Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat as an OpenURL endpoint ?

2010-06-16 Thread Tom Keays
We have been trying to enumerate serials holdings as explicitly as possible. E.G., this microfiche supplement to a journal, http://summit.syr.edu/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?BBID=274291 shows apparently missing issues. However, there are two pieces of inferred information here: 1) every print issue had

Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat as an OpenURL endpoint ?

2010-06-16 Thread Rosalyn Metz
Don't forget inconsistent data from the person sending the OpenURL. Rosalyn On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Bill Dueber b...@dueber.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Kyle Banerjee baner...@uoregon.edu wrote: No, but parsing holding statements for something that just gets cut off

Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat as an OpenURL endpoint ?

2010-06-16 Thread Robertson, Wendy C
1015 Main Library  .  Iowa City, Iowa 52242 wendy-robert...@uiowa.edu 319-335-5821 -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Dueber Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:57 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat

Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat as an OpenURL endpoint ?

2010-06-15 Thread Tom Keays
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: The trick here is that traditional library metadata practices make it _very hard_ to tell if a _specific volume/issue_ is held by a given library. And those are the most common use cases for OpenURL. Yep. That's true

Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat as an OpenURL endpoint ?

2010-06-15 Thread Walker, David
://xerxes.calstate.edu From: Code for Libraries [code4...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Keays [tomke...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:43 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat as an OpenURL endpoint ? On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:47 PM

Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat as an OpenURL endpoint ?

2010-06-15 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat as an OpenURL endpoint ? On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: The trick here is that traditional library metadata practices make it _very hard_ to tell if a _specific volume/issue_ is held by a given library. And those

Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat as an OpenURL endpoint ?

2010-06-15 Thread Kyle Banerjee
The trick here is that traditional library metadata practices make it _very hard_ to tell if a _specific volume/issue_ is held by a given library. And those are the most common use cases for OpenURL. Yep. That's true even for individual library's with link resolvers. OCLC is not

Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat as an OpenURL endpoint ?

2010-06-15 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
When I've tried to do this, it's been much harder than your story, I'm afraid. My library data is very inconsistent in the way it expresses it's holdings. Even _without_ missing items, the holdings are expressed in human-readable narrative form which is very difficult to parse reliably.

Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat as an OpenURL endpoint ?

2010-06-15 Thread Markus Fischer
Kyle Banerjee schrieb: This might not be as bad as people think. The normal argument is that holdings are in free text and there's no way staff will ever have enough time to record volume level holdings. However, significant chunks of the problem can be addressed using relatively simple methods.

Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat as an OpenURL endpoint ?

2010-06-15 Thread Tom Keays
...@listserv.nd.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Keays [tomke...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:43 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat as an OpenURL endpoint ? On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.edu wrote: The trick here is that traditional

Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat as an OpenURL endpoint ?

2010-06-15 Thread Tom Keays
I do provide the user with the proxied WorldCat URL for just the reasons Jonathan cites. But, no, being an otherwise open web resource, you can't force a user to use it. On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Jonathan Rochkind rochk...@jhu.eduwrote: I haven't yet found any good way to do this if

Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat as an OpenURL endpoint ?

2010-06-15 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
I'm not sure what you mean by complete holdings? The library holds the entire run of the journal from the first issue printed to the last/current? Or just holdings that dont' include missing statements? Perhaps other institutions have more easily parseable holdings data (or even holdings data

Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat as an OpenURL endpoint ?

2010-06-15 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Oh you really do mean complete like complete publication run? Very few of our journal holdings are complete in that sense, they are definitely in the minority. We start getting something after issue 1, or stop getting it before the last issue. Or stop and then start again. Is this really

Re: [CODE4LIB] WorldCat as an OpenURL endpoint ?

2010-06-15 Thread Kyle Banerjee
Oh you really do mean complete like complete publication run? Very few of our journal holdings are complete in that sense, they are definitely in the minority. We start getting something after issue 1, or stop getting it before the last issue. Or stop and then start again. Is this really