Re: Stus-List Tiller

2014-07-08 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
What about rebuilding it? Smiths clear penetrating epoxy and wood filler can yield some pretty amazing results. Coat the whole thing in epoxy for a final coat. In the off season you can mix up a big batch an let it soak in real long. Like a couple days long. Then let it cure even longer. Josh

Stus-List Tiller

2014-07-08 Thread Brent Driedger via CnC-List
The tiller on my 27-V is on its last legsI'm going to replace it this winter and want to know the best place to order a new one from. It's design splits toward the aft end to hug the rudder and I don't see anything like it on stock shops. So custom is going to be the order of the day. How ab

Stus-List seacocks

2014-07-08 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Bob, seacocks I'm keeping my boat 2 1/2 hrs from home and closing seacocks more than I used to. I'm trying to develop better habits closing up the boat prior to leaving for the week. Got any tips or maybe a checklist? Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Ori

Stus-List water toys for guests on sailboats

2014-07-08 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Had another amazing weekend again on the Magothy River. The 20 to 30 knot Northwest wind blew the the water out of the Chesapeake Bay to cause an abnormal low tide, yet we still had enough water to leave the slip and return to pick up/drop off passengers each day. Sweet! Great sailing wind late

Stus-List Atomic 4

2014-07-08 Thread Robert Gallagher via CnC-List
I tried to stay out of this one, but the Irish whiskey has taken over. Atomic four engines are safe if properly maintained. Those of you who claim otherwise are just blowing smoke. Those of you who are under the impression that a diesel upgrade saving you .5 gallons per hour will pay off in a li

Re: Stus-List Pin in front of rudder

2014-07-08 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
ow >> missing. I am thinking of filling the hole. Does anyone know what this >> hole actually is and is there any reason why it should not be filled? >> > > > ___ > This List is provided by

Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 102, Issue 18

2014-07-08 Thread Spencer Johnson via CnC-List
le actually is and is there any reason why it should not be filled? > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http

Re: Stus-List Hot Water heater question

2014-07-08 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List
Joel, it sounds like we have the same heater and I think we have the same engine (3GMF) - I get very hot water in half an hour of engine running or less. It is too hot to wash dishes in without adding cold so you can actually put your hands in - however hot that is (and my cold water is cold - fro

Re: Stus-List Hot Water heater question

2014-07-08 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
If you are getting hot water from the cold water tap, the chances are that the hot water is "spilling" from the heater through the input hose. Marek Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote: Jake, Probably the same one. Guess I'll be flushing mine out. The drain has a hose thread on it so I can prob

Re: Stus-List Hot Water heater question

2014-07-08 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Jake, Probably the same one. Guess I'll be flushing mine out. The drain has a hose thread on it so I can probably back flush it. You may not want to know what comes out. Even on mine the cold water gets heated when the engine is running. Joel On Tuesday, July 8, 2014, Bill Bina via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Hot Water heater question

2014-07-08 Thread Bill Bina via CnC-List
I once troubleshot a home boiler with an integral domestic hot water coil. The water coming out of the taps never got more than warm. Turned out there was a "balance pipe" between the cold water input to the boiler and the domestic hot water output. In the middle

Re: Stus-List Hot Water heater question

2014-07-08 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
Joel, Not sure what heater I have. It’s old, round, and white with a black top. It gets scalding hot after 20-30 of running time. My problem is that I get hot water out of both the hot and cold faucets. Something isn’t plumbed right, I think. Jake From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list

Re: Stus-List folding prop

2014-07-08 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
Burt, Both blades are usually attached by a single large pin (Martec for example). You should see maybe an 1/8" of play between the blades. Martec rebuilds them by drilling the hole out for the next larger pin size. It lasts quite a while. Mine is over ten years old and still going strong.

