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Hi all, everybody interested in this discussion to go on is invited to join groups.yahoo.com/group/os4u. I will post the summary of past discussion here as soon as I complete it, but I think this list is not appropriate to carry on with this topic. Regards, Peter.

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> >But if you use schema-based storage, you can have your XML > internally > >stored > >into SQL tables. And XPath queries are rewritten (yes yes!) into > >corresponding > >SQL equivalent. > > That's on the feature list, but is it implemented yet? If so, > where? In XSU? Oracle 9iR2 (yes R2 m

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--- Bertrand Delacretaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > On Thursday 15 August 2002 18:41, David Trammell > wrote: > > Couldn't this be discussed somewhere else..., > Please > > Yes, yes, please!! > > Maybe you want to open a discussion group on > yahoogroups for this, or a > discussion page

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Hi, All. >... > * Regression Testing: > JUnit (http://www.junit.org/) > JXUnit (http://jxunit.sourceforge.net/) > JMeter (http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter) >... I haven't seen testing frameworks for web applications mentioned, and maybe it would be good to add these too: Canoo Web Test (htt

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On Thursday 15 August 2002 18:41, David Trammell wrote: > Couldn't this be discussed somewhere else..., Please Yes, yes, please!! Maybe you want to open a discussion group on yahoogroups for this, or a discussion page on www.quicktopic.com. Both are easy and quick. This would help keep thi

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Couldn't this be discussed somewhere else..., Please Vegan Portal wrote: > Hi cocooners, > Now that I have your attention, I would like to > discuss the ideal of non-compromised development of > full-blown, stable, scallable and manageable > applications with open-source only and how far one

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On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Hunsberger, Peter wrote: > I'm slowly starting to see a generalized architecture fall out of the work > we do. It's rather different from what seems to be a main thrust of Cocoon > (XSP), and it may be worth outlining: It is. > This architecture exploits the functional pr

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> > Honestly, I went through stjude.org, nice idea, but if > you'd decipher my nick, I'm quite uncomfortable with > basic research exploiting animals with little or no > actual use at all for all those unfortunate children - > probably dictated by industry-driven NCI and others. I > hope you work

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If it Portgresql supported the CONNECT BY statement I would move to it today. Artur... > -Original Message- > From: Ivelin Ivanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:17 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: sexy open source > > &

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Andreas Hochsteger wrote: > * Version Control System: > CVS (http://www.cvshome.org/) > Subversion (http://subversion.tigris.org/) (!!!) Also: Arch http://www.regexps.com/arch.html (star-merge, distributed projects) Aegis http://aegis.sf.net/ (optional testing integration, distributed) OpenCM

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Why don't forget that you need Jakarta POI to output to Excel or the HSSF Serializer for Cocoon. ;-) -Andy Vegan Portal wrote: >Hi Andreas, > --- Andreas Hochsteger ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > >>* UML Modeling: >> ArgoUML (http://argouml.tigris.org/) >>* Version Control System: >>

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> > Hey, come on, today is offtopic day! See all these messages fly? None > of them are Cocoon related ;-P In that case in response to a previous posted, I'd like to offer this gem: EJBs in factwellthey suck. -Andy

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Hi! On Donnerstag, 15. August 2002 4:53, Vegan Portal wrote: > --- "Emmanuil Batsis (Manos)" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > > Since we are talking about add-on projects, I would > > vote for Wyona CMS > > project; a content management system that sits on > > top of Cocoon. > > http://www.w

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Hi! On Donnerstag, 15. August 2002 4:40, Vegan Portal wrote: > Hi Andreas, > --- Andreas Hochsteger > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > I'll give some short comments to various projects as you suggested below. > > * UML Modeling: > > ArgoUML (http://argouml.tigris.org/) It's a great UML modelli

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My experience also shows that Postgresql is a good database. - Original Message - From: "Antonio Gallardo Rivera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 8:22 AM Subject: Re: sexy open source I recommend you try PostgreSQL

