To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie
Ruby may be sexy but sexy ruby on rails gets only four hits. As
for sexy python, well, no comment.
T
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Andrew Hankinson
andrew.hankin...@gmail.com wrote:
Just out of curiosity I tried them in quotes:
sexy
sexy groovy - 43,200
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Andrew Hankinson
andrew.hankin...@gmail.com wrote:
Just out of curiosity I tried them in quotes:
sexy ruby - 72,200
sexy python - 37,900
sexy php - 25,100
sexy java - 16,100
sexy asp - 14,800
sexy perl - 8,080
sexy C++ - 177
sexy
sexy code4lib - 0 (with quotes); 2,380 (without quotes)
Thanks,
Becky
sexy librarian - 73,700... sexy coder - 1,950...
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Ross Singer rossfsin...@gmail.com wrote:
sexy groovy - 43,200
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Andrew Hankinson
...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of
Tim Spalding
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:21 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie
Ruby may be sexy but sexy ruby on rails gets only four hits. As
for sexy python, well, no comment.
T
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Andrew Hankinson
To offer a counterpoint to no PHP folks, One reason I like PHP is because
right now its pretty much essential to know if you are using open source web
applications like MediaWiki, Wordpress or Drupal. I feel like Javascript is
also a must for web work.
Agreed. I actually hated both PHP and
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:24 PM, jenny jennynotanyd...@gmail.com wrote:
My question is, where would you recommend I would begin? What's hot
right now in the library world? Python, PERL, Ruby? Any advice you'd
have for a beginner like me or even recommendations for online courses
would be
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:51:38 -0400, Mark Tomko mark.to...@simmons.edu
wrote:
I wouldn't recommend PHP to learn as a programming language, if your
goal is to have a general purpose programming language at your
disposal. PHP is a fine language for building dynamic web pages, but it
won't
If you don't have access to Safari or books 24x7 through other means
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On 3/25/2010 10:24, Brian Stamper wrote:
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:51:38 -0400, Mark Tomko mark.to...@simmons.edu
wrote:
I wouldn't recommend PHP to learn as a programming language, if your
goal is to have a general purpose programming language at your
disposal. PHP is a fine language for
On 3/24/2010 17:43, Joe Hourcle wrote:
I know there's a lot of stuff written in it, but *please* don't
recommend PHP to beginners.
Yes, you can get a lot of stuff done with it, but I've had way too many
incidents where newbie coders didn't check their inputs, and we've had
to clean up after
As someone who uses PHP to do the small things I would recommend using
Python or another language. I am trying to transition away from PHP to
Python as it is not a panacea. PHP's great for web scripting but was never
intended to do all of the duct taped projects that I have put together with
it.
You should /join #code4lib. Only there will you learn the secret one
true path to wisdom.
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Matthew Bachtell
matthewbacht...@gmail.com wrote:
As someone who uses PHP to do the small things I would recommend using
Python or another language. I am trying to
He means JavaScript. ;)
Honestly, though, PHP and all it's fault not withstanding, I highly
recommend starting with a C syntax-based language such as JavaScript,
PHP, Java, or even C# (and obviously C and C++). Get some basic
programming concepts understood, and then pursue the language the
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, Yitzchak Schaffer wrote:
On 3/24/2010 17:43, Joe Hourcle wrote:
I know there's a lot of stuff written in it, but *please* don't
recommend PHP to beginners.
Yes, you can get a lot of stuff done with it, but I've had way too many
incidents where newbie coders didn't check
On 3/24/2010 4:47 PM, Kyle Banerjee wrote:
Just so I can use some of my favorite technical jargon, you need to find a
reference implementation. That's a fancy way of saying, find the simplest
example you can. Then just copy and tweak the code until you grok
it. There's an infinite amount to
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Aaron Rubinstein
arubi...@library.umass.edu wrote:
This is some of the best advice. Reading and adapting good code has been my
favorite way to learn. There was a discussion a couple years back on a
code4lib code repository of some kind[1]. I'd love to
Newbie programmers (and established ones still looking to improve)
might be interested in this blog article that I wrote a few days ago
about some of the best programmers I've had the privilege of working
with:
On 3/25/2010 12:47 PM, Ross Singer wrote:
I disagreed with this back in the day, and I still disagree with
running our own code repository. There are too many good code hosting
solutions out there for this to be justifiable. We used to run an SVN
repo at code4lib.org, but we never bothered
[arubi...@library.umass.edu]
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:21 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie
On 3/25/2010 12:47 PM, Ross Singer wrote:
I disagreed with this back in the day, and I still disagree with
running our own code repository. There are too many good code
Agreed -- I coded up many nice SQL injection vulnerabilities before I ever
learned PHP. As for Perl, anyone remember the notorious formmail.cgi from
Matt's Script Archive?
