Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] 37/40+ holding tank

2018-12-06 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Goslings are the same way. Helped a friend use a sawzall to cut up his tank, and then we replaced the original with 2 or 3 smaller tanks interconnected by pumps. Rick Brass Sent from my iPad > On Dec 6, 2018, at 05:01, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List > wrote: > > Metal holding tanks WILL leak

Stus-List Rudder bearing questions...

2018-12-06 Thread Steve Martin via CnC-List
C&C 44 with spade rudder and harken top bearing...How much play is too much and does anyone know sizes and how to remove upper and lower bearings... and any other info on what I might be in for tackling this job...Thanks Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android___

Re: Stus-List repairing oil leaks

2018-12-06 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I used Permatex RTV Red High Temp gasket maker on Touche's old AT4. It's a close cousin to the Permatex Ultimate Copper gasket maker. After I purchased the boat it took some effort to get the AT4 running. When it finally started, I noticed water running everywhere in the engine compartment. I wa

Stus-List repairing oil leaks

2018-12-06 Thread robert via CnC-List
Bill: That's exactly the product I used.I made one application where the gasket was splitI could see the split in the gasket and with the engine running, you could see the tiny oil leak, not a lot but a nuisance.doesn't leak with the engine not running because there is no oil pres

Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
I’m pretty sure the hull IS cored; and that same yard redid about 1/3 of a cored C&C 34 hull a few years back, so they definitely have the skills. Not sure I’d want to see that bill, though… — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :

Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Chris Graham via CnC-List
Oh that’s Shitty! Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, December 6, 2018, 5:43 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote: Several years back, he asked me to redesign the battery switching and charging system for him; I did so, and after he saw the drawing and got my invoice, he

Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Several years back, he asked me to redesign the battery switching and charging system for him; I did so, and after he saw the drawing and got my invoice, he said he wasn’t going to pay me because it looked something like the Blue Sea circuit diagram online. Then he went ahead and installed my d

Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F repairing oil leaks

2018-12-06 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
After an endorsement, like that, I just had to have some! Amazon makes things too easy – 7 bucks, click and done! https://www.amazon.com/Permatex-81878-Maximum-Temperature-Silicone/dp/B0002UEOPA Bill Coleman C&C 39 Erie, PAanimated_favicon1 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@c

Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
I guess I misunderstood what was meant with the inclusion of the Kevlar in the hull. Thanks for straightening me out. Tom Buscaglia S/V Alera 1990 C&C 37+/40 Vashon WA P 206.463.9200 C 305.409.3660 > On Dec 6, 2018, at 11:38 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018

Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F repairing oil leaks

2018-12-06 Thread robert via CnC-List
I have a Yanmar 2GMF...5 years ago, I notice some oil under the sole at the front of the enginepretty easy to determine where it was coming from...you could see the leak on the lower front of engineonly leaked a few drops when the engine was runningno leak with the engine stopped. 

Re: Stus-List Re Cleaning the engine.

2018-12-06 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Cleaner comparison http://www.wastemin.com/discuss/index.php?threads/industrial-degreaser-performance-ratings-how-the-top-15-degreasers-stack-up.6/#.XAmTQnRKg2w Dennis C. ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and

Stus-List Re Cleaning the engine.

2018-12-06 Thread Tortuga via CnC-List
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Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
I had also heard that Kevlar was a bear to work with, because it fuzzes, and found out the hard way for myself this summer. I used a blend of Kevlar/Carbon, and it was a joy to work with - until I started sanding. That Sh#t will NOT sand! The best you can do is either finish up with glass or c

Re: Stus-List Cleaning the engine.

2018-12-06 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
It should be available at Complete Supply in Vancouver. I suppose Amazon would get too complicated, didn’t realise you were in Canada. Bill Coleman C&C 39 Erie, PAanimated_favicon1 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bev Parslow via CnC-List Sent: Thursda

Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
Every single boat larger than 35 feet at C&C was balsa cored . . . Rob Ball, C&C 34 ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to s

Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F repairing oil leaks

2018-12-06 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
This list is a fabulous resource for problems of that sort. Thank you Stu! From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2018 3:45 PM To: C&C List Cc: Josh Muckley Subject: Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F repairing oil leaks

Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F repairing oil leaks

2018-12-06 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Mike, I remember helping you with your engine. I was hoping you would chime in. Thanks. Josh On Thu, Dec 6, 2018, 2:38 PM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Hi Josh > > > > Those pictures look way to familiar! > > > > In Spring 2016 our 3GM30F failed to start caused by a bend and jamming of > the Governo