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--- "Emmanuil Batsis (Manos)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > Since we are talking about add-on projects, I would > vote for Wyona CMS > project; a content management system that sits on > top of Cocoon. > http://www.wyona.org Well, there's also DBPrism as an extension to Cocoon but I want to

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Hi Andreas, --- Andreas Hochsteger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > * UML Modeling: > ArgoUML (http://argouml.tigris.org/) > * Version Control System: > CVS (http://www.cvshome.org/) > Subversion (http://subversion.tigris.org/) (!!!) > * IDE: > Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org/) > Netbea

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--- Geoff Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > So far, every time I hear someone talk about using > EJB's and cocoon, the > topic gets bundled with deploying cocoon in the > appserver itself, which pegs > you to one front end machine and causes all of your > display logic (cocoon) > to run on

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--- "Emmanuil Batsis (Manos)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Wow, this thread got a lot of attention. I'm more than happy about it. With my ongoing experience with open source mailing lists, I've awaited little or no response. Perhaps it was just good subject line :) > Unfortunatelly I am home a

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Hello again, Peter, --- "Hunsberger, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > JBoss 3 was still alpha when we started this release > cycle. Jan./Feb. will > be our first chance to consider using it. Fine. I think till that time is 3rd generation of JBoss mature enough to make easy migration possib

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- Original Message - From: "Vegan Portal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:25 PM Subject: Re: sexy open source > --- Johann Romefort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > schrieb: > I am really happy with SAP-DB

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Since we are talking about add-on projects, I would vote for Wyona CMS project; a content management system that sits on top of Cocoon. http://www.wyona.org Andreas Hochsteger wrote: >Hi again! > >I found some more links at home. >So here they are: >* UML Modeling: > ArgoUML (http://argoum

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Peter Lerche wrote: >On Wednesday 14 August 2002 16:44, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: > > >>Antonio Gallardo Rivera wrote: >> >> >>>The same here! ;) >>> >>>El Miércoles, 14 de Agosto de 2002 07:02, Manos Batsis escribió: >>> >>> >From: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >

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Hi again! I found some more links at home. So here they are: * UML Modeling: ArgoUML (http://argouml.tigris.org/) * Version Control System: CVS (http://www.cvshome.org/) Subversion (http://subversion.tigris.org/) (!!!) * IDE: Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org/) Netbeans (http://www.netbea

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--- Johann Romefort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > I am really happy with SAP-DB / Castor for RDBMS > Persistence Sorry Johann, that I forgot to reply you before, but this way is very interesting for sure! AFAIK (without checking it out right now), SAP-DB quite new, but probably very evolved RDBM

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On Wednesday 14 August 2002 16:44, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: > Antonio Gallardo Rivera wrote: > > The same here! ;) > > > > El Miércoles, 14 de Agosto de 2002 07:02, Manos Batsis escribió: > >>>From: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > ... > > >>>8) Web frontend > >>>Proposal: Apache > >>>Rem

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-Original Message- From: ROSSEL Olivier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed 8/14/2002 6:39 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Subject: RE: sexy open source > * XML Editor for Content Editing: > Xopus 2 (http://www.xopus.org/) If we need XML editi

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Score 2, informative ;-) I guess I'll have to get KDE3. Either that or I have no clue about what is going on in my machine (quite possible). Manos -Original Message- From: Hochsteger Andreas /INFO-MA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed 8/14/2002 6:32 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED

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> So far, every time I hear someone talk about using EJB's and cocoon, the > topic gets bundled with deploying cocoon in the appserver itself, which pegs > you to one front end machine and causes all of your display logic (cocoon) > to run on the same disks and cpus as your ejb logic. Is no one u

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Title: RE: sexy open source > -Original Message- > From: Geoff Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:57 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: sexy open source > So far, every time I hear someone talk about us

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-Original Message- From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 1:11 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: sexy open source >> Please, see me as a newbie and give me some code! >> a) Explain if there is really working possib

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Speaking of LDAP, Castor open-source project also provide a nice way to access such directory, by the way of DSML. Johann - Original Message - From: "Emmanuil Batsis (Manos)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 8:39 PM

