RE: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003

2003-07-11 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Stefano Mazzocchi applauded: on 7/10/03 4:21 PM Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: clip/ So an apache-wide newsletter would be great. And posting it to apache wide announce, or even xposting it to all announce mailing list - sure. I'd love that. Having it on the web is nice for archival too -

Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003

2003-07-11 Thread Rob Oxspring
- Original Message - From: Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 7/10/03 4:21 PM Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: So an apache-wide newsletter would be great. And posting it to apache wide announce, or even xposting it to all announce mailing list - sure. I'd love that. Having it on

acronym-list?

2003-07-11 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
I want the acronym-list, acronym often used in Apache.Org, to be put on wikipage, committers module or somewhere appropriate. e.g. --- * AFAIK As Far As I Know * ASAP As Soon As Possible * BTW By The Way * FAQ Frequently

Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003

2003-07-11 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:24:23 +0100 Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One point I would like to make though, and not wanting to detract from this fantastic issue (thanks Tetsuya!), is that keeping the up the momentum has proved difficult at times over the last year and that not every

RE: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003

2003-07-11 Thread Noel J. Bergman
you can't know who are the new committers without taking snapshots of /etc/passwd or /home/cvs/CVSROOT/avail AFAICS, committer uids in /etc/passwd started at a particular value, and monotonically increment for each new user, so couldn't he use that as an indicator? --- Noel

Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003

2003-07-11 Thread Rob Oxspring
- Original Message - From: Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stefano Mazzocchi applauded: on 7/10/03 4:21 PM Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: I think we should have an apache-wide newsletter and deliver it thru announce@apache.org once a month. +1 except for the frequency, which I

Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003

2003-07-11 Thread David N. Welton
Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If I understand correctly, you are unwilling to receive one Jakarta-related email per month, on say, announce@apache.org mailing list. Is that the mailing list being considered? With more than 15 projects, each one of which would presumably have the right

Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003

2003-07-11 Thread David Reid
I don't think community@ is a valid place for news of a newsletter anyway. Perhaps announce@ for those who are interested. david - Original Message - From: Thom May [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@apache.org Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 10:55 AM Subject: Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 --

Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003

2003-07-11 Thread Thom May
* David N. Welton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : Ceki G?lc? [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sending a Java related email on announce@apache.org may breach the possibly implicit contract between the list and its subscribers. However, that seems more like a moral question rather than a technical

RE: acronym-list?

2003-07-11 Thread Danny Angus
IMO there are enough acronym finders on the web already, I can't see any need to have one here too. Most acronyms used in english conversational prose are correctly identified in listings like this, including the bizzare ROTFLMAO. I use www.acronymfinder.com, and FYI this is what it says about NIH

RE: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003

2003-07-11 Thread Danny Angus
David Reid wrote: I don't think community@ is a valid place for news of a newsletter anyway. Perhaps announce@ for those who are interested. I agree, cross posting sucks in general and annoucements and the jakarta newsletter are verging on OT for community@ as well. I'd think that if there is

RE: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003

2003-07-11 Thread Noel J. Bergman
I don't think community@ is a valid place for news of a newsletter anyway. Perhaps announce@ for those who are interested. the jakarta newsletter are verging on OT for community@ as well. Perhaps, but it seems to me that this discussion has been about taking the Jakarta Newsletter and

RE: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003

2003-07-11 Thread Danny Angus
Noel, However, in the interests of compromise between those who want just a summary with link and those who want the full content, perhaps it would be best to post a summary e-mail, Don't you think annouce@ is the place for that? If you're worried that subscribers to community@ won't be

Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003

2003-07-11 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:07:12 +0100 (Subject: Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003) Thom May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why the obsession with email? We have a (pretty good ;-) ) webserver. Why don't we have a web page? www.apache.org/news/monthly or something.

Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

2003-07-11 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
on 7/11/03 6:07 AM Thom May wrote: Why the obsession with email? push vs. pull example: we are having this conversation and the information I'm sending its pushed into your mailbox. I could post this information on a weblog and then point you to it, but, in my experience, the chance that you

Re: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

2003-07-11 Thread Tom Copeland
On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 11:33, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: on 7/11/03 6:07 AM Thom May wrote: This is what I would like to see: 1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including infrastructure,

Re: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

2003-07-11 Thread Jeff Trawick
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: This is what I would like to see: 1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the non-so-project stuff. 2) the

Re: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

2003-07-11 Thread Erik Abele
On 11/07/2003, at 05:33, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: 1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the non-so-project stuff. 2) the newsletter is

Re: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

2003-07-11 Thread Thom May
* Stefano Mazzocchi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : This is what I would like to see: 1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the

RE: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003

2003-07-11 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Danny, As I said to you in the broader context, I wasn't saying that community@ is the right place; just that I think it is hard to call it off-topic if it covers the whole community. Actually, announce@ was one of the places I'd suggested in an earlier message. announce@ has almost no traffic,

Re: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]

2003-07-11 Thread Santiago Gala
Jeff Trawick escribió: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: This is what I would like to see: 1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the

RE: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003

2003-07-11 Thread Danny Angus
Noel, Personally, I agree with those who feel that the text should be available via e-mail, and considering the roughly 1 message per month traffic on announce@, it is hard to argue that it is too much volume. Agreed, I like the jakarta newsletter a lot. But with the obvious caveat that an

RE: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003

2003-07-11 Thread Noel J. Bergman
But with the obvious caveat that an ASF wide newsletter might become quite big if people write major dissertations, I'd rather see nice concise precis of recent activity, and links to more detail text where relevant, I'm more likely to read it all that way. Let's see what happens. :-) And