Re: Reasons why people could be interested in this community

ave been available on request. Sure thing, and I wasn't to suggest otherwise. I also completely understand that nobody will hand out production process details to somebody who has not a single good reason why they are needed by him/her, except for cloning. When I get me an icecream cone at

Re: Reasons why people could be interested in this community

On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 16:12 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > But start on the green field (yes, as prepared by Openmoko) as we > have done. Why? Why do you want people to "start on the green field" rather than building on your work? -- Bob Ham for (

Re: Reasons why people could be interested in this community

Am 24.08.2013 um 13:36 schrieb joerg Reisenweber: > On Sat 24 August 2013 13:00:45 Bob Ham wrote: >> On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 09:56 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >>>> Why are you still a member of this community >> >> I want freedom. I want a phone that r

Re: Reasons why people could be interested in this community

On Sat 24 August 2013 13:00:45 Bob Ham wrote: > On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 09:56 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > > Why are you still a member of this community > > I want freedom. I want a phone that runs 100% free software, including > any firmware for component devic

Re: Reasons why people could be interested in this community

On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 09:56 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > Why are you still a member of this community I want freedom. I want a phone that runs 100% free software, including any firmware for component devices and also including firmware running on the baseband processor.

Re: Reasons why people could be interested in this community

that there is *no* money was mentioned. Here you > >>>>>> seem to be implying some kind of transition from there being > >>>>>> no money to money being available. How is that transition > >>>>>> going to happen? What's going to cause the g

Re: Reasons why people could be interested in this community

; to cause the green light to go on? >>>>> >>>>> People deciding to spend some money instead of complaining that it is >>>>> too expensive. >>>> >>>> What is going to cause people to decide that? >>> >>> What d

[PIM] Reasons why we should use New instead of MessageRead

Greetings, Currently, MessageRead is used in the messages domain to indicate a message has been read, that is, it's not new. Together with the help and support of TAsn, we decided to change it to New. Couple of advantages in the new naming: 1. Most of the messages in the database are read, so kee

Re: Gprs sent and receive random byte. WHY?

data and closing the ppp0 connection whenever I must send byte.Do you think it's a good idea? -- View this message in context: http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/Gprs-sent-and-receive-random-byte-WHY-tp5194278p5203326.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archi

Re: Gprs sent and receive random byte. WHY?

Just a thought - perhaps this is just a server trying to reach the previous user/owner of your dynamic IP? :) stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Gprs sent and receive random byte. WHY?

to belive it is a strategy of my provider. Regards Dan -- View this message in context: http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/Gprs-sent-and-receive-random-byte-WHY-tp5194278p5196588.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: Gprs sent and receive random byte. WHY?

Hi Shosholoza, No time to panic, just time to get a new provider ;-) Why would they send netbios sessions up your ppp link? Especially when you are neither the sender or receiver of that session. I think a firewall would be nice to have anyway, but as long as your provider is sending you garbage

Re: Gprs sent and receive random byte. WHY?

m 0x026d (correct), seq 0, ack 1, win 0, length 0 ^C 16 packets captured 16 packets received by filter 0 packets dropped by kernel The IP Address of my PC was 79.46.207.142 It is time for panic? :) I need of a firewall into my Freerunner? -- View this message in context: http://openmoko-public-mailin

Re: Gprs sent and receive random byte. WHY?

Higlight me in irc://irc.freenode.net/#openmoko-cdevel my nickname is there leviathan :-) regards leviathan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org ht

Re: Gprs sent and receive random byte. WHY?

If it's inbound traffic then there's just so much you can do about it. So first step: tcpdump and see what's going on /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.o

Re: Gprs sent and receive random byte. WHY?

ilinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/Gprs-sent-and-receive-random-byte-WHY-tp5194278p5194807.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Gprs sent and receive random byte. WHY?

