Re: [CODE4LIB] Buy, Borrow, or Build

2010-05-10 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
Yup. Buy, build, and borrow are pretty good categories. But sometimes you _think_ you're buying, but you really end up borrowing or even building. Other times, you can know and plan on "borrowing" or "building" even when you buy a proprietary vendor product. And as Ed mentions, another very

[CODE4LIB] OCLC Service Outage Update

2010-05-10 Thread Roy Tennant
Since this topic came up on the list yesterday, here is an official update. Roy Service outage update On Sunday, May 9, the primary OCLC data center in Dublin lost power during required internal facilities maintenance activity. OCLC staff worked diligently to restore services as quickly as possi

Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Service Outage Update

2010-05-10 Thread Simon Spero
At least it wasn't a "totally transparent" UPS test scheduled for the Thursday of Thanksgiving weekend. My personal philosophy is that every rack should have its own UPS separate from the data center one, with enough capacity to keep going through blips,and handle a clean shutdown if necessary.

Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Service Outage Update

2010-05-10 Thread Casey Bisson
Or be like Google, give up on UPSs, and just attached a battery to the DC side of each server's power supply. http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2009/04/the-beast-unveiled-inside-a-google-server.ars On May 10, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Simon Spero wrote: > At least it wasn't a "totally transparent"

Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Service Outage Update

2010-05-10 Thread Jonathan Rochkind
I _believe_ that the OCLC FirstSearch shibboleth server is still down, for anyone who tries to send their users to FirstSearch via Shibboleth. Simon Spero wrote: At least it wasn't a "totally transparent" UPS test scheduled for the Thursday of Thanksgiving weekend. My personal philosophy is

Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Service Outage Update

2010-05-10 Thread Simon Spero
The unix hackers at the Technion did that to the Vaxen 11/7XXes; didn't trust the walk-in UPS, because the mainframe and Vax 9000 would drain it to the dregs. Couldn't do the same thing for the Sun 4/XXX because no source license. Up hill, both ways, in the sand. Simon On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 4

Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Service Outage Update

2010-05-10 Thread Simon Spero
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: > I _believe_ that the OCLC FirstSearch shibboleth server is still down, for > anyone who tries to send their users to FirstSearch via Shibboleth > Are you sure you're saying it right? Simon

Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Service Outage Update

2010-05-10 Thread stuart yeates
Simon Spero wrote: Of course, the real problem is that too many people are writing unoptimized code in energy-inefficient languages like ruby and PHP, which require far more servers, and far more cooling, to do the same work as properly written code. No, the real problem is with trolls sendi

Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Service Outage Update

2010-05-10 Thread Alexander Johannesen
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 06:59, stuart yeates wrote: > No, the real problem is with trolls sending flamebait. Friggin' AMEEN! Alex -- Project Wrangler, SOA, Information Alchemist, UX, RESTafarian, Topic Maps --- http://shelter.nu/blog/ --

Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Service Outage Update

2010-05-10 Thread Andrew Hankinson
Writing code in "energy efficient" languages is the funniest thing I've heard in a while. It ranks up there with setting my desktop wallpaper to black because "it uses less energy." More servers are required because more people are writing webapps because Ruby and PHP make it easier for mor

Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Service Outage Update

2010-05-10 Thread Michael J. Giarlo
... people took Simon's comment seriously? C'mon, failsters. Stop making it so easy. -Mike On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 18:49, Andrew Hankinson wrote: > Writing code in "energy efficient" languages is the funniest thing I've > heard in a while. It ranks up there with setting my desktop wallpaper

Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Service Outage Update

2010-05-10 Thread Alexander Johannesen
Michael J. Giarlo wrote: > ... people took Simon's comment seriously? Language is a funny thing ; some times the things that are being said is taken seriously. And the script-haters are spread far and wide, so there was no reason not to take him seriously. Should the default be not to take anyone

Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Service Outage Update

2010-05-10 Thread Kyle Banerjee
> Is there even a C webapp framework available? C is for wussy. Real hombres only need assembly.

Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Service Outage Update

2010-05-10 Thread Lynne Lysiak
ahem, y mujeres sir!! - Original Message - From: Kyle Banerjee Date: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:18 pm Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Service Outage Update To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU > > Is there even a C webapp framework available? > > > C is for wussy. Real hombres only need assembly. >

Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Service Outage Update

2010-05-10 Thread Kyle Banerjee
That had occurred to me. However, they tend not to participate in p*ssing contests (i.e. they're less inclined to do dumb things than guys) so they weren't listed. But this is a big tent where all are welcome :) On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Lynne Lysiak wrote: > ahem, y mujeres sir!! > > --

Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Service Outage Update

2010-05-10 Thread Chris Cormack
On 11 May 2010 14:19, Kyle Banerjee wrote: > That had occurred to me. However, they tend not to participate in p*ssing > contests (i.e. they're less inclined to do dumb things than guys) so they > weren't listed. Oh wow, want a shovel to help dig you out of the gross generalisations hole? Chris

Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Service Outage Update

2010-05-10 Thread Kyle Banerjee
> > > Oh wow, want a shovel to help dig you out of the gross generalisations > hole? > > Nah -- I'm totally secure in my idiocy. If I really step in it, I'll get loads of hate mail. If I'm really unlucky and it takes on a life of it's own, I may even be forced to issue a groveling public apology.

[CODE4LIB] Code4Lib North: lots of fun

2010-05-10 Thread William Denton
About 40 of us were in Kingston, ON last Friday for Code4Lib North. It was a great day! I had a really good time and I hope everyone else did too. Thursday there were about twenty people hanging out in the afternoon, and most went off for dinner and some ended up at the Sleepless Goat for d

Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Service Outage Update

2010-05-10 Thread Sean Hannan
After poking around, it seems that there is: Wt (http://www.webtoolkit.eu/wt). After looking through the source of the Hello World example[1], I'm not sure why anyone would go through the trouble, but then again, I feel that way about a lot of lower-level compiled languages. -Sean [1] http://

Re: [CODE4LIB] OCLC Service Outage Update

2010-05-10 Thread stuart yeates
Kyle Banerjee wrote: Is there even a C webapp framework available? C is for wussy. Real hombres only need assembly. ...and assembly is for people who can't face a row of toggle switches, which are in turn a crutch for people who can't handle a single toggle switch and an input button, wh