Re: Cloud Meeting Minutes 2016-09-21

[Dusty Mabe]

On 09/21/2016 03:38 PM, Vinny Valdez wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Sayan Chowdhury 
> mailto:sayan.chowdhury2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> * vagrant boxes fixups https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/136 
> 
>   (sayan, 17:06:51)
> 
> 
> 
> Looking at the ticket, would Dusty be the best person to talk to if I would 
> like to start working on creating a Fedora Server vagrant box?

I had a conversation with sgallagh today about what that means. I
think that in the long term the cloud base box that is delivered will
essentially be very similar to what is delivered as "Server". 

Considering that longer term goal, do you think a "Server" vagrant box
is needed? What would the "server" vagrant box give you that the
existing vagrant box doesn't already give?

Thanks for the interest and we definitely want you involved!

- Dusty
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Re: Fedora Atomic Host Two Week Release Announcement

[Adam Miller]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Adam Miller
 wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Chris Murphy  
> wrote:
>> This notification still seems broken. That page says:
>>
>> The latest two week build did not meet our testing criteria. The
>> images available are from over 22 days ago. Check the Project Atomic
>> blog for updates and information about Atomic blocker bugs. And the
>> image available for download is
>> https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/atomic/stable/Atomic/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Atomic-dvd-x86_64-24-20160820.0.iso
>>
>>
>
> Unfortunately there's a lag time between when the release happens and
> when the website is auto-updated with the latest release information
> from the fedmsg data. If it's not resolved within the next hour I'll
> ping someone from the websites team.
>
> In the future once we have our rel-eng automation tooling in place
> (currently in flight), the automated email will be disjoint from the
> release process and the email won't be sent until the website has
> finished updating.
>

There's an issue that's been found with the new N and N-1 change that
affected the data sent to the websites via fedmsg, I am working to
resolve it now.

Apologies,
-AdamM

> -AdamM
>
>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:45 AM,   wrote:
>>>
>>> A new update of Fedora Cloud Atomic Host has been released and can be
>>> downloaded at:
>>>
>>> Images can be found here:
>>>
>>> https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/download/atomic.html
>>>
>>> Respective signed CHECKSUM files can be found here:
>>> https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/atomic/stable/Fedora-Atomic-24-20160921.0/CloudImages/x86_64/images/Fedora-CloudImages-24-20160921.0-x86_64-CHECKSUM
>>> https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/atomic/stable/Fedora-Atomic-24-20160921.0/Atomic/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Atomic-24-20160921.0-x86_64-CHECKSUM
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Fedora Release Engineering
>>>
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Re: Cloud Atomic Server WGs

[Jason Brooks]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Chris Murphy  wrote:
> Couldn't make the Cloud meeting but just skimmed the log;
> cross-posting to server@ list.
>
> How about combine Cloud and Server WGs into a new WG with three new sub 
> groups:
> hardware, cloud, atomic?
>
> That way you get the benefit of one WG working on the big picture
> stuff that enables integration among the outputs. And you get
> collaboration that isn't possible by just cross posting emails on two
> lists. Curation of the outputs is enhanced so they're optimal when the
> products are used together, while not being exclusive to each other.
> The differences are minor tweaks in terms of payload, but e.g.
> cloud-init is not something most people in the Server WG probably know
> much about. So most of Cloud + Server overlaps with really vertical
> knowledge base needed to do the small tweaks that cause substantial
> product differentiation.
>
> On the issue of membership, anyone unavailable in the next 30 days
> should be dropped. There will be another time for their participation
> when they're available. I'd look into making it easy to rotate out WG
> members to avoid long periods of inactivity which inhibits others'
> ability to get stuff done, and avoid burn out when they've been on the
> WG too long.
>
> Maybe some WG seats should be ~18 months, and twice as many of those
> would be 1 release cycle. i.e. 1/3 of the seats are longer term, and
> 2/3 are short term. There's sufficient stability in FESCo to make
> frequent WG turnover a plus.

Not a bad idea. There's a ton of overlap, and it sounds like there are
a lot of atomic-type plans afoot in the server group, and atomic is
fundamentally about servers.

Jason

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Cloud Atomic Server WGs

[Chris Murphy]

Couldn't make the Cloud meeting but just skimmed the log;
cross-posting to server@ list.

