Re: [c-nsp] 'hitless' XR upgrades on ASR9k?
If i remember right, ISSU on ASR9k should be available in next major release. -- Tassos Mikael Abrahamsson wrote on 18/05/2011 06:18: On Tue, 17 May 2011, Jason Lixfeld wrote: Is there a way to do quasi-hitless XR upgrades on an ASR9k? I have two RSPs, so I'd be under the impression that I could load the new code onto the standby, reload it, then failover from the active to the standby but I can't find any specific instructions in any of the upgrade docs I'm reading, so I can't be sure. Afaik, ISSU between XR versions isn't available yet. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Open Source netflow recommendations
Hi, On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 08:21:58PM -0700, Lee Starnes wrote: Does anyone have any recommendations for an open source netflow solution? If there is nothing out there, what is recommended in the non-open source world? Are there any to absolutely stay away from? Checking the archives of this list will find a number of recommendations for nfdump/nfsen (and others, but nfdump is what I use and would always choose again). http://nfdump.sourceforge.net/ gert -- USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW! //www.muc.de/~gert/ Gert Doering - Munich, Germany g...@greenie.muc.de fax: +49-89-35655025g...@net.informatik.tu-muenchen.de pgp4x3LPA0tXb.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 6500 VSS question
On 05/18/2011 12:31 AM, Church, Charles wrote: Phil, The VSS is the 'bonding' of 2 6500 chassis into one, with one CLI controlling both chassis. Kind of like a 3750 stack. Up until I think ;o) I do know what VSS is and how it works; I meant I wasn't familiar with the specific operational details, because we don't use it. Good explanation though! your active sup is lost, the hot-standby (in other chassis) transitions to active, and the backup sup in the chassis which just lost the active sup will transition from RPR-warm to hot-standby. The VSS link exists between Thing is: if you lose your active sup, then your active switch fabric has gone, and you'll have an outage on that box until the RPR-warm sup can come up. Unless RPR+ is magically faster under VSS that it is in a plain chassis, that will always take 30 seconds won't it? What I mean is: RPR+ is slow. 30 second outage in the config you describe is what I'd expect, regardless of which linecard the VSL is on - because the switch fabric has gone away and takes 30 seconds to come back. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
[c-nsp] traffic not passing between Cisco 3750G and Cisco 7206vxr
Dear all; i faced a packet passing problem between Cisco 3750G and Cisco 7206vxr.Switch and router point to point connected also shown switch interface is up. Cisco Switch; Cisco WS-C3750G-24PS (PowerPC405) processor (revision F0) with 118784K/12280K bytes of memory. Last reset from power-on 3 Virtual Ethernet interfaces 28 Gigabit Ethernet interfaces Port configuration: interface GigabitEthernet1/0/1 description PP2.CORE power inline never switchport access vlan 102 switchport mode access load-interval 30 speed 100 duplex full Router Port Config : interface FastEthernet1/0 no ip redirects no ip unreachables no ip proxy-arp load-interval 30 duplex full Router Information: Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) 7200 Software (C7200-IS-M), Version 12.3(1a), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Image text-base: 0x60008954, data-base: 0x61C02000 ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 12.1(2710:044039) [nlaw-121E_npeb 117], DEVELOPMENT SOFTWARE BOOTLDR: 7200 Software (C7200-BOOT-M), Version 12.0(13)S, EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) System image file is sup-slot0:/c7200-is-mz.123-1a.bin cisco 7204VXR (NPE225) processor (revision A) with 245760K/16384K bytes of memory. R527x CPU at 262Mhz, Implementation 40, Rev 10.0, 2048KB L2 Cache 4 slot VXR midplane, Version 2.1 if you have any idea please share it. thanks jahangir ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] off-topic NMS Suggestion
+1 for the open source! There are OpenNMS, Zenoss, and a lot of others, and if you really want to pay, you can get an overall support from some of them, from the very first implementation as well as ongoing support. Commercially talking, I've seen Solarwinds have nice user-friendly product family named Orion, there are a few nice tools, it's built on a modular base, so you can buy only one, or integrate few of them. And is not really expensive, prices are reasonable. Ziv -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Daniel Lacey Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 6:01 AM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] off-topic NMS Suggestion The best NMS solutions are open source. (My opinion... :-) You can get paid support if that is the issue, from installation to on-going configuration support. You should investigate what support teams are using to monitor large networks. Papa John's for example monitors 3400 locations requiring only one person on duty Open source NMS... You will save a ton of money as well... |--- | Dan Lacey daniel_p_la...@yahoo.com | PGP Key: 0xFE94668F @ http://pgp.mit.edu or http://keyserver.pgp.com | PGP Key fingerprint: 8A97 2996 266D A21C 0277 54EF 40D5 2B80 FE94 668F |--- On 5/17/11 7:38 PM, omar parihuana wrote: Hi List, Please could you suggest me a NMS for WAN/LAN? the WAN is a MPLS/VPN (300 remote offices) and the Switching is a campus LAN (aprox 1000 Network Devices) and three remote buildings (aprox Network 200 devices in each building). Before I tried Cisco Works but I faced some issues; HP Openview was difficult also. We need a easy web interface for monitoring and reporting (unfortunately no open source solutions are accepted). Thank you for your suggestions. Rgds. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. The information contained in this e-mail message and its attachments is confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the sender, and then delete the message from your computer. Thank you! This mail was sent via Mail-SeCure System. This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] 'hitless' XR upgrades on ASR9k?