For **web** programming specifically, it's critically important for newbies to
get a grounding in security issues,
Speaking of Regular Expression, O'Reilly Media has an ebook deal of
the day for the Regular Expression Cookbook ($9.99, use code DDREC)
[1]
OK. I don't know if it's OK to post the info like above, but they
advertise that on their Facebook page [2] and I can't resist sharing
the saving.
ranti.
Finally, I never would have put the strings PHP and sexiness in a
sentence together (though I guess I just did).
A simple Google search shows how very wrong you are:
sexy php - 56,100,000 results
sexy asp - 8,380,000
sexy java - 6,360,000
sexy ruby - 2,840,000
sexy perl - 532,000
sexy C++ -
Just out of curiosity I tried them in quotes:
sexy ruby - 72,200
sexy python - 37,900
sexy php - 25,100
sexy java - 16,100
sexy asp - 14,800
sexy perl - 8,080
sexy C++ - 177
sexy FORTRAN - 67
sexy COBOL - 8
I tried sexy lisp but the results were skewed by speech impediment fetishes.
Which I'd
Ruby may be sexy but sexy ruby on rails gets only four hits. As
for sexy python, well, no comment.
T
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Andrew Hankinson
andrew.hankin...@gmail.com wrote:
Just out of curiosity I tried them in quotes:
sexy ruby - 72,200
sexy python - 37,900
sexy php - 25,100
Jenny,
I discovered (i think through a code4libber) the other day a great
series of videos on learning python. It was put out by Google as part
of a series they do for their employees.
http://code.google.com/edu/languages/
I myself don't know Python (i wish i did), but that section of the
page
On Mar 24, 2010, at 3:24 PM, jenny wrote:
My question is, where would you recommend I would begin? What's hot
right now in the library world? Python, PERL, Ruby? Any advice you'd
have for a beginner like me or even recommendations for online courses
would be extremely appreciated
If you are
A newly-minted library school grad who has up to this point focused my
studies on Rare Books and Book Arts, I've been interested in getting
back into some programming--I took two classes in college
(VisualBASIC), have a smattering of web design and php, MySQL,
exposure, but I'd like to try
On 3/24/2010 at 4:08 PM, emor...@nd.edu wrote:
[snip]
Just as important as the actual language may be the programming techniques
you will have to learn. Now-a-day knowing how to read and write XML is almost
imperative. Knowing how to do I/O against a database is all but necessary.
I agree with the responses that suggest you look at the problems you want to
solve and then decide which language, and more importantly which _community_
surrounding a language, is most in tune with solving those problems.
If you are not sure what you want to solve, but just looking for ways to
Just as important as the actual language may be the programming
techniques
you will have to learn. Now-a-day knowing how to read and write XML is
almost
imperative. Knowing how to do I/O against a database is all but
necessary.
Understanding how to send URL's to remote resources and
Not to start any flame wars, I'll have to agree with Rosalyn on Python. My
favorite, one reason is the syntax requires readablity, for instance,
indention is part of the syntax. And, I am running Zope/Plone servers (since
1992) which are written in C and python, and python scripting
Kyle Banerjee wrote:
[snip]
Pick something that you need for a specific project. You already know how
to program, so picking up a language for its own sake will mostly be an
academic exercise for you.
[snip]
My advice would be to work on a project and if it calls for a language that
you
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Eric Lease Morgan wrote:
On Mar 24, 2010, at 3:24 PM, jenny wrote:
My question is, where would you recommend I would begin? What's hot
right now in the library world? Python, PERL, Ruby? Any advice you'd
have for a beginner like me or even recommendations for online
I wouldn't recommend PHP to learn as a programming language, if your goal is to
have a general purpose programming language at your disposal. PHP is a fine
language for building dynamic web pages, but it won't help you to slice and
dice a big text file or process a bunch of XML or do some
I've been focusing on XSL and XQuery, but Python's on my list to do
although I want to do a turn in Perl first, very versatile.
Just a javascript background.
regards,
dana
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:24 PM, jenny jennynotanyd...@gmail.com wrote:
A newly-minted library school grad who has up to
of looking into Lua, myself.
Devon
-Original Message-
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of
Joe Hourcle
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 5:44 PM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] newbie
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010, Eric Lease Morgan wrote
PHP. I have to agree with others - don't bother with PHP.
Largest website in Perl: Del.icio.us
Largest website in PHP: Facebook
Tim
A friend of mine once described PHP as 'brain-dead PERL', but I like and use
both languages quite a bit.
David.
On 24 March 2010 23:17, Tim Spalding t...@librarything.com wrote:
PHP. I have to agree with others - don't bother with PHP.
