RE: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-10 Thread Steven Noels
checkout todo-doc.xml and see where I can help. Let's keep this train rolling! Cheers, > -Original Message- > From: Steven Noels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: maandag 6 mei 2002 20:11 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [vote] cocoon-docs > > > Dian

Re: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-09 Thread David Crossley
Ivelin Ivanov wrote: > > > Is there a easy way to create a docs list and have a server side robot > automatically prepend [DOCS] to the subject and forward each > message to the users and dev list? > > I am +1 if this is doable. We certainly should explore some solutions. I wonder about your pr

Doc: next steps (Was: [vote] cocoon-docs)

2002-05-09 Thread David Crossley
Ivelin Ivanov wrote: > The discussion on where the DOCS should be discussed is burning a lot of > energy which could be used to build the DOCS. > > Yes, newbie friendly documentation is a must for Cocoon's survival. I am > also having difficulties helping people get up to speed on simple problems,

Re: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-09 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
d dev list? I am +1 if this is doable. Cheers, Ivelin - Original Message - From: "Stefano Mazzocchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [vote] cocoon-docs > Diana Shannon wrote: > > &g

Re: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-09 Thread Diana Shannon
On May 9, 2002, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: >> If it doesn't work, too bad, but at least we tried but this list is >> focused on entirely different things and it's driven by psycological >> fuel which is not the proper one for the other community to prosper. > > Ok, this makes sense, even if I

RE: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-07 Thread John Morrison
Actually, when I said developers I ment people with commit access. But, thinking about it, if you don't care about the code or the documentation, I don't believe you should be using the -dev list; just the -user one. Personally, I'll monitor the documentation emails whether they come through -de

Re: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-07 Thread Carlos
David, John, et al: I would very strongly recommend against increasing traffic on one list by piping another lists output to it. I believe that the nature documentation discussion is parallel to the development process. I would also caution against mass subscribing people to cocoon-docs. I woul

Re: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-07 Thread Robert Koberg
+1 for the cocoon-docs list I feel developers have little patience for the issues/details of document management and would some squash threads that might need further exploration. best, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-07 Thread David Crossley
Gerhard Froehlich wrote: > +0 here. > > I'm not 100% convinced, that we can seperate the document > process from the development process this clear. > > I'm afraid that will cause lots of cross postings in both > lists. I too am concerned on this front. However, i think that there is a solution

RE: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-07 Thread Gerhard Froehlich
+0 here. I'm not 100% convinced, that we can seperate the document process from the development process this clear. I'm afraid that will cause lots of cross postings in both lists. greets gerhard -- Gerhard Fröhlich IBM Account Au

RE: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-07 Thread Morrison, John
> From: David Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Personally I'm +0 on a new list, I already subscribe to *far* too many, having said that... > *) It would be an easy matter for all Developers to subscribe > to the new list. This should not make any difference to them, > as they can easily filte

Re: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Tuesday 07 May 2002 08:18, David Crossley wrote: > I vote +1 for the formation of a new cocoon-docs list. > My reasons ... >. . . +1 on all of David's points - I think your points are much stronger than all the "against" points that have been mentioned. -Bertrand ---

Re: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-06 Thread David Crossley
I vote +1 for the formation of a new cocoon-docs list. My reasons ... *) The main aim of this effort is to get Users involved in the process. If they are forced to subscribe to cocoon-dev to do this, then they could easily be frightened away by the intensity of the general dev discussions. Pre-pe

Re: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Monday 06 May 2002 14:03, Diana Shannon wrote: > I'm ready to put my full support behind the creation of a separate docs > lists for the documentation effort. . . +1 for a separate docs list. I'm assuming (dreaming?) some users who would not participate in cocoon-dev will find it less intim

RE: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-06 Thread Steven Noels
Diana, No voting rights on cocoon issues, but since I correspond on Cocoon and Forrest doco issues on this and the forrest-dev list, I think we have enough lists already. So here goes my informal -1. What I would really like however is having the infrastructural topics of documentation issues to

Re: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-06 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
> > > >If I remember well I already -1d the docs list, but if it wasn't clear, here >is my -1. > >The motivation: XSP list has been a failure at a time when there were *tons* >of mails on xsps on the dev and user list, more than now. > >Let's put a [DOC] header in front of each doc mail, and if/wh

Re: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-06 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
From: "Ivelin Ivanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I am ready to keep monitor and be responsive to any expertise questions that > may arise on the dev-list. > > Like Crhistian, I am not sure a separate doc list would survive. Seems like > the dev-list can still handle some more traffic. Maybe we should

Re: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-06 Thread Diana Shannon
On May 6, 2002, Carlos wrote: > Cris: > > There are two types of documentation for any given project. The first > type > is the one you mentioned where the user writes the documentation of > what he > learnt and the process he followed to get things working. Very important point of clarificat

Re: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-06 Thread Carlos
Cris: There are two types of documentation for any given project. The first type is the one you mentioned where the user writes the documentation of what he learnt and the process he followed to get things working. The second type, which I think Diana is looking for, is the more formal documenta

Re: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-06 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
day are exceeded the doc list can split. Remember the XSP list... Cheers, Ivelin - Original Message - From: "Diana Shannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 7:03 AM Subject: [vote] cocoon-docs > I'm ready to put my fu

Re: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-06 Thread Christian Haul
On 06.May.2002 -- 08:03 AM, Diana Shannon wrote: > I'm ready to put my full support behind the creation of a separate docs > lists for the documentation effort *if* enough developers on this list > will agree to monitor the list and participate when their expertise is > needed. Otherwise, the l

Re: [vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-06 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Diana Shannon wrote: > > I'm ready to put my full support behind the creation of a separate docs > lists for the documentation effort *if* enough developers on this list > will agree to monitor the list and participate when their expertise is > needed. Otherwise, the list will die, and we'll have

[vote] cocoon-docs

2002-05-06 Thread Diana Shannon
I'm ready to put my full support behind the creation of a separate docs lists for the documentation effort *if* enough developers on this list will agree to monitor the list and participate when their expertise is needed. Otherwise, the list will die, and we'll have to move the discussion back