Re: Back to the basics: improving user experience

2008-10-21 Thread Yogiz
I must admit I never tried 2007.2 - but the things I read about it suggested that it also wasn't very stable - people recommended using Qtopia if you wanted a stable phone experience. Does 2007.2 really provide a rock-solid phone/sms experience? No.

Re: One more rotate version

2008-10-21 Thread DJDAS
Sarton O'Brien ha scritto: Speaking of formatting ... I imagine there's a reply in there somewhere :P On Tuesday 21 October 2008 01:31:21 DJDAS wrote: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head /head .. /body /html Sorry :P Sent in

Re: [Debian] installer script

2008-10-21 Thread Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson
Matthew Lane wrote: Hey all, I'm trying to install Debian on the freerunner using the install.sh script. I keep getting stuck at Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. and then my script exits. I've tried individually installing, but after the install step the script fails to

[Om2008.9] AtChat talking every second to SIM

2008-10-21 Thread Matthias Apitz
Hello, I was looking a bit through the output of logread and I'm asking me if it is normal (and necessary in the sense of power consumption) that 'qpe' is talking every second to the SIM to ask for the signal level of the GSM: Oct 21 11:34:28 om-gta02 user.notice root: AtChat : T : AT+CSQ Oct

Re: [Om2008.9] AtChat talking every second to SIM

2008-10-21 Thread Lorn Potter
Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I was looking a bit through the output of logread and I'm asking me if it is normal (and necessary in the sense of power consumption) that 'qpe' is talking every second to the SIM to ask for the signal level of the GSM: Oct 21 11:34:28 om-gta02 user.notice

[Debian/FSO] Reliable restart of zhone?

2008-10-21 Thread joakim
I'm having some issues with Zhone. Sometimes I cant answer a call, sometimes Zhone loses its connection with the gsm network withouth notifying me. Maybe the bugs are in Zhone, maybe they are in frameworkd, but how do I restart Zhone/frameworkd reliably? -- Joakim Verona

Re: [2008.x] GPRS Instructions on the Wiki

2008-10-21 Thread Arigead
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joel Newkirk wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:54:45 +0100, Arigead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't want to hijack the thread this stems from Re: [2008.9] Wifi very unreliable but I mentioned there that external links from a wiki might not be the best

Re: [Om2008.9] AtChat talking every second to SIM

2008-10-21 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:58, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I was looking a bit through the output of logread and I'm asking me if it is normal (and necessary in the sense of power consumption) that 'qpe' is talking every second to the SIM to ask

Re: netfix testers?

2008-10-21 Thread Joel Newkirk
OK, I posted the updated package to htp://newkirk.us/om/testing/netfix-j2.tar.gz - using 'route' instead of 'ip' now to set up default routes. So the only external dependency should be for resolvconf on SHR and Raster (and I'm guessing FSO). Please test and post results or problems to this

Re: [2008.x] GPRS Instructions on the Wiki

2008-10-21 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:14:05 +0100, Arigead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wiki Instructions: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI Finally got this GPRS sort of working :-) I put together a shell script of the steps I've taken to get this far. A lot

Re: consider buying Neo Freerunner

2008-10-21 Thread William Kenworthy
On Mon, 2008-10-20 at 16:40 -0400, Warren Baird wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not everyone has those problems, I experienced those problems only a couple times myself but not every call. I actually use mine

Re: [FDOM] charging problem?

2008-10-21 Thread Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson
Matthew Lane wrote: I'm running FDOM and I'm trying to charge off the wall charger, but my AUX light doesn't light up, and my battery meter doesn't change to the bolt; essentially my phone won't charge. It will, however, charge from the computer. Is this a known issue? Also, I have

Re: consider buying Neo Freerunner

2008-10-21 Thread Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson
William Kenworthy wrote: No, you are in the vast majority I think - those who can reliably make phone and sms calls are in the minority - if they even exist. BillK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [FDOM] charging problem?

2008-10-21 Thread William Kenworthy
Are you using a very recent u-boot. There was one version that had problems like that. BillK On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 06:02 -0600, Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson wrote: Matthew Lane wrote: I'm running FDOM and I'm trying to charge off the wall charger, but my AUX light doesn't light up, and my

[Qtextended] Bluetooth headset

2008-10-21 Thread Nishit Dave
Hi List, Can someone say which bluetooth headset has been found to work the best with FR? Any experience in using it with Qtextended, such as how easy it is to connect, how is the battery drain-out situation, whether it solves the noise and echo problems etc.? If your collective wisdom can

Re: [FDOM] charging problem?