You mean like the 4.1.0 release that just came out? On 2011-05-18, at 2:38 AM, Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: If i remember right, ISSU on ASR9k should be available in next major release. -- Tassos Mikael Abrahamsson wrote on 18/05/2011 06:18: On Tue, 17 May 2011, Jason Lixfeld wrote: Is there a way to do quasi-hitless XR upgrades on an ASR9k? I have two RSPs, so I'd be under the impression that I could load the new code onto the standby, reload it, then failover from the active to the standby but I can't find any specific instructions in any of the upgrade docs I'm reading, so I can't be sure. Afaik, ISSU between XR versions isn't available yet. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Open Source netflow recommendations
On Tue, 17 May 2011, Lee Starnes wrote: Does anyone have any recommendations for an open source netflow solution? If there is nothing out there, what is recommended in the non-open source world? Are there any to absolutely stay away from? The answer to that question would depend on what you want to do with the Netflow data you collect. If you're mainly interested in generating graphs and top-talker reports, NFSen/NFDump is a very usable option. If you're looking for something that does more than that, then you're getting into the realm of commercial applications. Another increasingly important question is if you want or need Netflow v9/v10 (IPFIX) support, to get Netflow data for IPv6 traffic. This becomes important, not only in terms of gauging the capabilities of your Netflow collection/analysis setup, but also determining features and pricing for new router hardware/software/licensing. Both Cisco and Juniper are moving toward a model where certain features need to be individually licensed and activated, or additional hardware needs to be purchased (Juniper's Multiservices PICs/MPCs for the M/MX platforms comes to mind). jms ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
[c-nsp] ME3400E: Untagged traffic on 802.1ad S-UNI interface
Hello, The 802.1ad documentation on CCO is relatively weak, so I have question regarding untagged traffic arriving on S-UNI interface configured on Cat ME4300E. Is it S-tagged or dropped ? What about C-UNI ? Any special kind of vlan translation can be applied to map untagged traffic ? Regards, Maciej Pawlowski ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Open Source netflow recommendations
On 18/05/2011 14:13, Justin M. Streiner wrote: Another increasingly important question is if you want or need Netflow v9/v10 (IPFIX) support, to get Netflow data for IPv6 traffic. Or more likely, ipfix attributes using netflowv9 encoding format - this is the latest vendor trick. Standards? let's make some more and then ignore them, sigh. activated, or additional hardware needs to be purchased (Juniper's Multiservices PICs/MPCs for the M/MX platforms comes to mind). If you're using MPC cards on Juniper MX platform, yes you need an MS-DPC for ipv6 netflow. However, this is done natively on the newer trio cards. If you want Netflow on J series boxes, you can kiss performance goodbye. Juniper are still pushing the here's the hardware, but if you actually want to use it, we're going to gouge you for more model for netflow. Thankfully, Cisco aren't doing this on any of their platforms. Nick ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Open Source netflow recommendations
Hi, On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 03:20:14PM +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote: Juniper are still pushing the here's the hardware, but if you actually want to use it, we're going to gouge you for more model for netflow. Thankfully, Cisco aren't doing this on any of their platforms. Have they abandoned that? $Earlier versions of IOS on 7200s required a (pricey!) netflow license. ... and I wouldn't be surprised to see extra licenses for netflow on the ES line cards and for $anythingonCRS1... From what we hear from colleagues that got CRS1, Cisco is fully back in need extra licenses for anything! land now - *plus* the hardware enforces licenses *and* their license management is seriously fubared (this is how the story goes: power outage, CRS-1 came back without any valid licenses, took TAC a week to restore licenses). Well, colleagues have learned, and will never ever buy anything again that requires licenses to be stored on the device... gert -- USENET is *not* the non-clickable part of WWW! //www.muc.de/~gert/ Gert Doering - Munich, Germany g...@greenie.muc.de fax: +49-89-35655025g...@net.informatik.tu-muenchen.de pgpC5BsMoVdAP.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] off-topic NMS Suggestion
