Re: Stus-List Engine cooling woes fixed

2017-06-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Sucks when that happens... Thanks for the update. On Jun 4, 2017 2:22 PM, "DON JONSSON via CnC-List" wrote: > OK, this is a bit embarrassing. But here are the results. > > The original problem was the impeller breaking. In diagnosing that we > opened the strainer and

Re: Stus-List Intriguing challenge

2017-06-04 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
I would drill the top hole way oversize (like 3/8") and pull the whole works out through it. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 4 June 2017 at 11:50, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: > Good idea, but with my luck and shaky hands, I'd probably glue the

Re: Stus-List Advice for PYI shaft seal maintenance

2017-06-04 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
A regular zinc donut works well as a retainer, no need for fancy. It also provides insurance against the shaft sliding out backwards if the coupler and everything else lets go. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 4 June 2017 at 03:22, Josh Muckley via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Intriguing challenge

2017-06-04 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
I vote for option 4. Gary S/V Kaylarah '90 C 37+ East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I would drill the top hole way oversize (like 3/8") and pull the whole > works out through it. > > Jim Watts >

Re: Stus-List Westerbeke 33 oil burn

2017-06-04 Thread PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List
Sorry maybe didn't word it right The motor time was about 24 hours no wind at about 2500 rpm this was more delivery then enjoyment. Needed to get back for work Just wondering if others burn oil with their diesel to that amount. Thanks Peter Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 4, 2017, at

Re: Stus-List Westerbeke 33 oil burn

2017-06-04 Thread David Castor via CnC-List
No idea what the normal range is but my Westerbeke 21 with 2500 hours burns very little oil. Maybe 0.2 quarts in 40 hours. Of course it has a seemingly permanent coolant leak Dave On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 4:51 PM PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Sorry maybe didn't

Re: Stus-List Westerbeke 33 oil burn

2017-06-04 Thread PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List
Thanks Dave Had coolant leak as well fixed that it was the water heater loose clamp Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 4, 2017, at 7:58 PM, David Castor via CnC-List > wrote: > > No idea what the normal range is but my Westerbeke 21 with 2500 hours burns > very little

Re: Stus-List 33-2 question where does the hose in the bottom of the ice box drain to?

2017-06-04 Thread Hector Saulnier via CnC-List
"What the Hec" a C 33 m 2 is set up the same way but I find the pump does not work to take the water out. The drain may be plugged but I wonder if there is a way to open and close it that I am not seeing? Hector - Original Message - From: Dave S To: doug.we...@rogers.com ; C

Re: Stus-List Westerbeke 33 oil burn

2017-06-04 Thread David Castor via CnC-List
Also, FWIW, my oil pressure gauge reads about 75 psi. The surveyor thought that was too high, but I have no idea on the accuracy of the gauge. My mechanic didn't seem overly concerned. He said oil pressure is good. So I haven't really looked into it. On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 5:23 PM, PETER

Re: Stus-List 33-2 question where does the hose in the bottom of the ice box drain to?

2017-06-04 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
I had the same problem, pump would not prime.I replaced the pump, works fine. At the time it was cheaper at Lee Valley than at the marine store. http://www.leevalley.com/en/garden/page.aspx?cat=2,42194,40727=67259 Doug - not sure I would want that water in the bilge if that's where the PO

Re: Stus-List 33-2 question where does the hose in the bottom of the ice box drain to?

2017-06-04 Thread Hector Saulnier via CnC-List
Dave Thanks for the information Hector - Original Message - From: Dave S To: Hector Saulnier Cc: doug.we...@rogers.com ; C Stus List Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 10:09 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List 33-2 question where does the hose in the bottom of the ice box drain to? I

Re: Stus-List 33-2 water tank

2017-06-04 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
Np. Hector - what year is your boat and where is your fresh water tank located? So far seems like 85-86 are under starboard settee, moved to port in '87. Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 4, 2017, at 9:26 PM, Hector Saulnier > wrote: > > Dave > Thanks for the