2008-10-21 Thread VirtuAlex
Matthew Lane wrote: I'm running FDOM and I'm trying to charge off the wall charger, but my AUX light doesn't light up, and my battery meter doesn't change to the bolt; essentially my phone won't charge. It will, however, charge from the computer. Is this a known issue? I have to

Re: [Om2008.9] man pages??? killing events/0

2008-10-21 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, October 21, 2008 a las 12:51:22PM +1100, Sarton O'Brien escribió: ... You were asking for documentation for _technically_ a 3rd party program included on an embedded system. It makes sense to consult the website of the software or (heaven forbid) search for the man

Re: Pingus ported

2008-10-21 Thread Giovanni
Does Pingus work also on 2007.2? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [Om2008.9] man pages??? killing events/0

2008-10-21 Thread VirtuAlex
Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I'm thinking in writing s small script which pops up a box on the FR and asking for reboot if this proc events/0 run away By the way, when events/0 goes nuts I put FR into sleep for couple of minutes by pressing power button. When I wake it up events/0

Re: [Om2008.9] AtChat talking every second to SIM

2008-10-21 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, October 21, 2008 a las 12:24:57PM +0200, Cédric Berger escribió: every second (or two, as the case may be) might be a bit extreme, but this is just getting the signal quality. I also noticed that without sim card, it keeps trying to communicate with it continuously. I do

Re: Virtualized developer system (was Re: Back to thebasics:improving user experience)

2008-10-21 Thread Christ van Willegen
Folks, On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:24:11 +1000, Denis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Jisakiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ¿May I suggest the image being a virtualbox one instead of vmware?

Re: One more rotate version

2008-10-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
The more I look at it, the more I think there's more to it than rotation. How about a tool that considers orientation as an input event? E.g. I'd love to be able to say if upside down, lock the screen, and if still upside down after 5s, suspend. Stefan

Re: [FSO] QT Dbus connection to Gypsy

2008-10-21 Thread Michael Tansella
Ok now I got it: I can call simple methodes (see below) But one problem I still have. i don't know what type Gypsy.Position.GetPosition returns. When I call it with mdbus it returns: #mdbus -s org.freedesktop.Gypsy /org/freedesktop/Gypsy org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Position.GetPosition

Re: One more rotate version

2008-10-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:17:10AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: The more I look at it, the more I think there's more to it than rotation. How about a tool that considers orientation as an input event? E.g. I'd love to be able to say if upside down, lock the screen, and if still upside down

Re: [Qtextended] Bluetooth headset

2008-10-21 Thread Paul
Can someone say which bluetooth headset has been found to work the best with FR? Any experience in using it with Qtextended, such as how easy it is to connect, how is the battery drain-out situation, whether it solves the noise and echo problems etc.? If your collective wisdom can

Re: netfix testers?

2008-10-21 Thread Alastair Johnson
Joel Newkirk wrote: OK, I posted the updated package to htp://newkirk.us/om/testing/netfix-j2.tar.gz - using 'route' instead of 'ip' now to set up default routes. So the only external dependency should be for resolvconf on SHR and Raster (and I'm guessing FSO). Please test and post

Re: (OM2008.9) Flashback to QTextended

2008-10-21 Thread Paul
Yogiz wrote: That has never happened with me. What kernel are you using Additional information: When I switch off auto suspend (suspend = off) the problem does not exist in OM2008.9. Display is on, and stays on while I plug in the USB cable. This is a good thing. I'll try the opkg upgrade

Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Cédric Berger
Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Paul
Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! Now that would be cool... Paul -- Time's fun when you're having flies. -Kermit the Frog http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2008

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Sam Kuper
2008/10/21 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] time to port to Neo ! I'm going to be watching this with interest! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: consider buying Neo Freerunner

2008-10-21 Thread Alastair Johnson
Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: No, you are in the vast majority I think - those who can reliably make phone and sms calls are in the minority - if they even exist. BillK Those of use using reliably are minority but we do exist. Occasionally the phone will coma on

more Freerunner coverage in India

2008-10-21 Thread rakshat hooja
Living digital magazine has done a small write up on the Freerunner in their current issue http://livingdigitalindia.ciol.com/Archive_MagazineArchives_101412_Archives.aspx A more detailed review is expected in their sister magazine, PC Quest, next month. Also for those that missed it,

