Re: Stus-List Replacing Water Lines...

2019-01-30 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Shark bite is one popular manufacturer. They are typically metal fittings and considerably higher cost compared to the plastic alternative made by Watts. Both are significantly more expensive than the barbed fittings and crimp. In residential settings one of the significant cost advantages is

Re: Stus-List Replacing Water Lines...

2019-01-30 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
I've done a couple of plumbing and landscaping projects using PEX tubing. Lowes and probably Home Depot sell a fitting for PEX tubing that uses small teeth where the fitting engages the tubing and requires no special tool. You simply push the fitting into the tube. I've not had any leaks I know

Re: Stus-List Garhauer sliding jib cars

2019-01-30 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Following up on some earlier notes: 1) your 1980 36 probably has the same track as my 1978 34, and, if so, Garhauer knows how to machine for this track (no extra cost as I recall); 2) my cars came with the E-Z Glide system (which Rick described), which in my case had ball bearings, not plastic;

Re: Stus-List Garhauer sliding jib cars

2019-01-30 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
Garhauer has cars for both 1” and 1 ¼” standard T track. If you have the old Merriman H track (as I did on my 38) the will machine the car and build it with bearings appropriate for the track dimensions. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Glen Eddie via

Re: Stus-List Replacing Water Lines...

2019-01-30 Thread David via CnC-List
Thanks to all. Josh. Danny. My research was lacking. This email list continually assists. Thank you >From my Android From: CnC-List on behalf of Josh Muckley via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 9:09:43 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Josh

Re: Stus-List Garhauer sliding jib cars

2019-01-30 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
I have Garhauer line adjustable cars on both my 25 and my 38. Guido made the cars for the 38 to fit the old Merriman H track that was OEM, but the car also fit the new T track I installed when one of the H tracks got bent while fixing a leak in the deck. Modification was no charge. And the

Re: Stus-List Replacing Water Lines...

2019-01-30 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Keep in mind that PEX is not QEST. I can elaborate further but really just Google the differences. Also realize that the tubing used in these installations is first and foremost comparatively CHEAP. These tubes are designed for stationary fixed locations. Some technological improvements have

Re: Stus-List Replacing Water Lines...

2019-01-30 Thread Jim Reinardy via CnC-List
David, There was a thread on this about a year ago, and a couple of list members recommended Flair-It connectors for PEX. No special tools required. I have not used them personally, but made a note to give them a try. My boat still has the original polybutylene plumbing, so I am starting to

Re: Stus-List Headstay Bulkhead holding Chainplate Rotten

2019-01-30 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Dan, You may know all this but here's my 2 cents. If you cut the aft skin close to the hull, be sure to create some nice radius fillets for the tabbing. Stronger and won't create a stress load like a perpendicular tab joint. When I tab bulkheads, I grind/sand to fresh glass (I think you got

Re: Stus-List Headstay Bulkhead holding Chainplate Rotten

2019-01-30 Thread John Conklin via CnC-List
Can you share the YouTube channel please John Conklin S/V Halcyon On Jan 30, 2019, at 8:20 AM, Daniel Cormier via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Thanks for the feedback guys. Ok so now that I know that new tabbing onto bare glass with epoxy is ok as long as I grind it first -

Re: Stus-List Kaylarah for Sale

2019-01-30 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Bruce, Ironic! I was in Tampa yesterday. Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 5:05 PM Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hello Gary, > > I am sad to hear that as well, We have owned our 37/40+ for 2 years as of > tomorrow and have done a lot of work

Re: Stus-List Bring back C

2019-01-30 Thread Jerome Tauber via CnC-List
Peter Johnstone is the new Owner of Alerion Yachts which he bought from US watercraft and I believe it included C I think they’re still making the 30 one design in RI but with limited demand. There is one that races in my local fleet and flies downwind but is beaten by J109s upwind. I agree

Re: Stus-List Kaylarah for Sale

2019-01-30 Thread Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List
Hello Gary, I am sad to hear that as well,  We have owned our 37/40+ for 2 years as of tomorrow and have done a lot of work to bring her back.  If you happen to want to sell any gear specific to the model separately, please let me know offline, as I may be interested.  My email is below.

