Re: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-15 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 14 March 2003 22:01, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote, On 14/03/2003 14.49: But I would like to be able to build cocoon without them and prevent people with the ability to use them to solve their problems. Just like Carsten wants to do with the flow or XSP.

Re: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-15 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Niclas Hedhman wrote, On 15/03/2003 9.25: On Friday 14 March 2003 22:01, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote, On 14/03/2003 14.49: But I would like to be able to build cocoon without them and prevent people with the ability to use them to solve their problems. Just like Carsten

Re: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-15 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Niclas Hedhman wrote, On 15/03/2003 9.25: On Friday 14 March 2003 22:01, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote, On 14/03/2003 14.49: But I would like to be able to build cocoon without them and prevent people with the ability to use them to solve their problems. Just like Carsten

Re: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-15 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Saturday 15 March 2003 17:37, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Niclas Hedhman wrote, On 15/03/2003 9.25: On Friday 14 March 2003 22:01, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote, On 14/03/2003 14.49: But I would like to be able to build cocoon without them and prevent people with the

Re: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-15 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Niclas Hedhman wrote, On 15/03/2003 11.01: On Saturday 15 March 2003 17:37, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: ... Any suggestion on what you would want to have to create your customized version of Cocoon given the above point? Well, I am not in that position, just came yo think about the possibility...

[Fwd: Re: [heads-up] wiki abuse: your advice please]

2003-03-15 Thread Steven Noels
explicitely asking for opinions over here Original Message Subject: Re: [heads-up] wiki abuse: your advice please Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:48:15 +0100 From: Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Outerthought To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References:

Re: exclusion of certain blocks from build is busted

2003-03-15 Thread Bernhard Huber
hi, Today one of the blocks is broken. I tried to get around it as usual by un-commenting the line in local.blocks.properties to no avail. i made a CVS update, and had no problem running build webapp, i even tried setting in local.block.properties all entries from #exclude.block.XXX=true to

Re: [heads-up] wiki abuse: your advice please

2003-03-15 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Saturday 15 March 2003 18:29, Matt Sergeant wrote: On Friday, Mar 14, 2003, at 13:46 Europe/London, Steven Noels wrote: while briefly checking the Wiki, I was confronted with some apparent abuse: people uploading attachments which don't have much to do with Cocoon (possibly just making

Re: [GUMP] Good news and bad

2003-03-15 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Berin Loritsch wrote: Now, more good news: On March 18, 2003 Avalon will be releasing a new set of Excalibur components (as part of our continuing effort stated above). You will have a new version of ECM and its dependencies. ECM now has a big jar option which merges ECM's Avalon dependencies

Re: [Patch] cocoon.bat issues

2003-03-15 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Jeff Ramsdale wrote: With recent updates of Cocoon 2.1-dev from CVS I haven't been able to get the embedded Jetty to start up (Windows ME, j2sdk1.4.0). Turning echo on I discovered 2 endless loops in cocoon.bat. Initially there were duplicate gotPort and gotWebapp labels; I changed the duplicate

Re: Flows with Jelly as backend?

2003-03-15 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Andreas Hochsteger wrote: Hi everybody! I wonder if anybody ever looked at jelly: http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/jelly/ I found a hint to it in the Wyona/Lenya users mailing list. It consists of an XML syntax and a tool wich interprets the XML documents and it seems to be similar to

Re: [RT] Flow as a block

2003-03-15 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Friday 14 March 2003 22:01, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote, On 14/03/2003 14.49: But I would like to be able to build cocoon without them and prevent people with the ability to use them to solve their problems. Just like Carsten wants to do with the

Re: exclusion of certain blocks from build is busted

2003-03-15 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Bernhard Huber wrote: hi, Today one of the blocks is broken. I tried to get around it as usual by un-commenting the line in local.blocks.properties to no avail. i made a CVS update, and had no problem running build webapp, i even tried setting in local.block.properties all entries from

Re: xml.apache.org cvs details wrong

2003-03-15 Thread Diana Shannon
On Friday, March 14, 2003, at 08:16 PM, David Crossley wrote: However, this raises an issue. I presume that considering Cocoon is now a top-level project, that all reference to the Cocoon project should be removed from xml.apache.org That will be tricky because the xml-site CVS module contains

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 17930] - [PATCH] update on FOP serializer docs

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Jelly as MarkupLanguage Was Re: Flows with Jelly as backend?

