Re: Stus-List Another Fuel Mystery

It definitely cut out immediately. Now that I think about it, an ignition problem explains the observations better than a fuel problem. Good to know about the coil. If ever I take this boat somewhere I’ll need to motor more, or if ever I have to overhaul this 47-year-old mechanical ignition

Re: Stus-List Old IOR auction

Yes, it was nice to see Magnum out, we had some good racing against her at Thermopylae. From: CnC-List on behalf of Shawn Wright via CnC-List Sent: October 30, 2019 7:46 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Shawn Wright Subject: Re: Stus-List Old IOR auction

Re: Stus-List Old IOR auction

That is sad to see! I will have to go take a look. I raced with Magnum a few weeks back, another C half ton - very beautiful boat under sail with a unique cockpit layout. -- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com S/V Callisto, 1974 C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at

Re: Stus-List Another Fuel Mystery

Check your fuel feed line, I have had the inner liner collapse and starve the engine of fuel then once the engine shuts down and the suction released start and run fine for a bit. This was on a Atomic 4 boat. Had a similar thing on our dinghy last season. Paul

Re: Stus-List Another Fuel Mystery

Kinda like what I did with my 71 MGB. Starts easily first thing in the spring and all summer long. Darn thing is reliable as heck now. Go figure Sent from my Android. Please forgive typos. Thank you. From: CnC-List on behalf of bwhitmore via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Advice on replacing 33-2 BandG 32mm transducer with Airmar 52mm transducer

I had to replace a malfunctioning depth transducer back in the spring.  I started by trying to remove the old transducer but it was more than a little resistant with copious 5200 type sealant around it and 35yrs to harden.  I needed to drill out a larger thru-hull for the new transducer and

Re: Stus-List Another Fuel Mystery

Agreed as to probable coil, especially if it cut out immediately with no sputter whatsoever.  Fuel issues on A-4s will almost always cause a slower die with a cough or two.  For me, the coil never failed once I replaced the points and condenser with electronic ignition.  The electronic ignition

Re: Stus-List Advice on replacing 33-2 BandG 32mm transducer with Airmar 52mm transducer

Good call Neil. I forgot that that was even possible. Josh On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 8:45 PM Neil Andersen via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > With many hole saws you can stack blades/bits. The outer is the size you > need, the inner the size of the old hole. > > Neil > 1982 C 32 > >

Re: Stus-List Old IOR auction

C 29 Half Tonner? On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 8:24 PM Paul Baker via CnC-List, < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Not mine, but always sad to see an old tonne-something racer end up > abandoned. Doesn't look in bad condition on the whole. > >

Re: Stus-List Advice on replacing 33-2 BandG 32mm transducer with Airmar 52mm transducer

With many hole saws you can stack blades/bits. The outer is the size you need, the inner the size of the old hole. Neil 1982 C 32 Neil Andersen 20691 Jamieson Rd Rock Hall, MD 21661 From: CnC-List on behalf of Bradley Lumgair via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday,

Re: Stus-List Fuel Mystery

Hi Tom, Is it possible that the tank has a few gallons of microbial growth (bacterial and fungus) that gas created clumps/sludge on the bottom of the tank taking up good fuel space? Be careful using a bio ide, as a friend told me he did this and a few weeks later while returning through Active

Stus-List Old IOR auction

Not mine, but always sad to see an old tonne-something racer end up abandoned. Doesn't look in bad condition on the whole. https://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/NOTICE-OF-VESSEL-AUCTION_34833004.lite? ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list

Re: Stus-List Another Fuel Mystery

Ah, thanks Dennis! Cheers, Randy > On Oct 30, 2019, at 5:15 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List > wrote: > > Internal short in the ignition coil. Not uncommon issue with A4's when you > run them a while. Coil gets extremely hot and shorts out. Cools a bit and > it restarts. > > If you ever run