Commercially talking, I've seen Solarwinds have nice user-friendly product family named Orion, there are a few nice tools, it's built on a modular base, so you can buy only one, or integrate few of them. And is not really expensive, prices are reasonable. As a Solarwinds customer let me say a few words... It is a pretty decent product from an interface perspective and yes, not too expensive in the grand scheme of things. It is fullfeatured and not too fiddly However, installation/maintenance of the software is a huge time sink. It is so bad that our policy is to always hire a consultant to come on-site and do the upgrade. The consultant is typically on the phone with Solarwinds support for most of the day dealing with some database or licensing issues. If it were a free or open source application this would be expected. In the commercial world, a bit more polish is expected of a $30K piece of software. Make sure you budget for this kind of time or level of support if you go there. The hardware requirements are also a bit of a concern as one scales up; make sure you have enough RAM and disk I/O. Caveat Emptor! ~JasonG ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Open Source netflow recommendations
cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net wrote on 05/17/2011 11:21:58 PM: Does anyone have any recommendations for an open source netflow solution? If there is nothing out there, what is recommended in the non-open source world? Are there any to absolutely stay away from? Another netflow v5 option: FlowViewer / flow-tools. http://ensight.eos.nasa.gov/FlowViewer/ Joe ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Open Source netflow recommendations
On Wed, May 18, 2011, at 16:38:39 +0200, Gert Doering wrote: On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 03:20:14PM +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote: Juniper are still pushing the here's the hardware, but if you actually want to use it, we're going to gouge you for more model for netflow. Thankfully, Cisco aren't doing this on any of their platforms. Have they abandoned that? $Earlier versions of IOS on 7200s required a (pricey!) netflow license. Most IOS versions I've encountered in recent memory do not require a Netflow license. ... and I wouldn't be surprised to see extra licenses for netflow on the ES line cards and for $anythingonCRS1... From what we hear from colleagues that got CRS1, Cisco is fully back in need extra licenses for anything! land now - *plus* the hardware enforces licenses *and* their license management is seriously fubared (this is how the story goes: power outage, CRS-1 came back without any valid licenses, took TAC a week to restore licenses). Well, colleagues have learned, and will never ever buy anything again that requires licenses to be stored on the device... I don't know about the CRS1, but I know on the Nexus 7000s, there is a separate Layer 3 license that needs to be purchased, unless you just want it to be a big layer 2 switch. There might be other licenses needed as well. I don't know if Netflow v9 is a separate license. Netflow v5 appears to be part of the of the Layer 3 license in NX-OS. jms ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Open Source netflow recommendations
Hi, Another netflow v5 option: FlowViewer / flow-tools. http://ensight.eos.nasa.gov/FlowViewer/ yes, was going to mention this - its often overlooked - the page has links to the latest flow-tools maintained package too. however, as other post says, these days its all about the netflow v9 or NDE :-) alan ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
[c-nsp] BGP communities and VRFs...
If you have VRF-enabled a router (well, a 6500), does this affect BGP community processing at all? (Suspecting community overlap with VRF route distinguishers?) Trying to get a new BGP peer up that has VRF-enabled, but BGP running in global, and a matching community / route-map configuration in the legacy side (no VRFs) doesn't appear to be working on the VRF-enabled one. Jeff ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] BGP communities and VRFs...