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Jan Prinsloo
WHO :) Let the games begin! On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Sam Kuper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/10/21 Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] time to port to Neo ! I'm going to be watching this with interest! ___ Openmoko community

(OM2008.9) Upgrade - update

2008-10-21 Thread Paul
Right. Ran both upgrade and update. Upgrade went reasonably well, and ended with: Collected errors: * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/om-gta02/angstrom-version_P1-Snapshot-20081014-r1_om-gta02.opk, error 404 * Failed to download angstrom-version. Perhaps

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Didier Raboud
Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! Hey... it says open-source (you can read the code) not free software (you can do whatever you want)... http://code.google.com/android/terms.html

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread rakshat hooja
Quoting a mail we received sometime ago from Koolu Koolu presently supplies other distributors globally for Openmoko Freerunners. Due to this volume we can provide lower prices and value add. In November 2008 we start shipping Freerunner with Android pre installed and supported as an option

Re: (OM2008.9) Upgrade - update

2008-10-21 Thread rakshat hooja
As long as you are just getting .sig download errors there should be no problems. OPKG seems to have a problem with package signatures Rakshat So I ran update, which gave me a lot of Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/all/Packages.sig Signature check failed

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Cédric Berger
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 17:48, Didier Raboud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! Hey... it says open-source (you can read the code) not free software (you can

Re: (OM2008.9) Upgrade - update

2008-10-21 Thread Paul
rakshat hooja wrote: As long as you are just getting .sig download errors there should be no problems. OPKG seems to have a problem with package signatures Grand... thank you. Running upgrade again now completed without a problem. Paul

[OM2008.8 - testing] - no desktop icons any more.

2008-10-21 Thread Benedikt Schindler
hi, is someone on the testing tree of the 2008.8 distro, and solved the icon problem yet? i upgraded to the latest testing 2008.8 packages. I know that there is a problem with the splash screen at boot up, that isn't solved yet. so i disabled the boot screen (btw: that saves 10 seconds boot

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread flamma
Hey... it says open-source (you can read the code) not free software (you can do whatever you want)... I don't know why when some people read open-source they understand open to read but not open to modify. Android is released under Apache License version 2, which is considered free software

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Jim Ancona
Didier Raboud wrote: Hey... it says open-source (you can read the code) not free software (you can do whatever you want)... It appears to be Open Source in the sense that it uses OSI-approved licenses, Apache 2.0 for most code, GPL for kernel patches. Note that both of those licenses are

Re: [Qtextended] Bluetooth headset

2008-10-21 Thread Nishit Dave
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone say which bluetooth headset has been found to work the best with FR? Any experience in using it with Qtextended, such as how easy it is to connect, how is the battery drain-out situation, whether it solves the

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Daniel Benoy
On Tuesday 21 October 2008 11:33:40 you wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Tarandeep Gill
What my belief is that the Linux license means that anyone who obtains a copy of the Linux Kernel in binary form, irrespective of how they obtained that copy, has a right to the source code used to build that exact Linux kernel binary. Derivative works of the Linux kernel also fall into this

Re: [OM2008.8 - testing] - no desktop icons any more.

2008-10-21 Thread Daniel Benoy
On Tuesday 21 October 2008 12:33:04 you wrote: hi, is someone on the testing tree of the 2008.8 distro, and solved the icon problem yet? i upgraded to the latest testing 2008.8 packages. I know that there is a problem with the splash screen at boot up, that isn't solved yet. so i

Re: consider buying Neo Freerunner

2008-10-21 Thread xaos
Qtextended is probably the most stable at this point, and that has it's caveats. Incoming calls are always registered as missed calls. Incoming calls are always answered as speakerphone, instead of handset. I'm not sure if there is a setting for it, but I haven't been able to find it. If anyone

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Jim Ancona
Tarandeep Gill wrote: What my belief is that the Linux license means that anyone who obtains a copy of the Linux Kernel in binary form, irrespective of how they obtained that copy, has a right to the source code used to build that exact Linux kernel binary. Derivative works of the Linux kernel

Re: [FSO-testing] Good news for 19/10/2008 image

2008-10-21 Thread Markus Schlichting
Hi, where can a FSO image from 19/10/2008 be found? I can only see one from 11-spet-08 at http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone3/ Thank you for any hint ;-) cheers Markus ___ Openmoko community mailing list