How about combine Cloud and Server WGs into a new WG with three new sub groups:
hardware, cloud, atomic?

That way you get the benefit of one WG working on the big picture
stuff that enables integration among the outputs. And you get
collaboration that isn't possible by just cross posting emails on two
lists. Curation of the outputs is enhanced so they're optimal when the
products are used together, while not being exclusive to each other.
The differences are minor tweaks in terms of payload, but e.g.
cloud-init is not something most people in the Server WG probably know
much about. So most of Cloud + Server overlaps with really vertical
knowledge base needed to do the small tweaks that cause substantial
product differentiation.

On the issue of membership, anyone unavailable in the next 30 days
should be dropped. There will be another time for their participation
when they're available. I'd look into making it easy to rotate out WG
members to avoid long periods of inactivity which inhibits others'
ability to get stuff done, and avoid burn out when they've been on the
WG too long.

Maybe some WG seats should be ~18 months, and twice as many of those
would be 1 release cycle. i.e. 1/3 of the seats are longer term, and
2/3 are short term. There's sufficient stability in FESCo to make
frequent WG turnover a plus.


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Re: Cloud Meeting Minutes 2016-09-21

[Vinny Valdez]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 2:05 PM, Sayan Chowdhury <
sayan.chowdhury2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> * vagrant boxes fixups https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/136
>   (sayan, 17:06:51)
>


Looking at the ticket, would Dusty be the best person to talk to if I would
like to start working on creating a Fedora Server vagrant box?
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Re: [cloud] #168: Put OpenShift Origin in Container with Fedora Base

[Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets]

#168: Put OpenShift Origin in Container with Fedora Base
+--
 Reporter:  scollier|   Owner:
 Type:  task|  Status:  closed
 Priority:  normal  |   Milestone:  Future
Component:  OpenShift Origin Image  |  Resolution:  invalid
 Keywords:  meeting |
+--
Changes (by scollier):

 * status:  new => closed
 * resolution:   => invalid


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Re: [cloud] #168: Put OpenShift Origin in Container with Fedora Base

[Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets]

#168: Put OpenShift Origin in Container with Fedora Base
+-
 Reporter:  scollier|   Owner:
 Type:  task|  Status:  new
 Priority:  normal  |   Milestone:  Future
Component:  OpenShift Origin Image  |  Resolution:
 Keywords:  meeting |
+-

Comment (by scollier):

 CLosing this in favor of the work Adam is doing on the FAO project.

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Cloud Meeting Minutes 2016-09-21

[Sayan Chowdhury]

==
#fedora-meeting-1: fedora_cloud_wg
==


Meeting started by sayan at 17:00:36 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2016-09-21/fedora_cloud_wg.2016-09-21-17.00.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---
* Roll Call  (sayan, 17:00:48)

* Action items from last meeting  (sayan, 17:04:12)
  * ACTION: Kushal will work on moving to Pagure from Trac  (sayan,
17:06:19)

* vagrant boxes fixups https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/136
  (sayan, 17:06:51)

* design, deploy and document Fedora OpenShift Playground (FOSP)
  https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/153  (sayan, 17:08:24)

* make Fedora Atomic download page clearer
  https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/154  (sayan, 17:11:28)

* Decide on post-GA update cadence for various deliverables
  https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/155  (sayan, 17:55:09)

* Need complete Kickstart docs for Atomic Host
  https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/156  (sayan, 17:56:20)

* Put OpenShift Origin in Container with Fedora Base
  https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/168  (sayan, 17:58:18)

* Open Floor  (sayan, 18:00:00)
  * ACTION: jbrooks to send out an email to the list regarding Test Day
(sayan, 18:01:56)

Meeting ended at 18:03:17 UTC.