Re: Stus-List Kaylarah for Sale

2019-01-30 Thread Don Kern via CnC-List
Gary Very sorry to hear that.  Give me a yell if you are interested in crewing in some of the races or just a day sail. Don Kern Fireball, 12708 C Mk2 Bristol, RI On 1/30/2019 4:23 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List wrote:       I am very sad to report that Kaylarah is for sale.  Life's

Re: Stus-List Replacing Water Lines...

2019-01-30 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
I replaced my fresh water systems in several steps—my main goal was to get rid of PEX and to use standard hoses, standard hose fittings, and good clamps. Our situation is quite different that most of the boaters on this list. We live aboard full time and we cruise south every winter—so, we

Re: Stus-List Replacing Water Lines...

2019-01-30 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
I just replaced all my water lines and fresh water holding tanks last winter.  I used a $30 crimp tool and the band clamps for most of it.  I used some quick disconnect 90s at a low point in the bilge to drain everything down.  I also used distribution blocks and made every fixture a home run. 

Stus-List Fw: Garhauer sliding jib cars

2019-01-30 Thread Tom Alessi via CnC-List
Thanks for the feedback. Tom Alessi ANDIAMO 1980, 36 C 646-283-1580 tagraph...@optonline.net ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use

Stus-List Kaylarah for Sale

2019-01-30 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
I am very sad to report that Kaylarah is for sale. Life's circumstances have brought us to this point. Most of you who have followed my posts of a 3-1/2 year restoration project know ho much love and effort have gone into restoring her and some of you have even visited us. She is now on

Re: Stus-List Bring back C

2019-01-30 Thread Richard Bush via CnC-List
I wholeheartedly agree with Chuck's commentwhile a new boat always sounds nice, I can't imagine what I would want different on what I have, and for sure I couldn't afford it...(thank you Rob Ball)...; Richard s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596, frozen in... Richard N.

Re: Stus-List Bring back C

2019-01-30 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Chuck, Jeff Johnstone said he is always asked why he doesn't build new J30s. He said they would be $250k! On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 3:59 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > That's interesting stuff. > > I seriously don't think I could afford a newer C if they came

Re: Stus-List Bring back C

2019-01-30 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
That's interesting stuff. I seriously don't think I could afford a newer C if they came back. A boat like mine would cost $200K to $300K. I am happy with what I have. Chuck > On January 30, 2019 at 3:26 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: > > > >

Re: Stus-List Garhauer sliding jib cars

2019-01-30 Thread David via CnC-List
So many jokes...so little time...  David F. Risch, J. D. Gulf Stream Associates, LLC (401) 419-4650 From: CnC-List on behalf of Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 3:20 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Tom Buscaglia Subject:

Stus-List Bring back C

2019-01-30 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?/topic/206055-what-brands-from-the-70s80s-would-you-resurrect/ If you haven't been over to SA, be warned many of their threads would make a sailor blush. That said, C seems the leader in "Brands people would want back" :) Also the "sort of C" 30 OD

Stus-List Garhauer sliding jib cars

2019-01-30 Thread Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List
I went with the Garhaur but requested the bearings. they are a PITA to get on without loosing your balls, but I am pleased with them. Again, Harken vs Garhauer was a price thing. .¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤. Tom & Lynn Buscaglia SV Alera C 37+/40 Vashon Island WA (206) 463-9200

Stus-List Appreciating craftsmanship

2019-01-30 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Hi all, At the opposite end of the technology spectrum from America's Cup and carbon fiber, I am following the determined and persistent efforts of a young English shipwright working in Sequim, Washington State, near Port Townsend to restore a hundred year old wooden gaff rigged cutter. He's

Re: Stus-List Garhauer sliding jib cars

2019-01-30 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
When I was buying adjustable Jib cars, I talked to someone at Garhauer about their bearing style, I said ‘it doesn’t look like they recirculate – it seems like when they move, all the bearings move a little bit one way and then they all scrub on each other because there is nowhere for them to