Re: Stus-List Hot Water heater question

2014-07-08 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Bill you are absolutely correct. As a rule of thumb, one should always avoid drinking the water out of a water heater. Domestic, marine, RV, or otherwise. That is a strong argument for a thermal mixing valve and a temp seting of +160°. The anodes can also be made out of aluminum, thought to caus

Re: Stus-List Hot Water heater question Now Solomons

2014-07-08 Thread Chris Price via CnC-List
Josh, had a great sail to and from Solomons this weekend and completely forgot to get in touch with you. We delayed our departure until after Arthur had passed so we only had a day there. Last time I was there we sailed the Solomon's race so didn't get much time then either. Chris Price Padel

Re: Stus-List Hot Water heater question

2014-07-08 Thread Bill Bina via CnC-List
Water from a hot water heater is not considered 'potable'. It should not be used for cooking or drinking. The reason is this. The danger zone for most bacteria is 40 degrees F to 140 degrees F. There are several harmful bacteria that can live in your water heater, including legionella, if the

Re: Stus-List Hot Water heater question

2014-07-08 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
Small diesel engines under light load have less “waste” heat than a similar HP gas engine. A diesel engine also wants to be 170F to 180F to run well. Pulling waste heat off to heat domestic water when motoring for a short time or under light load (calm conditions, under hull speed) may increase

Re: Stus-List Hot Water heater question

2014-07-08 Thread Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List
It takes about an hour of running to bring the tanks (5 US gallons) up to the same water temp as the engine's water temp. Best regards, Jack Fitzgerald, export manager Fitzgerald Forwarding Co. Inc. FMC license no:1966F 260 Oatland Island Road, Savannah, GA 31410 USA Tel. no: 912 898.1069 - Fax no

Re: Stus-List Hot Water heater question

2014-07-08 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
~1/2 hrish On Jul 8, 2014 5:33 PM, "Petar Horvatic via CnC-List" wrote: > After how many hours of engine runtime is your hot water at 170F? > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh > Muckley via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 08, 2014 5:30 PM > *To

Re: Stus-List Hot Water heater question

2014-07-08 Thread Petar Horvatic via CnC-List
After how many hours of engine runtime is your hot water at 170F? From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 5:30 PM To: C&C List; Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List Hot Water heater question +1 to Jacks comment

Re: Stus-List Hot Water heater question

2014-07-08 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
+1 to Jacks comments. The difficulty with flushing is that the cold water inlet and the drain line are shared. I replumbed my heater with a 3-way valve so that when I want to flush I shift the valve and now the cold water goes IN the hot water outlet and OUT the drain at the cold water inlet tap.

Re: Stus-List Hot Water heater question

2014-07-08 Thread Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List
The hot water produced via the engine heat ex-changer in my 39 exits the faucet at slightly less that the operating temperature of the engine. If the engine water temp reads 180F the hot water at the faucet is usually about 170F. Jack Fitzgerald C&C 39 TM HONEY - US12788 Best regards, Jack Fitzg

Stus-List Hot Water heater question

2014-07-08 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
All, I've got a Raritan heater. When I run my Yanmar 30GM the hot water out of the tap is certainly cooler than I would get from my home water heater. When used to make instant coffee the coffee can be drunk right away without cooling. How hot should the water get? Do I need to flush the water

Re: Stus-List Fw: Atomic 4

2014-07-08 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
FWIW I grew up on gas powered fishing boats. The biggest problem we had was the ignition system - a problem largely solved with electronic ignition. We always lifted a hatch to smell for gas and occasionally ran the blower. We never had a problem. That being said, I'm happy to have my Yanmar 30

Re: Stus-List Fw: Atomic 4

2014-07-08 Thread Petar Horvatic via CnC-List
Having gone through two A4 rebuilds and then a replacement of A4 with DIY rebuild of westerbeake 4-108, I can say that I do feel safer with diesel under my cockpit, only because I don't have to look for leaks as often. I was comfortable with gasoline because I was aware of what is going on in my e

