Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 144, Issue 56

2018-01-15 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
Me too! Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera 1990 C 37+/40 Vashon WA P 206.463.9200 C 305.409.3660 > On Jan 15, 2018, at 6:54 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 02:44:33 + > From: Josh Muckley > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re:

Re: Stus-List Stopping leaks through pedestal guard feet?

2018-01-15 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Joel, Why not butyl tape? (I am not questioning; just asking). In fact, I put some butyl tape there. I wrapped it around the cables in a cone shape, completely dealing the hole. Then I put the pedestal guard over it. It is not leaking for 3 years. Marek Sent from

Re: Stus-List Stopping leaks through pedestal guard feet?

2018-01-15 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Agree. Touche' has different but functionally equivalent pedestal guard. I just lifted up the guard, sealed the hole in the deck with clear LifeSeal and replaced the guard. Creates a bit of an issue if you need to pull new or remove old cables but not a dealbreaker. Just have to lift the

Re: Stus-List Max-Prop service

2018-01-15 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Hey guys I fixed the subject line I too have a Max-Prop and am fond of it though I have little experience with alternatives. I service mine every year by replacing the zinc and greasing it per the manufacturer's instructions. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On Mon, Jan 15,

Re: Stus-List Stopping leaks through pedestal guard feet?

2018-01-15 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
I would use something like lifeseal rather than butyl. Joel On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 9:30 PM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi Josh, > > Here's a link to the exterior view of the pedestal guard feet. >

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 144, Issue 46

2018-01-15 Thread detroito91 via CnC-List
Curious...how often do you service your maxprop?Jim schwartz 38lfSEA YA!washington nc  Original message From: Chuck S via CnC-List Date: 1/15/18 9:23 PM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chuck S , Ted Drossos

Re: Stus-List Stopping leaks through pedestal guard feet?

2018-01-15 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Hi Josh, Here's a link to the exterior view of the pedestal guard feet.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/pxc37iifz7eo596/Pedestal%20Guard%20Feet.jpg?dl=0 You can see the tape which is currently keeping out most of the water.  I suspect the remaining water is getting in between the foot and the teak

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 144, Issue 46

2018-01-15 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
I noticed 15 years ago that every sailboat in every boatyard that races has a folding or feathering prop. Half of the cruisers have em too. I enjoy my two blade MaxProp. I followed the dealer's advice and set it up myself to his specs. The second year I made an adjustment to get a higher

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 144, Issue 46

2018-01-15 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Hi Ted, While it is true the original poster did not like their J Prop at all, they did not state why except to say they lost 2 knots over the fixed prop they had replaced. That indicates to me they did not know how to properly adjust the pitch of their prop, which is odd, as it is so simple to

Re: Stus-List FASTRACK: AN EPIC VOYAGE

2018-01-15 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Hi Bill, Years ago I read in a Sailing Anarchy thread there was a C named Fastrack at the RCYC (i.e. Royal Canadian Yacht Club in Toronto, Ontario). I always assumed that was just a typo as the C 37R Fastrack I was aware of was based out of the RVYC (Royal Vancouver Yacht Club). There are (or

Re: Stus-List Stopping leaks through pedestal guard feet?

2018-01-15 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Bruce, Are you saying that the wires come through the pedestal guard tube? And exit through the deck via the gaurd tube foot? A picture might help. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On Mon, Jan 15, 2018, 5:02 PM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >

Stus-List Stopping leaks through pedestal guard feet?

2018-01-15 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Hello all, We have a 1994 C 37/40+, and we are replacing the stern and v berth mattress foam and fabric.  I have noticed a very small leak which is coming from the starboard pedestal guard foot, where the bolts and wires penetrate the cockpit floor.  We have stopped the vast majority of the

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque

2018-01-15 Thread schiller via CnC-List
Josh, Depends on the material used (i.e., Snap-on vs. Harbor Freight). Assuming the extension is made from a quality alloy steel such as 4130, the shear stress at 350 ft-lb would be about 32 ksi (help stamp out metric in my lifetime).  This assumes the extension diameter is 7/8 so that they

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque

2018-01-15 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
"Anybody wanna venture what the typical torque limits are on a 3/4 drive extension?" I don't know that for sure but the micrometer adjustable torque wrench I borrow from the Heavy Equipment Mechanics is 3/4" drive and it goes a lot higher than 600lbs. torque. Ken H. On Monday, 15 January 2018,

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque

2018-01-15 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I thought about that too Bill, but a 3/4 output drive is going to be limited to the given socket and quality there of. That's why I assume the input is always smaller than the output (1/2 to 3/4) or (3/4 to 1). Anybody wanna venture what the typical torque limits are on a 3/4 drive extension?

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque

2018-01-15 Thread William Walker via CnC-List
Could it be that manufacturer of multiplier fears that the extension will not be of sufficient quality/strength to transfer the torque developed by multiplier? Bill Walker Sent from AOL Mobile Mail___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque

2018-01-15 Thread schiller via CnC-List
Josh, I agree with your assessment of why they recommend against extensions.  I used to use a 4:1 multiplier to torque fuse bolts on bomb bodies (650 foot-lb).  It is a true challenge to support the multiplier without an extension.  With an extension, I strongly agree with using a support. 

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque

2018-01-15 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Thanks Rick, Sounds like a similar concern to having the extension shaft come out of alignment. Still a tough choice between the lesser of two evils. No reaction bar, down in the hole to avoid drive extensions. Or use extensions to get the assembly out of the hole and allow using a reaction

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque

2018-01-15 Thread Rick Taillieu via CnC-List
This is the best explanation I could find. Do not use output drive extensions. Increased deflections, caused by the added length could force the socket off the nut, or break the extension or socket. Some other sites state to use a single or double sided reaction bar if you have to use

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque

2018-01-15 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Josh, A quick Google search for "using extension with torque multiplier" shows the most common use of "extension" as an extension of the handle of a torque wrench, not an extension between the multiplier and socket. Most of the hits were how to calculate the added torque from extending the

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque

2018-01-15 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Yeah Johh, my thinking is that that is the biggest concern anytime an extension or adapter is being used. The further off axis the head of the wrench the more inaccurate the torque being applied. A more purposeful statement to that effect in the multiplier instructions would have been nice.

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque

2018-01-15 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
On the 27- mik III I just make sure the extension stays vertical. Not dealing with that much torque. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2018, at 10:44 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List > wrote: Hopefully, I'm visualizing the situation correctly. The

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque

2018-01-15 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Dennis, I'm totally in agreement with your thinking and think you are envisioning it correctly but I just wanted to check with the collective wisdom. I wish the multiplier had expounded on their "do not use extensions" warning. Josh On Jan 15, 2018 9:44 AM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List"

Re: Stus-List Keel bolt torque

2018-01-15 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Hopefully, I'm visualizing the situation correctly. The configuration I see is the socket on the nut, an extension of X inches held by a bushing several inches above the socket, then the multiplier on top of the extension. I just don't see a difference for the multiplier if the extension is held