM connections.  The web interface is pretty simple as well.


On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Eric Hoelzle eric.hoel...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.apcon.com/solutions/?p=lab might be what you are looking for.

 I've heard positive things about them but have not used them personally.

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Re: [c-nsp] 7600 updates

2011-01-06 Thread Mohacsi Janos



On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, MKS wrote:


100G can be expected in 2011 (or early 2012) for ASR9K and Nexus 7000.
AFAIK you cannot expect 40G for 7600.


Are there any (public) reasons given for not offering 40G for 7600?


My assumption is the following:
- sup720/rsp720 series backplane connectivity capacity is 40Gbps
- there is no known plan from Cisco to have bigger capacity supervisor for 
76xx.

- Probably not economical to develop 1 port 40GE card
- If you need router like capabilities Cisco pushes you to go for 
ASR9K - Comparing pricewise 76xx with ES cards and ASR9K with low queue 
cards there is not much difference.


Best Regards,
Janos
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Re: [c-nsp] Securing OSPFv3 on 6500/7600 Routers?

2011-01-06 Thread Gert Doering
HI,

On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 03:31:28PM +, Phil Mayers wrote:
 It's almost like they've frozen development pending a large 
 announcement... ;o)

Sup2T will have all the features you've been waiting for for so long

Wanna bet?

gert
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Re: [c-nsp] Securing OSPFv3 on 6500/7600 Routers?

2011-01-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 05:28:39PM +0100, Asbjorn Hojmark - Lists wrote:
 On Thu, 6 Jan 2011 10:33:04 +0100, you wrote:
 
  (Like, BFD for OSPFv3, which *is* in 12.2SR, but not in 12.2SX...)
 
 Don't use a LAN platform. LANs don't need BFD :-P

Yes, I know.  Whatever we buy, afterwards we're told that for what we do,
this is not the right platform.

(I'm not starting either of my standard rants now, even if I'm stringly
tempted...  new year, new rants.  Maybe :-) ).

gert

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Re: [c-nsp] 7600 updates

2011-01-06 Thread Robert Hass
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Mohacsi Janos moha...@niif.hu wrote:

 - sup720/rsp720 series backplane connectivity capacity is 40Gbps

Same like Sup-2T new RSP-2T could do it. Wondering if new Sup-2T will
be MIPS or PPC. Probably PPC and IOS XE same like Sup7 for 4500. This
means Sup-2T can be the same for both - 6500 and 7600 series with
exception regarding IOS features - SR release (7600) versus SX release
(6500).

 - there is no known plan from Cisco to have bigger capacity supervisor for
 76xx.

In fact currently all 7600-S series chassis can provide 80Gbps per
slot. From 6500-E chassis only 6509-V-E supports 80Gbps per slot. So
7600 is more capable of 40Gbps for linerate 8x10GE cards for near
future.

 - Probably not economical to develop 1 port 40GE card

Like always Cisco can do oversubscribed 1:2 like WS-X6708-10GE :-)
Don't forget about local-switching at DFC... We have 7603-S deployed
where nearly all traffic (90%) is local switched at 8x10GE card. So
oversubscription here is not big deal.

 - If you need router like capabilities Cisco pushes you to go for ASR9K -
 Comparing pricewise 76xx with ES cards and ASR9K with low queue cards there
 is not much difference.

But if you already got a lot od 7600-S chassis and ES/ES+ cards then
... it's like 7600 will dropped to lower capacities PE router.

Robert
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Re: [c-nsp] 7600 updates

2011-01-06 Thread Mohacsi Janos




On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, Robert Hass wrote:


On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Mohacsi Janos moha...@niif.hu wrote:


- sup720/rsp720 series backplane connectivity capacity is 40Gbps


Same like Sup-2T new RSP-2T could do it. Wondering if new Sup-2T will
be MIPS or PPC. Probably PPC and IOS XE same like Sup7 for 4500. This
means Sup-2T can be the same for both - 6500 and 7600 series with
exception regarding IOS features - SR release (7600) versus SX release
(6500).


AFAIK SUP-2T is Cat6k only.

