About the Source vs Generator issue: I found a post by Sylvain [1]. It
does not separate the Source and Generator concepts completely but the
bottom line seems to be
- If you have a format with some natural xml respresentation, it's a
source (Like Excel-MS's Excel-XML?)
- If you have a binary
Sven Kuenzler wrote:
About the Source vs Generator issue: I found a post by Sylvain [1]. It
does not separate the Source and Generator concepts completely but the
bottom line seems to be
- If you have a format with some natural xml respresentation, it's a
source (Like Excel-MS's
Sven Kuenzler wrote:
Good question. ATM, I only could give artificial scenarios.
The real use case I had in mind was the application where I used the
Serializer out of Cocoon. This application produces an Excel sheet
which is sent out by Email. So it is not direct a response but a side
Andrew C. Oliver schrieb:
The real use case I had in mind was the application where I used the
Serializer out of Cocoon. This application produces an Excel sheet
which is sent out by Email. So it is not direct a response but a side
effect to the request. In C2 this is called a sink (or
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Andrew C. Oliver schrieb:
The real use case I had in mind was the application where I used
the
Serializer out of Cocoon. This application produces an Excel sheet
which is sent out by Email. So it is not direct a
Something that just came to me thinking of the dicussion about an
ExcelGenerator: What about implementing it as (Writeable)Source instead?
That way you could use it with SourceWritingTransformer and friends, not
only as pipeline starting point.
Sven
Explain, elaborate.
2 Why would you want to do it at the transformation point?
Sven Kuenzler wrote:
Something that just came to me thinking of the dicussion about an
ExcelGenerator: What about implementing it as (Writeable)Source
instead? That way you could use it with
Hi,
You might check out the POI project (hunt around for the HSSF stuff).
They claim to be working on Generators and Serializers for Cocoon for
all the formats.
http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/index.html
Ryan
Michael Wechner wrote:
Hi
Is there an Excel Generator, which creates from
for Cocoon for
all the formats.
http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/index.html
Ryan
Michael Wechner wrote:
Hi
Is there an Excel Generator, which creates from an Excel (xls) file
some XML? Or what approach would you take to convert existing Excel
documents into some useful XML?
Thanks a lot
hi oliver,
Well we do have some samples, but its been limited at the moment by kind
of a chicken and the egg scenario. The serializer is there, the samples
are there but we can't more because we don't have any usage scenarios
except for mine (translation: lots of people are using POI but
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But the more important part of my answer was What do you want on your
generator, and
what do you wish you had on your serializer
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From: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sorry if it sounds like I'm hounding on this issue, but its very
helpful.
And you find the gnumeric format preferrable to striving
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hi oliver,
Well we do have some samples, but its been limited at the moment by kind
of a chicken and the egg scenario. The serializer is there, the samples
are there but we can't more because we don't have any usage scenarios
except for mine (translation: lots of
Yeah in short: Its a Cocoon Serializer. While I appreciate this
feedback, I personally have no use cases for the Serializer outside of
Cocoon.
??? you don't ;-)
the use case is very simple: create a xls-file out of an gnumeric-file. ;-)
don't see any cocoon stuff here. i guess that would be
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Yeah in short: Its a Cocoon Serializer. While I appreciate this
feedback, I personally have no use cases for the Serializer outside of
Cocoon.
??? you don't ;-)
the use case is very simple: create a xls-file out of an gnumeric-file. ;-)
don't see any cocoon stuff
Nicola Ken Barozzi schrieb:
I would suggest a seperate mailing list for this, perhaps on krysalis
in addition to the commons mailing list, as there is no way in hell
I'm subscribing to the commons mailing list ever again because the
volume is soo great that it would triple my current
From: Michael Wechner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Therefore I thought it would be nice if he is sending me his
Excel and I
generate an XML,
which I can modify , and then I serialize it back into Excel,
such that
he can work on it.
Although I don't like dealing with M$ stuff, a nice
I would suggest a seperate mailing list for this, perhaps on krysalis
in addition to the commons mailing list, as there is no way in hell
I'm subscribing to the commons mailing list ever again because the
volume is soo great that it would triple my current email volume
and probably
Manos Batsis wrote:
From: Michael Wechner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Therefore I thought it would be nice if he is sending me his
Excel and I
generate an XML,
which I can modify , and then I serialize it back into Excel,
such that
he can work on it.
