Dennis
After reading what others have said went back out to the boat and redid
the measurement and it came out approximately the same - 67 degrees
either direction for 134 degrees travel lock to lock. However, sailing
on a tack the helm is move no more than 1/16 of a full turn, before the
Don,
Just to clarify, are you saying 65 each side for 130 degrees total travel?
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
On Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 9:09 AM Don Kern via CnC-List
wrote:
> FWIW - I just went out to my side yard and checked were Fireballs stops
> are set. Interestingly they are set
FWIW - I just went out to my side yard and checked were Fireballs stops
are set. Interestingly they are set at 65 deg., a lot more than I
expected since her rudder is two inches longer in girth than a standard
C 35 Mk2.
Don Kern
Fireball, C MK2
Bristol, RI
On 4/23/2019 9:12 AM, Chuck
Chuck,
You guys are dead on. Your concerns have already been incorporated into
the project.
Your advice on the Morch pedestal several months ago stopped me from
pulling the shaft and sprocket. Yes, some of the teeth are damaged but
there are enough undamaged teeth for proper operation.
The
Thanks, Rob.
That's exactly the info I needed. It also confirms what I'm seeing with
the reassembly. The cables coming out of the groove at the end of travel.
I will include this info in my documentation.
This has been a trial and error process at this point. I can move forward
now. Sucks
Dennis,
To echo Rob’s concerns regarding the creation of a robust rudder stop, if the
previous iteration utilized two bolts inserted in the steering chain, I would
take a thorough inspection of the pedestal sprocket. Steel bolts coming into
contact with bronze sprocket teeth under load or at
That’s one of the great features of these designs.
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On Apr 23, 2019, at 8:22 AM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
And that 36 degrees, in both of my C (a 27 MKII and my current 37/40+) have
been enough to turn the boat in its own boat length
And that 36 degrees, in both of my C (a 27 MKII and my current 37/40+) have
been enough to turn the boat in its own boat length going down a fairway
between docks.
More than enough maneuverability in my opinion... :)
Thanks Rob!
Bruce Whitmore
(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
Most all quadrants are built for a total travel 72 degrees, 36 degrees each way
. . . (historical convention)
If you turn the rudder farther than that, the cables start coming out of the
groove that holds them on the quadrant.
The largest loads that the whole steering system experiences happens
The rudder will start causing drag at about 5 degrees, 30 - 35 degrees is
usually more than enough.
Kurt & Connie Heckert
On Mon, 4/22/19, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote:
Subject: Stus-List Maximum/Optimum Rudder Travel
To: "CnClist"
Shawn, I think you're overthinking things. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
FWIW, I would think 30 degrees rudder travel is the maximum you need. The wheel
is geared and our wheel turns about 1 and 1/4 turn stop to stop. I never use
extreme rudder. Our wheel has eight spokes and one spoke from
I recently read of an account where a rudder was jammed so hard against the
hull when reversing and a steering cable broke, that it caused a loss of
steering; even the emergency tiller was unable to break it loose. So I
would imagine ensuring this can't happen at the very least should be the
goal,
Interesting question Dennis. We steer with a tiller and I don’t think we ever
go past 45 degrees. That a lot of rudder but maybe it is nice to know you still
have more if you need it. I’m interested to hear what other wheel steerers
think.
Dave. Kaseler
SLY
1975 C 33
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> On Apr
Probably not useful information, but the 35-2 we are buying gives just over
1 turn of the wheel on each side of centre. I haven't confirmed what this
looks like down below, but will be interested in the answer you get from
the experts.
On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 6:09 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
I am putting Touche's steering system back together with the upgraded
rudder travel limiting bulkhead installed in the later model 35-1's. Some
may recall my post some time back that rudder travel was limited by two
small bolts installed in the last links on each side of the chain.
I used a
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