Vrf uses Bgp extended communities. Not standard. So no.. Hope this is your question. On May 18, 2011 2:07 PM, Jeff Kell jeff-k...@utc.edu wrote: If you have VRF-enabled a router (well, a 6500), does this affect BGP community processing at all? (Suspecting community overlap with VRF route distinguishers?) Trying to get a new BGP peer up that has VRF-enabled, but BGP running in global, and a matching community / route-map configuration in the legacy side (no VRFs) doesn't appear to be working on the VRF-enabled one. Jeff ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
[c-nsp] looping
hi : I am having 1000 nos of 2811 router and it is comming under ospf 100 and it is comunicate through my mpls by using bgp. but while i am giving tracert : i am getting loop ing some of the locations. bgp path some times it is not taking propoerly. -- With Thanx, Sagar sampad Mall ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Open Source netflow recommendations
If vendors start playing games with license fees per feature (to pad their revenues), then one either conform or work-around them. If this pertains to netflow, I've done something like the following in the past: * span traffic to pkt collector * on pkt collector, run something like fprobe to convert raw pkt to flow format * export flow to said flow collector This man-in-the-middle approach may be somewhat silly to bypass licensed netflow feature, and could be moot if one needed another license to do spans. Regards, Ge Moua On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Justin M. Streiner strei...@cluebyfour.org wrote: On Tue, 17 May 2011, Lee Starnes wrote: Does anyone have any recommendations for an open source netflow solution? If there is nothing out there, what is recommended in the non-open source world? Are there any to absolutely stay away from? The answer to that question would depend on what you want to do with the Netflow data you collect. If you're mainly interested in generating graphs and top-talker reports, NFSen/NFDump is a very usable option. If you're looking for something that does more than that, then you're getting into the realm of commercial applications. Another increasingly important question is if you want or need Netflow v9/v10 (IPFIX) support, to get Netflow data for IPv6 traffic. This becomes important, not only in terms of gauging the capabilities of your Netflow collection/analysis setup, but also determining features and pricing for new router hardware/software/licensing. Both Cisco and Juniper are moving toward a model where certain features need to be individually licensed and activated, or additional hardware needs to be purchased (Juniper's Multiservices PICs/MPCs for the M/MX platforms comes to mind). jms ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Open Source netflow recommendations
If vendors start playing games with license fees per feature (to pad their revenues), then one either conform or work-around them. If this pertains to netflow, I've done something like the following in the past: * span traffic to pkt collector * on pkt collector, run something like fprobe to convert raw pkt to flow format * export flow to said flow collector You then have the problems of packet rates (unless you can get sampling before spanning to the traffic collector) plus you lose ifIndex, which for some of us is rather important. In other words, not a solution for all of us. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Open Source netflow recommendations
On 18/05/2011 19:28, Ge Moua wrote: This man-in-the-middle approach may be somewhat silly to bypass licensed netflow feature, and could be moot if one needed another license to do spans. doesn't scale though. What happens when your 10G link is saturated in both directions? Nick ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Open Source netflow recommendations
On Wed, 18 May 2011, Ge Moua wrote: If vendors start playing games with license fees per feature (to pad their revenues), then one either conform or work-around them. If this pertains to netflow, I've done something like the following in the past: * span traffic to pkt collector * on pkt collector, run something like fprobe to convert raw pkt to flow format * export flow to said flow collector This man-in-the-middle approach may be somewhat silly to bypass licensed netflow feature, and could be moot if one needed another license to do spans. If someone needed to do that, they certainly could. One thing that could become more difficult in that scenario is the ability to view and manipulate Netflow data based on AS number. To get that from a packet collector, the collector would need to be able to speak BGP with the appropriate devices on your network, and then insert the AS data into the exported Netflow packets. As others have mentioned you'd also lose ifIndex, which could make tracing a flow across the network more involved. jms ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] off-topic NMS Suggestion
I have used WhatsUp Gold from IPswitch for a couple of years. It can do everything we need it to do and more and it relatively inexpensive. I would say that it's comparable to Solarwinds. Check them out and good luck Sent from my iPhone On May 17, 2011, at 10:38 PM, omar parihuana omar.parihu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, Please could you suggest me a NMS for WAN/LAN? the WAN is a MPLS/VPN (300 remote offices) and the Switching is a campus LAN (aprox 1000 Network Devices) and three remote buildings (aprox Network 200 devices in each building). Before I tried Cisco Works but I faced some issues; HP Openview was difficult also. We need a easy web interface for monitoring and reporting (unfortunately no open source solutions are accepted). Thank you for your suggestions. Rgds. -- Omar E.P.T - Certified Networking Professionals make better Connections! ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
[c-nsp] PWE3 suggestions?
Hi all, I have an adtran TA5000 and it's got a 32 port t1 card that does pseudowire. Adtran itself can't seem to give me any usage guidelines or examples using anything for pwe3 other than their own (non-desireable) mx480 product. We want to have a 7200 or something else in the cisco family that can take t1's over pseudowire and route and such but we are having a hard time figuring this out. Is there anyone who has PWE3 experience or can reccomend something in the cisco family we might use here? We don't need gigabits per second, just something we can aggregate subscribers on pseudowire t1's. Thanks. Mike- ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] PWE3 suggestions?