Action Items

* Kushal will work on moving to Pagure from Trac
* jbrooks to send out an email to the list regarding Test Day




Action Items, by person
---
* jbrooks
  * jbrooks to send out an email to the list regarding Test Day
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * Kushal will work on moving to Pagure from Trac




People Present (lines said)
---
* sayan (68)
* dustymabe (63)
* jbrooks (51)
* maxamillion (30)
* zodbot (24)
* jberkus (23)
* smooge (11)
* kushal (10)
* scollier (9)
* bowlofeggs (5)
* trishnag (3)
* tflink (2)
* subho (1)
* nzwulfin (1)
* rtnpro (1)




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Re: Fedora Atomic Host Two Week Release Announcement

[Adam Miller]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Chris Murphy  wrote:
> This notification still seems broken. That page says:
>
> The latest two week build did not meet our testing criteria. The
> images available are from over 22 days ago. Check the Project Atomic
> blog for updates and information about Atomic blocker bugs. And the
> image available for download is
> https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/atomic/stable/Atomic/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Atomic-dvd-x86_64-24-20160820.0.iso
>
>

Unfortunately there's a lag time between when the release happens and
when the website is auto-updated with the latest release information
from the fedmsg data. If it's not resolved within the next hour I'll
ping someone from the websites team.

In the future once we have our rel-eng automation tooling in place
(currently in flight), the automated email will be disjoint from the
release process and the email won't be sent until the website has
finished updating.

-AdamM

> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:45 AM,   wrote:
>>
>> A new update of Fedora Cloud Atomic Host has been released and can be
>> downloaded at:
>>
>> Images can be found here:
>>
>> https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/download/atomic.html
>>
>> Respective signed CHECKSUM files can be found here:
>> https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/atomic/stable/Fedora-Atomic-24-20160921.0/CloudImages/x86_64/images/Fedora-CloudImages-24-20160921.0-x86_64-CHECKSUM
>> https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/atomic/stable/Fedora-Atomic-24-20160921.0/Atomic/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Atomic-24-20160921.0-x86_64-CHECKSUM
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Fedora Release Engineering
>>
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Re: Fedora Atomic Host Two Week Release Announcement

[Chris Murphy]

This notification still seems broken. That page says:

The latest two week build did not meet our testing criteria. The
images available are from over 22 days ago. Check the Project Atomic
blog for updates and information about Atomic blocker bugs. And the
image available for download is
https://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/atomic/stable/Atomic/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Atomic-dvd-x86_64-24-20160820.0.iso


On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:45 AM,   wrote:
>
> A new update of Fedora Cloud Atomic Host has been released and can be
> downloaded at:
>
> Images can be found here:
>
> https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/download/atomic.html
>
> Respective signed CHECKSUM files can be found here:
> https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/atomic/stable/Fedora-Atomic-24-20160921.0/CloudImages/x86_64/images/Fedora-CloudImages-24-20160921.0-x86_64-CHECKSUM
> https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/atomic/stable/Fedora-Atomic-24-20160921.0/Atomic/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Atomic-24-20160921.0-x86_64-CHECKSUM
>
> Thank you,
> Fedora Release Engineering
>
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Re: [cloud] #153: design, deploy and document Fedora OpenShift Playground (FOSP)

[Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets]

#153: design, deploy and document Fedora OpenShift Playground (FOSP)
-+---
 Reporter:  goern|   Owner:  jberkus
 Type:  task |  Status:  assigned
 Priority:  normal   |   Milestone:  Future
Component:  ---  |  Resolution:
 Keywords:  meeting  |
-+---

Comment (by scollier):

 moved works session to Oct 3rd.

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Fedora Atomic Host Two Week Release Announcement

[noreply]

A new update of Fedora Cloud Atomic Host has been released and can be
downloaded at:

Images can be found here:

https://getfedora.org/en/cloud/download/atomic.html

Respective signed CHECKSUM files can be found here:
https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/atomic/stable/Fedora-Atomic-24-20160921.0/CloudImages/x86_64/images/Fedora-CloudImages-24-20160921.0-x86_64-CHECKSUM
https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/atomic/stable/Fedora-Atomic-24-20160921.0/Atomic/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Atomic-24-20160921.0-x86_64-CHECKSUM

Thank you,
Fedora Release Engineering
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Re: [cloud] #171: [VOTE] To mark recent failure on Atomic images as non blocking

[Fedora Cloud Trac Tickets]

#171: [VOTE] To mark recent failure on Atomic images as non blocking
+-
 Reporter:  kushal  |   Owner:
 Type:  task|  Status:  closed
 Priority:  normal  |   Milestone:  Future
Component:  --- |  Resolution:  fixed
 Keywords:  |
+-

Comment (by kushal):

 Worked as a non gating test.

 https://apps.fedoraproject.org/autocloud/jobs/634/output#235

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