Re: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-15 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Jeremy Quinn wrote: > > At 4:55 pm +0200 12/4/02, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > >Jeremy Quinn wrote: > >> > >> At 1:53 pm +0200 11/4/02, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > >> >Jeremy Quinn wrote: > >> > > >> >> How can we reconcile the differences between the needs of a generic form > >> >> handling mechani

Re: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-15 Thread Jeremy Quinn
At 4:55 pm +0200 12/4/02, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: >Jeremy Quinn wrote: >> >> At 1:53 pm +0200 11/4/02, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: >> >Jeremy Quinn wrote: >> > >> >> How can we reconcile the differences between the needs of a generic form >> >> handling mechanism for both Business Logic and Content

RE: Package Names was RE: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-15 Thread Morrison, John
> From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > > > > > > What about: > > > > org.apache.cocoon.webapps.session > > org.apache.cocoon.webapps.authentication > > org.apache.cocoon.webapps.portal > > org.apache.cocoon.webapps.forms > > > Funny, in fact (belie

RE: Package Names was RE: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-15 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > > > What about: > > org.apache.cocoon.webapps.session > org.apache.cocoon.webapps.authentication > org.apache.cocoon.webapps.portal > org.apache.cocoon.webapps.forms > Funny, in fact (believe it or not) "webapps" was my first thought, too. But I thought noone would

Re: Package Names was RE: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-15 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
From: "Carsten Ziegeler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > last week we agreed on moving the authentication and portal > components from the scratchpad into the main area. > For this we have to remove the sun*** names from the components. > > It seems that the "functionality" approach is the way to go, > so

Package Names was RE: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-15 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Hi Team, last week we agreed on moving the authentication and portal components from the scratchpad into the main area. For this we have to remove the sun*** names from the components. It seems that the "functionality" approach is the way to go, so the packages should be named "authentication" a

Re: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-12 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Jeremy Quinn wrote: > > At 1:53 pm +0200 11/4/02, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > >Jeremy Quinn wrote: > > > >> How can we reconcile the differences between the needs of a generic form > >> handling mechanism for both Business Logic and Content Management? > > > >I say we don't even try. > > fair eno

Re: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-12 Thread Jeremy Quinn
At 1:53 pm +0200 11/4/02, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: >Jeremy Quinn wrote: > >> How can we reconcile the differences between the needs of a generic form >> handling mechanism for both Business Logic and Content Management? > >I say we don't even try. fair enough >Forms generate highly structured da

Re: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-11 Thread Uli Mayring
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > Forms generate highly structured data while browser-based content > editing generates semi-structured data. > > These datasets are so different they can't be handled (nicely!) with the > same database, why would you think this model doesn't apply to

Re: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-11 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Jeremy Quinn wrote: > How can we reconcile the differences between the needs of a generic form > handling mechanism for both Business Logic and Content Management? I say we don't even try. Forms generate highly structured data while browser-based content editing generates semi-structured data.

Re: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-11 Thread Jeremy Quinn
At 2:16 pm +0200 10/4/02, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > b) the form-handling stuff should be merged into a coherent proposal >and moved over to the trunk. The old stuff currently placed in the >scratchpad should be removed. The main problem as I see it for integrating abilities of the "content-edit

Re: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-10 Thread Christian Haul
On 10.Apr.2002 -- 02:16 PM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > This series has been placed in a CVS branch. The Cocoon developers are > committed to support the 2.0.x branch until the 2.1.x branch becomes > solid enough for people to move over. +1 although I though this scratchpad thingy is as good as a

RE: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-10 Thread Matthew Langham
John Morrison wrote: >> I'd prefer them seperated - I can imagine uses where the auth toolkit is needed but not the portal... << Yepp of course. That's correct. They should be seperated. Matthew - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-10 Thread Torsten Curdt
> So, this said, here is the summary of the previous vote for 2.1-dev: > > 1) the TreeProcessor becomes the central pipeline manager. The old > compiled sitemap gets removed (not 'deprecated' because that might > happen in future versions of the 2.0.x branch, I see no need in > deprecating this

RE: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-10 Thread Morrison, John
Weblogging at: http://www.need-a-cake.com > Cocoon book: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735712352 > = > > > > -Original Message----- > From: Steven Noels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 3:50 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Su

RE: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-10 Thread Matthew Langham
m/exec/obidos/ASIN/0735712352 = -Original Message- From: Steven Noels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 3:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [vote] Development Roadmap Carsten wrote: > >

RE: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-10 Thread Steven Noels
Carsten wrote: > First we need some good package names. Of course the > effective approach > would > be to use something like "session", "authentication" and "portal", but > that's > really boring. But effective & clear... We could get rid of the Sun prefix, rephrase some of them using these 'b

RE: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-10 Thread Morrison, John
> From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Steven Noels wrote: > > > > Carsten wrote: > > > > > > a) the sun stuff must change name and things must be > > > refactored to > > > > understand what is a global feature and what is a sample. I > > > would like > > > > Carsten to prop

RE: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-10 Thread Lewis, Andrew J
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:08 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [vote] Development Roadmap > > > Steven Noels wrote: > > > > Carsten wrote: > > > > > > a) the sun stuff must change name and t

RE: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-10 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Steven Noels wrote: > > Carsten wrote: > > > > a) the sun stuff must change name and things must be > > refactored to > > > understand what is a global feature and what is a sample. I > > would like > > > Carsten to propose a plan on this specificaly > > > > > Yes, a name change is really re

RE: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-10 Thread Steven Noels
Carsten wrote: > > a) the sun stuff must change name and things must be > refactored to > > understand what is a global feature and what is a sample. I > would like > > Carsten to propose a plan on this specificaly > > > Yes, a name change is really required. Unfortunately, we are > currentl

Re: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-10 Thread Berin Loritsch
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > Before we go on, I think we should vote on the 'development roadmap' > that we should follow. This helps us understand what should go in the > main trunk and why. > > 2.0.x > - > > This series has been placed in a CVS branch. The Cocoon developers are > committed t

RE: [vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-10 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > Before we go on, I think we should vote on the 'development roadmap' > that we should follow. This helps us understand what should go in the > main trunk and why. > Very good idea! > 2.0.x > - > > This series has been placed in a CVS branch. The Cocoon develop

[vote] Development Roadmap

2002-04-10 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Before we go on, I think we should vote on the 'development roadmap' that we should follow. This helps us understand what should go in the main trunk and why. 2.0.x - This series has been placed in a CVS branch. The Cocoon developers are committed to support the 2.0.x branch until the 2.1.x