Re: Stus-List Engine water cooling woes on Yanmar 3GMD

2017-06-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Did you watch the pump each time the water stopped? I think your belt may be slipping when you throttle up. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sun, Jun 4, 2017, 1:08 AM DON JONSSON via CnC-List wrote: > Hello > > Today on the first trip out for the

Re: Stus-List Advice for PYI shaft seal maintenance

2017-06-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
The requisite compression is that which eliminates leakage. If your engine mounts are soft, the prop thrust can push the engine forward and spread the bellows and collar causing a leak...While in forward. The conventional wisdom is that the shaft should have dimples drilled for the grub screws.

Re: Stus-List C 33-2 livability improvement - settee access

2017-06-04 Thread Doug Welch via CnC-List
Great idea. My boat has two pull out drawers underneath the settee that look like they might be original (teak that matches the rest of the boat) however, your solution makes much more sense. I'm adding this to my list :) Doug WelchCeltic Knot 33-2 c/b On Saturday, June 3, 2017 7:14 PM,

Re: Stus-List Engine water cooling woes on Yanmar 3GMD

2017-06-04 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
The bushing on the impeller doesn't fail. There is a key in the impeller bushing, that fits over a pin or set screw that keeps the impeller in place. It should only turn when the pulley turns. Hold the impeller while turning the pulley. If it turns, the pin is missing. Also check the tension

Re: Stus-List Engine water cooling woes on Yanmar 3GMD

2017-06-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Fair enough. Either way you need to watch the pump pulley to make sure its turning. On Jun 4, 2017 11:11 AM, "Edward Levert via CnC-List" wrote: > Be careful not to over tighten the belt. I believe 1/2 in. deflection is > called for. If too tight, you may ream out the

Stus-List Boom Rigging - now topping lift

2017-06-04 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Thoughts on boom topping lift. Like others, Touche' has a boom topping lift. It is the original wire with swage eyes on both ends. It simply runs to the masthead and terminates there. I just never built up the initiative to change it to Dyneema or equivalent. Touche' has a Garhauer rigid boom

Stus-List Intriguing challenge

2017-06-04 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Was replacing end stops on the jib track this week and noticed a knurled knob on the deck. It was the pull knob for the jib slide. See pic: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_sb5TfIENvsWm0yY3FCT0x3TjA Note knob in shadow and the top of the pull pin on the slide. It is a spring pin slide. I

Stus-List Engine cooling woes fixed

2017-06-04 Thread DON JONSSON via CnC-List
OK, this is a bit embarrassing. But here are the results. The original problem was the impeller breaking. In diagnosing that we opened the strainer and then screwed the lid back down. Reused this gasket. It leaked air but we didn't know that. The top is above the water line. We thought

Re: Stus-List Intriguing challenge

2017-06-04 Thread Larry via CnC-List
Is possible to drill from the top into the pin that would accommodate a self-tapping screw. The screw would allow you to lift the pin. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 10:28 AM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C.

Re: Stus-List Intriguing challenge

2017-06-04 Thread randy via CnC-List
Ouch, Dennis, but I wonder if a drop of five minute epoxy on a small bolt or dowel could be used? Perhaps a little oil squirted in to defeat adhesion around pin/track, clean top of pin, and glue. Go have a couple of barley pops (ne’er mind that, wait til done!), and then with some judicious

Re: Stus-List Intriguing challenge

2017-06-04 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Good idea, but with my luck and shaky hands, I'd probably glue the slide to the track. :) At the least, I'd get glue in the spring so it wouldn't lift. Dennis C. On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 1:35 PM, randy via CnC-List wrote: > Ouch, Dennis, but I wonder if a drop of five

Re: Stus-List Engine water cooling woes on Yanmar 3GMD

2017-06-04 Thread DON JONSSON via CnC-List
Thanks for the comments, but We have had the pump off a couple of times. The belt was tightened when we put it back on. There has always been water with pressure coming out of the pump, the higher the revs the more water. Whether enough pressure is hard to tell. In terms of the old