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Argyn Kuketayev wrote: > > From: Emmanuil Batsis (Manos) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Indeed, my little know-how says it would be stupid to use a > > database for > > information that updates rarelly, such as user authentication data. > > why? if it updates really rarely, you may cach it in y

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Title: RE: sexy open source > -Original Message- > From: Emmanuil Batsis (Manos) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 2:19 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: sexy open source > Indeed, my little know-how says it would be stupid to

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Artur Bialecki wrote: >Was Directory service mentioned ? >If not than http://openldap.org. > Indeed, my little know-how says it would be stupid to use a database for information that updates rarelly, such as user authentication data. Manos

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Was Directory service mentioned ? If not than http://openldap.org. Artur... > -Original Message- > From: Hochsteger Andreas /INFO-MA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:32 AM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: AW: sexy open source > > > I don't know, if you

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> From:Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Hi Manos, Finally, someone that says hi to people. Wow, this thread got a lot of attention. Unfortunatelly I am home and I won't go over those messages via a web based interface (that's the only way to view them from home). I chast subscr

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>From: Argyn Kuketayev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Another drawback is that the Java API provided by Oracle is > > for 1.2, thus > > lacking regular expression support. > >not an issue, ORO is no worse than Jdk 1.4's regexps You're probably right, as I haven't tried ORO. But personally, I'd prefer

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> a) Did you ever try to migrate to JBoss 3x? JBoss 3 was still alpha when we started this release cycle. Jan./Feb. will be our first chance to consider using it. > b) Do you have to write the proxies for every EJB > manually or is there automatized solution? We manually write the code. 90% of

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>From: ROSSEL Olivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >But if you use schema-based storage, you can have your XML internally >stored >into SQL tables. And XPath queries are rewritten (yes yes!) into >corresponding >SQL equivalent. That's on the feature list, but is it implemented yet? If so, where? In XSU?

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--- Argyn Kuketayev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > Please, see me as a newbie and give me some code! > > a) Explain if there is really working possibility > to > > have J2EE datasource in cocoon's web.xml alone so > one > > could access it directly or is it bad idea as > such? > > if you deplo

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Title: RE: sexy open source > Please, see me as a newbie and give me some code! > a) Explain if there is really working possibility to > have J2EE datasource in cocoon's web.xml alone so one > could access it directly or is it bad idea as such? if you deploy cocoo

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--- "Hunsberger, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > I don't care for JBoss that much but would like to > > have J2EE for business logic scalability. My BIG > > question is - HOW DO YOU ACCESS EJBs FROM COCOON? > > Please, give us your secrets! > > Didn't I just answer this? Nothing special

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Thank you, Peter, for this: --- "Hunsberger, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > We do not use J2EE as Cocoon datasources directly. > Our application logic is > invoked as Cocoon generators, Cocoon actions and in > some cases as XSLT > extensions. All of our code, in theory, could be > por

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--- Argyn Kuketayev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:35 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: sexy open source > &

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> I don't care for JBoss that much but would like to > have J2EE for business logic scalability. My BIG > question is - HOW DO YOU ACCESS EJBs FROM COCOON? > Please, give us your secrets! Didn't I just answer this? Nothing special is required: define your EJB's to jBoss as normal. Deploy the EJB

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>> Java 1.4 works fine with C 2.0.3 >OK, I will give it a try right now. What about C2.1 >(just that little satan inside me)? Sorry, haven't tried it... > Do you use J2EE as datasource in > Cocoon to cooperate with JBoss regarding business > logic? Please, please, elaborate on it! We do not u

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Hi Artur, --- Artur Bialecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > All I'm saying is that logicsheets which are used > during > generation of server pages are not the best palce to > call J2EE business logic. EJBs can throw many > exceptions > and by the time you get to generation all you can > do

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> * XML Editor for Content Editing: > Xopus 2 (http://www.xopus.org/) Did they released the beta version of Xopus2 yet? - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting.

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Title: RE: sexy open source > -Original Message- > From: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:35 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: sexy open source   > My BIG > question is - HOW DO YOU ACCESS EJBs FROM COCOON?

