Are there news on that?
thx
-homyx
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
Anyone had luck getting the dev platform working in openSUSE 10.2?
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Is that searchable? Is it threaded? Will there be someone on 24/7 that is
knowledgable and helpful?
I understand that some people love IRC and mailing lists. But users expect
to search and ask questions in a forum, not on a mailing list and IRC. I
think it's about time for some forums.
Steven ** wrote:
Is that searchable? Is it threaded? Will there be someone on 24/7 that
is knowledgable and helpful?
I understand that some people love IRC and mailing lists. But users
expect to search and ask questions in a forum, not on a mailing list and
IRC. I think it's about time
I've been reading the archives of the various OpenMoko lists and I've noticed
a significant number of people who admit they are not programmers at all, or
that this is their first exposure to Linux.
I'm curious what a non-programmer is going to do with this device in the next
few months. And if
On 7/20/07, Jeff Rush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been reading the archives of the various OpenMoko lists and I've
noticed
a significant number of people who admit they are not programmers at all,
or
that this is their first exposure to Linux.
I'm curious what a non-programmer is going to do
IRC and lists are great tools at sending and distributing information
fast. However, as more users, especially ones with little to no
experience with linux, begin purchasing neo's these lists will be
inundated with drivel. There is only ~1000 people on this list and look
at simple problems
Hello Kero/Jeff et al,
A NZ-grown opensource project that addresses the mailing list VS forum
problem might help here - http://onlinegroups.net/
It functions a lot like Yahoo Groups and gives people the *option* of
choosing their desired interface, i.e. mail client or web forum.
Just my 2c.
Thanks for the information, asap my computer is running again, I'll mess
around with the open problems (if not closed so far)...
George Barta wrote:
I have been able to build the environment with the MokoMakefile, and
run the emulator after a couple of workarounds. Unfortunatelly, I'm
Jim McDonald wrote:
Giles Jones wrote:
Jim McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
This is why you send the event to the notification system and then wait for the response. The notification system would read the users rules and act appropriately.
For an incoming call if you had a rule which
Henry Law wrote:
What about using a system similar to iptables? Each module only
provide function to match against some call info. Some target actions
are defined by the notification system. And rules is setup by user
so that when a call event come in, the notification system can
check the
Hi.
ramsesoriginal pisze:
On 7/20/07, *Jeff Rush* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've been reading the archives of the various OpenMoko lists and
I've noticed
a significant number of people who admit they are not programmers
at all, or
that this is their
Ryan Lozier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is there an openmoko forum? I am really sick of reading this mailing list for
the last year to find subjects im interested in. If there is one, please
someone point me to it, and im not talking about the wiki. I mean, where
would someone go if they had a
Jeff Andros wrote:
ok, but here's the thing with having full plugin framework: what if
two plugins take mutually exclusive actions (I.E. one plugin has a
whitelist, it tries to answer the phone because it's the girlfriend,
but the other plugin attempts to send the call to voicemail because
Rodolphe Ortalo wrote:
Hmm, btw, I did not even get a YES_I_DO message personnally... has
everyone on the list received one against their order?
Rodolphe
...
I didn't receive one either. Don't know whether my order got lost,
I mistyped my email or I ordered too early or too late (2. day) ;-)
El lun, 16-07-2007 a las 13:10 -0400, Ian Darwin escribió:
Calling it the free(d) phone to consumers (as opposed to developers)
is going to engender an enormous amount of confusion and ill-will.
Call it something else in the consumer market. The Flexible Phone. The
Hi,
Has there been any research into any geek holsters that would fit
the moko?
Thanks
Ewan
Ewan Oughton B.Sc. Comp Sys
DB / AnonFTP / Orac Root Admin SkyNet
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Jim McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
which is the bit that I'm worried is
not being considered and so this type of functionality will just not be
possible without being a 'core' developer.
I don't think the project will last long if there's too much snobbery about who
does what.
By
Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Thet will be very good beta testers. And about that linux, always
should be the first time. But linux has its own magnetism. Jeff, I
think that some of them will install linux distro on their PC and a new
linux adventure will
Giles Jones wrote:
Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote :
Thet will be very good beta testers. And about that linux, always
should be the first time. But linux has its own magnetism. Jeff, I
think that some of them will install linux distro on their PC and a new
linux
On Jul 17, 2007, at 8:58 PM, Daniel Robinson wrote:
What are the projects of interest for people?
I hope to port some bittorrent and emule client for openmoko, or
perhaps even some sort of download module that could be utilized by
other programs.
IRC is another important app for me as
Giles Jones wrote:
I don't think the project will last long if there's too much snobbery about who does what.
In this case it isn't snobbery so much as ensuring that there is a
simple way to put the right functionality in the right place.