2003-03-15 Thread Bernhard Huber
snip/ I would personally dislike this option because Jelly is rewriting a programming language using a markup language syntax, which is, IMHO, a very bad thing to do. Well, disliking Jelly on the ServerSide I think Jelly-Swing on the client-side would be a quite interesting option. Not using a

RE: [heads-up] wiki abuse: your advice please

2003-03-15 Thread Reinhard Pötz
From: Matt Sergeant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Friday, Mar 14, 2003, at 13:46 Europe/London, Steven Noels wrote: while briefly checking the Wiki, I was confronted with some apparent abuse: people uploading attachments which don't have much to do with Cocoon (possibly just making

Re: Jelly as MarkupLanguage Was Re: Flows with Jelly as backend?

2003-03-15 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Bernhard Huber wrote: snip/ I would personally dislike this option because Jelly is rewriting a programming language using a markup language syntax, which is, IMHO, a very bad thing to do. Well, disliking Jelly on the ServerSide I think Jelly-Swing on the client-side would be a quite

Gump and CocoonDev

2003-03-15 Thread Sam Ruby
OK, it looks like Cocoon's core well on its way to reliably compiling every day with Gump. Lately Avalon has gotten a reappreciation of the importance of backwards compatibility. This is very very good. Progress towards compiling cocoon's blocks is held up due to the fact that the indicated

Re: Discussion of Flow Issues

2003-03-15 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Christopher Oliver wrote: Here's a summary of some of the recent issues with the Flow for discussion: 1) Storing the flow context object and continuation in environment attributes: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-devm=104673257019781w=2 This seems easy to fix. But I personally

Cocoon compiles in Gump!!!

2003-03-15 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Good news, everyone! For the first time in the history of Gump, we were able to run clean last night. Now we have a problem: the block builds expect a cocoon jar, but before packaging we have to compile the blocks because they patch the role file which is included into the package. We have a

Re: Gump and CocoonDev

2003-03-15 Thread Steven Noels
Sam Ruby wrote: I've prep'ed cocoondev.org, and am nearly ready to try a full build. Preping involved installing the necessary packages [1], tailoring some of the paths in nagoya.xml to produce cocoondev.xml, and determining the appropriate value for JAVA_HOME. I've done some limited testing,

Re: Cocoon compiles in Gump!!!

2003-03-15 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote, On 15/03/2003 17.31: Good news, everyone! For the first time in the history of Gump, we were able to run clean last night. Now we have a problem: the block builds expect a cocoon jar, but before packaging we have to compile the blocks because they patch the role file

RE: [Patch] cocoon.bat issues

2003-03-15 Thread Jeff Ramsdale
Duh, I've used command switches before in DOS! I guess I just didn't recognize THOSE switches, (not have moved to NT or XP yet) so I was thrown off. My bad! Fix works just fine. I had another question I forgot to address in my original message. When starting up Jetty with cocoon.bat a message is

Re: [Patch] cocoon.bat issues

2003-03-15 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Jeff Ramsdale wrote: Duh, I've used command switches before in DOS! I guess I just didn't recognize THOSE switches, (not have moved to NT or XP yet) so I was thrown off. My bad! Fix works just fine. Glad to hear that. I had another question I forgot to address in my original message. When

Re: Cocoon compiles in Gump!!!

2003-03-15 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: The better hacky solution: in the package target add a new 'blocks build' target that just runs the xconftool: !-- like the old package target -- target name=full-package depends=package, blocks/ ... !-- package the core (new) -- target name=package-core

Re: Flows with Jelly as backend?

2003-03-15 Thread Andreas Hochsteger
On Saturday 15 March 2003 13:56, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Andreas Hochsteger wrote: Hi everybody! I wonder if anybody ever looked at jelly: http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/jelly/ I found a hint to it in the Wyona/Lenya users mailing list. It consists of an XML syntax and a

Re: Cocoon compiles in Gump!!!

