Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2012-01-11 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
On 1/11/2012 11:31 AM, Jim Safley wrote: I happen to know that Amanda French, THATCamp Coordinator, is interested in talking with the code4lib coordinators about the distributed conference model. Ah, but if you haven't figured it out yet, there pretty much are no such thing as 'code4lib coor

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2012-01-11 Thread Jim Safley
I like the idea of a code4lib conference franchise similar to THATCamp: http://thatcamp.org/. I happen to know that Amanda French, THATCamp Coordinator, is interested in talking with the code4lib coordinators about the distributed conference model. Her expertise on the subject would be enlightening

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2012-01-09 Thread Peter Noerr
One possibility for this is the InDiCo conference management system produced by CERN which was used for the 2005 ELAG meeting. It has been used by hundreds of other conferences and workshops since then. It is open source and written in Python. So it could be adapted/extended to specific C4L need

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2012-01-03 Thread Peter Murray
On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:24 PM, Kevin S. Clarke wrote: > On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:08 PM, David Friggens wrote: >> Shifting times would be good. The registration opened at 5am here, >> though I probably would have gotten up for it had I known it was going >> to go so quickly. (Did you have to pay when

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2012-01-03 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:08 PM, David Friggens wrote: > Shifting times would be good. The registration opened at 5am here, > though I probably would have gotten up for it had I known it was going > to go so quickly. (Did you have to pay when you registered? If so, I > don't think I could have con

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2012-01-03 Thread David Friggens
(This discussion happened a couple of weeks ago during the summer break here, but I figured it was still worth adding my couple of cents.) > > so, from Monday to Thursday, each day at noon > > Eastern, 50 registration slots open. > > I think this is a fantastic idea -- especially if you shift arou

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2012-01-03 Thread Kyle Banerjee
> The price of admission to that event is a > > talk proposal, and while perhaps obviously, not everyone speaks, it > > does set a boundary. > > > > It might be tough to find folks to serve as gatekeepers, but maybe we > > should at least require a "why you should let me go to Code4Lib" > > stateme

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-29 Thread Daniel Lovins
That's a really interesting idea. I wonder how realistic/challenging it will be for the community to review (and triage) the consequent flood of proposals though. - Daniel On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Kyle Banerjee wrote: > My understanding is that the > price of admission will be a proposa

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-29 Thread Kyle Banerjee
If our bandwidth issues on campus get resolved, we'd offer our site, too. > Our Valley Center for Performing Arts has a smaller theater on the lower > level that could work. Exploratory site visits welcome. > I may be alone on this, but I don't see low bandwidth as a dealbuster. Sharing ideas and

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Peter Noerr
+1 Peter Noerr MuseGlobal > -Original Message- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Karen > Schneider > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:11 AM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to regist

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Jason Griffey
Seriously, gang...as soon as we get this new library built, I'm all-in for C4L-Chattanooga. I'll provide the venue, just wait until Fall 2013. Jason On Dec 22, 2011, at 1:38 PM, "Kevin S. Clarke" wrote: > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Reese, Terry > wrote: >> Sounds like Ross just volunte

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread BWS Johnson
Salvete! > I disagree about the random registration concept. As long as the time > is announced in advance (which was done this year) people should plan > accordingly. You didn't need to register the first minute this year. I > registered an hour after registration opened and while I was initiall

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Karen Schneider
> > Also, is there any interest in a San Francisco Bay Area Code For Libraries > Regional Affiliate (code4lib-sfbay for short)? > +1 If our bandwidth issues on campus get resolved, we'd offer our site, too. Our Valley Center for Performing Arts has a smaller theater on the lower level that could

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Daniel Lovins
Actually, my sense from last year's meeting, with significant contingents from Europe and Japan, is that code4lib has become an international conference. On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Michael J. Giarlo wrote: > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 13:16, Ross Singer wrote: >> >> This fits in well with s

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread BRIAN TINGLE
On Dec 22, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Karen Schneider wrote: > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Chris Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> +1 for Terry's idea of limiting the number of participants each >> institution can send. I don't know what this number would be, but I think >> it would help increase diversity, s

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 13:16, Ross Singer wrote: > > This fits in well with something I was thinking about earlier.  To me, > the best way to "solve" the problem is to simply have more > conferences.  I, personally, would like to do with away with the > "regional" "brand" and just call everything

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Kevin S. Clarke
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Reese, Terry wrote: > Sounds like Ross just volunteered to start a C4L Chattanooga...everyone meet > up at Ross's house.  :) Woot! Getting in the car now... Kevin