Re: Stus-List C 33-2 livability improvement - settee access

2017-06-04 Thread Michael Crombie via CnC-List
Mine is on the starboard side. As mentioned already by other listers, storage on the port side is a pain since I have to list off cushions and fold out the extra bed. Mike Atacama 33ii Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal

Re: Stus-List Engine water cooling woes on Yanmar 3GMD

2017-06-04 Thread Alan Liles via CnC-List
Does your through hull have an external strainer? That can get covered in marine growth causing a flow restriction at higher RPMs. Cheers, Al SV Elendil, 37/40+ ___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to

Stus-List Westerbeke 33 oil burn

2017-06-04 Thread PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List
Question just motored from Newport ri to Portland Maine and noted the oil dip stick when I left was full and when I got back after motoring for 24 hours was 1/2 way on the dip stick. On my big block chevy suburban I burn a quart of oil per 1000 miles. Is this normal Also I get a little

Re: Stus-List Intriguing challenge

2017-06-04 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
That's essentially my Option 1. Once I drill hole, self tapper, regular tap, etc. may all work. Key is to keep pin from rotating. Dennis C. On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Larry via CnC-List wrote: > Is possible to drill from the top into the pin that would accommodate

Re: Stus-List Engine water cooling woes on Yanmar 3GMD

2017-06-04 Thread mike amirault via CnC-List
I agree with Josh. I have seen this happen when your water pump drive belt is too slack; it will pump at low RPMs but not higher RPMs. Sometimes, during the idle winter season, the drive belt will develop a “set” and cause slippage. Tension your drive belt and try again. Mike Amirault C 33ii

Re: Stus-List Engine water cooling woes on Yanmar 3GMD

2017-06-04 Thread Edward Levert via CnC-List
Be careful not to over tighten the belt. I believe 1/2 in. deflection is called for. If too tight, you may ream out the slotted hole of the water pump pulley and round down the end of the shaft. I know as I had this happen to a newly rebuilt pump. Ed Levert C 34 Briar Patch New Orleans On Sun,

Re: Stus-List Engine water cooling woes on Yanmar 3GMD

2017-06-04 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 8:42 AM, mike amirault via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I agree with Josh. I have seen this happen when your water pump drive belt > is too slack; it will pump at low RPMs but not higher RPMs. Happens with my Universal 25XPB. My test is to try to turn

Re: Stus-List C 33-2 livability improvement - settee access

2017-06-04 Thread Bruno Lachance via CnC-List
Nice Dave, On my 1987 33 mk II the water tank is port side under this sette and it is original, so the starboard side is storage and more accessible. This must have an impact in weight distribution? How many 33 mk II owners have their tank on the starboard side? Bruno lachance Bécassine,

Re: Stus-List Intriguing challenge

2017-06-04 Thread Dave via CnC-List
YES. Bore the slide hole oversize vs the pin, the track is protected by the pin. Extract the pin. Dave. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 4, 2017, at 5:46 PM, Jim Watts wrote: > > I would drill the top hole way oversize (like 3/8") and pull the whole works > out through

Re: Stus-List Intriguing challenge

2017-06-04 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Yes. That's my Option 4. I'm leaning that way. Dennis C. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 4, 2017, at 4:46 PM, Jim Watts via CnC-List > wrote: > > I would drill the top hole way oversize (like 3/8") and pull the whole works > out through it. > > Jim Watts > Paradigm

Re: Stus-List Intriguing challenge

2017-06-04 Thread Edward Levert via CnC-List
If none of the suggestions work, go big. A saws All!! Ed Levert C 34 Briar Patch New Orleans On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 5:45 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: > Yes. That's my Option 4. I'm leaning that way. > > Dennis C. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 4, 2017, at 4:46

Re: Stus-List C 33-2 livability improvement - settee access

2017-06-04 Thread Dave via CnC-List
So, they changed in later years I guess. As discussed my '85 has water tank under starboard settee. Opposite side from the batteries, chart table, head, but same as water heater, range, refrigeration. Not sure why really. Deck fill opposite side from pumpout? Dave Sent from my iPad >

Stus-List 33-2 question where does the hose in the bottom of the ice box drain to?