Re: Stus-List Fw: Atomic 4

2014-07-08 Thread Nate Flesness via CnC-List
fascinating link, thanks. But there's a much bigger denominator - 12.5 million boats registered http://www.nmma.org/news.aspx?id=18028 Basic math says we keep making boats, so the water's going to get crowded unless we increase the sinking rate Nate "Sarah Jean" 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina

Stus-List Fw: Atomic 4

2014-07-08 Thread Peter Fell via CnC-List
I'm forwarding this earlier thread with link to stats from USGC on boat accidents. Interesting info there, especially Rick picking out the 1 out of 86 fires occurring in a sailboat. -Original Message- From: Rick Brass Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:31 PM To: 'Peter Fell' ; cnc-li

Re: Stus-List Folding prop horizontal vs vertical plane..

2014-07-08 Thread Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List
Same here with our 39 TM back in the day. I still have the old shaft with it's prop mark as well as the old Martec prop on the wall in our bout house to remind just how nice it is to now own a Max Prop Jack Fitzgerald HONEY - US12788 C&C 39 TM Best regards, Jack Fitzgerald, export manager Fitzger

Re: Stus-List Folding prop horizontal vs vertical plane..

2014-07-08 Thread Martin DeYoung via CnC-List
On a C&C 39 (A4, Martec folding prop) back in the late 70's we would mark the shaft coupling with lines indicating when the prop blades were vertical. For a long offshore race like Transpac we would send one of the crew over the side to put a rubber band or two around the blades to keep them cl

Re: Stus-List Folding prop horizontal vs vertical plane..

2014-07-08 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
Sounds correct--I just was defining a plane differently than you. For example, if there was a piece of paper clutched by the blades, the paper would be held in an approximate vertical plane when folded to minimize drag. Martec's instructions 1) keep the lower blade from falling down and 2) proj

Stus-List old instruments

2014-07-08 Thread patricia barkley-higginbottom via CnC-List
Have original B&G instruments on 1986 35-3. Digital wind speed indicator, cockpit display not working, but can get reading from Hornet 4 Sailing Monitor cabin instrument. So masthead transmission of signal would seem to be OK. Does anyone have a discarded yet functioning one of these cockpit dis

Stus-List Folding prop horizontal vs vertical plane..

2014-07-08 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
My prop is folding, not feathering. On a non-geared folder If you have the blades on a vertical plane, the lower blade will hang down from gravity / add additional drag. On horizontal plane they fold together completely (Looks like a seaweed) and minimize drag. If it's a geared folder, they will

Stus-List float switches

2014-07-08 Thread Jimmy Kelly via CnC-List
my experience many switches dont activate until to late with gasoline...only safe items human nose &high quality gasoline fume detector...not detector that sniffs propane ,smoke,co2 but gas only.. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email a

Stus-List gasoline volatility

2014-07-08 Thread Jimmy Kelly via CnC-List
electric bilge pump not best way to get rid of gasoline spill but 5 miles from shore full crew &hot muffler with fuel dripping on it ...only drown whole area possible..whale 25 portable pump pumping from lake was great help..enough water in boat to above floor boards auto pumps kept us from event

Re: Stus-List folding prop

2014-07-08 Thread dwight via CnC-List
That doesn't sound right.the key should not allow the prop to move on the shaft.is the end nut on tight.is it a geared foding prop _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Burt Stratton via CnC-List Sent: July 8, 2014 11:39 AM To: 'Josh Muckley'; 'C&C List'

Re: Stus-List small hole in front of LF38 rudder tube

2014-07-08 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
I think it's easier to replace the pin, and judging from the angle of mine it has deflected a lot of stuff. If it saves you from even one episode of floating line jammed in between the rudder and hull...it's worth it. Here's a shot from last year's haulout, before the pressure wash so the OP can s

Re: Stus-List Folding prop

2014-07-08 Thread Sam Salter via CnC-List
I fitted a new 13” x 11” 2 blade flexofold to my C&C 26 this winter. Went for my first sail this season (late launch - ‘nother story!) I think I have more power in forward and reverse with the flexofold than I had with the 3 blade fixed. I don’t really notice any prop walk problems; there is sl

