for that MARC record, and the OCLC record identifier.
Brad W.
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Fleming, Declan
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Hi
be considered
a smallish email attachment.)
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I
,
Diane Hillman, Ed Summers, Bradley Westbrook.
Gabriela
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I looked into this a little more closely, and it turns out it's a
little more complicated than I remembered. We built support
attachment.)
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I looked into this a little more closely
I think the strength of adopting RDF is that it doesn't tie us to a single
vocab/schema. That isn't to say it isn't desirable for us to establish common
approaches, but that we need to think slightly differently about how this is
done - more application profiles than 'one true schema'.
This is
This is a *very* tangential rant, but it makes me mental when I hear
people say the 'disk space' is no longer an issue. While it's true that
the costs of disk drives continue to drop, my experience is that the cost
of managing storage and backups is rising almost exponentially as
libraries
Well said Will,
Mark
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This is a *very* tangential rant, but it makes me mental when I hear
people say the 'disk space' is no longer an issue. While it's true
that
the costs of disk drives continue to drop, my experience is that the
cost
of managing storage and
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Well said Will,
Mark
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This is a *very* tangential rant, but it makes me mental when I hear
people say the 'disk space' is no longer an issue. While it's true
that the costs of disk drives continue to drop, my
[mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Owen
Stephens
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I'd suggest that rather than shove it in a triple it might be better to point
at alternative representations, including
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Quoting Fleming, Declan dflem...@ucsd.edu:
Hi - I'll note that the mapping
On Dec 6, 2011, at 5:52 PM, Montoya, Gabriela wrote:
...
I'd much rather see resources invested in data synching than spending it in
saving text dumps that will most likely not be referred to again.
...
In a MARC-as-the-record-of-record scenario; storing the original raw MARC might
be
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 20:52, Montoya, Gabriela gamont...@ucsd.edu wrote:
One critical thing to consider with MARC records (or any metadata, for that
matter) is that it they are not stagnant, so what is the value of storing
entire record strings into one triple if we know that metadata is
On 07/12/11 14:52, Montoya, Gabriela wrote:
Dream Team for Building a MARC RDF Model: Karen Coyle, Alistair Miles, Diane
Hillman, Ed Summers, Bradley Westbrook.
As much as I have nothing against anyone on this list, isn't it a little
US-centric? Didn't we make that mistake before?
cheers
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 1:49 PM, stuart yeates stuart.yea...@vuw.ac.nz wrote:
As much as I have nothing against anyone on this list, isn't it a little
US-centric? Didn't we make that mistake before?
I wouldn't worry. A dream-team have no basis in reality, hence the
dream part. I'd like to see a
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Alexander Johannesen
alexander.johanne...@gmail.com wrote:
A dream-team have no basis in reality, hence the dream part.
Tell that to the 1992 U.S. Men's Olympic Basketball Team.
Mark
A dream-team have no basis in reality, hence the dream part.
Tell that to the 1992 U.S. Men's Olympic Basketball Team.
So, the response to my suggestion of an unhelpful US bias is a US-based
metaphor?
I'll just consider my point proved.
cheers
stuart
I mean, have you *seen* Drexler dunk?
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A dream-team have no basis in reality, hence the dream part.
Tell
Owen mentioned the Talis (now Capita Libraries) model. If you'd like
more info on that, our tech lead put his slides from the Linked Data
in Libraries event online at:
http://www.slideshare.net/philjohn/linked-library-data-in-the-wild-8593328
They cover some of the work we've done, approaches
Thanks, Matt. The RDF here uses BIBO and DC, and is therefore
definitely lossy. I'm not saying that's a bad thing -- loss from MARC
may well be the only way to save library metadata. What I would be
interested in learning is how one decides WHAT to lose. Im also
curious to know if any
On 12/5/2011 1:40 PM, Karen Coyle wrote:
This brings up another point that I haven't fully grokked yet: the use
of MARC kept library data consistent across the many thousands of
libraries that had MARC-based systems.
Well, only somewhat consistent, but, yeah.
What happens if we move to
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On 12/5/2011 1:40 PM, Karen Coyle wrote:
This brings up another point that I haven't fully grokked yet: the use
of MARC kept library data consistent across the many thousands of
libraries that had MARC-based systems
: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:22 AM
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I looked into this a little more closely, and it turns out it's a little more
complicated than I remembered. We built support for transforming to MODS using
the MODS21slim2MODS.xsl stylesheet
Esme, let me second Owen's enthusiasm for more detail if you can
supply it. I think we also need to start putting these efforts along a
loss continuum - MODS is already lossy vis-a-vis MARC, and my guess
is that some of the other MARC-RDF transforms don't include all of
the warts and
Owen-
Another strategy for capturing MARC data in RDF is to convert it to MODS (we do
this using the LoC MARC to MODS stylesheet:
http://www.loc.gov/standards/marcxml/xslt/MARC21slim2MODS.xsl). From there,
it's pretty easy to incorporate into RDF. There are some issues to be aware
of, such
Hi Esme - thanks for this. Do you have any documentation on which predicates
you've used and MODS-RDF transformation?
Owen
On 2 Dec 2011, at 16:07, Esme Cowles escow...@ucsd.edu wrote:
Owen-
Another strategy for capturing MARC data in RDF is to convert it to MODS (we
do this using the
Oh - and perhaps just/more importantly - how do you create URIs for you data
and how do you reconcile against other sources?
Owen
On 2 Dec 2011, at 16:07, Esme Cowles escow...@ucsd.edu wrote:
Owen-
Another strategy for capturing MARC data in RDF is to convert it to MODS (we
do this using
Owen-
We assign ARKs[1] to our objects (and predicates for that matter). The issue
of reconciling against other sources hasn't come as much, since we have mostly
focused on our unique objects. But we have worked on that issue some. For
example, several years ago, I worked on the UCAI
It would be great to start collecting transforms together - just a quick brain
dump of some I'm aware of
MARC21 transformations
Cambridge University Library - http://data.lib.cam.ac.uk - transformation made
available (in code) from same site
Open University - http://data.open.ac.uk - specific
You may know about this one already, but the BL exposed the British
National Bibliography as RDF last summer. The project has a page[1] with
a good amount of info--the data model[2] might be a good place to start.
-Jon
1. http://www.bl.uk/bibliographic/datafree.html
2.
Mike, that's what I suspected is going on. It might be good to mine
those efforts, contrast and compare. Maybe not the details, but the
general models.
kc
Quoting Mike Taylor m...@indexdata.com:
I was at a one-day conference hosted by the British Library a few
months ago, on the use of
Wow. Thank you, Owen! As a way not to lose these, I have done a crude
page on the futurelib wiki with the contents of your mail, and promise
to clean it up at some not too distant date:
http://futurelib.pbworks.com/w/page/48408645/MARC%20in%20RDF
When/if I get the time, I will try to dig
I was at a one-day conference hosted by the British Library a few
months ago, on the use of Linked Data in libraries. There were about
50 people there in total. It became apparent that between us we
represented AT LAST ten separate projects (or parts of bigger project)
for converting MARC data
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