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Title: RE: sexy open source > -Original Message- > From: I-Lin Kuo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:28 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: sexy open source > Another drawback is that the Java API provided by Oracle i

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Hi folks, I don't care for JBoss that much but would like to have J2EE for business logic scalability. My BIG question is - HOW DO YOU ACCESS EJBs FROM COCOON? Please, give us your secrets! Thanks, Peter. --- "Hunsberger, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > I always deploy EJBs "manually". j

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--- Antonio Gallardo Rivera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Vegan: > > Can you publish at the end of this survey the > results? Sure, I'm eager to do it ASAP. > I am newbie too. I am currently ending the last > course of a serie of 3 > tutorials about Cocoon in the IBM website. ;) You mean the

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> To add to this. > > Oracle 9i now has a native XMLType which is really a CLOB. > However, it > doesn't have the normal limitations of a CLOB -- you can use > XPATH for > selection and for indexing, a great improvement in my > opinion. However, a > drawback remains in that you are still un

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racle is catching up to Xindice but still a ways back, in my opinion. >From: ROSSEL Olivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: sexy open source >Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:10:03 +0200 > > > >I am currently studying XML DB features of Oracle 9iR2. > > >It is quite

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--- "Hunsberger, Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > >> > 2) Programming language > Java 1.4 works fine with C 2.0.3 OK, I will give it a try right now. What about C2.1 (just that little satan inside me)? > >> > 5) Web container > >> > Proposal: Jetty as JBoss service > >> More people are fam

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2 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: sexy open source > I always deploy EJBs "manually". jBoss is easier to write deployment descriptors, yes. otherwise there's not much difference.  Why on earth would you do manual deploys?  ANT is sexy! 

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> >I am currently studying XML DB features of Oracle 9iR2. > >It is quite impressive. > >Very very advanced stuff !!! > > > How it compares to Tamino and Xindice? What are the cool > features (in a > nutshell ;)? I dunno Tamino. I hope I will have the time to test Xindice. Oracle 9iR2 has a XM

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-Original Message- From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:05 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: sexy open source > -Original Message- > From: Artur Bialecki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, Au

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: BTW? what's the price of Oracle? :-) > > >-Message d'origine- >De: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Date: mercredi 14 août 2002 15:05 >À: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' >Objet: RE: sexy open source > > > >RDBMS must be Oracle. no other op

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> >>>8) Web frontend > >>>Proposal: Apache > >>>Remarks: This is only for security reasons - the task > >>>of Apache is just to forward the requests. I think > >>>more of you are using it, true? > >> > >>Not needed. > > > > Not needed > > Can somebody explain how to run Tomcat on port 80 under u

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--- Manos Batsis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > From: Argyn Kuketayev > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > business doesn't care about opennes as > > much as about performance and features. > > The first thing business cares about is not profit > or performance; it's > survival. To survive

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Antonio Gallardo Rivera wrote: > The same here! ;) > > El Miércoles, 14 de Agosto de 2002 07:02, Manos Batsis escribió: > >>>From: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ... >>>8) Web frontend >>>Proposal: Apache >>>Remarks: This is only for security reasons - the task >>>of Apache is just to

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Title: Message > I always deploy EJBs "manually". jBoss is easier to write deployment descriptors, yes. otherwise there's not much difference.  Why on earth would you do manual deploys?  ANT is sexy!  We do a ANT build that automatically deploys a new EAR through jBoss.  In 90 seconds I ca

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Vegan: Can you publish at the end of this survey the results? I think many people here want to know about that. ;) I am newbie too. I am currently ending the last course of a serie of 3 tutorials about Cocoon in the IBM website. ;) And I need to end a new application using Cocoon for Sept. 1.