Re: Stus-List Another Fuel Mystery

Internal short in the ignition coil. Not uncommon issue with A4's when you run them a while. Coil gets extremely hot and shorts out. Cools a bit and it restarts. If you ever run it long again (can't imagine that happening in Chatfield) CAREFULLY put your hand on the coil. If it's too hot to

Re: Stus-List Fuel Mystery

The inner and outer liners of fill hose on Touche' when I bought it were separated. The outer liner was bulged out. Could be just as true that your inner liner is bulged inward. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 5:05 PM Alan Liles via CnC-List <

Stus-List Fuel Mystery

Al I had the same thing happen earlier i the year. It turned out the the fuel dock had recently installed new high volume pumps, I assume to speed up filling larges motor yachts, and that, not the fill tube was the issue. You may want to check that before you start tearing out things.

Stus-List Advice on replacing 33-2 BandG 32mm transducer with Airmar 52mm transducer

Doug I replaced the original with a a Raymarine (airmar) about 5 yrs ago. Just centered the holesaw in the tapered hole and let loose, no problem. The hull was NOT cored just forward of the keel on our full keeled 33-2 . About 3/4 inch of solid fibreglass. Installed with a lick of black

Re: Stus-List Fuel Mystery

This year my tank started to fill rather slowly. Trying to fill faster resulted in fuel backing up in the hose. I haven’t gotten to it yet but I’ll replace the fill and vent hoses to see if that cures it. Al Liles SV Elendil C 37/40 Vancouver BC > On Oct 30, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Ken Heaton via

Stus-List Another Fuel Mystery

Inspired by Tom’s post. I have an A4. On Friday afternoon I filled the fuel tank. I motor so little on my lake - generally just in and out of the marina - that I can go a whole season one one tank. Case in point, she took 12 gallons Friday in a 20-gallon tank, and was in the water five

Re: Stus-List Fuel Mystery

My pick-up tube had a screen near its end near the tank bottom.  This screen got plugged up with ‘stuff’ after a few years of boat ownership and it cost me a weekend in a yard and a few boat bucks before the yard realized it was there. Of course before they knew of its existence they had swapped

Re: Stus-List Fuel Mystery

The bottom of our tank is not flat, it slopes downhill a bit toward the pickup tube at the front so boat trim would have to change a lot to affect this (on our 37/40). I can confirm I have put up to 44 US Gallons in our tank when it was completely empty. On your tank, does your pickup tube end

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Starting An Engine with Battery Charger Connected?

Have to admit that I did it once with our Redwing 35 (C 35-1) in South Haven, Michigan.  Something interrupted our normal departure routine.  Pulled the wires out of the boat end.  Came back to the dock and the cable was in the water and still live!  Can't believe it didn't fault the breaker.

Re: Stus-List Starting An Engine with Battery Charger Connected?

I have a modern charger. ProMariner P-Nautic 1260. Granted my batteries are big and not failing. For unknown reasons I have blown a Xantrex True Charge 40 amp(modern). Refunded under warranty. Could have been bad luck but I'm leaning towards the idea that it is bad engineering. Under the

Re: Stus-List Fuel Mystery

The pickup tube is near the forward part of the tank. Have you done anything to change the pitch of the boat? If you removed bow weight or added stern weight or both, this could change the pitch such that fuel collects further from the pickup tube. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons,

Re: Stus-List Fuel Mystery

Tom, When I put fuel into the Enterprise (insert dilithium crystal / antimatter joke here), I often have to go very slow as the fill will back up if I go quickly, giving me a false impression that the tank was full. Could that be it? Also, is there any chance that the boat has a bit of a heel

Re: Stus-List Starting An Engine with Battery Charger Connected?

It is certainly OK if the charger you are using has a “boost” feature. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: CnC-List on behalf of Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 2:53:26 PM To:

Re: Stus-List Starting An Engine with Battery Charger Connected?

