[cobirds] AOU, Changing bird names

2023-11-02 Thread Robert Righter
Hi: I would hope the American Ornithological Union would pause before changing common names of birds that are named after historic ornithologists as that could be divisive . Currently we are living in a period of time where accusations of racism are rampant and consequently we are currently

Re: [cobirds] AOU, Changing bird names

2023-11-02 Thread Evan Wilder
Robert, What if we instead consider this issue from the perspective of an ever-evolving scientific community? We failed to acknowledge the destructive effects of colonialism and racism in the past, but we have a chance to improve upon that now. If we choose to “pause” our evolution now, when

Re: [cobirds] AOU, Changing bird names

2023-11-02 Thread T. Luke George
I don't think the definitions of how racist some of these ornithologists may have been will change now that they have exposed. Best to rip off the bandaid and move on. Below are Sibley's thoughts. “As I’ve learned more about eponymous bird names over the last year, it’s become clear that these

[cobirds] Melanerpes lewis over Ken Caryl Valley, JeffCo this afternoon

2023-11-02 Thread David Suddjian
I was surprised to look up to see the bird soon-to-be-formerly-known-as Lewis's Woodpecker flying south over my neighborhood. I have had them on occasion in such fashion, but this one is later in the season. If they change the common name, then I vote for Merry Weather Woodpecker. (Ding! if you

[cobirds] Red-throated Loon, Adams County

2023-11-02 Thread Adam Vesely
Hi all, There's currently a Red-throated Loon at Ken Mitchell Park/Reservoir in Brighton (Adams County). Adam Vesely Thornton, CO -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Colorado Birds" group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [cobirds] Melanerpes lewis over Ken Caryl Valley, JeffCo this afternoon

2023-11-02 Thread Ajit Antony
Very witty, David, regarding your proposed name for the species! Ajit Antony Central Park, Co On Thu, Nov 2, 2023, 5:17 PM David Suddjian wrote: > I was surprised to look up to see the bird soon-to-be-formerly-known-as > Lewis's Woodpecker flying south over my neighborhood. I have had them

Re: [cobirds] AOU, Changing bird names

2023-11-02 Thread Mel Goff
It could be David Sibley just wants to sell more field guides with the new names.  Mel Goff Colorado Springs > On 11/02/2023 4:21 PM MDT T. Luke George wrote: > > > I don't think the definitions of how racist some of these ornithologists may > have been will change now that they have

Re: [cobirds] AOU, Changing bird names

2023-11-02 Thread Susan Rosine
Let's face it -- a lot of bird names are stupid in general. They are not descriptive. So, don't just get rid of white men's names -- Junco - Spanish for reed. ? Mallard -- old French/English for Drake ? Wren -- who knows? Haha Loon -- they aren't crazy (haha) Waterthrushes are

Re: [cobirds] AOU, Changing bird names

2023-11-02 Thread Susan Rosine
Serious question -- are there people who actually cringe? I have African and American Indian ancestors, and I've never cringed. I've also never looked up these men and read all about them. Just some dude named Wilson or Steller or McCown or Townsend. Oh wait, I am related to Townsend, so I do know

Re: [cobirds] AOU, Changing bird names

2023-11-02 Thread Megan Miller
I am a freshly minted 31 year old and I have been part of Colorados birding community for around 20 years. I grew up here, found my passion for birds and wildlife here, and built a career out of it. It was very difficult and now that I am here the path forward doesn’t feel any easier. We still

Re: [cobirds] AOU, Changing bird names

2023-11-02 Thread nic korte
As an old guy lucky enough to go birding now and then with some 20-somethings…they are very passionate about this. They are the future. (I agree with Kenn Kaufman, however, the loss of an honorific such as Parker’s Antbird, would seem wrong. Besides, some of those families are so similar

Re: [cobirds] AOU, Changing bird names

2023-11-02 Thread Bonnie Morgan
why aren't we worried about renaming birds named for women's body parts? On Thu, Nov 2, 2023, 6:28 PM Evan Wilder wrote: > Robert, > > What if we instead consider this issue from the perspective of an > ever-evolving scientific community? We failed to acknowledge the > destructive effects of

Re: [cobirds] AOU, Changing bird names

2023-11-02 Thread Eric DeFonso
I've just turned 56 and have now been birding for 30 years, but I am excited about the prospect of some significant name-changes. I too have had the opportunity to get to know a lot of young birders, and they get it, which delights me. Personally, yes, I cringed once I realized who John McCown