Re: Stus-List Folding prop

2014-07-08 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
A minor point and probably not significant regarding speed thru the water but I think you want to line the blades up to be in a vertical plane as opposed to horizontal plane. In the vertical plane, they present virtually no cross sectional area to the boat direction, whereas in the horizontal

Re: Stus-List Folding prop

2014-07-08 Thread Burt Stratton via CnC-List
That just got me even more excited to get her in the water. She just looks fast. I sanded the bottom well but did not remove all the old paint so I think it is pretty clean but certainly not burnished. Next year I think I will really go through the boat below the waterline and make sure the bottom

Stus-List Folding prop

2014-07-08 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
Hi Skip, I just put-on an old school Martec folder and I love it. Combined with a clean bottom (But old sails) and a few tweaks the boat just flies. I was out in 15-22 true wind breeze last week and detroyed my old 7.0 knots record with a whopping 8.3 (GPS Calibrated) knots sailing close hauled

Re: Stus-List folding prop

2014-07-08 Thread Burt Stratton via CnC-List
Thanks. I was wondering about that. There seems to be some play and I don't know enough about them to assess it. The play seems to be at the connection to the shaft, not where the blades hinge to the base of the prop. In other words the whole prop will move a little on the shaft. From: Josh Mu

Re: Stus-List folding prop

2014-07-08 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I would stick with what you have. Just remember that you have to throttle up pretty far to get the blade to open and start moving the boat backwards. If it is problematic for the remainder of this season you can change it out during the next haul-out. You should give the one you have a good insp

Re: Stus-List Swageless lifeline system

2014-07-08 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
http://www.suncorstainless.com/quick-attachtrade You can download the catalog from Suncor in case Defender doesn't stock the exact part or parts you need. I used this swageless system when I re-did my lifelines. They are very easy to use, and very secure for lifeline use. I would not use them

Stus-List Swageless lifeline system

2014-07-08 Thread Alex Giannelia via CnC-List
What wire is used for lifelines? 7 x 19? Type 316? Is it possible to find fittings that match the old latches from a previous swaged installation? Cheers! Alex Alex Giannelia a...@airsensing.com +1 (416) 203-9858 Office +1 (416) 529-0070 Mobile www.airsensing.com

Re: Stus-List Gear shift

2014-07-08 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
Skip, that conversation happens just about every time someone asks about an A4! LOLKeep us posted on your progress! DannyLolita1973 Viking 33Westport Point, MA -- Original Message -- From: Burt Stratton via CnC-List To: "'jtsails'" , , "'Della Barba, Joe'" Subject: Re: Stus-Li

Re: Stus-List folding prop

2014-07-08 Thread George A Cone via CnC-List
I just switched  from a fixed 2 blade and went to a wide blade folding and am very happy.  It is up to a knot faster sailing but some them,  the market specifically tend to have very poor reverse performance  to stay the least.   You certainly  can buy my old fixed at a good price  if you want it

Re: Stus-List Gear shift

2014-07-08 Thread dwight via CnC-List
Some Morse cables have a 4 inch throw while others may only have a 3 inch throw.I found that the gear shifter for the A4 on the C&C 27 that I owned several years ago required a cable with a 4 inch throw.I also played around with adjusting the plates inside the gear box to achieve better forward, ne

Stus-List folding prop

2014-07-08 Thread Burt Stratton via CnC-List
Understanding I may be opening up a new forum for debate but I have read quite a few posts about the folding clamshell props. I have one on my boat. I have no experience with them. It is sitting on the hard and this is my last chance to replace it before I launch (hopefully) next weekend. I will no

Re: Stus-List Gear shift

2014-07-08 Thread Burt Stratton via CnC-List
Appreciate the support and agree… MAN diesel does stink…. Forgot about that. Really didn’t mean to poke everyone into a big argument. I am delighted that I have the famous A-4 under my decks that I can develop a relationship with but honestly, if this hull had a running diesel in it I woul