Largest website in Perl: Del.icio.us
Largest website
On 3/24/2010 7:43 PM, David Kane wrote:
A friend of mine once described PHP as 'brain-dead PERL', but I like and use
both languages quite a bit.
David.
On 24 March 2010 23:17, Tim Spaldingt...@librarything.com wrote:
PHP. I have to agree with others - don't bother with PHP.
Largest
On 24-Mar-10, at 8:21 PM, Paul Cummins wrote:
On 3/24/2010 7:43 PM, David Kane wrote:
A friend of mine once described PHP as 'brain-dead PERL', but I
like and use
both languages quite a bit.
David.
On 24 March 2010 23:17, Tim Spaldingt...@librarything.com wrote:
PHP. I have to agree
On Mar 24, 2010, at 7:17 PM, Tim t...@librarything.com wrote:
Largest website in Perl: Del.icio.us
Largest website in PHP: Facebook
You're assuming the only use for a programming language is to
dynamically serve up a web site. That would be a serious mistake.
Roy
To offer a counterpoint to no PHP folks, One reason I like PHP is because
right now its pretty much essential to know if you are using open source web
applications like MediaWiki, Wordpress or Drupal. I feel like Javascript is
also a must for web work. Personally, I'm also a fan of XSLT to do
, 2009 5:02 PM
To: Hamparian,Don
Subject: FW: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with
javascript
I think I have to say yes to this, although it isn't going to make us
look
great.
Roy
-- Forwarded Message
From: Annette Bailey afbai...@vt.edu
Reply-To: Code for Libraries
Thanks for the suggestions and links, everyone.
I'll check them out and see what will work for me.
--
Derik A. Badman
Digital Services Librarian
Reference Librarian for Education and Social Work
Temple University Libraries
Paley Library 209
Philadelphia, PA
Phone: 215-204-5250
Email:
. Xiaoming?
-Original Message-
From: Tennant,Roy
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:02 PM
To: Hamparian,Don
Subject: FW: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with
javascript
I think I have to say yes to this, although it isn't going to make us
look
great.
Roy
:
You can also purchase. I thought it was 500 usages a day. Xiaoming?
-Original Message-
From: Tennant,Roy
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:02 PM
To: Hamparian,Don
Subject: FW: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with
javascript
I think I have to say yes
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Roy Tennant tenna...@oclc.org wrote:
It is worth following up on Xiaoming's statement of a limit of 100 uses per
day of the xISSN service with the information that exceptions to this
limite
are certainly granted. Annette probably knows that just such an
for Libraries on behalf of Godmar Back
Sent: Fri 12-6-2009 5:55
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Newbie asking for some suggestions with javascript
Yes - see this email
http://serials.infomotions.com/code4lib/archive/2009/200905/0909.html
If you can host yourself, the stand-alone
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Derik Badmandbad...@temple.edu wrote:
Hello all,
I'm not sure the way I'm checking isbns against the text file is the most
efficient way to go. Basically I'm making an ajax call to the file that
takes the data and makes an array of objects. I then query the
Hi Derik,
This looks good... I suppose the question to some of your questions is
what's in your toolbox?
Specifically:
- Are you running on windows or unix on the server?
- Are you able to install anything on the server - are you an admin or
similar?
- Are you able to run a scripting language
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Jon Gorman jonathan.gor...@gmail.comwrote:
I guess the first question is if it is really necessary to use a text
file? I'm not entirely clear on this process, but perhaps the text
file could be imported into a database.
At this point the text file is a
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Tom Pasley tom.pas...@gmail.com wrote:
- Are you running on windows or unix on the server?
-Are you able to install anything on the server - are you an admin or
similar?
- Are you able to run a scripting language like PHP on the server?
- Do you have
This data (the Tic-Tocs RSS URLs) is also available via xISSN. For example:
http://xissn.worldcat.org/webservices/xid/issn/1095-9203?method=getMetadata
format=xmlfl=*
Look for the rssurl attribute. For information on xISSN see:
http://xissn.worldcat.org/xissnadmin/
Roy
On 6/11/09 6/11/09
Roy,
Just to clarify, you have to be an OCLC cataloging member to use this
beyond 100 uses per day, correct?
Thanks,
Annette
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Roy Tennanttenna...@oclc.org wrote:
This data (the Tic-Tocs RSS URLs) is also available via xISSN. For example:
Yes - see this email
http://serials.infomotions.com/code4lib/archive/2009/200905/0909.html
If you can host yourself, the stand-alone version is efficient and easy to
keep up to date - just run a cronjob that downloads the text file from JISC.
My WSGI script will automatically pick up if it has
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