Re: Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F repairing oil leaks

2018-12-06 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Hi Josh Those pictures look way to familiar! In Spring 2016 our 3GM30F failed to start caused by a bend and jamming of the Governor Flyweight Assembly. This is the device that is moves the governor as the engine races or stops racing due to prop coming closer to surface or digging back in. I

Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
My copy of the original brochure. "Kevlar and Balsa coring". http://www.cbcsailing.com/the-boat.html#PhotoSwipe1544124076780 As I understand it, the Kevlar is the real PITA. The way it looks in the survey pictures is not what I would expect from a delamination. It looks like water got behind t

Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I thought the Hull was cored with balsa though? Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Thu, Dec 6, 2018, 2:12 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I had a long chat with John Hoenig, at the yard that is listing her. > According to him, the repairs done

Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
Actually, the hulls of all the 37/40 produced did have balsa cores. Some areas of the hull have no core but most of the hull does. On the other hand, C&C was quite good at coring hulls so, unless there was some serious accident (like there was with this boat) the cores are not usually a problem,

Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
I had a long chat with John Hoenig, at the yard that is listing her. According to him, the repairs done after the initial damage were not enough and over time it just got worse. That said, he was confident that he could hand the repairs. He also told me that the hull was balsa cored...so my

Stus-List Cleaning the engine.

2018-12-06 Thread Bev Parslow via CnC-List
Tried to get Oil eater in Vancouver but cannot get it here. Are there other safe alternatives?___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPa

Stus-List Yanmar 3HM35F repairing oil leaks

2018-12-06 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I've been living with oil leaks from around the HP fuel pump and the timing cover for as long as I've owned the boat (~6.5 years). I finally had a window of time to make fixing the problem a priority. Everything went smoothly and the engine is back together and works. I came away with some obser

Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Pete Shelquist via CnC-List
I can validate Fred’s comment.  Totally.  Get Outlook for iOS On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 11:35 AM -0600, "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List" wrote: Don’t sugar-coat it, Fred.  Tell us what you really think.   From: Frederick G

Re: Stus-List Any Tampa Bay Listers

2018-12-06 Thread Dreuge via CnC-List
Edd, Here are a couple sources of information: Southwinds Magazine a free source covering sailing & cruising for Fl and the SE. https://southwindsmagazine.com FCYC: Florida Council of Yacht Clubs http://www.floridacouncilofyachtclubs.com

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] 37/40+ holding tank

2018-12-06 Thread Dave. via CnC-List
I agree with Joe. We will be installing a composting Head this spring. All reports I get are positive. Dave. 1975 C&C 33 SLY Sent from my iPad > On Dec 6, 2018, at 7:01 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List > wrote: > > Metal holding tanks WILL leak. No idea why anyone ever used them. > I would s

Re: Stus-List 37/40+ holding tank

2018-12-06 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
I removed the aluminum lid portion of the built-in nasty, old holding “tank” on my 42. I had to widen the fiberglass top that held the lid to install a plastic tank in the same space. Instead of using a sawzall, I got a controlled, clean cut through the fiberglass with an oscillating saw. Fr

Re: Stus-List 37/40+ holding tank

2018-12-06 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Hi Daryl, The only way that tank is coming out is with a Sawzall. I removed mine by cutting it up in small pieces. I then found a tank (online) that I stuffed in from under the sink. In order to get a similar capacity (14 gallons), it had to stick out into the cabinet area under the sink, r

Stus-List C&C 37+ holding tank

2018-12-06 Thread Len Mitchell via CnC-List
Daryl, Yes it is absolutely possible. HMP had a couple plastic tanks in stock when I did mine maybe 5 years ago. I won't bore everyone with the details here but the hardest part was cutting the 3 inch tabbing an arms length up. It's built like a bomb shelter. If you don't use chlorine products

Re: Stus-List 37/40+ holding tank

2018-12-06 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
I did exactly that on a Krogen with a stainless holding tank. We found out two things: 1. The sewage REALLY stinks because absent vents and air circulation, the anaerobic bacteria do all the digesting. 2. #1 was discovered when someone had the floor hatch out and stepped on the bladder, caus

Stus-List Any Tampa Bay Listers

2018-12-06 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Listers, Anyone on the list located in the Tampa Bay area? I’d like to get an idea about the sailing, racing and cruising activity down there. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island Yacht Club | City Island, NY Star

Re: Stus-List 37/40+ holding tank

2018-12-06 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Maybe I'm not visualizing it correctly but if you can get the top of the tank exposed, why not just cut the top out, clean up all sharp edges and drop a flexible bladder into the tank? Dennis C. On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 9:35 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Len Mitche

Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I've said this before but worth repeating. After I retired from my "real" job, I started a marine repair business. Did all sorts of marine repair from electrical to fiberglass and gelcoat. My good buddy nearby also worked on boats. After Hurricane Katrina there were LOTS of storm damaged boats

Re: Stus-List 37/40+ holding tank

2018-12-06 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Len Mitchell replaced the tank on his boat. He'll probably answer up but if he doesn't his email is here. len.mitch...@bell.blackberry.net As I recall he got everything apart but the final movement of the tank was precluded by the cabinets. He had to make vertical cuts between the cabinets. Jos

Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
$ 50K doesn’t sound like a serious thought-out number . . . Living where I do, near boat builders, fixing fiberglass is normal everyday stuff . . . . I can see a DIY type buying the boat and working at it slowly . . . the end result being a terrific boat . . . . Rob Ball, C&C 34 ___

Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Don’t sugar-coat it, Fred. Tell us what you really think. From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2018 8:54 AM To: David via CnC-List Cc: Frederick G Street Subject: Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!] That’s Beau Geste, a hurricane “rescue” boat. She wa

Re: Stus-List 37/40+ holding tank

2018-12-06 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Daryl, It can come out — It’s not easy by any means, and I haven’t done it, but there is a way. The sink itself and the grey trim that runs along the shower and around the head is one piece, held in by screws. If you remove the screws, it will all come out (be careful), giving you full access

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] 37/40+ holding tank

2018-12-06 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Metal holding tanks WILL leak. No idea why anyone ever used them. I would seriously consider getting a composting head. It would be a lot less money and disruption. Speaking of disruption, I am not sure of your access, but Grand Banks fuel tanks are installed early in the build and do not fit out

Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
That assumes that it’s fixable for $50K. From: Richard Bush via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2018 8:23 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Richard Bush Subject: Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!] If it needs approx. $50k in repairs, wouldn't that make the sale price seems a

Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
David is saying the truth…. There was a Swan which was crunched on some rocks on a jetty down south a number of years ago. The owner got the check after he knew how much repairs were going to be. The yard stripped the boat (it had a big hole in the side and had nearly sunk) of everything! Engine

Stus-List 37/40+ holding tank

2018-12-06 Thread Daryl McKelvie via CnC-List
Hi guys, I'm trying to work towards getting the boat ready for a trip south starting summer 2020 and one of the big things on my mind is the original aluminum holding tank, which I'm told will eventually start leaking and get a new plastic one in there, problem is getting it out, short story: frien

Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
IMHO the boat is not worth much over scrap. If you have $50K cash sitting around to pay the yard, you can afford a non-wrecked boat in the first place. Joe Coquina ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every o

Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread jim aridas via CnC-List
Sounds like an insurance total and check was issued to then owner kept the boat minus salvage value. Get Outlook for Android From: CnC-List on behalf of Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 8:54:07 AM To: Davi

Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread David via CnC-List
Richard...you are numerically right. But I would not rebuild a waterlogged boat. Those water issues, like in a semi-flooded and thereafter "fixed" car, seem to forever migrate and show up years later. As has happened, most likely, in the instant case. Apparently it could not have happened t

Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
That’s Beau Geste, a hurricane “rescue” boat. She was sunk, then quickly reflected and cleaned out. The owner is a real d!@k… he was on my dock for several years in Bayfield, WI. If it goes below $30k, I’ll take a look… 🙂 — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38)

Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Tom posted a link to the survey yesterday afternoon. It stated delamination stbd aft side of hull and significant wet core aft stbd and midships stbd as well as large sections of high moisture content on the deck. This was from hurricane damage in early 1990s. The nasty side of this is that t

Re: Stus-List Instruments

2018-12-06 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
John — sorry for the delay, I’ve been out of ‘Net range (yes, there are still places on earth like that…) Yes, I can price these for you; please contact me off-list. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Dec 1, 2018, at 5

Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
If it needs approx. $50k in repairs, wouldn't that make the sale price seems about right?the new owner would have about $85-90K in the boat? Richard s/v Bushmakr4: 1984 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596; 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 --

Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
Ah ha ! bummer But I would interested in some parts John Conklin S/V Halcyon On Dec 5, 2018, at 4:06 PM, Stephen Thorne via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Thats a very expensive repair dont properly. Too bad On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 3:54 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List mailto:cn

Re: Stus-List 1990 37+/40 For Sale [Not Mine!]

2018-12-06 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
Yes, I’ll say, way too low! Curious what The survey findings were that caused this “drastic reduction” ? I’ll Trade em straight up for my 37 :) John Conklin S/V Halcyon On Dec 5, 2018, at 3:08 PM, Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I ran across this listing. WIll