Overloading gsmd with lots of (potentially
On 7/20/07, Esben Stien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isn't there like a bonus order if you order 5 neos'?, for the whole
family?;)
I bet you want to run a cluster of portable jack servers ;-) I'm
wondering if it's possible to rack mount NEOs...
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Single connector for power and networking, battery backed. Think of it as a
very small blade - all you need is a chassis full of USB hubs ;-)
On Friday 20 July 2007 13:12, Marc-Olivier Barre wrote:
On 7/20/07, Esben Stien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isn't there like a bonus order if you order 5
On Jul 20, 2007, at 2:31 AM, Santiago Crespo wrote:
I like the spanish term: libre (like in ubuntu cd-box).
It's not a bad word, but unfortunately when I hear it I get an image
of a guy wearing army fatigues and carrying an automatic weapon. To
some extent I think choosing a branding
Brad Midgley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
neo is running pulseaudio which is also an audio server with an
option to use sched_fifo.
Yeah, I know PulseAudio, but that doesn't help interconnecting modules
in a real time fashion.
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Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a
The killer app on my Treo is Keyring, a password manager:
http://gnukeyring.sourceforge.net/
Has anyone thought of adding something like this to OpenMoko? Perhaps
gnome-keyring can be easily ported?
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Seems like we need the right software then. http://gbatemp.net , running IPB
Portal v2 ( http://www.invisionpower.com/ ), does what you describe pretty
reliably as far as I can tell. Don't know if any other board software has
that functionality.
I find the hostality towards forums here pretty
I've certainly considered it. I use a similar app on my Psion and will need a
replacement if I'm to switch over to OpenMoko. Perhaps when I get that darned
qemu to compile...
On Friday 20 July 2007 06:54, Dirk Bergstrom wrote:
The killer app on my Treo is Keyring, a password manager:
On 7/20/07, Adam Krikstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IRC and lists are great tools at sending and distributing information
fast. However, as more users, especially ones with little to no
experience with linux, begin purchasing neo's these lists will be
inundated with drivel. There is only
Here are the community communication options:
1) email lists
email lists are available as single emails or as a digest. These
lists can be searched via Google proxy. Inherent organization is
chronological. Can be threaded, but threads on similar topics are not
connected.
2) IRC
and
Adam,
Thanks for this important link. I decided to blog on the topic,
in case you're interested:
http://weblogs.java.net/blog/terrencebarr/archive/2007/07/open_technologi.html
-- Terrence
Adam Krikstone wrote:
I'm with the idiots for a wireless carterfone decision. I don't think
we were
Sander van Grieken wrote:
Here, check this out:
http://www.voltaicsystems.com/index.shtml
This would be my perfect Neo companion..
Do take notice of the hours of DIRECT sunlight needed to charge devices.
With less direct sunlight you need even more hours!!!
This comes from their own site:
Jeff Rush writes:
Mailing lists aren't exactly fading away, and many people dislike forums. In
this case, it won't help if those with questions i.e. users flock to the
forums, if those with the answers, the more core developers use mailing lists.
You'll need community concensus, or a team to
People who are interested in marketing OpenMoko might want to read
this article:
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/07/
just_because_it_saves_the_world.php
It speaks to exactly the problem that we will have marketing
OpenMoko: how to get Joe and Jane Average to think of the Open in
On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 09:06:02AM -0600, Mathew Davis wrote:
On 7/20/07, Adam Krikstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
IRC and lists are great tools at sending and distributing information
fast. However, as more users, especially ones with little to no
experience with linux, begin purchasing
Hi,
Adam Krikstone wrote:
There's
nothing stopping a GSM provider from blocking all unbranded IMEI's,
including your neo.
Different operators have different implementation of the GSM standard,
which they call it their IP-crap-R.
Now, if we want Operator Acceptance Testing with Neo, we have
There's
nothing stopping a GSM provider from blocking all unbranded IMEI's,
including your neo.
There's nothing stopping a toll highway operator from blocking unbranded
cars either. But do they? Does any GSM provider block unbranded IMEIs?
I know in Canada we have one GSM carrier (under two
Hi,
On 7/20/07, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You were planning to *ask* if you can use YOUR phone on YOUR plan?
Yes.
SK
--
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http://www.shakthimaan.com
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On Thursday 19 July 2007 23:39, Steven ** wrote:
Is that searchable? Is it threaded? Will there be someone on 24/7 that is
knowledgable and helpful?
I understand that some people love IRC and mailing lists. But users expect
to search and ask questions in a forum, not on a mailing list and
As far as I know, no GSM provider blocks IMEI's. I was responding to a
person who asked whether it was possible. I do see troubling signs ahead
coming from Telecommunication providers as consolidation continues.
