RE: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-27 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: PS While we are at this issue... Can you also compile excalibur with InformixDataSource included? This would close http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=8875. I really would like to, but unfortunately I don't have the Informix Driver and can't get the

RE: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-27 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Vadim Gritsenko wrote: PS While we are at this issue... Can you also compile excalibur with InformixDataSource included? This would close http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=8875. I really would like to, but

RE: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: It's a non-issue comparing to the real issue: 1. Compiling with JDK1.4 against JDK1.4's rt.jar gives incompatible with 1.3 code (IIRC, StringBuffer.append() issue) 2. Compiling with JDK1.4 against JDK1.3's rt.jar gives incompatible with 1.4 code (JDBC 3.0 is not in

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: From: Sylvain Wallez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Christian Haul wrote: there's a -target release switch to javac. Yes, and this is set to 1.2 (I

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: It's a non-issue comparing to the real issue: 1. Compiling with JDK1.4 against JDK1.4's rt.jar gives incompatible with 1.3 code (IIRC, StringBuffer.append() issue) 2. Compiling with JDK1.4 against JDK1.3's rt.jar gives incompatible with 1.4 code

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Will compilation with JDK1.4 against JDK1.3's rt.jar but with JDBC 3.0 in front of it help? Yes, this is much more complicated than it should be. The best solution would be to make only source distributions and skip the binary ones :( Or to make two binary distributions, one for JDK

RE: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
From: Nicola Ken Barozzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: It's a non-issue comparing to the real issue: 1. Compiling with JDK1.4 against JDK1.4's rt.jar gives incompatible with 1.3 code (IIRC, StringBuffer.append() issue) 2. Compiling with

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Enke, Michael
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Will compilation with JDK1.4 against JDK1.3's rt.jar but with JDBC 3.0 in front of it help? Yes, this is much more complicated than it should be. The best solution would be to make only source distributions and skip the binary ones :( Or to make two

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Enke, Michael wrote : snip/ 1.4 is not a pain, 1.3 was a pain, at least when you have to handle it for different Linux distributions. v1.3 from sun was not running on SuSE, that one from IBM was not running on RedHat. v1.4 runs on both, thats why I switched to JDK1.4 with cocoon2.0.2 I would

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Jason Foster
1.4 is not a pain, 1.3 was a pain, at least when you have to handle it for different Linux distributions. v1.3 from sun was not running on SuSE, that one from IBM was not running on RedHat. v1.4 runs on both, thats why I switched to JDK1.4 with cocoon2.0.2 I would vote for supporting

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Sylvain Wallez wrote: Enke, Michael wrote : snip/ 1.4 is not a pain, 1.3 was a pain, at least when you have to handle it for different Linux distributions. v1.3 from sun was not running on SuSE, that one from IBM was not running on RedHat. v1.4 runs on both, thats why I switched to

RE: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Ditto. Just make sure that Excalibur is built with appropriate version too - it has JDBC code too. That's the problem I hinted at in my first email. Doing it correctly we would have to build two versions of excalibur (1.2 compatible and 1.4 compatible) ourselfs! And

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Torsten Curdt
On Wednesday 26 June 2002 16:22, Morrison, John wrote: Could we keep two versions of avalon-excalibur-20020612.jar... avalon-excalibur-13-20020612.jar and avalon-excalibur-14-20020612.jar and get Ant to use as appropriate? this sounds like a good idea -- Torsten

RE: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Definately against this. Users with 1.4 will not be able to use the binary dist. Bleah :-P Let's do them a favor, you compile it for them and call it dist-14. Why can't they use the binary dist? 1.4 is compatible to 1.2. I have no problems with building a

RE: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Ditto. Just make sure that Excalibur is built with appropriate version too - it has JDBC code too. That's the problem I hinted at in my first email. Doing it correctly we would have to build two versions of

RE: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
From: Nicola Ken Barozzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Ditto. Just make sure that Excalibur is built with appropriate version too - it has JDBC code too. That's the problem I hinted at in my first email. Doing it correctly we would

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
That's the problem I hinted at in my first email. Doing it correctly we would have to build two versions of excalibur (1.2 compatible and 1.4 compatible) ourselfs! And this is something I really don't want to do. This would result in a real nightmare and which version do we keep in our

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Stuart Roebuck
On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, at 03:22 pm, Morrison, John wrote: Could we keep two versions of avalon-excalibur-20020612.jar... avalon-excalibur-13-20020612.jar and avalon-excalibur-14-20020612.jar and get Ant to use as appropriate? I think it would be *very* helpful to establish a