I don’t know if it’s good or bad. I do know that a couple Guest chargers on my 34 failed before I began unplugging before starting, and did not fail after I began unplugging before starting. As a result, unplugging first became my practice (provided I remember). Nothing bad has happened on

Stus-List Fuel Mystery

I have a puzzle. I was on my way to fill up last trip out for a nice weekend rendezvous with out club when I ran out of fuel. Fortunately, I was close enough to our club in the inner harbor. I dropped the dinghy and ran to shore to get a gerry can of diesel. When I finally got to the gas

Re: Stus-List Starting An Engine with Battery Charger Connected?

Think of it as a yellow spring line. From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:44 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Coleman Subject: Re: Stus-List Starting An Engine with Battery Charger Connected? But I have done this too!! Bill Coleman Erie PA From:

Re: Stus-List Starting An Engine with Battery Charger Connected?

Ok, so I have read the other responses and what your experience means to me is that you have been doing this with reasonably good batteries and or older battery chargers. I too have never had a problem with the charger in a boat but I have personally killed 4 or 5 of the modern chargers with

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: Starting An Engine with Battery Charger Connected?

My father did that once! Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:28 AM To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' Cc: Hoyt, Mike Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Starting An Engine with

Re: Stus-List Fwd: Garmin GM10 instrument issue

Thanks Joe--I think the Garmin bus also carries the power to the instruments since as I recall there is no separate power cable to them.  I will have a look--I think they (GM10 series?) get their power from the same source that powers my Garmin GPS (541?) and it did not have issues AFAIK--it

Stus-List Ultrasonic, Electromagnetic, ForwardScan

Somewhat to Josh’s point, I mentioned in the spring I would report back on my experience on the DX900+ and ForwardScan. While I cannot comment on the ultrasonic as far as speed goes, the Airmar techs kind of were suggesting that (UDST800) over the DX900, which gave me pause, (like maybe they

Re: Stus-List Starting An Engine with Battery Charger Connected?

I run the shore power cord right next to one of my mooring lines. That, combined with the bright yellow cord colour helps remind us to disconnect it. Ken H. On Wednesday, 30 October 2019, Bill Coleman via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > But I have done this too!! > > > > Bill Coleman

Re: Stus-List Starting An Engine with Battery Charger Connected?

But I have done this too!! Bill Coleman Erie PA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:28 AM To: 'cnc-list@cnc-list.com' Cc: Hoyt, Mike Subject: Re: Stus-List Starting An Engine with Battery Charger

Re: Stus-List Starting An Engine with Battery Charger Connected?

I also do it all the time. Essentially the alternator and charger are in parallel. They shouldn't be competing or conflicting. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 9:35 AM Edd Schillay via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Listers, > > I’m seeing

Re: Stus-List Starting An Engine with Battery Charger Connected?

Same here. I would be intrigued as to the reasoning. I did a little googling and most of the advice against starting with the battery charger connected seemed to be grounded in misunderstandings about how electricity works. The best answer was that if you get in the habit of disconnecting your

Re: Stus-List Starting An Engine with Battery Charger Connected?

It's bad to start the engine with a battery charger connected? Been doing it for 25 years and never had a charger fail. Doug On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:02 AM Bill Coleman via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I also do it all the time and have never had a problem. > > Whey your engine

Re: Stus-List Starting An Engine with Battery Charger Connected?

I'm an electrician and I do it all the time. I can't imagine a problem with it. Like Josh, I'd like to hear a coherent argument against it. Ken H. On Wednesday, 30 October 2019, Bill Coleman via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I also do it all the time and have never had a problem. >

Re: Stus-List Starting An Engine with Battery Charger Connected?

Motoring away from the marina while plugged in and charging might be a problem Mike Hoyt Persistence From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: October 30, 2019 12:26 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Della Barba, Joe Subject: Re: Stus-List Starting An Engine with Battery

Re: Stus-List Starting An Engine with Battery Charger Connected?

I have done it with no issues since the 70s. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill Coleman via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2019 11:02 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Bill Coleman Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Starting

Re: Stus-List Starting An Engine with Battery Charger Connected?