Their argument for net neutrality can easily be applied to wireless
under the
Mathew Davis wrote:
Sorry for writing so much but I really feel strongly that a forum will
only
be a positive thing. The more information we can get out to general
users
and the more help we can offer them the better. I personally thing the
forums and the mailing list will be two seperate
Andy Powell wrote:
On Thursday 19 July 2007 23:39, Steven ** wrote:
Is that searchable? Is it threaded? Will there be someone on 24/7 that is
knowledgable and helpful?
I understand that some people love IRC and mailing lists. But users expect
to search and ask questions in a forum, not
On Friday 20 July 2007 17:35, Jonathon Suggs wrote:
IRC and mailing lists have their uses, but so do forums. I honestly
don't understand the resistance to the idea of a forum. Other than
people being so closed minded and elitist that they can't understand how
people are soo stupid not to
7. Most everything else can be designed by taking dumb and going 5
steps below that for a public launch.
IRC and mailing lists will not cut it for the target market public
launch. The only reason I care about the general public is that their
acceptance is the only way more neo's will be
Make it simple and relate value to the consumer. Nothing really new.
Design a stable openmoko platform with a aGPS application that geocodes
a cached US map from an SD card. Show them what that can do for them in
a course of a day. Then tell them the GPS is free and will always be
free.
Mathew Davis wrote:
And I don't understand why we can't have both. I really don't see the
problem so if someone could explain why not having a forum would be
advantageous and not just personal preferance I am all ears, because I
could list a lot of reasons why forums could be advantageous.
2. The OpenMoko team at FIC are spread _very_ thin and lack the time/resources
to research and establish a forum themselves. They were overloaded just
getting a basic storefront up. I don't understand why a company the size of
FIC isn't providing more logistics support to them, so they can
Andy Powell wrote:
On Friday 20 July 2007 17:35, Jonathon Suggs wrote:
IRC and mailing lists have their uses, but so do forums. I honestly
don't understand the resistance to the idea of a forum. Other than
people being so closed minded and elitist that they can't understand how
people are
Jonathon Suggs wrote:
IRC is great for technical people to ask quick little questions
without spamming the list. However, IRC is not an option for those
less-technical. Basically, if they can't get the information they are
looking for using their browser and ONLY their browser, then they
I can respect that. I understand that the Openmoko team is streached pretty
thin. And I wish I had some skills to volunteer to build a forum, but I
can't I am more software driven and have no experiance with web
development. Maybe someone else can do this. I don't think opening a forum
will
Here are the community communication options:
1) email lists
email lists are available as single emails or as a digest. These
lists can be searched via Google proxy. Inherent organization is
chronological. Can be threaded, but threads on similar topics are not
connected.
2) IRC
and
On 20/07/07, Kero van Gelder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Seems like we need the right software then. http://gbatemp.net , running
IPB
Portal v2 ( http://www.invisionpower.com/ ), does what you describe
pretty
reliably as far as I can tell. Don't know if any other board software
has
that
Jeff Rush wrote:
1. Our community is small -- spreading the discussions thinly before we have
reached critical mass will dilute the synergy. We are just now starting to
come together as a community, and I think we even have too many mailing lists
as it is (not always clear on which one to
FYI, I am #2575 because I am generally a wise and patient man...
(Grr!!! I made my order less than 24hours after the opening)
Rodolphe
Le jeudi 19 juillet 2007 à 22:13 +0200, Peter Trapp a écrit :
YES_I_DID
:) or better we = group purchasing :)
From our side everything went
Le jeudi 19 juillet 2007 à 13:35 -0700, Daniel Robinson a écrit :
My number was 3585. Does that mean there are 1747 nerds ahead of me?
Hmm, possible. But maybe there are even more after you... Comforting
no? ;-)
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Le vendredi 20 juillet 2007 à 02:08 +0200, Esben Stien a écrit :
Isn't there like a bonus order if you order 5 neos'?, for the whole
family?;)
Wow... A whole family of linux-based mobile phone _developers_?
Happy man, indeed.
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Raphaël Jacquot wrote:
Adam Krikstone wrote:
Make it simple and relate value to the consumer. Nothing really new.
Design a stable openmoko platform with a aGPS application that geocodes
a cached US map from an SD card. Show them what that can do for them in
a course of a day. Then tell
Jeff Rush wrote:
Mathew Davis wrote:
And I don't understand why we can't have both. I really don't see the
problem so if someone could explain why not having a forum would be
advantageous and not just personal preferance I am all ears, because I
could list a lot of reasons why forums could
It was an example. Just replace US with insert your country here.
Raphaël Jacquot wrote:
Adam Krikstone wrote:
Make it simple and relate value to the consumer. Nothing really new.
Design a stable openmoko platform with a aGPS application that geocodes
a cached US map from an SD card.
On Friday 20 July 2007 11:46, Ewan Oughton wrote:
Has there been any research into any geek holsters that would fit
the moko?
