Re: [openmoko-announce] Some light ahead...

2007-06-14 Thread Hans van der Merwe
Tried that on openSUSE 10.2 Instructions do not work - after installing apt4rpm apt-get is not available?? On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 11:23 -0500, Steven ** wrote: Have you already find the MokoMakefile? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile -Steven On 6/12/07, Ivan -sk8- Chavero

Re: [openmoko-announce] Some light ahead...

2007-06-13 Thread Steven **
Have you already find the MokoMakefile? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MokoMakefile -Steven On 6/12/07, Ivan -sk8- Chavero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I want to start developing apps for openmoko but i haven't being able to find any tools for that. i have browsed the wiki, projects and

Re: [openmoko-announce] Some light ahead...

2007-06-13 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 12 June 2007 21:28, Ivan -sk8- Chavero wrote: Hello, I want to start developing apps for openmoko but i haven't being able to find any tools for that. i have browsed the wiki, projects and the other sections of the website and no luck. Instructions for building the full dev

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-05-11 Thread Duncan Hudson
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Finally, we've already begun moving production into one of our factories in mainland China. There are two runs scheduled now: May 10th and May 20th. We're going to take those runs a bit slow just to make sure the quality is high. And then starting in June, things can run

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-05-09 Thread Duncan Hudson
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: ... Finally, we've already begun moving production into one of our factories in mainland China. There are two runs scheduled now: May 10th and May 20th. We're going to take those runs a bit slow just to make sure the quality is high. And then starting in June, things can

Re: Anti Iphone (Was Re: Some light ahead...)

2007-05-04 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On 5/2/07, Casper van Donderen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mesdigital.com/english/Products/product_mmsp2.asp I think this chip is pretty opensource since it is used in the GP2X I don't want to pay money to micro$oft for wma support, so I do _not_ want that chip. Anyway I guess it is

Re: Anti Iphone (Was Re: Some light ahead...)

2007-05-04 Thread nitro
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: On 5/2/07, Casper van Donderen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mesdigital.com/english/Products/product_mmsp2.asp I think this chip is pretty opensource since it is used in the GP2X I don't want to pay money to micro$oft for wma support, so I do _not_

Re: Re: Anti Iphone (Was Re: Some light ahead...)

2007-05-02 Thread Casper van Donderen
Yeah the iPod video has a video chip But on the internet I read that the iPhone might go with the Samsung s3c2460 chip, That chip has a hardware video decoder on it. But I think another option could be the MagicEyes MMSP2 chip used in the GP2X linux handheld, that has hardware video (up to

Re: Anti Iphone (Was Re: Some light ahead...)

2007-05-01 Thread Steven **
The question is how well does the Neo handle video?. There was some discussion on the list a while back about this. Sounds like playing/decoding video will tax the processor pretty hard. I'm sure someone will get it working, but I got the impression it would take some skill. It would

Re: Anti Iphone (Was Re: Some light ahead...)

2007-05-01 Thread el jefe delito
Video would be a bit essential I would think... if an iPod can do it, shouldn't a mini computerphone be able to? If we want to compete with other touch phones and smart phones, video playback is a strong selling point. Not that I know how to make it happen at all... Maybe we can use code from

Re: Anti Iphone (Was Re: Some light ahead...)

2007-05-01 Thread Ian Stirling
Steven ** wrote: The question is how well does the Neo handle video?. There was some discussion on the list a while back about this. Sounds like playing/decoding video will tax the processor pretty hard. I'm sure someone will get it working, but I got the impression it would take some skill.

Re: Anti Iphone (Was Re: Some light ahead...)

2007-05-01 Thread Rory McCann
el jefe delito said the following on 01/05/07 15:03: Video would be a bit essential I would think... if an iPod can do it, shouldn't a mini computerphone be able to? AFAIK the video iPods have hardware decoding chips, so the iPod isn't decoding the video. Which is why they can only play

Re: Anti Iphone (Was Re: Some light ahead...)

2007-05-01 Thread Andrew Becherer
On 5/1/07, Rory McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: el jefe delito said the following on 01/05/07 15:03: Video would be a bit essential I would think... if an iPod can do it, shouldn't a mini computerphone be able to? AFAIK the video iPods have hardware decoding chips, so the iPod isn't decoding

Re: Anti Iphone (Was Re: Some light ahead...)

2007-04-30 Thread Steven **
On 4/29/07, Martin Lefkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an HTC wizard right now branded as cingular that I am running skype on. If I remember correctly I downloaded the software off the skype site for this handset. Does this mean it's approved or not approved? With your setup, it's a

Re: Anti Iphone (Was Re: Some light ahead...)

2007-04-30 Thread Jim Thompson
Steven ** wrote: On 4/29/07, Martin Lefkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an HTC wizard right now branded as cingular that I am running skype on. If I remember correctly I downloaded the software off the skype site for this handset. Does this mean it's approved or not approved? With

Re: Anti Iphone (Was Re: Some light ahead...)