I also do it all the time and have never had a problem. Whey your engine starts the alternator begins with a high voltage, 14+, so your shore charger would be basically ignored or not seen by your batteries, so I don’t see a problem. Usually this is only for a couple minutes till you unplug

Re: Stus-List Advice on replacing 33-2 BandG 32mm transducer with Airmar 52mm transducer

I have a in-hull transducer for depth and I don’t experience any issues. The only problem that you may see is if the liquid (antifreeze) in the body evaporates or leaks. But adding a few cubic cm3 of AF helps immediately. This is a question of checking it before leaving on a trip or standard

Re: Stus-List Advice on replacing 33-2 BandG 32mm transducer with Airmar 52mm transducer

I just removed the transducer and used a sawzall to sawed through the plastic, 180 degrees apart and drove a screwdriver to peel away the housing. 5200 is no match for that. It sticks to fiberglass great, plastic not so much. And yeah, you will most likely be into solid fiberglass, but be sure.

Re: Stus-List Starting An Engine with Battery Charger Connected?

Right or wrong, I do it all the time. I'd entertain an explanation of why it is bad. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 10:35 AM Edd Schillay via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Listers, > > I’m seeing conflicting opinions on the web and would

Stus-List Starting An Engine with Battery Charger Connected?

Listers, I’m seeing conflicting opinions on the web and would like to know from the collected wisdom of the group. Is it OK or not OK to start your engine while your battery charger is running? I was surprised to see some people say it is not, as people have been jump-starting their car

Re: Stus-List Advice on replacing 33-2 BandG 32mm transducer with Airmar 52mm transducer

As for epoxy and warmth: You can heat the inside of the boat and heat gun the penetration. Keep the resin warm before hand or even heat slightly (probably not more than 80°F). Use the fast (or cold weather) hardener. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On Wed, Oct 30, 2019,

Re: Stus-List Advice on replacing 33-2 BandG 32mm transducer with Airmar 52mm transducer

We do a lot more cruising than racing, so while I appreciate the value of these goodies, I would rather spend my boat bucks on other things. I may eventually put in a N2K backbone, however at least initially I can get by without it. I have already integrated my Standard Horizon VHF/AIS

Re: Stus-List Advice on replacing 33-2 BandG 32mm transducer with Airmar 52mm transducer

Don't forget that the boat speed also feeds into the wind instrument as it calculates true wind speed and direction. I find this helpful for planning sail sets and anticipating the differences at different points of sail. You can compare true wind conditions to the poplars of your boat. If you

Re: Stus-List Advice on replacing 33-2 BandG 32mm transducer with Airmar 52mm transducer

Thanks Josh,      I am doing the work over the winter layup in Toronto so days above 5 degrees that epoxy requires to cure can be few and far between. I am hoping to skip filling the existing hole with thickened epoxy by using an appropriately sized plug on the hold saw.  To answer your

Re: Stus-List Advice on replacing 33-2 BandG 32mm transducer with Airmar 52mm transducer

De-Bond will dissolve 5200 (so will gasoline, but don't pour it in the bilge). West and other places sell it. If you have to re-drill, pound in a wooden emergency plug so the center bit has something to bite into. Joel On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 9:23 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <

Re: Stus-List Advice on replacing 33-2 BandG 32mm transducer with Airmar 52mm transducer

As I understand it, that location forward of the keel was expected by the designers to be the location for the speed and depth transducers. As such the hull is solid in that location. If you drill it out and find otherwise then a typical removing of the core while leaving the inner and outer

Stus-List Advice on replacing 33-2 BandG 32mm transducer with Airmar 52mm transducer

It's time to replace the B and G Network Quad instruments on my 33-2. This means replacing the old 32 mm paddle wheel speed transducer with a 52 mm airmar transducer. I understand that the 33-2 is partially cored hull, so my question is the area where the transducers are currently located

Stus-List Fwd: Garmin GM10 instrument issue

Back when I did a lot of SeaTalk installs there could be similar issues. The SeaTalk bus itself carries data and power, but the current available from the SeaTalk bus was minimal. If something like an autopilot lost its main power connection, the bus voltage would be dragged down trying to make