Best Regards,
Janos
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Re: [c-nsp] 7600 updates

2011-01-06 Thread Łukasz Bromirski

On 2011-01-06 18:59, Robert Hass wrote:


- sup720/rsp720 series backplane connectivity capacity is 40Gbps

Same like Sup-2T new RSP-2T could do it. Wondering if new Sup-2T will
be MIPS or PPC. Probably PPC and IOS XE same like Sup7 for 4500. This
means Sup-2T can be the same for both - 6500 and 7600 series with
exception regarding IOS features - SR release (7600) versus SX release
(6500).


Sup2T is targeted currently for 6500. It will run IOS XE.


In fact currently all 7600-S series chassis can provide 80Gbps per
slot. From 6500-E chassis only 6509-V-E supports 80Gbps per slot. So
7600 is more capable of 40Gbps for linerate 8x10GE cards for near
future.


No. All -E (6500) and -S (7600) chassis are capable of 80Gbit/s per
slot. It's just a matter of switch fabric to use that capability.
The current Sups for 6500 and current RSPs for 7600 max out at
2x20Gbit/s per LC, the Sup2T will have 2x40Gbit/s per LC.

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Re: [c-nsp] 7600 updates

2011-01-06 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou


Mohacsi Janos wrote on 06/01/2011 19:14:



On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, MKS wrote:

100G can be expected in 2011 (or early 2012) for ASR9K and Nexus 
7000.

AFAIK you cannot expect 40G for 7600.


Are there any (public) reasons given for not offering 40G for 7600?


My assumption is the following:
- sup720/rsp720 series backplane connectivity capacity is 40Gbps
- there is no known plan from Cisco to have bigger capacity supervisor 
for 76xx.

- Probably not economical to develop 1 port 40GE card
If i remember right, a 4x40G card (oversubscribed) is under 
consideration for the 6500/Sup2T.

Also, Nexus will get 6x40G and 2x100G cards, non-oversubscribed.

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ASR9K - Comparing pricewise 76xx with ES cards and ASR9K with low 
queue cards there is not much difference.


Best Regards,
Janos
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Re: [c-nsp] Securing OSPFv3 on 6500/7600 Routers?

2011-01-06 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Gert Doering g...@greenie.muc.de wrote:
 Hi,

 On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 01:11:17AM -0500, Devon True wrote:
 If anyone knows of a way to do this on a 6500/7600, please let me know. :)

 Bash your cisco representative with something hard and painful.

 It's sooo annoying that IPv6 features are randomly scattered around
 different IOS trains - and whatever hardware you have, the IOS version
 that supports it will lack one of the IPv6 features all other IOSes have.

 (Like, BFD for OSPFv3, which *is* in 12.2SR, but not in 12.2SX...)

Use your own government purchase power for that. By providing
assistance to your local government to have all the IPv6 features that
are really needed for a network in their RFPs, eventually those
features will end up in IOS-regex.


Rubens
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[c-nsp] ASR 9000 Newbie question

2011-01-06 Thread John Neiberger
We have a couple of new ASR 9k routers in our test lab. None of us
have had training on them yet and none of us know IOS-XR yet. One of
our engineers is installing the new blades and two of them are coming
up with red lights and are staying inactive. We can't figure out how
to troubleshoot this in XR. There doesn't seem to be anything in the
logs, which is weird. I suggested that he verify that logging is
configured. It could be that there are errors, but they're just not
being logged.

I've got the IOS XR Fundamentals book, but I don't see any commands
related to this yet.

Any thoughts?

Thanks!
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Re: [c-nsp] ASR 9000 Newbie question

2011-01-06 Thread David Prall
John,
Which cards and which version of IOS-XR is running on the RP's. Typical are
the cards supported by the IOS. Show diag is always a good place to start. 

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 -Original Message-
 From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-
 boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of John Neiberger
 Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 5:22 PM
 To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
 Subject: [c-nsp] ASR 9000 Newbie question
 
 We have a couple of new ASR 9k routers in our test lab. None of us
 have had training on them yet and none of us know IOS-XR yet. One of
 our engineers is installing the new blades and two of them are coming
 up with red lights and are staying inactive. We can't figure out how
 to troubleshoot this in XR. There doesn't seem to be anything in the
 logs, which is weird. I suggested that he verify that logging is
 configured. It could be that there are errors, but they're just not
 being logged.
 