Apparently these Cisco devices support pseudo wire: Cisco 2650XM, Cisco 2651XM, Cisco 2691, Cisco 3660 Series, Cisco 3725, and Cisco 3745 Routers Cisco 7200 Series Routers Cisco 7500 Series Routers Cisco AS5800 Access Servers and Cisco 1 Series Routers ~Jay -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 2:52 PM To: 'Cisco-nsp' Subject: [c-nsp] PWE3 suggestions? Hi all, I have an adtran TA5000 and it's got a 32 port t1 card that does pseudowire. Adtran itself can't seem to give me any usage guidelines or examples using anything for pwe3 other than their own (non-desireable) mx480 product. We want to have a 7200 or something else in the cisco family that can take t1's over pseudowire and route and such but we are having a hard time figuring this out. Is there anyone who has PWE3 experience or can reccomend something in the cisco family we might use here? We don't need gigabits per second, just something we can aggregate subscribers on pseudowire t1's. Thanks. Mike- ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] PWE3 suggestions?
On 2011-05-18 22:51, Mike wrote: Hi all, I have an adtran TA5000 and it's got a 32 port t1 card that does pseudowire. Adtran itself can't seem to give me any usage guidelines or examples using anything for pwe3 other than their own (non-desireable) mx480 product. We want to have a 7200 or something else in the cisco family that can take t1's over pseudowire and route and such but we are having a hard time figuring this out. Is there anyone who has PWE3 experience or can reccomend something in the cisco family we might use here? We don't need gigabits per second, just something we can aggregate subscribers on pseudowire t1's. Any decent ISR will do - 2900, 3900 series is your friend coupled with VWIC3's. 7200 is of course an option given NPE-G1/G2 and appropriate PAs. Question is scale of T1 ports. -- There's no sense in being precise when | Łukasz Bromirski you don't know what you're talking | jid:lbromir...@jabber.org about. John von Neumann |http://lukasz.bromirski.net ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] off-topic NMS Suggestion
Hi, On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:38 PM, omar parihuana omar.parihu...@gmail.com wrote: Please could you suggest me a NMS for WAN/LAN? Strictly speaking it's not an NMS but based on your requirements of monitoring and reporting, I recommend Statseeker -- www.statseeker.com. Cheers, Dale ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] off-topic NMS Suggestion
Hi Omar, Ciscoworks LMS 4.0 has gone pretty extensive changes in the UI / UX space. it's also very competitively priced respect to the other mgmt solutions out there. You can take the eval version it for a spin and see if it's something you want to roll out. http://www.cisco.com/go/lms https://cisco.mediuscorp.com/market/networkers/homeWork.se.work http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/net_mgmt/ciscoworks_lan_management_solution/4.0/install/guide/prep.html#wp1316880 regards .siva On Wed, 18 May 2011, Jorge Rodriguez wrote: I have used WhatsUp Gold from IPswitch for a couple of years. It can do everything we need it to do and more and it relatively inexpensive. I would say that it's comparable to Solarwinds. Check them out and good luck Sent from my iPhone On May 17, 2011, at 10:38 PM, omar parihuana omar.parihu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, Please could you suggest me a NMS for WAN/LAN? the WAN is a MPLS/VPN (300 remote offices) and the Switching is a campus LAN (aprox 1000 Network Devices) and three remote buildings (aprox Network 200 devices in each building). Before I tried Cisco Works but I faced some issues; HP Openview was difficult also. We need a easy web interface for monitoring and reporting (unfortunately no open source solutions are accepted). Thank you for your suggestions. Rgds. -- Omar E.P.T - Certified Networking Professionals make better Connections! ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
Re: [c-nsp] Open Source netflow recommendations
Stager is a great netflow analysis option; http://software.uninett.no/stager Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Justin M. Streiner Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 1:04 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Open Source netflow recommendations On Wed, 18 May 2011, Ge Moua wrote: If vendors start playing games with license fees per feature (to pad their revenues), then one either conform or work-around them. If this pertains to netflow, I've done something like the following in the past: * span traffic to pkt collector * on pkt collector, run something like fprobe to convert raw pkt to flow format * export flow to said flow collector This man-in-the-middle approach may be somewhat silly to bypass licensed netflow feature, and could be moot if one needed another license to do spans. If someone needed to do that, they certainly could. One thing that could become more difficult in that scenario is the ability to view and manipulate Netflow data based on AS number. To get that from a packet collector, the collector would need to be able to speak BGP with the appropriate devices on your network, and then insert the AS data into the exported Netflow packets. As others have mentioned you'd also lose ifIndex, which could make tracing a flow across the network more involved. jms ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/ ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/