Re: Stus-List Garhauer sliding jib cars

2019-01-30 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Garhauer changed their car design to plastic slides instead of ball bearings. The reason given was that too many people were loosing the balls when installing them. They will supply the ball bearing ones if requested. They are much better in my opinion. Gary S/V Kaylarah '90 C 37+ East

Re: Stus-List Garhauer sliding jib cars

2019-01-30 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Touche' has Lewmar Ocean cars. Would not buy again. If budget limited, Garhauer. If not, Harken. Whatever brand you get, get ball bearing cars and at least a 4:1 purchase. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville,, LA On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 11:19 AM Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List <

Re: Stus-List Garhauer sliding jib cars

2019-01-30 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
I think ours were installed at the factory when the boat was built. Harken They work great, I can move the cars to adjust the sail to the tell tails even when the genoa is loaded up.

Re: Stus-List Garhauer sliding jib cars

2019-01-30 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
I used Garhauer because Guido adapted the cars to the old track on my C 34. The cars were sufficiently robust to use them on my 42 Custom, so I kept them when I moved up (same old track). Two issues: 1) the cars do not roll as well as Harken (and possibly other brands), so if this issue is

Re: Stus-List Garhauer sliding jib cars

2019-01-30 Thread Glen Eddie via CnC-List
I use them on my c 35 mk 1 without any complaint. I have raced on other boats with Harken and they work great. The question as always is price. My only comment is that the Garhauer track for the jib cars seems to be different than other track sizes so make sure you get the garhauer track

Stus-List Garhauer sliding jib cars

2019-01-30 Thread Tom Alessi via CnC-List
Looking to add adjustable jib cars. Anybody used Garhauer or interested in other recommendations. Thx Tom Alessi ANDIAMO 1980, 36 C 646-283-1580 tagraph...@optonline.net ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and

Stus-List 1980- 36' Dodger

2019-01-30 Thread Tom Alessi via CnC-List
Looking to buy a used Dodger for my 1980 C 36 Tom Alessi 646-283-1580 tagraph...@optonline.net ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use

Re: Stus-List Replacing Water Lines...

2019-01-30 Thread Rob Ball via CnC-List
If installing waterlines, are there not tubes one could use that can tolerate freezing - so we could avoid antifreeze entirely . . . . ? In this era of plastics, surely there's a way . . . Cheers, Rob Ball C 34 r...@edsonintl.com From: David Sent: Wednesday,

Re: Stus-List Headstay Bulkhead holding Chainplate Rotten through

2019-01-30 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
As someone else said, a halyard to the toe rail somewhere near the pointy end is recommended. -Original Message- From: Russ & Melody via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 8:50 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Russ & Melody Subject: Re: Stus-List Headstay Bulkhead holding

Re: Stus-List Headstay Bulkhead holding Chainplate Rotten through

2019-01-30 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
I second Bill’s analysis. This is what I was getting at with my earlier note. I would use one of those oscillating saws to take out a portion of the inner skin to get access to the rotten core, staying well away from the hull tabbing. I would also keep the inner skin piece that I remove (see

Stus-List Replacing Water Lines...

2019-01-30 Thread David via CnC-List
I am sure this has been gone over before...so please indulge me. Replacing, re-designing, water lines in 1981 40-2. Pex is the obvious choice. Are there less obvious (and have cheaper tools required to install) choices? Has anyone improved on the original design? I am thinking of adding

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: AC75 boats

2019-01-30 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Hi Joe, Part of me feels the same way. I will never play on a pro football team, I still enjoy watching the superbowl. I accept the fact that I will probably never own or even sail on a foiling sailboat, still I see these America's Cup boats as engineering marvels and enjoy seeing the creative

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: AC75 boats

2019-01-30 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Very interesting Rick Brass. Just the way I see it and the way i saw it last Americas Cup. I have enjoyed all AC racing since the early ‘80’s before the Australian wing keel came out and i also enjoyed the last AC and was very impressed with high speed action and close encounters of these foiling

Re: Stus-List Headstay Bulkhead holding Chainplate Rotten through

2019-01-30 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
At the risk of going against the grain here, I think I would relax a little bit. Upon looking at that as close as I can with those pictures, and of course you can only see one side – (You need to light up the backside, and take several hi-res pictures of the other side) I don’t think it looks