>Someone Root-kited my phone? It is possible. Possible yes. But like I said. Unlikely :-) So first of all: Don't panic >I am tryng to set a firewall. If it would be root-kited even I firewall wouldn't do any good. >Do you think it is a good idea? So I can open only the port I use. >Where I can fi

Re: Gprs sent and receive random byte. WHY?

openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958.n2.nabble.com/Gprs-sent-and-receive-random-byte-WHY-tp5194278p5194411.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lis

Re: Gprs sent and receive random byte. WHY?

Perhaps someone root-kited your phone? Its very unlikely but not impossible. Or you have avahi running, and you didn't teach it to NOT use ppp0 :-) regards leviathan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmo

Re: Gprs sent and receive random byte. WHY?

Hi Shosholoza, You could use tcpdump and analyze what the traffic is you are seeing. That would give you a hint why there is data transmitted over your gprs connection. I hop this will help you. Kind regards, Ed On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 00:16 -0700, Shosholoza wrote: > I have a recent but not

Gprs sent and receive random byte. WHY?

I have a recent but not the last unstable shr lite. When I connect with gprs my Freerunner,randomly, receive and send a lot of byte. Why this? Can I stop this? I would like understand. Any suggest will be appreciated. -- View this message in context: http://openmoko-public-mailinglists.1958

Re: why not xip?

Bartlomiej Zimon writes: >> Bartlomiej Zimon wrote: >> > I want ask why we not use execution in place? >> >> At the risk of maximizing technical accuracy while minimizing >> usefulness of the response, this is of course precisely what >> happens when you

Re: why not xip?

Dnia 1 maja 2010 16:05 Werner Almesberger napisał(a): > Bartlomiej Zimon wrote: > > I want ask why we not use execution in place? > > At the risk of maximizing technical accuracy while minimizing > usefulness of the response, this is of course precisely what > happens w

Re: why not xip?

Bartlomiej Zimon wrote: > I want ask why we not use execution in place? At the risk of maximizing technical accuracy while minimizing usefulness of the response, this is of course precisely what happens when you boot from NOR :-) - Werner ___ Openm

Re: why not xip?

On Sat, 01 May 2010 15:12:00 +0200 Bartlomiej Zimon said: > Hi all! > > I want ask why we not use execution in place? > Is is possible in Neo - i think it could work only on flash? > It could improve some things e.g. booting and apps launching. > > What do You think? it d

why not xip?

Hi all! I want ask why we not use execution in place? Is is possible in Neo - i think it could work only on flash? It could improve some things e.g. booting and apps launching. What do You think? Best regards Bart. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Forking TangoGPS - a digest why this is a silly fork

i happen to think it's an interesting discussion. you are of course free to unsubscribe. (or set up your mail filter lists into a different folder, and use a threaded view, then ignore threads that aren't interesting to you - I'd be happy to help you do this) xx Tim jeremy jozwik wrote: > fo

Re: Forking TangoGPS - a digest why this is a silly fork

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:17 AM, neomilium wrote: for craps sake stop filling my mailbox with this nonsense! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Forking TangoGPS - a digest why this is a silly fork

norance, you're right. So, why would I reply to this mail, huh ? Because, I want to share my enthusiasm to see a tangoGPS fork born... finally. 2010/4/14 Marcus Bauer : > I certainly haven't had the intent to add another post to this but > because the parent post is featured

Re: Forking TangoGPS - a digest why this is a silly fork

I certainly haven't had the intent to add another post to this but because the parent post is featured on fsdaily and people following that link there want a quick reply: * tangoGPS is committed to quality and excellent user expierence is the key of the development focus * tangoGPS is open

Re: [Shr-User] why GPS is not in resources list ? (devs see framewrokd log)

In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful hello; Problem solved . it occured with bad device name in /var/log/frameworkd.log Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: why GPS is not in resources list ? (devs see framewrokd log)

On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 13:37 +0330, dehqan65 wrote: > In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful > > hello; > > OS : SHR testing (Rootfs ver.) > App : Navit that is installed with opkg instal navit . (ver. 0.2.0) > FR : A7 > > Regards dehqan > Does it work without navit? - settings/location/