Although I don't
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Although I don't like dealing with M$ stuff, a nice idea is utilizing
the office 2002 XML formats, specifically the one of Excel.
Explain the advantage? This is what I brought up, so far its
unanimous
the other direction. Why would
Sven Kuenzler wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi schrieb:
I would suggest a seperate mailing list for this, perhaps on krysalis
in addition to the commons mailing list, as there is no way in hell
I'm subscribing to the commons mailing list ever again because the
volume is soo great that
Manos Batsis wrote:
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Although I don't like dealing with M$ stuff, a nice idea is utilizing
the office 2002 XML formats, specifically the one of Excel.
Explain the advantage? This is what I brought up, so far its
unanimous
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Hi
Is there an Excel Generator, which creates from an Excel (xls) file
some XML? Or what approach would you take to convert existing Excel
documents into some useful XML
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
but to be honest i dont know any better solution than gnumeric. and
at least
the solution is symetrical gnumeric-excel-gnumeric.
Yup. And XSLT files for easy conversion to the Excel format.
Okay thanks to all. I'm convinced we made the right decision
, it should be
fairly easy to create a generator if one doesn't already exist in
scratchpad.
Geoff Howard
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Hi
Geoff Howard wrote:
I didn't think there was, but the POI site (http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/)
claims that there is, so you may want to check more carefully in scratchpad.
I assume you know about the transformers and serializers for Excel format
using the POI/HSSF work from Apache Jakarta.
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Geoff Howard wrote:
I didn't think there was, but the POI site
(http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/)
claims that there is, so you may want to check more carefully in
scratchpad.
I assume you know about the transformers and serializers for Excel
format
using the
Is there an Excel Generator, which creates *from* an Excel (xls) file
some XML? Or what approach would you take to convert existing Excel
documents into some useful XML?
I think the previous responses missed the *from* (my emphasis) :-)
So, read Andy's answer on the dev list. In short
But the more important part of my answer was What do you want on your
generator, and
what do you wish you had on your serializer -- would you like fries
too? Meaning I need ideas!
I'm on the fence, I want some input.
-Andy
Sven Kuenzler wrote:
Is there an Excel Generator, which
close to where I started if not
exactly where I started.
Does that work for a discussion starter?
Geoff
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But the more
XML format compatibility?
Currently the serializer shares the gnumeric tag language.
-Andy
Geoff
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From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:57 AM
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Subject: Re: Excel generator
But the more important
: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Verzonden: dinsdag 23 juli 2002 19:18
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Onderwerp: Re: Excel generator
Geoff Howard wrote:
Well, I'll make a stab at what I would think could be useful for
a generator
from an excel file. I can think of two
Andy,
1) If you are serializing to some display format (html, pdf,
etc) you'd want
to reproduce the data and formatting as it would appear viewed in, or
printed from excel.
You can of course do an approximation of this in any format via a
stylesheet. Granted it won't look *eactly* the
...
Koen.
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Verzonden: dinsdag 23 juli 2002 19:18
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Marc Johnson
Onderwerp: Re: Excel generator
Geoff Howard wrote:
Well, I'll make a stab at what I would think could be useful
Yes, and it may be good to provide a standard out of the box stylesheet
that does this.
Well we do have some samples, but its been limited at the moment by kind
of a chicken and the egg scenario. The serializer is there, the samples
are there but we can't more because we don't have any
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Is there an Excel Generator, which creates *from* an Excel (xls) file
some XML? Or what approach would you take to convert existing Excel
documents into some useful XML?
I
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I'd also prefer the Gnumeric format. That's because it's open source,
it's used by other oss project(s) and there are people maintaining
documentation for it. So, keeping this format would create some kind of
open source synergy.
Plus, it would not break apps
Roy
www.litrik.com
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Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: Excel generator
Is there an Excel Generator, which creates *from* an Excel (xls) file
some XML
I thought it would be nice if he is sending me his Excel and I
generate an XML,
which I can modify , and then I serialize it back into Excel, such that
he can work on it.
Thanks
Michael
-Andy
Sven Kuenzler wrote:
Is there an Excel Generator, which creates *from* an Excel (xls) file
Hi
Is there an Excel Generator, which creates from an Excel (xls) file
some XML? Or what approach would you take to convert existing Excel
documents into some useful XML?
Thanks a lot
Michael
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