Hello.
While thinking of antythieft protection we came to some ideas about
sending smses with stolen phone GPS coords. There were some ideas about
silent voice calls with message that the phone is stolen.
(for details see thread Itch3: Anti-lost/theft protection).
But at this point we came to
2007/3/1, Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
THAT IS THE PROBLEM. Bigger than phone theft. That's why commercial phone
manufacturers don't allow to access all the phone for java apps. To disallow
hidden calls and smses.
IMHO this is not main reason why commercial
Hi Openmoko List!
I have been following the progress of openmoko and I really love how
things are going. As far as I can tell now, I will order the Neo as soon
as it is available.
Here are some ideas that I would really love to see in openmoko:
== Real-time switching of audio sources and sinks
Dear Community,
For those of you who couldn't make it FOSDEM or Etel, I've posted our
presentation here:
http://www.openmoko.com/files/OpenMoko_Neologics.pdf
Happy reading!
-Sean
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Sean Moss-Pultz schrieb:
Dear Community,
For those of you who couldn't make it FOSDEM or Etel, I've posted our
presentation here:
http://www.openmoko.com/files/OpenMoko_Neologics.pdf
Happy reading!
-Sean
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2007/3/1, Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
THAT IS THE PROBLEM. Bigger than phone theft. That's why commercial
phone
manufacturers don't allow to access all the phone for java apps. To
disallow
hidden calls and smses.
We have
similiar
I added the price breakdown from the presentation to the Wiki:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_much.3F
-Steven
On 2/27/07, Igor Foox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/26/07, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ole Tange wrote:
I had hoped there was video coverage of the event. When I
Steven ** wrote:
I added the price breakdown from the presentation to the Wiki:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_much.3F
I uploaded to rapidshare http://rapidshare.com/files/18781887/rect.avi
which is a better encoding of the video - 66M, but with most of the
larger text visible.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/My_Account is an overview of some ideas.
Briefly, a way for anyone with the phone to access a history of the
phone (bought/sold status, reported as stolen, ...), a way for the user
to set these as well as contact information for people to return the
phone in some
On 3/1/07, Krzysztof Kajkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However there might be such attempts to create GSM trojans
and we should be aware to enable user to protect itself. The question
is how to do that?
What do you think?
First off all I think that there are good chances for a trojan, even
On Thursday 01 March 2007 13:52:16 Ian Stirling wrote:
Briefly, a way for anyone with the phone to access a history of the
phone (bought/sold status, reported as stolen, ...), a way for the user
to set these as well as contact information for people to return the
phone in some way.
Thoughts?
Attila Csipa wrote:
Only if the thief actually sets up SMS (if his SIM is of a different
provider,
the service center likely needs to be changed).
I have one unlocked phone and I'm changing between two SIMs (different
providers) and somehow it seems to configure that automagically. I
guess,
On Thursday 01 March 2007 14:20:32 Christian T. wrote:
I have one unlocked phone and I'm changing between two SIMs (different
providers) and somehow it seems to configure that automagically. I
guess, the configuration is on the SIM. It's like that for all Austrian
providers i tried. So at
Martin Raißle wrote:
On 3/1/07, Krzysztof Kajkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However there might be such attempts to create GSM trojans
and we should be aware to enable user to protect itself. The question
is how to do that?
What do you think?
First off all I think that there are good
Mike Hodson wrote:
On 2/28/07, Jonathon Suggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The reason that I ask is that on my PocketPC phone (iMate PDA2K), there
is supposedly a hardware limitation that will not allow for this to
occur. It can have the bluetooth headset button initiate the program,
but it
On Thursday 01 March 2007 08:41, you wrote:
later someone will write a Troyan Horse, some king of dialer (like for
application made calls and sent smses. Openmoko kernel should log any
What do you think?
There are two sides to this problem - one, the origin of software. This has
actually
On Thursday 01 March 2007 14:20, Christian T. wrote:
Attila Csipa wrote:
Only if the thief actually sets up SMS (if his SIM is of a different
provider, the service center likely needs to be changed).
I have one unlocked phone and I'm changing between two SIMs (different
providers) and
Sounds like Windows Vista. ABC_Trojan has requested to send an SMS
message. Allow or Deny?
-Steven
On 3/1/07, Martin Raißle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/1/07, Krzysztof Kajkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
However there might be such attempts to create GSM trojans
and we should be aware to
Le jeudi 01 mars 2007 à 12:45 +, Ian Stirling a écrit :
snip
I uploaded to rapidshare http://rapidshare.com/files/18781887/rect.avi
which is a better encoding of the video - 66M, but with most of the
larger text visible.
With the screen and a little bit to the right of it only.
snip
Why
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote:
Personally I like the idea of periodic SMS messages with the
lat/lon/altitude. When in stolen mode, having the phone receive SMS
msgs containing commands for the phone would seem to be very useful.
