On 11/28/12 10:02 PM, Mark A. Matienzo wrote:
Some discussion (both on-list and otherwise) has referred to coders,
and some discussion as such has raised the question whether
non-coders are welcome at code4lib.
What's a coder? I'm not trying to be difficult - I want to make
code4lib as
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.eduwrote:
A coder is someone who writes code, naturally. :) code is something
intended to be interpreted or executed by a computer or a computer program.
I think everyone agrees that anyone is welcome at code4lib.
I agree
Thought process of a coder:
1- I need to open a file in my program
2- ok, I'll import IO into my application and read the definition
3- i create methods and functions around the definition and open my file
Total time to deliver code: 5 mins
Thought process of a non-coder
1- I need to open a file
I anticipate coding--particularly for the web--to be part and parcel of
librarianship as a whole - and if that's not already the case, then in a few
short years. I already expect many of my coworkers to be HTML/CSS literate
just as everyone has been expected to be familiar with an Office Suite.
The mission statement on the code4lib website says The Code4Lib Journal
exists to foster community and share information among those interested
I want to clarify that the Code4Lib Journal is a specific project with a
specific list of people on it's editorial board. In this way, it's unlike
Dude, I'm positive I'm a coder because I spend a whole lot of time coding, and
I think I do it pretty decently -- and search in Google is a key part of my
workflow! So is debugging. Hopefully
copy-and-paste-coding-without-knowing-what-i'm-doing is not, however, true.
But no need to be
Then why make the distinction at all? I always thought Code4lib was
about communication between people who make code and those who use it,
recognizing that these are by no means disjoint groups.
I was recently a developer in a place that systematically discouraged
communication between developers
The way I see code4lib is a place to discuss all things 'codey'. This would
include all those that create AND use code in all forms it comes in.
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Beaufort County Library
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On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote:
Dude, I'm positive I'm a coder because I spend a whole lot of time coding,
and I think I do it pretty decently -- and search in Google is a key part
of my workflow! So is debugging. Hopefully
I think my tweet yesterday may have been partially responsible for raising this
question in Mark's mind. I wrote: Debating registering for c4l since I'll be
getting -- at most -- 50% reimbursement for costs , well, I'm not a coder.
Thoughts? When I wrote this, I was using coder in the sense
The statement on the actual code4lib website (not the Journal's website) can
be found here:
http://code4lib.org/about
I have no idea how old that statement is, or how often it's been changed -- it
looks like it's got some stuff added to it at least as a result of recent
discussion? But at
Hey folks, I wonder if the listserv is the best place to hash all of
this stuff out? Is it the right technology for these kinds of
philosophical discussions? After all, on reddit a +1 and -1
actually does something, and you can be anonymous if you want. I was
surprised to find no code4lib
The focus of this community is, and should be, technical. But lots of
people contribute to the code that gets written even if they don't write
code. Librarians, archivists, catalogers, curators, etc., provide coders
with real world problems that need to be solved. People who actually talk
to users
I think that _everyone_ who finds our topics and discussions interesting and
useful is welcome at the conference, on the listserv, in IRC, etc.
However, at the same time, I will confess that I personally find the
proliferation of archival/repository topics at the conference dissapointing. I
Hi All,
Please excuse any cross-postings but our call for papers for JCDL 2013 is now
open. This year is very different as we are holding it in Indianapolis with
joint sponsorship by the IU Libraries and the UIUC Graduate School of Library
and Information Science.
I hope you will consider
On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Mark Pernotto mark.perno...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote:
Dude, I'm positive I'm a coder because I spend a whole lot of time coding,
and I think I do it pretty decently -- and search in Google is a key
Perhaps we just need to use a different word. Yes, it's code4lib but we
don't necessarily need to use coders to describe ourselves. What I find most
important about the community and its conference is that we talk about what we
do at extremely deep and detailed levels... like urtext or source
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Friscia, Michael
michael.fris...@yale.edu wrote:
Thought process of a coder:
1- I need to open a file in my program
2- ok, I'll import IO into my application and read the definition
3- i create methods and functions around the definition and open my file
Total
So, since we're all coders / code-enthusiasts / friends of code and we can
resist continuing *that* thread (you know which one), I'd love to know if
any of you-colleagues! neat people!-are on CodePen (www.codepen.io). My
profile there leaves much to be desired, but I'd love to see what you people
On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote:
Here, here! But I do really try to figure out what the code does
before implementing/deploying.
I just cut, paste, and deploy.
The users will tell me if I got it right.
Seriously, that is my way of coding too. In
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On 11/29/2012 at 7:52 AM, Andromeda Yelton andromeda.yel...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wed,
I've been following along on this and finally got my thoughts together to chime
in.
In my career I've done DBA duties, sys admin tasks, scripting, requirements
gathering, documentation writing, standards wrangling, policy setting, and more
digitization than you can shake a stick at. And I've
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Bess Sadler bess.sad...@gmail.com wrote:
On Nov 28, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Shaun Ellis sha...@princeton.edu wrote:
In that respect, I would suggest the preconference hackfests/workshops
that involve some kind of pair programming with experienced/inexperienced
Long-time lurker here. Just chiming in to say that I think the idea of
mentorship is great.
Currently, I'm in a position (content editor for a database aggregator)
somewhat outside my education and previous experience, and one that
unfortunately, does not offer any opportunities for the kind of
Dear Code4Lib-ers (and apologies for a semi-crosspost to Web4Lib):
## Request:
I'm trying to get a global view of library event systems—a part of library
technology I've never really looked at. I wonder if anyone here could give
me a leg up?
* Who are the top competitors?