Re: why GPS is not in resources list ? (devs see framewrokd log)

In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful hello; OS : SHR testing (Rootfs ver. ) App : Navit that is installed with opkg instal navit . (ver. 0.2.0) FR : A7 Regards dehqan __

Re: why GPS is not in resources list ? (devs see framewrokd log)

2010/1/5 dehqan65 : > This is frameworkd.log > http://pastebin.com/me4626ff > > Traceback : > > KeyError: '/dev/ttySAC1' >  gpsdev = globals()[devname]( controller.bus, channel ) What software are you using on your Freerunner? Googling shows a few cases of the ogsmd factory method failing, but t

why GPS is not in resources list ? (devs see framewrokd log)

In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful Hello; This is frameworkd.log > http://pastebin.com/me4626ff Traceback : KeyError: '/dev/ttySAC1' gpsdev = globals()[devname]( controller.bus, channel ) Also : r...@om-gta02 ~ $ mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage \ > org

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 22:00, Paul Fertser wrote: > Qi is really simple and (almost) clean, and it can boot kernels. I > don't understand why you think one should want to maintain huge and > complex u-boot instead of small simple Qi. It boots kernels -> good > enough. KIS

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

Hi, On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Petr Vanek wrote: > > how well do you want to have it published? :) A howto that explains every step needed to put it al together would be nice. Example: - where would the "menu partition" live? On SD crd or on NAND? - how do I install the whole deal? >

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

>FWIW, the link works for me (now). The subject of the thread is "Touch >based Dual Boot Menu". >The thread is from March this year, it includes a couple of examples, >one have a screenshot of a working menu. how well do you want to have it published? :) the thread mentions all that is needed to a

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

Am 26.09.2009 um 10:20 schrieb Dave Ball: > Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> What I wonder is why nobody did fix u-boot if it had problems with >> bigger kernels. >> > I'm just a bystander here, but from what I understood this wasn't the > reason Qi

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > What > > you _can_ do is construct a mini Linux environment that provides a boot > > menu / usb-dfu, and is booted by Qi in the normal way. This would place > > those tools in regular Linux userspace, i.e. much more accessible to

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

of Linux drivers to u-boot which doesn't make much > sense when you can boot Linux, the kernel directly. So why doesn't Qi do that? Qi also has drivers for PMU, NAND flash, SD card, file systems, etc. Why not boot a kernel directly? > Lack of menu with initramfs says imho that no

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

Hi, On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen < ccc94...@vip.cybercity.dk> wrote: > On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 10:36:54AM +0100, George Brooke wrote: > > > There was a thread on the devel list see here: > > http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1980163%7Ca1980163 > >Tha

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 10:36:54AM +0100, George Brooke wrote: > > There was a thread on the devel list see here: > > http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1980163%7Ca1980163 > >That link isn't working, it just gives a nearly blank page. It worked for me in Firefox, but not in konq

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

> What > you _can_ do is construct a mini Linux environment that provides a boot > menu / usb-dfu, and is booted by Qi in the normal way. This would place > those tools in regular Linux userspace, i.e. much more accessible to > regular non kernel / bootloader hackers. This could be the default or

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 10:36:54AM +0100, George Brooke wrote: > There was a thread on the devel list see here: > http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1980163%7Ca1980163 That link isn't working, it just gives a nearly blank page. -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires add

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

> u-boot being slower to boot. Just FYI. I was involved in recent MontaVista's boot-in-one-second presentation. That demo did use u-boot (although somewhat changes) in the one-second boot process. Kernel got control there in about 0.3 seconds since poweron. So claim that u-boot is unable to do t

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

doned it > > - instead they created Qi to be newer, better, faster and so on > > - Qi isn't living up to promises for users > > > > I'm not saying that such a view is correct, but that is how it can > > look like from a users view. > > What I wond

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

On Saturday 26 September 2009 10:12:59 Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > What > > you _can_ do is construct a mini Linux environment that provides a boot > > menu / usb-dfu, and is booted by Qi in the normal way. This would place > > those tools in regular Linux userspace, i.e. much more accessible