 I've got the IOS XR Fundamentals book, but I don't see any commands
 related to this yet.
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Thanks!
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Re: [c-nsp] ASR 9000 Newbie question

2011-01-06 Thread Chris Evans
Dumb question.   But you powered it with 220 I hope...
On Jan 6, 2011 5:29 PM, John Neiberger jneiber...@gmail.com wrote:
 We have a couple of new ASR 9k routers in our test lab. None of us
 have had training on them yet and none of us know IOS-XR yet. One of
 our engineers is installing the new blades and two of them are coming
 up with red lights and are staying inactive. We can't figure out how
 to troubleshoot this in XR. There doesn't seem to be anything in the
 logs, which is weird. I suggested that he verify that logging is
 configured. It could be that there are errors, but they're just not
 being logged.

 I've got the IOS XR Fundamentals book, but I don't see any commands
 related to this yet.

 Any thoughts?

 Thanks!
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Re: [c-nsp] ASR 9000 Newbie question

2011-01-06 Thread John Neiberger
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Chris Evans chrisccnpsp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dumb question.   But you powered it with 220 I hope...

These are all good questions. I'll go ask the engineer who is
currently working on this.

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Re: [c-nsp] ASR 9000 Newbie question

2011-01-06 Thread Pshem Kowalczyk
Hi

On 7 January 2011 11:22, John Neiberger jneiber...@gmail.com wrote:
 We have a couple of new ASR 9k routers in our test lab. None of us
 have had training on them yet and none of us know IOS-XR yet. One of
 our engineers is installing the new blades and two of them are coming
 up with red lights and are staying inactive. We can't figure out how
 to troubleshoot this in XR. There doesn't seem to be anything in the
 logs, which is weird. I suggested that he verify that logging is
 configured. It could be that there are errors, but they're just not
 being logged.

On thing that comes to mind is DOA cards. What sort of cards are
those? (RP or port cards?)

 I've got the IOS XR Fundamentals book, but I don't see any commands
 related to this yet.

 Any thoughts?

Try the following,

sh platform summary location all

or for brief version
sh platform

that will tell you if the router knows about the cards at all.

kind regards
Pshem
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Re: [c-nsp] ASR 9000 Newbie question

2011-01-06 Thread John Neiberger
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:45 PM, John Neiberger jneiber...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Chris Evans chrisccnpsp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dumb question.   But you powered it with 220 I hope...

 These are all good questions. I'll go ask the engineer who is
 currently working on this.


These are powered with 220. We're running 3.7.3 code. I'm waiting on a
reply from our engineer to get the output of show platform and show
diag.

Thanks!

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Re: [c-nsp] 7600 updates

2011-01-06 Thread MKS
 My assumption is the following:
 - sup720/rsp720 series backplane connectivity capacity is 40Gbps
 - there is no known plan from Cisco to have bigger capacity supervisor for
 76xx.
 - Probably not economical to develop 1 port 40GE card
 - If you need router like capabilities Cisco pushes you to go for ASR9K -
 Comparing pricewise 76xx with ES cards and ASR9K with low queue cards there
 is not much difference.
Well, stated previously in this tread the 6500 is getting a 40GbE card

40G can be expected in 2011 (or early 2012) for ASR9K, Nexus 7000/5000, Cat 
6500.

So I can't see any reason for *not* making the same card available for
the 7600, well other than pushing the ASR9K platform...
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[c-nsp] Site to Site VPN using ASA and far end with dynamic peer

2011-01-06 Thread Scott Granados
Hi, I have a relatively simple question but the examples I find on cisco.com 
don't seem to do much but confuse me.:)

Here's the setup.  I have a Cisco ASA with several site to site VPN tunnels 
terminated to branch offices.  All to date have used static IP addressing on 
both sides so using the tunnel-group a.b.c.d type l2l has been very simple.  We 
now have a branch with PPPOE DSL and dynamic addressing.  Could someone provide 
an example of the ASA side how to accept a VPN site to site session from a 
remote device using a dynamic IP.

What do you use instead of the target tunnel-group / peer address entry?

Presently the ASA is running 8.2.x code using a normal dynamic map for remote 
clients and the standard crypto map entries for each peer. I assume it's some 
variation on the dynamic map theme but not quite sure how to make that work.

Any pointers would be appreciated.

Thanks
Scott


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Re: [c-nsp] ASR 9000 Newbie question

2011-01-06 Thread Jared Mauch
Unless there is a compelling reason otherwise, you should really be on 4.0.1 on 
ASR9K.