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: ... So we could make a binary distribution for 1.2,1.3 and that would even run with 1.4 except perhaps when it comes to JDBC. So anyone really requiring JDBC 3.0 has to build Excalibur and Cocoon himself. Definately against this. Users with 1.4 will not be able

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Stuart Roebuck
On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, at 03:59 pm, Stuart Roebuck wrote: On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, at 03:22 pm, Morrison, John wrote: Could we keep two versions of avalon-excalibur-20020612.jar... avalon-excalibur-13-20020612.jar and avalon-excalibur-14-20020612.jar and get Ant to use as

RE: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Morrison, John
From: Stuart Roebuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, at 03:59 pm, Stuart Roebuck wrote: On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, at 03:22 pm, Morrison, John wrote: Could we keep two versions of avalon-excalibur-20020612.jar... avalon-excalibur-13-20020612.jar and

RE: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Morrison, John
From: Nicola Ken Barozzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Morrison, John wrote: I do wish JJAR was finished... :( Well, it works, Centipede is using it with great satisfaction. In that case - would this be a (possible) solution? J.

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Morrison, John wrote: From: Nicola Ken Barozzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Morrison, John wrote: I do wish JJAR was finished... :( Well, it works, Centipede is using it with great satisfaction. In that case - would this be a (possible) solution? Hmmm... you mean make checking for JDK part

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: From: Sylvain Wallez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Christian Haul wrote: there's a -target release switch to javac. Yes, and this is set to 1.2 (I hope) and afaiu it

RE: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread John Morrison
From: Nicola Ken Barozzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Morrison, John wrote: From: Nicola Ken Barozzi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Morrison, John wrote: I do wish JJAR was finished... :( Well, it works, Centipede is using it with great satisfaction. I'll have to take another look. I've not see

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-26 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
It seems to me it would be nice if: JDK dependant code seperated from the non-JDK dependant code. The source and binary distributions BOTH included the jdk dependant code precompiled, with an option to recompile it or not provided the correct JDK. At runtime the JDK version were detected and

RE: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-25 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Christian Haul wrote: there's a -target release switch to javac. Yes, and this is set to 1.2 (I hope) and afaiu it affects only the byte-code but not the libraries/packages used for compilation. In Ant, there is a

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-25 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Christian Haul wrote: there's a -target release switch to javac. Yes, and this is set to 1.2 (I hope) and afaiu it affects only the byte-code but not the libraries/packages used for

RE: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-25 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
From: Sylvain Wallez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Christian Haul wrote: there's a -target release switch to javac. Yes, and this is set to 1.2 (I hope) and afaiu it affects only the byte-code but not the

[Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-24 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Hi, during my testing of the protected sample I found some interesting aspects of choosing the JDK for compiling/running Cocoon that some of you might not know: Question: If Cocoon compiles with JDK 1.3 and JDK 1.4 without any problems, does this mean that a version compiled with JDK 1.4 also

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-24 Thread Christian Haul
On 24.Jun.2002 -- 01:10 PM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Or did I miss something? there's a -target release switch to javac. Chris. -- C h r i s t i a n H a u l [EMAIL PROTECTED] fingerprint: 99B0 1D9D 7919 644A 4837 7D73 FEF9 6856 335A 9E08

RE: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-24 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Christian Haul wrote: there's a -target release switch to javac. Yes, and this is set to 1.2 (I hope) and afaiu it affects only the byte-code but not the libraries/packages used for compilation. Carsten - To unsubscribe,

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Monday 24 June 2002 13:10, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: . . . So, I learn from this that the JDK used for compilation should be the same used for running Cocoon. If you follow this rule, nothing bad could happen... . . . But if you compile with JDK 1.3, aren't you safe that it will run fine on

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-24 Thread Jeff Turner
On Mon, Jun 24, 2002 at 01:22:33PM +0200, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Christian Haul wrote: there's a -target release switch to javac. Yes, and this is set to 1.2 (I hope) and afaiu it affects only the byte-code but not the libraries/packages used for compilation. Nice work Carsten :)

Re: [Important]: JDK issues

2002-06-24 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Christian Haul wrote: there's a -target release switch to javac. Yes, and this is set to 1.2 (I hope) and afaiu it affects only the byte-code but not the libraries/packages used for compilation. In Ant, there is a 'classic' compilation mode. Did you turn