Check out this one:
http://tabletblog.com/2007/05/urban-tool-gadget-hip-holster-review.html
For me it is a little too geeky though ;-)
Felix
I am not even sure they need to know about Open if only they are aware
of the Moko.
Look at this other buzz word: Linux, MMme Dupond do not really
understand what it relates to. (Unix, free, freedom, even Mac
sometimes...;-)
_We_ need to know that it's actually Linux, or sometimes
On 7/20/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Friday 20 July 2007 11:46, Ewan Oughton wrote:
Has there been any research into any geek holsters that would fit
the moko?
Check out this one:
http://tabletblog.com/2007/05/urban-tool-gadget-hip-holster-review.html
For me it is a
co
On 20 Jul 2007, at 19:48, Rodolphe Ortalo wrote:
I am not even sure they need to know about Open if only they are
aware
of the Moko.
Look at this other buzz word: Linux, MMme Dupond do not really
understand what it relates to. (Unix, free, freedom, even Mac
sometimes...;-)
If the phone
On Jul 20, 2007, at 11:48 AM, Rodolphe Ortalo wrote:
I suspect we should only ask the average people to follow us [1],
not to
understand the full software stack. That may even be beneficial in the
end.
This is precisely why I suggest reading the article.
On 20 Jul 2007, at 20:29, Jeff Andros wrote:
On 7/20/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip
If the phone is in a shop then people will buy on looks and any POS
literature.
snip
I just think back to when the razr went on sale... people went to
stores JUST to buy one... somehow we
Hi,
Jeff Rush asks,
I'm curious what a non-programmer is going to do with this device in the next
few months. And if your first use of Linux is on the device itself, and you
run Windows on your desktop, how you're going to grow your Linux skills and
effectively develop applications. Just
Order #1833 here and not a developer at all. My last Linux experience was
that I changed the screen resolution in Suse 9 to something that didn't work
and wasn't able to change it back and get back to the GUI. :P Still, I need
this phone and I need it now. It's the phone I've been waiting for for
On 20 Jul 2007, at 22:25, Ortwin Regel wrote:
Order #1833 here and not a developer at all. My last Linux
experience was that I changed the screen resolution in Suse 9 to
something that didn't work and wasn't able to change it back and
get back to the GUI. :P Still, I need this phone and I
Hello,
On 7/20/07, Ted Lemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It speaks to exactly the problem that we will have marketing
OpenMoko: how to get Joe and Jane Average to think of the Open in
OpenMoko as something they care about.
Don't do rthat then. As in don't limit the marketing to only focus on
the
Keep it simple.
Users don't want to know it's got hammerhead GPS, or runs on Linux. They want
to know that it is reliable, cna do for them what their current phone does -
and be aware of how the extra stuff can benefit them.
I like the idea of sending a quick sms with your coordinates, that
On Jul 20, 2007, at 4:25 PM, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
It speaks to exactly the problem that we will have marketing
OpenMoko: how to get Joe and Jane Average to think of the Open in
OpenMoko as something they care about.
Don't do rthat then. As in don't limit the marketing to only focus on
the
Just joined the list, hope this message ends up where it's supposed to go.
I'm an it-hobbyist who is proficient in a number of languages and has some
linux (and bash) exposure. I bet there are lots of people like me who
salivate over this phone.
What drives my lust for it the most is to
On Jul 20, 2007, at 5:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe I stated the obvious, but I would like this phone to be a
success
and thats how i see it happening.. start with the basics...
Like the iPhone, you mean? :')
Of course it would be great to be able to sync with Microsoft
While we wait for our Neo's to arrive, maybe we could all whip-out our
order ID #'s and compare them (you know...see who's got the biggest)
I've got an 1870 I was quite proud of until recently. While I did the
YES_I_DO, I still haven't heard anything since then. Nor has my card
been
AGPS is where focus needs to be. This natural (and free) comparative
advantage needs to be developed to attract new developers and customers.
1. Silent/loud/vibrate depending on location, programmable or based on
courtesy settings-- max goes silent near schools, libraries, etc.
2. shopping
*You mean similar to what is already here:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/P1_Owners*
Cosmo wrote:
While we wait for our Neo's to arrive, maybe we could all whip-out our
order ID #'s and compare them (you know...see who's got the biggest)
I've got an 1870 I was quite proud of until recently.
I'm #1820. And have received a payment confirmation. It is my understanding
that they have actually charged VERY few credit cards.
Note: There is a page on the Wiki that details some order # info:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/P1_Owners
-Jason
On Friday 20 July 2007 17:33:42 Cosmo wrote:
On 7/20/07, Adam Krikstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
AGPS is where focus needs to be. This natural (and free) comparative
advantage needs to be developed to attract new developers and customers.
Holy schnikees! What a list o_0
Joe
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