[Qtextended] Clue, just a clue about everlasting sleep problem

2008-10-21 Thread Nishit Dave
The clock turned from 11:59pm to 0:00 hours of 22 October, and my FR woke up automatically from suspend. Is this, and other tricks it may be trying when humans are asleep, the reason for its battery mysteriously going dead overnight? ___ Openmoko

Re: [FSO-testing] Good news for 19/10/2008 image

2008-10-21 Thread Markus Schlichting
Hi, found it ;-) FSO images can be found at http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-unstable/images/ SHR images at http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/neo1973/ sorry for asking too early ;-) cheers Markus Am Dienstag, 21. Oktober 2008 20:27:54 schrieb Markus Schlichting: Hi, where

Re: netfix testers?

2008-10-21 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:29:30 +0100, Alastair Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joel Newkirk wrote: OK, I posted the updated package to htp://newkirk.us/om/testing/netfix-j2.tar.gz - using 'route' instead of 'ip' now to set up default routes. So the only external dependency should be for

Re: [FSO-testing] Good news for 19/10/2008 image

2008-10-21 Thread Max Giesbert
http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/ Markus Schlichting schrieb: Hi, where can a FSO image from 19/10/2008 be found? I can only see one from 11-spet-08 at http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone3/ Thank you for any hint ;-) cheers Markus

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Jim Morris
Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! At last maybe we will get a stable, usable O/S for the Neo (which I have shelved until such a thing exists). I was using Qt but QtExtended was a

Anyone interested in mentoring?

2008-10-21 Thread Jason Cawood
I've owned my freerunner since july and have tinkered with it a lot trying out everything you guys throw out there. But I honestly don't know much about what I am doing... I'm to the point where I'd love to actually submit helpful bug reports and be able to SSH into my freerunner which I can't

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Fredrik Wendt
tis 2008-10-21 klockan 17:48 +0200 skrev Didier Raboud: Cédric Berger wrote: You have to grant your copyright to Google... This is because of yow copyright works, it's the same with GNU so _that_ part really shouldn't hurt if Google had chosen a FOSS style license ... / Fredrik signature.asc

Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved

2008-10-21 Thread Holger Freyther
On Monday 13 October 2008 15:12:55 Daniel Nöthen wrote: Hello, I finally found a place in the qtopia sources where I could put code for activating the echo suppression for every incoming/outgoing call. I'm quite sure that experienced qtopia programmers would find a better place for it. But

GSM buzz and gsmhandset.state

2008-10-21 Thread Jan R
Hi all! The GSM buzzing noise was unbearable for anybody I called, and it was indeed louder than my voice - that's why I had a look at the wolfson data sheet and the ALSA channel map on the wiki and fiddled a bit... First thing I noticed was that according to http://wiki.openmoko.org/

Re: Re: [Debian] installer script

2008-10-21 Thread Matthew Lane
No, I have not tried the 512mb card (it's at home and I'm at college). I'm not sure how to do what you're talking about arne, but you're suggesting that I can install a base system and put Debian on that? Can you point me in the correct direction? Also, my 8gb uSDHC card works: [EMAIL

Re: [Debian] installer script

2008-10-21 Thread Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson
Matthew Lane wrote: No, I have not tried the 512mb card (it's at home and I'm at college). I'm not sure how to do what you're talking about arne, but you're suggesting that I can install a base system and put Debian on that? Can you point me in the correct direction? He was saying if

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Jim Morris
Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! Maybe we should setup a Neo branch on Androids GIT, and start to collaborate on the port? Anyone else interested? -- Jim Morris,

Google Android on Neo Freerunner?

2008-10-21 Thread Jake Beard
Hi, this is my first post to the list. Now that Google has released the source code of Android, are there any plans to port it to the Neo Freerunner? Thanks, Jake ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson
Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! Maybe we should setup a Neo branch on Androids GIT, and start to collaborate on the port? Anyone else interested?

Re: Google Android on Neo Freerunner?

