Re: What's the end goal for tools.deps?

2018-11-07 Thread Khalid Jebbari
people move to it, away from boot or lein, and I fail to see what the end > goal really is? > > Any serious work will need a build tool of some sort. If you use lein, it > comes with its own dependency management and config. Same for boot (as far > as I know). So in practice, if

Re: What's the end goal for tools.deps?

2018-11-04 Thread Erik Assum
t;> >> >> >> Sean Corfield -- (970) FOR-SEAN -- (904) 302-SEAN >> An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ >> >> "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." >> -- Margaret Atwood >> >> >> >&

Re: What's the end goal for tools.deps?

2018-11-04 Thread Alex Miller
I thought several did it, but maybe not that many. At least cambada does. On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:18:32 PM UTC-6, Alex Miller wrote: > > See https://github.com/clojure/tools.deps.alpha/wiki/Tools > > On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:03:51 PM UTC-6, Austin Haas wrote: >> >> "Several

Re: What's the end goal for tools.deps?

2018-11-04 Thread Alex Miller
See https://github.com/clojure/tools.deps.alpha/wiki/Tools On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:03:51 PM UTC-6, Austin Haas wrote: > > "Several tools already exist to AOT compile deps.edn projects." > > Alex, can you please identify some of those projects? I haven't been able > to find any. > >

Re: What's the end goal for tools.deps?

2018-11-04 Thread Austin Haas
"Several tools already exist to AOT compile deps.edn projects." Alex, can you please identify some of those projects? I haven't been able to find any. -austin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: What's the end goal for tools.deps?

2018-11-04 Thread Didier
really alive." > -- Margaret Atwood > > > -- > *From:* clo...@googlegroups.com > on behalf of Didier > > *Sent:* Sunday, November 4, 2018 10:58:43 AM > *To:* Clojure > *Subject:* RE: What's the end goal for tools.deps? > > T

RE: What's the end goal for tools.deps?

2018-11-04 Thread Sean Corfield
er 4, 2018 10:58:43 AM To: Clojure Subject: RE: What's the end goal for tools.deps? Thanks everyone. I guess I see the need for a dependency manager. And I love having a CLI to launch Clojure programs. And I understand it is fundamental. That said, it always felt like Lein had solved that proble

Re: What's the end goal for tools.deps?

2018-11-04 Thread Didier
> > Generally those tools are just Clojure programs with a clojure.main. If > you can build a classpath from your dependency manager, then invoke the > tool, then yes, all those tools are open to you as well (and for packaging > as lein plugins or boot tasks too). There is no magic here. It's

Re: What's the end goal for tools.deps?

2018-11-04 Thread Alex Miller
On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 12:58:43 PM UTC-6, Didier wrote: > > Thanks everyone. > > I guess I see the need for a dependency manager. And I love having a CLI > to launch Clojure programs. And I understand it is fundamental. That said, > it always felt like Lein had solved that problem long

Re: What's the end goal for tools.deps?

2018-11-04 Thread James Reeves
On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 at 18:58, Didier wrote: > I guess I see the need for a dependency manager. And I love having a CLI > to launch Clojure programs. And I understand it is fundamental. That said, > it always felt like Lein had solved that problem long ago. Maybe it wasn't > official enough. But

RE: What's the end goal for tools.deps?

2018-11-04 Thread Didier
Thanks everyone. I guess I see the need for a dependency manager. And I love having a CLI to launch Clojure programs. And I understand it is fundamental. That said, it always felt like Lein had solved that problem long ago. Maybe it wasn't official enough. But Lein could have been bundled with

RE: What's the end goal for tools.deps?

2018-11-04 Thread Sean Corfield
-SEAN An Architect's View -- http://corfield.org/ "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive." -- Margaret Atwood From: clojure@googlegroups.com on behalf of Didier Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2018 8:46:45 PM To: Clojure Subject: What's th

Re: What's the end goal for tools.deps?

2018-11-04 Thread Alex Miller
On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 6:50:19 AM UTC-6, Matching Socks wrote: > > > Reading between the lines, I see a sidelining of AOT compilation. > In general, I'd say distributing libraries as source has always been preferable and is pretty ubiquitous. I can't think of any library distributed

Re: What's the end goal for tools.deps?

2018-11-04 Thread Alex Miller
what the end > goal really is? > The end goal is to have a library and tool for building classpaths. These are foundational building blocks for other things. As far as I'm concerned, that goal has been achieved. I think there is another round of focus work required before we lock dow

Re: What's the end goal for tools.deps?

2018-11-04 Thread Matching Socks
The premise that "Any serious work will need a build tool of some sort" is being challenged. You will check your clj files into Git somewhere and tell people to run your program with "clj...". If you must build something, such as a web-archive for Servlets, then you will stick with tools that

What's the end goal for tools.deps?

2018-11-03 Thread Didier
I read the rationale, and I understand that we needed a way to bundle depencies for clj and clojure cli. But in practice, I'm seeing a lot of people move to it, away from boot or lein, and I fail to see what the end goal really is? Any serious work will need a build tool of some sort. If you

Re: The end goal

2010-03-24 Thread Michael Richter
On 23 March 2010 22:43, Joel Martin nos...@martintribe.org wrote: I'll know that this problem is solved when the Setup and Getting Started sections of the main Getting Started page resemble this: - For debian and Ubuntu users: apt-get install clojure For Fedora and CentOS users:

Re: The end goal

2010-03-24 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Michael Richter ttmrich...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know the process, but I'm willing to endure the tedium of packaging clojure for Ubuntu (and by extension Debian) if this is the kind of thing that can be a two-person job. clojure and clojure-contrib are

Re: The end goal

2010-03-24 Thread Michael Richter
On 25 March 2010 00:05, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan vu3...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Michael Richter ttmrich...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know the process, but I'm willing to endure the tedium of packaging clojure for Ubuntu (and by extension Debian) if this is the

Re: The end goal

2010-03-24 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Michael Richter ttmrich...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 March 2010 00:05, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan vu3...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Michael Richter ttmrich...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know the process, but I'm willing to endure the

Re: The end goal

2010-03-24 Thread Michael Richter
On 25 March 2010 09:20, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan vu3...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Michael Richter ttmrich...@gmail.com wrote: On 25 March 2010 00:05, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan vu3...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Michael Richter

Re: The end goal

2010-03-24 Thread Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Michael Richter ttmrich...@gmail.com wrote: Weird.  I'm showing 1.0 for those. mich...@isolde:~$ aptitude search clojure p   clojure                                                   - a Lisp dialect for the JVM mich...@isolde:~$ aptitude show clojure

The end goal

2010-03-23 Thread Joel Martin
I'll know that this problem is solved when the Setup and Getting Started sections of the main Getting Started page resemble this: - For debian and Ubuntu users: apt-get install clojure For Fedora and CentOS users: yum install clojure For other distributions: wget XXX.tgz tar