* Are they local- or
On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Eric Lease Morgan emor...@nd.edu wrote:
On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:36 AM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote:
I just cut, paste, and deploy.
The users will tell me if I got it right.
Seriously, that is my way of coding too.
Wait...what?
So I *am* a
I would disagree that sysadmin/network admin types are considered less
geeky, it's just that coders and sysadmins speak completely different
languages, tend not to trust each other, and are generally working against
one another (since they have different goals).
Trying to figure this stuff
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On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Christie Peterson cpeter...@jhu.edu wrote:
If this were training in the sense of a seminar or a formal class on the
exact same topics, I would be eligible for full funding, but since it's a
conference, it's funded at a significantly lower level. I'll gladly take
Dear Janice (and anyone else in a similar boat),
You might also consider joining DevChix (http://www.devchix.com). There are
many other women there in similar situations, who are supporting each others'
learning. It's an additional option to finding a code4lib mentor.
Bess
On Nov 29, 2012, at
As a chronic persister (defined: one who persists even when not
encouraged: thanks to Arianna for pointing to: Unlocking the Clubhouse
http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/47054696) I'm going to persist with this
thread even though it hasn't gotten picked up in the discussion.
(Although it has gotten
Outreach Program for Women internships are available with a number of Free
and Open Source Software organizations from January 2 through April 2, 2013:
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The challenges around getting women into male-dominated professions is a little
different from the challenges of getting men into women-dominated professions.
For one thing, professions that are female-dominated are notoriously low-paying
and low-status (think K-12 teachers, nursing, social
Hi Code4Lib,
First post here but I've been following the mailing list for a while and
the Journal and planet.code4lib longer. I just posted a write-up (updating
one previously posted to libraryhacker.org) about using WebConverger to
create OPAC kiosks. I'm hoping to 1) share it with anyone who
Salvete!
Outreach Program for Women internships are available with a number of Free
and Open Source Software organizations from January 2 through April 2, 2013:
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The deadline for that is like NAO so don't delay.
Cheers,
Brooke
Hi Joshua -
Interesting work! I took on a tangential project to implement thin-client
opacs using linux/gnome sessions a few years ago with pretty good success
so it is nice to see some new work here.
Other than an internal report that says that the project was mostly
successful I do not have
**Please excuse cross postings**
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Obviously, we need to offer trainings on how to get funding to attend
conferences. The should be collocated with the conferences.
Cary
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Bess Sadler bess.sad...@gmail.com wrote:
On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Christie Peterson cpeter...@jhu.edu wrote:
If this
Hm. This all has been a long and really interesting conversation...but I
gotta ask if men really outweigh women in the higher paying library jobs
as much as they do in banks and K-12? I guess it depends on the definition
of tech vs. non-tech jobs in the library setting, which I'll leave to
that
Looks great, I completed a similar project a little over a year ago that
has been working out very well, much better than the XP install that was
replaced.
I started at the same libraryhacker post as you but ended up putting
together a solution using stock debian with the opera web browser in
On 11/29/2012 4:19 PM, Chris Fitzpatrick wrote:
departments in kinda interesting ways. There now seems to be things like
Metadata or Systems groups that are distinct from Digital Repository
or Applications groups. Catalogers and the people who work on the ILS are
often completely segregated
The University of Chicago Library invites applicants for
the Digital Collections Librarian.
Reporting to the Associate University Librarian for Digital Services, the
Digital Collections Librarian leads the Library's collection-building
activities for locally-created digital materials.
But grants are sometimes the only source of travel funds. Maybe that's
helped cause the shift you mention.
On 11/29/12 4:43 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote:
I miss that. Code4Lib was in fact the only place I knew of for people
working on traditional library use cases, not on
ALA does salary surveys every year. This is from the ALA-APA toolkit [1]:
Pay inequity also exists within librarianship. The Association of
Research Libraries, in its Annual Salary Survey
2005-6, reported that the average salary for male academic librarians in
member libraries was $63,984,
On 11/29/2012, at 4:43 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote:
Code4Lib didn't used to, when I attended the second code4lib conf, the vast
majority of the presentations and presenters were NOT about grant-funded work
or digital repository work, and the majority of people I met at
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On 29 November 2012, Cary Gordon wrote:
Obviously, we need to offer trainings on how to get funding to attend
conferences. The should be collocated with the conferences.
This is a good idea; this should be a BOF or something---how to hack your
system to get funding---maybe report back with a
Hello,
I'm almost done developing my custom theme for when I migrate our Greenstone
digital collections over to Omeka. I've built in a mobile interface for when a
mobile device is detected and have been having a lot of fun implementing that
with jQuery Mobile.
I prefer to make most stuff
This looks more syntactical than anything else.
Try:
$('input').textinput({mini:true});
This hasn't been tested.
Thanks,
Mark
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Gavin Spomer spom...@cwu.edu wrote:
Hello,
I'm almost done developing my custom theme for when I migrate our Greenstone
digital
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:13 AM, Christie Peterson cpeter...@jhu.eduwrote:
If this were training in the sense of a seminar or a formal class on the
exact same topics, I would be eligible for full funding, but since it's a
conference, it's funded at a significantly lower level. I'll gladly take
Is the data-mini attribute really not getting set? Or is it being set but
the jQuery Mobile framework isn't applying its mini style? Inspect the
input elements with your dev tools to see if data-mini is set.
Without seeing your code, my guess is that it runs after the mobile-init
event where
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Eric is right, the data-mini attribute is getting set. Looks like you
also need to add the ui-mini class too...
$('input').addClass('ui-mini');
You can see it in action here, compared with a normal sized text input
(have to use id selectors to just change one input for the demo):
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