2008-10-21 Thread Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson
Jake Beard wrote: Hi, this is my first post to the list. Now that Google has released the source code of Android, are there any plans to port it to the Neo Freerunner? Thanks, Jake ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Denis Galvão
Everybody ;) -- Denis Galvão AsteriskBrasil.org On 21/10/2008, at 18:11, Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! Maybe we should setup a Neo branch on Androids GIT, and

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Levy Abinajm Melero Sant'Anna
Maybe we should setup a Neo branch on Androids GIT, and start to collaborate on the port? Anyone else interested? I'm no programmer but I'd love to test out daily builds and report back my findings. -Shawn The same for me, I am also testing FDOM and Debian. Levy 'Lewis' S. Google

Re: One more rotate version

2008-10-21 Thread Fabian Henze
Hey guys, I have spend more time optimizing the code and fixing bugs of my previous release. So here are the changes compared with my previous version: - Fixed a memleak - Changed the angle, which is required to initiate a rotation from 22.5° to 15° - Added a workaround for a bug in the

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:52:02AM -0700, Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html At last maybe we will get a stable, usable O/S for the Neo Ya t'ink? exists). I was using Qt but QtExtended

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Jim Morris
Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! Maybe we should setup a Neo branch on Androids GIT, and start to collaborate on the port? Anyone else interested? Ok well

Re: One more rotate version

2008-10-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:26:41PM +0200, Fabian Henze wrote: Hey guys, I have spend more time optimizing the code and fixing bugs of my previous release. So here are the changes compared with my previous version: - Fixed a memleak - Changed the angle, which is required to initiate a

Re: One more rotate version

2008-10-21 Thread Fabian Henze
On 21.10.2008 at 22:26:41, Fabian Henze wrote: Hey guys, I have spend more time optimizing the code and fixing bugs of my previous release. So here are the changes compared with my previous version: - Fixed a memleak - Changed the angle, which is required to initiate a rotation from 22.5°

Re: One more rotate version

2008-10-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:33:49PM +0200, Fabian Henze wrote: On 21.10.2008 at 22:26:41, Fabian Henze wrote: Hey guys, I have spend more time optimizing the code and fixing bugs of my previous release. So here are the changes compared with my previous version: - Fixed a memleak -

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread joezeewails
Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Rod Whitby
I have owned the android-internals.org and android-linux.org domains since last year, waiting for this day, and the former has a wiki already set up and available to be used for porting information (dunno whether Openmoko would or would not want Android porting info on wiki.openmoko.org ...).

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Jim Morris
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:52:02AM -0700, Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html At last maybe we will get a stable, usable O/S for the Neo Ya t'ink?

Re: [Qtextended] Bluetooth headset

2008-10-21 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thanks, I was testing the bluetooth connection today and realised that once you use the installed script to switch bluetooth off, there is no (known or easy) way to restart it except by rebooting the phone. Any feedback on

Re: [Debian/FSO] Reliable restart of zhone?

2008-10-21 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 21.10.2008, 11:21 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm having some issues with Zhone. Sometimes I cant answer a call, sometimes Zhone loses its connection with the gsm network withouth notifying me. Maybe the bugs are in Zhone, maybe they are in frameworkd, but how do I

Re: consider buying Neo Freerunner

2008-10-21 Thread Joop Boonen
The problems mentioned are do they occur in both qtopia as in OM2008? I understood that qtopia is more stable. If this is true why no make it dual boot, as is possible. Boot up in Qtopia when the phone has to be stable and when a problem is ok, boot up in OM2008? I'm going to order my

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Jim Ancona
Jim Morris wrote: I suspect there will be kernel work required, I'm more comfortable with Java so will work on that end, any volunteers to work on the kernel part of Android? I believe there was a working kernel port last year: http://benno.id.au/blog/2007/11/21/android-neo1973 The problem

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Jim Morris
Rod Whitby wrote: I have owned the android-internals.org and android-linux.org domains since last year, waiting for this day, and the former has a wiki already set up and available to be used for porting information (dunno whether Openmoko would or would not want Android porting info on

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Joel Newkirk
On 22 Oct 2008 07:09:00 +1030, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Pure eloquence... :) For a text-email reader, the only thing

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 01:41:20PM -0700, Jim Morris wrote: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:52:02AM -0700, Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html At last maybe we

Re: One more rotate version

2008-10-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:33:49PM +0200, Fabian Henze wrote: On 21.10.2008 at 22:26:41, Fabian Henze wrote: Hey guys, I have spend more time optimizing the code and fixing bugs of my previous release. So here are the changes compared with my previous version: - Fixed a memleak -