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread John Kirriemuir
On 22 Dec 2011, at 18:20, Reese, Terry wrote: This way, there is no 'main' event. There are just events. Deep. *Nods, enlightened.* John Kirriemuir Agent Librarian http://www.wordshore.com/

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Reese, Terry
D.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Shaun Ellis wrote: > I agree that the discussion should focus on ways of adapting the > conference to serve the expanding community without losing the good > qualities that come from ke

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Ross Singer
n, some do not, and each person is >> responsible only to himself for doing it "in time." >> >> This is from a person who is coming for the first time following two >> failed attempts to attend in previous years. >> My humble opinion only. >> Michael North >&g

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Karen Schneider
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Chris Fitzpatrick wrote: > +1 for Terry's idea of limiting the number of participants each > institution can send. I don't know what this number would be, but I think > it would help increase diversity, since it might get more people working in > smaller organizati

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Chris Fitzpatrick
* > > > > -Original Message----- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Brett > Bonfield > Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 7:27 AM > To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limit

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Karen Schneider
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Edward M. Corrado wrote: > I could have done what > others did and purposely avoided scheduling meetings around that time > and rescheduled the one that was but I didn't. Yes, I have bazillions > of other things to do and the registration time wasn't convenient f

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Shaun Ellis
following two failed attempts to attend in previous years. My humble opinion only. Michael North -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Reese, Terry Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:46 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Michael North
-Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Reese, Terry Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 9:46 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations I find it hard not to laugh a little bit at this ong

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Reese, Terry
es 121 Valley Library Corvallis, OR 97331 tel: 541.737.6384 *** -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Brett Bonfield Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 7:27 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious ans

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
Seems a reasonable suggestion to me. The tricky bit will be how to decide who's contributed substantially as a volunteer. Or maybe I'm overthinking it. Otherwise, I like the blend of first-come-first-served, guaranteed slots for folks who put in the time, and a lottery system for those who don't

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Brett Bonfield
Seems like a hybrid system might make sense. Reserve spots for presenters and scholarship winners, and decide on both before registration opens. I'm sure it's difficult to coordinate voting for presenters, and I know from having volunteered on the scholarship committee that it would be difficult t

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-22 Thread Edward M. Corrado
I disagree about the random registration concept. As long as the time is announced in advance (which was done this year) people should plan accordingly. You didn't need to register the first minute this year. I registered an hour after registration opened and while I was initially on the waiting li

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-21 Thread Karen Schneider
I was really hoping that our Associate Director for Library Technology could attend Code4Lib. She did her best, but didn't make it. She was then pushed hard, early on, to drop her hotel room, which she did not do (good for her) though I'm guessing she has by now. We're a 5-person library and it's a

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-21 Thread Fleming, Declan
t's an annoying waste of IRC window real estate ;) D -Original Message- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Nordstrom, Kurt Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 9:46 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registr

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-21 Thread Jay Luker
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations > > Hiya - ya know what the cheapest, most inclusive part of code4lib is?  The > IRC channel.  I know it's old school, and one more thing to learn, but drop > in and toss an idea around.  I've found it very rewarding. > > D

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-20 Thread Nordstrom, Kurt
U] on behalf of Fleming, Declan [dflem...@ucsd.edu] Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:34 AM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations Hiya - ya know what the cheapest, most inclusive part of code4lib is? The IRC channel. I know it's old s

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-20 Thread Fleming, Declan
o:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael J. Giarlo Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 8:33 PM To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 22:58, Cary Gordon wrote: > > BTW, some of my best friends and role models are

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-19 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 22:58, Cary Gordon wrote: > > BTW, some of my best friends and role models are "scary strangers." > Why can't we make it through a single thread without mention of Roy Tennant? Just goes to show, guy's a pioneer of our industry*. -Mike * code4lib newbies: this is a joke

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-19 Thread Cary Gordon
I don't know that folks would need to "what Code4Lib is about" in the sense that they know what Code4Lib has been about or used to be about. They very well might dream up an "about" that is more about us than we have ever been. BTW, some of my best friends and role models are "scary strangers." O

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-19 Thread Genny Engel
You realize, of course, that the only possible response to this is to propose that OCLC host a new spinoff unconference to handle the overflow: BaCon. Genny Engel Sonoma County Library gen...@sonoma.lib.ca.us 707 545-0831 x581 www.sonomalibrary.org -Original Message- I'd love if we ha