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

Am 26.09.2009 um 11:12 schrieb Nikita V. Youshchenko: >> What >> you _can_ do is construct a mini Linux environment that provides a >> boot >> menu / usb-dfu, and is booted by Qi in the normal way. This would >> place >> those tools in regular Linux userspace, i.e. much more accessible to >>

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

t; - Qi isn't living up to promises for users >> >> I'm not saying that such a view is correct, but that is how it can >> look like from a users view. > > What I wonder is why nobody did fix u-boot if it had problems with > bigger kernels. It didn't. > M

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

Dave Ball writes: ... > There's a philosophical difference between the two projects, and I think > Qi's approach is much better suited to this kind of hardware, than > u-boot could ever be (with trunk, or with the existing gripes resolved). Great thanks for this clear and complete explanation.

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > What I wonder is why nobody did fix u-boot if it had problems with > bigger kernels. > I'm just a bystander here, but from what I understood this wasn't the reason Qi was started. u-boot is an entire environment that needs drivers for a l

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

;t living up to promises for users > > I'm not saying that such a view is correct, but that is how it can > look like from a users view. What I wonder is why nobody did fix u-boot if it had problems with bigger kernels. And adding stateless boot from the rootfs would be nice to ha

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

I > > bet trying and tweaking all distros including Qtopia, Qtmoko, Android, > > H:1 etc etc took them 10x time required to build a minimal > > bootmenu. > > Well, this (statements like those above) is why the shoemaker's children is > still running around barefoot. :-) &g

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

ot anything other that the default (first) > partition on my SD card. Like this: - I don't press anything, the > default partition gets booted - I press AUX (hopefully at the right > time), and Qi never finshes booting anything (not in 5 - 10 minutes > anyway). Why don't you a

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

etc etc took them 10x time required to build a minimal > bootmenu. > Well, this (statements like those above) is why the shoemaker's children is still running around barefoot. :-) (For those not catching the reference - the shoemaker can make shoes for his children at any time, he just ne

Re: U-Boot improvements? (Was: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?)

Am 25.09.2009 um 08:46 schrieb Jose Luis Perez Diez: > El Friday, 25 de September de 2009 06:37:19 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller > va > escriure: >> Am 24.09.2009 um 22:44 schrieb Rask Ingemann Lambertsen: >>> >>> I tried to merge the two trees a couple of months ago, but the >>> NAND flash >>> cod

Re: U-Boot improvements? (Was: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?)

El Friday, 25 de September de 2009 06:37:19 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller va escriure: > Am 24.09.2009 um 22:44 schrieb Rask Ingemann Lambertsen: > > > > I tried to merge the two trees a couple of months ago, but the > > NAND flash > > code has changed so much that merging in the 2442 support require

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

Rask Ingemann Lambertsen writes: > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:36:43AM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: >> Torfinn Ingolfsen writes: >> > Qi _will_ need to be improved until it is usable for end users, or >> > it will fade away >> >> I really can't understand the desire to multi-boot. > >What does

Re: U-Boot improvements? (Was: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?)

Am 24.09.2009 um 22:44 schrieb Rask Ingemann Lambertsen: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 08:08:53PM +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller > wrote: > >> No, except that it is not really "u-boot" but a 2 years old fork that >> is now no longer maintained. > > I tried to merge the two trees a couple of mont

Re: U-Boot improvements? (Was: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?)

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 08:08:53PM +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > No, except that it is not really "u-boot" but a 2 years old fork that > is now no longer maintained. I tried to merge the two trees a couple of months ago, but the NAND flash code has changed so much that merging in

Re: U-Boot improvements? (Was: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?)

Am 24.09.2009 um 19:36 schrieb Rask Ingemann Lambertsen: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 04:18:30PM +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen < >> ccc94...@vip.cybercity.dk> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:11:04PM +, Niels Heyvaert wrote:

U-Boot improvements? (Was: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?)