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Jim Morris
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 01:41:20PM -0700, Jim Morris wrote: Ya know I don't really care if it is open source or free source or commercial, so long as it is stable and actually works as a phone! I have a $400 toy at the moment which I would like to use as a

Re: consider buying Neo Freerunner

2008-10-21 Thread Warren Baird
I haven't tried Qtopia 4.3 - but I've tried using QTExtended (Qtopia 4.4) and had a lot of stability issues. I did see someone mention on this list that 4.3 was more stable, though... Warren On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Joop Boonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problems mentioned are do

Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Ken Young
Jim Morris wrote: [...] Ya know I don't really care if it is open source or free source or commercial, so long as it is stable and actually works as a phone! I have a $400 toy at the moment which I would like to use as a phone one day. I'll use anything that gets me closer to that goal.

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Jim Morris
Ken Young wrote: Jim Morris wrote: [...] Ya know I don't really care if it is open source or free source or commercial, so long as it is stable and actually works as a phone! I have a $400 toy at the moment which I would like to use as a phone one day. I'll use anything that gets me

Re: One more rotate version

2008-10-21 Thread Fabian Henze
Hi Fabian, I'm adding your changes, and we should agree on an indent style. After skimming indent(1) I propose to use indent -kr. Yeah indent should not be an issue. Just use whatever you think is good and I will use it from now on. I'm not giving up on the brightness thing unless I can be

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 03:23:56PM -0700, Jim Morris wrote: No magic, I suspect the kernel will be the same, and have potentially the same bugs, however I think the apps will be more stable. The apps won't be very stable if things like the accelerometers hang every so often... Rui --

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Lorn Potter
Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! At last maybe we will get a stable, usable O/S for the Neo (which I have shelved until such a thing exists). I was using Qt

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:20:04 -0400 Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: On Tuesday 21 October 2008 11:33:40 you wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo !

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:48:25 +0200 Didier Raboud [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: http://source.android.com/license/individual-contributor-license---android-open-source-project You have to grant your copyright to Google... I don't want to work non-paid for Google. But please do ! ;) i do agree

Re: One more rotate version

2008-10-21 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:24:31AM +0200, Fabian Henze wrote: Hi Fabian, I'm adding your changes, and we should agree on an indent style. After skimming indent(1) I propose to use indent -kr. Yeah indent should not be an issue. Just use whatever you think is good and I will use it

Re: community Digest, Vol 102, Issue 16

2008-10-21 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Wednesday 22 October 2008 07:07:14 Matthew Lane wrote: No, I have not tried the 512mb card (it's at home and I'm at college).   I'm not sure how to do what you're talking about arne, but you're suggesting that I can install a base system and put Debian on that?  Can you point me in the

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Jim Morris
Lorn Potter wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Just because 4.4.1 might be unstable doesn't mean qt extended will always be that way. It just means that 4.4.1 was buggier than expected. Oh I know it will get better, I was just disappointed it was less stable than the previous

Re: Anyone interested in mentoring?

2008-10-21 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Wednesday 22 October 2008 07:00:19 Jason Cawood wrote: I've owned my freerunner since july and have tinkered with it a lot trying out everything you guys throw out there. But I honestly don't know much about what I am doing... I'm to the point where I'd love to actually submit helpful bug

Re: [FSO-testing] Good news for 19/10/2008 image

2008-10-21 Thread yves mahe
Markus Schlichting wrote: Hi, found it ;-) FSO images can be found at http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-unstable/images/ Maybe you will prefer a more stable image : http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/images/ Friendly, Yves MAHE

Re: [OM2008.8 - testing] - no desktop icons any more.

2008-10-21 Thread Sarton O'Brien
On Wednesday 22 October 2008 03:33:04 Benedikt Schindler wrote: hi, is someone on the testing tree of the 2008.8 distro, and solved the icon problem yet? i upgraded to the latest testing 2008.8 packages. I know that there is a problem with the splash screen at boot up, that isn't solved

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread Lorn Potter
Jim Morris wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Just because 4.4.1 might be unstable doesn't mean qt extended will always be that way. It just means that 4.4.1 was buggier than expected. Oh I know it will get better, I was just disappointed it was less

Re: Android open sourced

2008-10-21 Thread ankostis
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Jim Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Morris wrote: Cédric Berger wrote: Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! Maybe we should setup a Neo branch on Androids GIT, and start

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