2007-04-30 Thread adrian cockcroft
Slingbox currently can stream your home video system (including TiVo) to a computer or high speed (3G/WiFi) phone. It works well on laptops, and I've seen it demonstrated on phones and it looks quite good. This implies that its at least technically feasible to stream MythTV to a Neo. Adrian On

Anti Iphone (Was Re: Some light ahead...)

2007-04-29 Thread Martin Lefkowitz
I have an HTC wizard right now branded as cingular that I am running skype on. If I remember correctly I downloaded the software off the skype site for this handset. Does this mean it's approved or not approved? Wouldn't it be a problem for the FTC if Cingular didn't approve software like this

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-27 Thread Duncan Hudson
Ian Stirling wrote: As it is, it sounds like the first preorders (if that's still going to be done) are going to be delivered sometime May 20, if the screen problems are resolved. Leaving a couple of months dev time at best before there is something to show to carriers or phone shop chains if

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-27 Thread Duncan Hudson
Jim Thompson wrote: 1) the Openmoko-for-customers is slated for 9/11/07, so it was going to ship after the Q207 date for the iPhone in any case. It was supposed to be in developers enthusiasts hands back in February - was it not? The plan was to get the geek on board, get them writing apps

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-27 Thread Ian Stirling
Duncan Hudson wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: snip 4) Relax... you're not going to be able to add features to an iPhone. OSX is unix based, so you and I both know that one will be able to add apps to the iPhone. We also both know that for it to succeed in the business environment they'll have to

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-27 Thread Igor Foox
On 27-Apr-07, at 5:09 PM, Duncan Hudson wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: 1) the Openmoko-for-customers is slated for 9/11/07, so it was going to ship after the Q207 date for the iPhone in any case. It was supposed to be in developers enthusiasts hands back in February - was it not? The plan

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-27 Thread Jeff Andros
On 4/27/07, Igor Foox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what FIC's plans are for selling the phone through mobile providers in the future, but having 'average joe' buy the handset from FIC directly is _the_ major barier to wider distribution in my opinion. At least in North America, not

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-27 Thread Marcel de Jong
On 4/27/07, Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Duncan Hudson wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: snip 4) Relax... you're not going to be able to add features to an iPhone. OSX is unix based, so you and I both know that one will be able to add apps to the iPhone. We also both know that for it to

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-26 Thread Ian Stirling
Jim Thompson wrote: Duncan Hudson wrote: Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Finally, we've already begun moving production into one of our factories in mainland China. There are two runs scheduled now: May 10th and May 20th. We're going to take those runs a bit slow just to make sure the quality is high.

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-25 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 01:51:45 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Oh and Imre Kaloz gets a freed phone, too. Thanks for being the first to tell us about Atheros. We're almost for sure going to use their AR6K chipset in our next product. I just have to ask: is there any broad schedule / specs for the

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-25 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 08:26 +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: On Wednesday 25 April 2007 01:51:45 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Oh and Imre Kaloz gets a freed phone, too. Thanks for being the first to tell us about Atheros. We're almost for sure going to use their AR6K chipset in our next product.

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-25 Thread Clayton Jones
Thank you so much for the update! I was frantically searching for HW since i heard it would be available in March and thought i was missing out. Glad to know i didn't miss the boat! This is also my first post to the list - i've been reading as many as i can since joining about a week ago. Also

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-25 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11000 March 1977, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: We owe you all an update as to our status. Here it goes... Great news, thanks. -- bye Joerg _DeadBull_ ohne speicher, tastatur, mouse, pladde, monitor, also nur die Hardware... ___ OpenMoko

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-25 Thread Jim Thompson
Duncan Hudson wrote: Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Finally, we've already begun moving production into one of our factories in mainland China. There are two runs scheduled now: May 10th and May 20th. We're going to take those runs a bit slow just to make sure the quality is high. And then starting in

Some light ahead...

2007-04-24 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Dear Community, We owe you all an update as to our status. Here it goes... Last week we finished 200 devices. Of these about 50 seem to have some problems but the rest are functionally complete, tested, and ready to go. We know the source of the problems for the 50 that failed and this is

Some light ahead...

2007-04-24 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
This is great:) I think the core team has done a great job so far and I cannot wait to get a neo in my hands... ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-24 Thread Alex Rickabaugh
Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Hurray! This is fantastic news. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Not long now! This is my first post to this listserv by the way. I read

Re: Some light ahead...

2007-04-24 Thread Joe Friedrichsen
I'm certainly grateful for all of the lost sleep and long flights. Thanks for your diligence! I'm eagerly awaiting the pre-order stage and news about the phase 1.5 discount ;-) sigh... you give a meter, we take a mile. Joe ___ OpenMoko community