Stuff like the 8-Port 10G cards are not supported in 3.7.3, amongst other 
limitations you will encounter.

- Jared

On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:52 PM, John Neiberger wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:45 PM, John Neiberger jneiber...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Chris Evans chrisccnpsp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dumb question.   But you powered it with 220 I hope...
 
 These are all good questions. I'll go ask the engineer who is
 currently working on this.
 
 
 These are powered with 220. We're running 3.7.3 code. I'm waiting on a
 reply from our engineer to get the output of show platform and show
 diag.
 
 Thanks!
 
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Re: [c-nsp] Site to Site VPN using ASA and far end with dynamic peer

2011-01-06 Thread schilling
You have ASA/IOS routers on the branch office, right?

Cisco Easy VPN Remote Client might be what you are looking for. You
can use client mode or network extension mode according to your need.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/secursw/ps5299/index.html

Schilling

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Scott Granados sc...@granados-llc.net wrote:
 Hi, I have a relatively simple question but the examples I find on cisco.com 
 don't seem to do much but confuse me.:)

 Here's the setup.  I have a Cisco ASA with several site to site VPN tunnels 
 terminated to branch offices.  All to date have used static IP addressing on 
 both sides so using the tunnel-group a.b.c.d type l2l has been very simple.  
 We now have a branch with PPPOE DSL and dynamic addressing.  Could someone 
 provide an example of the ASA side how to accept a VPN site to site session 
 from a remote device using a dynamic IP.

 What do you use instead of the target tunnel-group / peer address entry?

 Presently the ASA is running 8.2.x code using a normal dynamic map for remote 
 clients and the standard crypto map entries for each peer. I assume it's some 
 variation on the dynamic map theme but not quite sure how to make that work.

 Any pointers would be appreciated.

 Thanks
 Scott


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Re: [c-nsp] Site to Site VPN using ASA and far end with dynamic peer

2011-01-06 Thread Scott Granados
Actually, the branch is an old Pix.

We also have an environment using a Juniper SRX so I'm not sure this is a good 
fit.  

Thanks
Scott

On Jan 6, 2011, at 4:34 PM, schilling wrote:

 You have ASA/IOS routers on the branch office, right?
 
 Cisco Easy VPN Remote Client might be what you are looking for. You
 can use client mode or network extension mode according to your need.
 
 http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/secursw/ps5299/index.html
 
 Schilling
 
 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Scott Granados sc...@granados-llc.net wrote:
 Hi, I have a relatively simple question but the examples I find on cisco.com 
 don't seem to do much but confuse me.:)
 
 Here's the setup.  I have a Cisco ASA with several site to site VPN tunnels 
 terminated to branch offices.  All to date have used static IP addressing on 
 both sides so using the tunnel-group a.b.c.d type l2l has been very simple.  
 We now have a branch with PPPOE DSL and dynamic addressing.  Could someone 
 provide an example of the ASA side how to accept a VPN site to site session 
 from a remote device using a dynamic IP.
 
 What do you use instead of the target tunnel-group / peer address entry?
 
 Presently the ASA is running 8.2.x code using a normal dynamic map for 
 remote clients and the standard crypto map entries for each peer. I assume 
 it's some variation on the dynamic map theme but not quite sure how to make 
 that work.
 
 Any pointers would be appreciated.
 
 Thanks
 Scott
 
 
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Re: [c-nsp] ASR 9000 Newbie question

2011-01-06 Thread John Neiberger
I found out that these are the 40-port GigE SFP blade and the 8-port
10Gig blades. Cisco advised us to go from 3.7.3 to 3.9.2 for now
instead of jumping straight to 4.0.1. We'll give that a whirl
tomorrow.

I've heard lots of great things about the ASR 9K, but I have to say
that IOS-XR is ugly, ugly, ugly. I'm still looking forward to getting
some of these bad boys fired up in production, though. The ugliness of
the CLI will wear off with familiarity, I'm sure.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:
 Unless there is a compelling reason otherwise, you should really be on 4.0.1 
 on ASR9K.

 Stuff like the 8-Port 10G cards are not supported in 3.7.3, amongst other 
 limitations you will encounter.

 - Jared

 On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:52 PM, John Neiberger wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:45 PM, John Neiberger jneiber...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Chris Evans chrisccnpsp...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Dumb question.   But you powered it with 220 I hope...