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: AC75 boats

2019-01-30 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
Canada's Cup Using one design boats changes the race entirely. It tests/compares crew work but fails to encourage new boat designs and innovation. Check out "Evergreen", a C design which tested a jogging centerboard against a fixed keel in the 1978 race and won. Maybe Rob will write about it's

Re: Stus-List Headstay Bulkhead holding Chainplate Rotten through

2019-01-30 Thread robert via CnC-List
Dan Simply release any backstay tension and secure the mast forward with halyards. Rob Abbott AZURA C 32 - #277 Halifax, N.S. On 2019-01-30 9:40 a.m., Dan via CnC-List wrote: Actually, this is only the backing plate in the photo. At a second glance that last bolt and the plate itself does

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: AC75 boats

2019-01-30 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
Interesting perspective. This is *just me*, I well be a minority opinion, but the AC was not about cutting edge sailing to me. The 12s and Js may well have been the newest fastest things back in the 1920s, but by the time I was alive and watching it was more like seeing the best drivers in

Re: Stus-List Headstay Bulkhead holding Chainplate Rotten through

2019-01-30 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
Hi Dan, Only ease the backstay a little bit. The normal shroud tension is okay. Cheers, Russ At 05:40 AM 1/30/2019, you wrote: Actually, this is only the backing plate in the photo. At a second glance that last bolt and the plate itself does look rusty. The chainplate is on the

Re: Stus-List Headstay Bulkhead holding Chainplate Rotten through

2019-01-30 Thread Dan via CnC-List
Actually, this is only the backing plate in the photo. At a second glance that last bolt and the plate itself does look rusty. The chainplate is on the other side and I won't know how it looks until I've removed it. I'll be sure to check it over thoroughly and replace if necessary. I'm not too

Stus-List Headstay Bulkhead holding Chainplate Rotten

2019-01-30 Thread robert via CnC-List
I thought about suggesting Paul however Dan seems to be a DIYer. Paul can certainly provide good advice if you have any questions Dan. Mike, my brother was racing on that J120 when the bow sprit let go under load and blew back through the bulkhead.ugly! Rob Abbott AZURA C 32 - #277

Re: Stus-List Headstay Bulkhead holding Chainplate Rotten through

2019-01-30 Thread nausetbeach--- via CnC-List
+1 on Josh’s comment: That chain plate and those bolts looks pretty suspicious on their own. I pulled my ~ 30 year old port shroud chain plates in August, 2015 and on the surface looked a bit better [less apparent rust] than yours, but the sides of the plates that were against the

Re: Stus-List Headstay Bulkhead holding Chainplate Rotten

2019-01-30 Thread Daniel Cormier via CnC-List
Thanks for the feedback guys. Ok so now that I know that new tabbing onto bare glass with epoxy is ok as long as I grind it first - it will be strong enough. I was planning to go with plywood, isolating the bolts and access holes with solid glass so it doesn’t get wet again. (I’ll look into

Re: Stus-List Headstay Bulkhead holding Chainplate Rotten through

2019-01-30 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Hi Dan You may wish to contact Paul Gallant of Gallant Marine Services. He lives in Spinnaker Arms area very near you. Last off season he replaced a similar bulkhead in a J120 that separates the anchor locker from the vee berth. He may be willing to take a look and provide advice. This is

Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Re: AC75 boats

2019-01-30 Thread Colin Flock via CnC-List
Canada’s cup is hosted by RCYC. The next three will be in Melges IC37’s starting in 2020. See the link below. http://www.canadianyachting.ca/news-and-events/current/4296-rcyc-launches-new-canada-s-cup-program > On Jan 29, 2019, at 21:53, schiller wrote: > > Rob, > > Where is the Canada

Stus-List Headstay Bulkhead holding Chainplate Rotten

2019-01-30 Thread robert via CnC-List
Dan: From looking at your pictures, I would be concerned about the integrity of that bulkhead.  I can see five (5) bolts in the chain platetop 2 look, bottom 2 not good, middle one not sure. I would definitely cut out the rot and re-glassquestion is, are you going to remove the