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-19 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 14:05, Kaplan, Deborah wrote: > > The tricky part for the old guard to do is how do you manage preserving as > much of the original vibe as you can while not putting up a wall that keeps > out scary strangers. It's hard work, but not impossible. People have proposed > lo

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-19 Thread Kaplan, Deborah
Roy Tennant wrote: > I'm not saying we need to limit the conference > to 80 seats or so, but I think we should at least mark the passing of > this concept with some regret. The more C4L becomes like every other > conference the less it is the kind of unique event it was created to > be. There is

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-19 Thread Kaplan, Deborah
David Fiander wrote: > > so, from Monday to Thursday, each day at noon > Eastern, 50 registration slots open. I think this is a fantastic idea -- especially if you shift around the timeslot so that it is beneficial to people in different time zones. E.g. newly Eastern Monday, noon Central Tues

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-19 Thread Chris Fitzpatrick
Easy solution : dance off. Everyone puts a youtube video up and the community votes on who has the best moves. The top 250 get a ticket. You're welcome. On Dec 19, 2011, at 10:31 AM, Ross Singer wrote: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: >> My honest opinion is that we s

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-19 Thread Ross Singer
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Cary Gordon wrote: > My honest opinion is that we should get closer to this model. I think > that even 250 is larger than optimum. > > For a couple years, I ran DrupalCon, which in five years grew from > just over 30 folks to a North American event with about 3,000

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-19 Thread Cary Gordon
My honest opinion is that we should get closer to this model. I think that even 250 is larger than optimum. For a couple years, I ran DrupalCon, which in five years grew from just over 30 folks to a North American event with about 3,000 and a European event with almost 1,800. Originally, DrupalCon

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-19 Thread Nate Vack
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Roy Tennant wrote: > One of the founding concepts of the conference had been "no > spectators". That is, everyone has an opportunity to participate and > is encouraged to do so. I'm not saying we need to limit the conference > to 80 seats or so, but I think we sho

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-19 Thread Roy Tennant
One of the founding concepts of the conference had been "no spectators". That is, everyone has an opportunity to participate and is encouraged to do so. I'm not saying we need to limit the conference to 80 seats or so, but I think we should at least mark the passing of this concept with some regret

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-19 Thread Ross Singer
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Edward M. Corrado wrote: > I would be against making C4L any bigger. There are already bigger > conferences one can attend to. Not only because it will lose the feel, > but it will become more expensive, limit locations, and harder to > host. One thing to keep in

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-19 Thread David Fiander
Another alternative would be to do what Science Online does: open registration in tranches. So, from Monday to Thursday, each day at noon Eastern, 50 registration slots open. - David On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:05, Edward M. Corrado wrote: > I would be against making C4L any bigger. There are alr

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-19 Thread Edward M. Corrado
I would be against making C4L any bigger. There are already bigger conferences one can attend to. Not only because it will lose the feel, but it will become more expensive, limit locations, and harder to host. Being involved with a conference that attracts 500+ people, I can tell yo that it is a lo

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-19 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
FWIW, I'd like to see a hosting proposal one of these years that suggests tweaking the formula, either by opening it up the way folks have mentioned in this thread or by completely blowing up the format (unconference + hackfest kind of thing). That's the only way I see this changing. Btw, now's th

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-19 Thread BWS Johnson
Salvete!     Not sure the bigger is worse dictum holds. Do Code4Libbers suddenly get trolly when you have more of them about? Sure, a larger conference is a different experience, but I wonder if what the organisational toll is for not honouring folks' frustration in being left out in the cold.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-19 Thread Jon Gorman
> I had planned to come to code4lib and knew it filled up fast. I joined the > mailing list so I could find out about the > registration as soon as it > happened. It came out in mid-morning and I happened to be in a meeting until > 12 or > so and by the time I tried to register it was sold out.

Re: [CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-19 Thread Thomas Dowling
On 12/19/2011 09:47 AM, Elfstrand, Stephen F wrote: > I had planned to come to code4lib and knew it filled up fast. I joined the > mailing list so I could find out about the registration as soon as it > happened. It came out in mid-morning and I happened to be in a meeting until > 12 or so and b

[CODE4LIB] Obvious answer to registration limitations

2011-12-19 Thread Elfstrand, Stephen F
I had planned to come to code4lib and knew it filled up fast. I joined the mailing list so I could find out about the registration as soon as it happened. It came out in mid-morning and I happened to be in a meeting until 12 or so and by the time I tried to register it was sold out. This is anno