 These are all good questions. I'll go ask the engineer who is
 currently working on this.


 These are powered with 220. We're running 3.7.3 code. I'm waiting on a
 reply from our engineer to get the output of show platform and show
 diag.

 Thanks!

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Re: [c-nsp] ASR 9000 Newbie question

2011-01-06 Thread Chris Evans
Xr is badass imho.  It's more like junos as things are more broken out into
hierarchies..

The more you use it the more you will realize.
On Jan 6, 2011 9:27 PM, John Neiberger jneiber...@gmail.com wrote:
 I found out that these are the 40-port GigE SFP blade and the 8-port
 10Gig blades. Cisco advised us to go from 3.7.3 to 3.9.2 for now
 instead of jumping straight to 4.0.1. We'll give that a whirl
 tomorrow.

 I've heard lots of great things about the ASR 9K, but I have to say
 that IOS-XR is ugly, ugly, ugly. I'm still looking forward to getting
 some of these bad boys fired up in production, though. The ugliness of
 the CLI will wear off with familiarity, I'm sure.

 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:
 Unless there is a compelling reason otherwise, you should really be on
4.0.1 on ASR9K.

 Stuff like the 8-Port 10G cards are not supported in 3.7.3, amongst other
limitations you will encounter.

 - Jared

 On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:52 PM, John Neiberger wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:45 PM, John Neiberger jneiber...@gmail.com
wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Chris Evans chrisccnpsp...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Dumb question.   But you powered it with 220 I hope...

 These are all good questions. I'll go ask the engineer who is
 currently working on this.


 These are powered with 220. We're running 3.7.3 code. I'm waiting on a
 reply from our engineer to get the output of show platform and show
 diag.

 Thanks!

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Re: [c-nsp] ASR 9000 Newbie question

2011-01-06 Thread John Neiberger
I'm sure you're right, but the commands just seem unnecessarily
convoluted. I'm sure that's probably a side effect of the complexity
and flexibility, though. I'm also a total noob at XR, so take what I
say with a grain of salt. I'm just stating first impressions. I'm sure
we'll be loving it soon.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Chris Evans chrisccnpsp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Xr is badass imho.  It's more like junos as things are more broken out into
 hierarchies..

 The more you use it the more you will realize.

 On Jan 6, 2011 9:27 PM, John Neiberger jneiber...@gmail.com wrote:
 I found out that these are the 40-port GigE SFP blade and the 8-port
 10Gig blades. Cisco advised us to go from 3.7.3 to 3.9.2 for now
 instead of jumping straight to 4.0.1. We'll give that a whirl
 tomorrow.

 I've heard lots of great things about the ASR 9K, but I have to say
 that IOS-XR is ugly, ugly, ugly. I'm still looking forward to getting
 some of these bad boys fired up in production, though. The ugliness of
 the CLI will wear off with familiarity, I'm sure.

 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote:
 Unless there is a compelling reason otherwise, you should really be on
 4.0.1 on ASR9K.

 Stuff like the 8-Port 10G cards are not supported in 3.7.3, amongst other
 limitations you will encounter.

 - Jared

 On Jan 6, 2011, at 5:52 PM, John Neiberger wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:45 PM, John Neiberger jneiber...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Chris Evans chrisccnpsp...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 Dumb question.   But you powered it with 220 I hope...

 These are all good questions. I'll go ask the engineer who is
 currently working on this.


 These are powered with 220. We're running 3.7.3 code. I'm waiting on a
 reply from our engineer to get the output of show platform and show
 diag.

 Thanks!

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[c-nsp] policy and static nat mix?

2011-01-06 Thread Peter Serwe
I've got static NAT's setup for a network IP, and I want to NAT to a
different IP for a particular outside subnet specified in an ACL.

That IP is already statically nat'd to another device.

I've got the ACL crafted, but I'm unclear how to tie it to the outside I
want to tie it to.

Just to add to the complexity, that IP is already statically nat'd to
another inside address, but on a different inside interface

Inbound traffic (initiated from the outside) isn't a huge concern, although
I'd like to do it for that subnet if possible,
inbound return traffic should map back through the NAT (I think).

I can't seem to figure out how I can keep both static NAT's but for one /29,
specifically NAT to a different IP on the outside interface.

Peter

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