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>> > 2) Programming language >> > Proposal: pure Java 1.3.1x >> 1.4 is better IMHO. >Well, it should be, but I've seen several people here >reporting problems already with Cocoon alone, not to >mention other components. Maybe these are minor and >because many people are on it, 1.4 is really way to

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esday, August 14, 2002 10:14 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: sexy open source One could certainly argue that DB2 is as sexy or sexier than Oracle; the fact that Oracle 8 lacks true outer join makes it down right ugly if you ask me... In any case, my real reason fo

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Hi Antonio, --- Antonio Gallardo Rivera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > The same here! ;) > I also use jEdit (http://www.jEdit.org)a nice open > source editor. I use it to > edit XML. I'm downloading it right now to test it out. Thank you, Antonio. Peter. PS: If this thread goes to some nice res

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to do a manual EJB deploy using something other than JBoss is likely to agree... -Original Message-From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 8:11 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: sexy open source subj was "sexy op

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Hi Manos, --- Manos Batsis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > 2) Programming language > > Proposal: pure Java 1.3.1x > 1.4 is better IMHO. Well, it should be, but I've seen several people here reporting problems already with Cocoon alone, not to mention other components. Maybe these are minor an

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Title: RE: sexy open source > -Original Message- > From: Artur Bialecki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:02 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: sexy open source > Cocoon right now (2.0.3) has no good way to handle > err

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> -Original Message- > From: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > 7) Content Framework > Proposal: Cocoon, what else :) > Remarks: The task of Cocoon is to separate Logic from > Design, what it should be good at. I want to get more > detailed here: Starting with structured XSP,

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Hey this look nice! Is this opensource? El Miércoles, 14 de Agosto de 2002 07:43, Johann Romefort escribió: > > 8) Web frontend > > Proposal: Apache > > Remarks: This is only for security reasons - the task > > of Apache is just to forward the requests. I think > > more of you are using it, true?

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> 8) Web frontend > Proposal: Apache > Remarks: This is only for security reasons - the task > of Apache is just to forward the requests. I think > more of you are using it, true? > 9) Suporting Tools > XML editor: ??? (I use several or write the XML from > scratch) > XSL editor: ??? (Did not fin

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I am really happy with SAP-DB / Castor for RDBMS Persistence Johann - Original Message - From: "Antonio Gallardo Rivera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:22 PM Subject: Re: sexy open source I recommend you try Pos

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exy, comparing to IIS indeed. > > business doesn't care about opennes as much as about performance and > features. > > Cocoon is sexy too, btw > jBoss is not. > > -Original Message- > From: Manos Batsis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 200

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o :-) > > PS: BTW? what's the price of Oracle? :-) > > > -Message d'origine- > De: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Date: mercredi 14 août 2002 15:05 > À: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Objet: RE: sexy open source > > > >

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From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > business doesn't care about opennes as > much as about performance and features. The first thing business cares about is not profit or performance; it's survival. To survive in today's business environment, one needs to find a balance betwee

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El Miércoles, 14 de Agosto de 2002 07:05, Argyn Kuketayev escribió: > RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho. > cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to the cost of one DBA. > while at the same time performance and other features of Oracle are far > better than anything. > > > 4)

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The same here! ;) El Miércoles, 14 de Agosto de 2002 07:02, Manos Batsis escribió: > > From: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > 2) Programming language > > Proposal: pure Java 1.3.1x > > Remarks: I know many of you are trying 1.4 out, but it > > may still take some time to be able to

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d features.   Cocoon is sexy too, btw jBoss is not. -Original Message-From: Manos Batsis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:09 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: sexy open source Argyn,   Err... the subject says "open source"

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day, August 14, 2002 4:05 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: sexy open source RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho. cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to the cost of one DBA. while at the same time performance and other features of Oracle are far

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ût 2002 15:05 À: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Objet: RE: sexy open source RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho. cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to the cost of one DBA. while at the same time performance and other features of Oracle are far better than anything. &

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Title: RE: sexy open source RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho. cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to the cost of one DBA. while at the same time performance and other features of Oracle are far better than anything. > 4) Business Logic Persistence &g

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> From: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > 2) Programming language > Proposal: pure Java 1.3.1x > Remarks: I know many of you are trying 1.4 out, but it > may still take some time to be able to be used for > production sites. Moreover, many open source > technologies were still not port