2003-03-15 Thread ivelin
Congratulations. Stefano, what is your current guestimate for the 2.1 arrival date? Does it depends on the completion of the transfer to the new domain? -=Ivelin=-

Re: Cocoon compiles in Gump!!!

2003-03-15 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
ivelin wrote: Congratulations. Stefano, what is your current guestimate for the 2.1 arrival date? I honestly don't know. Does it depends on the completion of the transfer to the new domain? Yes, for one. I'll follow up with a specific email on that. Stefano.

The road to Cocoon 2.1

2003-03-15 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
I would like to see Cocoon released as soon as possible, but not sooner. There are a few things to do before we can release and there are two realms: 1) internal - things inside the distribution - flow - finish polishing the object model - provide a block-like method for

Re: The road to Cocoon 2.1

2003-03-15 Thread Tim Myers
I usually just lurk... - write a block-like modular system in the build for - flow - xsp - actions (yet to be agreed upon) - instrumentation (yet to be understood how) Can't this wait until a 2.1 point release? It is a major change but doesn't

Re: Gump and CocoonDev

2003-03-15 Thread Sam Ruby
Steven Noels wrote: Once this is accomplished, I'll look into two things: publishing the results and moving the data to a location where everybody with the ability to log onto cocoondev can do updates and builds of any and all individual projects in between nightly runs. I fully expect people

Re: The road to Cocoon 2.1

2003-03-15 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 15/3/03 21:54, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - flow - finish polishing the object model Working on getting the IDL polished and improved... Sorry for being absent this week, but had some issues and work and my dad's visiting me for the first time in 4 years! (family

Re: Jelly as MarkupLanguage Was Re: Flows with Jelly as backend?

2003-03-15 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 15/3/03 14:37, Bernhard Huber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip/ I would personally dislike this option because Jelly is rewriting a programming language using a markup language syntax, which is, IMHO, a very bad thing to do. Well, disliking Jelly on the ServerSide I think Jelly-Swing

Re: Gump and CocoonDev

2003-03-15 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 15/3/03 16:31, Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Before I do a full build, I would like to note a few things and ask a few questions. Execution of a number of builds involve testing. Some builds require Xvfb in order to work. I notice that there is an instance of this process

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 17671] - [PATCH] CLI Traversal Enhancements

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 17671] - [PATCH] CLI Traversal Enhancements

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Re: xml.apache.org cvs details wrong

2003-03-15 Thread David Crossley
Diana Shannon wrote: David Crossley wrote: snip/ However, this raises an issue. I presume that considering Cocoon is now a top-level project, that all reference to the Cocoon project should be removed from xml.apache.org That will be tricky because the xml-site CVS module contains

Re: exclusion of certain blocks from build is busted

2003-03-15 Thread David Crossley
Bernhard Huber wrote: David Crossley wrote: Today one of the blocks is broken. I tried to get around it as usual by un-commenting the line in local.blocks.properties to no avail. i made a CVS update, and had no problem running build webapp, i even tried setting in local.block.properties

Re: The road to Cocoon 2.1

2003-03-15 Thread Jeff Turner
On Sat, Mar 15, 2003 at 06:09:44PM -0500, Tim Myers wrote: I usually just lurk... - write a block-like modular system in the build for - flow - xsp - actions (yet to be agreed upon) - instrumentation (yet to be understood how) Can't this wait

Re: Gump and CocoonDev

2003-03-15 Thread Steven Noels
Sam Ruby wrote: Ultimately, we'll have to discuss what groups people are assigned to and whether or not /etc/bashrc should be modified so that umask is set to 002 for everybody. What we need to ensure is that there is no problem with permissions of files that people create. umask isn't

Re: [heads-up] wiki abuse: your advice please

2003-03-15 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Friday, Mar 14, 2003, at 13:46 Europe/London, Steven Noels wrote: while briefly checking the Wiki, I was confronted with some apparent abuse: people uploading attachments which don't have much to do with Cocoon (possibly just making benefit of the bandwidth we are sponsoring), people