2017-06-04 Thread Doug Welch via CnC-List
ours seems to be clogged and I couldn't figure out how to get to it to unclog thanks in advance cheers doug,celtic knot 33-2 c/b pickering___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contribution to offset

Re: Stus-List Boom Rigging

2017-06-04 Thread Dave via CnC-List
Same. And I bring my main halyard back when putting the boat away. Both it and the topping lift attached to a soft shackle at the boom end. Dave. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 2, 2017, at 8:26 PM, john sandford wrote: > > Seems the reason that having a topping

Re: Stus-List Advice for PYI shaft seal maintenance

2017-06-04 Thread Eric Frank via CnC-List
Josh, I do use a MacMaster shaft collar and it works well. The problem is that the PYI shaft collar does not slide easily on the prop shaft, so I can't push it aft to compress the bellows. Maybe some lubrication would help. And I won't loosen the PYI collar again on haul out, as your

Re: Stus-List 33-2 question where does the hose in the bottom of the ice box drain to?

2017-06-04 Thread Dave S via CnC-List
Windstar has a beckson siphon mate pump mounted below the sink. The ice box drain is connected to this and the pump discharge hose can be placed in the sink to pump the icebox almost dry. When not in use it is coiled up below the sink. Dave - Forwarded message -- From: Doug

Re: Stus-List Westerbeke 33 oil burn

2017-06-04 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
Would a thousand hours in the Suburban be 20 hours? How does that compare to your motoring time to Maine? I sail on the west coast so I don't have a clue how many hours of operation is involved from Newport to Maine. Rick Rohwer 509 306 1094 > On Jun 4, 2017, at 11:39, PETER OCAMPO via

Re: Stus-List Westerbeke 33 oil burn

2017-06-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Sorry for my ignorance but is it safe to assume that your westerbeke is a diesel? My diesel "burns" and leaks. Its not burning around the cylinder rings but rather getting into the valve cover and then being drawn through the breather and into the intake. A couple of years ago I installed a

Re: Stus-List Westerbeke 33 oil burn

2017-06-04 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I also wanted to give the rough equation that 1000miles is equal to about 20 hours at and average speed of 50 Mi/h. So I agree with your logic... But are they the same combustion tech? Diesel/gas? Diesel has so much higher compression. Josh On Jun 4, 2017 2:40 PM, "PETER OCAMPO via CnC-List"

Re: Stus-List Westerbeke 33 oil burn

2017-06-04 Thread Bill Dakin via CnC-List
The gauge should be replaced so that you have confidence in it at all rpm's and temps. Few engines should be that high. Bill Dakin > On Jun 4, 2017, at 8:08 PM, David Castor via CnC-List > wrote: > > Also, FWIW, my oil pressure gauge reads about 75 psi. The surveyor

Re: Stus-List Westerbeke 33 oil burn

2017-06-04 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List
I use permatex D2 for threaded fittings, and a permatex black for gaskets. I also wipe all surfaces with acetone prior to assembly. As for oil usage. How much oil does it take to go from the add Mark and full? It does sound like a lot. If you burned say 3 qts in 24 hours, that is only 1 qt

Re: Stus-List C 33-2 livability improvement - settee access

2017-06-04 Thread Lee Rosenbaum via CnC-List
-Original Message- From: Lee Rosenbaum [mailto:rosenbau...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 12:11 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: RE: CnC-List Digest, Vol 137, Issue 20 My 1985 33 mk II has water tanks in both the Port & Starbord settees. Wonder why I have two tanks and

Re: Stus-List Intriguing challenge

2017-06-04 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
That's 10 minutes with a good drill bit, including setup and cleanup and the first beer. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 4 June 2017 at 16:49, Gary Russell via CnC-List wrote: > I vote for option 4. > > Gary > S/V Kaylarah > '90 C 37+ > East