The first thing that happens to a stolen
I would like to include an accelerometer in a phone design (my own
homebrew design or a future Neo perhaps?), then all the Nintendo Wii
style interactions become possible.
If my phone is locked it asserts that it should be at rest, if someone
picks it up it needs a code or a secret gesture on
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Ian Stirling wrote:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/My_Account is an overview of some ideas.
Briefly, a way for anyone with the phone to access a history of the phone
(bought/sold status, reported as stolen, ...), a way for the user to set these
as well as contact
kkr wrote:
Why not use an open format (.ogg) rather than proprietary one (.avi)?
Regards,
Really not trying to start a fight here. But more players support avi
than ogg. Therefore I agree with the choice.
Open formats and standards are great when they stand on their own
merits. Not
From: Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd.
While thinking of antythieft protection we came to some ideas about
sending smses with stolen phone GPS coords. There were some
ideas about silent voice calls with message that the phone is stolen.
(for details see thread Itch3: Anti-lost/theft
Le jeudi 01 mars 2007 à 09:48 -0600, Jonathon Suggs a écrit :
snip
Isn't this something along the lines of SELinux? If that is the case,
is that something we should look at implementing?
snip
As I understood SELinux, it would be a good tool for security.
Many (or most) other (close) Linux
kkr wrote:
Le jeudi 01 mars 2007 à 09:48 -0600, Jonathon Suggs a écrit :
snip
Isn't this something along the lines of SELinux? If that is the case,
is that something we should look at implementing?
snip
As I understood SELinux, it would be a good tool for security.
Many (or most)
Hi all,
I spent the afternoon reading through the new wiki and trying to install
openembedded on my machine, mostly to try and compile a demo. I didn't
realize I didn't need to build openmoko from scratch to compile the demos,
so I dabbled in using MokoMakefile
I followed the instructions
Here are a few options that I have thought of.
What if there was a peice of software that was like an emulator that would
run the binary on your computer before you uploaded it to your phone. That
would to catch certain security flags, or potentially undesired
behavior, letting the user know
So in attempts to get the demos up and running, I found out that I can
just svn the openmoko tree. I installed the prerequisites from
openembedded website
(http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/OEandYourDistro)
I then checked out version 1003 from http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk
And then I followed
2007/3/1, mathew davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
then give it a rating of some sort 1 - being safe/trusted program and 10 -
being known bad binary/ don't use at any cost unless you really want bad
things to happen.
Well, nobody will recognize difference between rating 2 and 3 or 6 and
7. I think set
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:42, Tomasz Zielinski wrote:
2007/3/1, mathew davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
then give it a rating of some sort 1 - being safe/trusted program and
10 -
being known bad binary/ don't use at any cost unless you really want
bad
things to happen.
Well, nobody will recognize
Tomasz Zielinski wrote:
2007/3/1, mathew davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
then give it a rating of some sort 1 - being safe/trusted program and
10 -
being known bad binary/ don't use at any cost unless you really want bad
things to happen.
Well, nobody will recognize difference between rating 2 and
kkr wrote:
Le jeudi 01 mars 2007 à 12:44 -0600, Jonathon Suggs a écrit :
kkr wrote:
Why not use an open format (.ogg) rather than proprietary one (.avi)?
It was not a criticism, only a question! If you felt it as such a
criticism, I'm sorry...
If I've asked it, it's only:
- FOSDEM use too
On 3/2/07, Jonathon Suggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I really like that idea. That could be a standard part of EVERY
installed app (outside of trusted OpenMoko apps). Just one more step in
helping users not shoot themselves in the foot.
In combination of what was said before - the virus
Paul Wouters wrote:
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Ian Stirling wrote:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/My_Account is an overview of some ideas.
Briefly, a way for anyone with the phone to access a history of the phone
(bought/sold status, reported as stolen, ...), a way for the user to set these
as well
Wil Chung wrote:
Hi all,
I spent the afternoon reading through the new wiki and trying to install
openembedded on my machine, mostly to try and compile a demo. I didn't
realize I didn't need to build openmoko from scratch to compile the
demos, so I dabbled in using MokoMakefile
I
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Ian Stirling wrote:
Reflashing never gets you back a different account number, it keys off the
IMEI, which is not flashable. (well, perhaps it is, but it's not flashable
from the linux side, and AIUI, nobody else knows how at the moment.)
I really hope the IMEI number is
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 13:38 -0500, Todd W wrote:
That's the problem with malware in general. You can't engineer stupidity out
of your users.
Fortunately in Linux usually to be able to run executable arriving in
email you need to do following:
1) Save file to disk
2) chmod +x that_file (or
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