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 04:18:30PM +0200, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen < > ccc94...@vip.cybercity.dk> wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:11:04PM +, Niels Heyvaert wrote: > > > > > The idea of having a simple GUI boot loader could be

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

On Thursday 24 September 2009, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen < > > ccc94...@vip.cybercity.dk> wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:11:04PM +, Niels Heyvaert wrote: > > > The idea of having a simple GUI boot loader could be very use

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

Hi, On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen < ccc94...@vip.cybercity.dk> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:11:04PM +, Niels Heyvaert wrote: > > > The idea of having a simple GUI boot loader could be very useful... > >We have one. It's called U-Boot. Or am I missing som

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

Hi, On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen < ccc94...@vip.cybercity.dk> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:11:04PM +, Niels Heyvaert wrote: > > > The idea of having a simple GUI boot loader could be very useful... > >We have one. It's called U-Boot. Or am I missing som

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:36:43AM +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: > Torfinn Ingolfsen writes: > > Qi _will_ need to be improved until it is usable for end users, or > > it will fade away > > I really can't understand the desire to multi-boot. What does it matter if you understand anybody elses de

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:11:04PM +, Niels Heyvaert wrote: > The idea of having a simple GUI boot loader could be very useful... We have one. It's called U-Boot. Or am I missing something? -- Rask Ingemann Lambertsen Danish law requires addresses in e-mail to be logged and stored for a

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

Warren Baird writes: > I have a slightly more interesting issue - my aux button doesn't > work any more after my daughter dropped my FR one too many > times... Judging by experience i guess most probably everything is undamaged, there were numerous reports of failing AUX button after bad drops bu

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Paul Fertser wrote: > I really can't understand the desire to multi-boot. And btw the recent > poll proved that most users use Qi IIRC. A clear evidence it's already > usable for them. > here's a couple of use cases: 1 I have a working shr-u install on my phone

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

Al Johnson writes: > This limitation is one of the reasons I'm still using u-boot. The > other is the inability to pass optional kernel parameters when booting > from NAND. Why not have something like grub in the boot?. With a keyboard added, nothing could be more flexible. --

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote (ao): >On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Al Johnson ><[1]openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > I believe it's an arbitrary limit based on the assumption that with no > gui it > would be hard to select the intended partition. Given the touble people

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

On Tuesday 22 September 2009, Paul Fertser wrote: > Torfinn Ingolfsen writes: > > Qi _will_ need to be improved until it is usable for end users, or > > it will fade away > > I really can't understand the desire to multi-boot. And btw the recent > poll proved that most users use Qi IIRC. A clear e

RE: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

e it's already > usable for them. Perhaps because the Openmoko Wiki urges people to switch to Qi, with fact based argumentation, is one of the main reasons why so many people use it. Some of us are challenged by getting Qi to do what it is advertised to do. Technically, Qi allows multiboot, b

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

Torfinn Ingolfsen writes: > Qi _will_ need to be improved until it is usable for end users, or > it will fade away I really can't understand the desire to multi-boot. And btw the recent poll proved that most users use Qi IIRC. A clear evidence it's already usable for them. -- Be free, use free

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

ights and push buttons" scheme doesn't matter. One way or the other, Qi must improve. > This limitation is one of the reasons I'm still using u-boot. The other is > the > inability to pass optional kernel parameters when booting from NAND. > Hmm, why can't this

Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

On Tuesday 22 September 2009, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > Hello, > > Is there any specific reason why Qi[1] only tries to boot from partition 1 > - 3 when ther csn be 4 (four) primary prtitons on a SD card? > Or is it just developer eccentrics or programmer laziness? :-) > >

Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?

Hello, Is there any specific reason why Qi[1] only tries to boot from partition 1 - 3 when ther csn be 4 (four) primary prtitons on a SD card? Or is it just developer eccentrics or programmer laziness? :-) References: 1) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen

Re: Why frameworkd starts automatically playing ringtone, aka. how to debug frameworkd?

On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:46:01PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > On 9/7/09, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:06:49PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > >> while: CallListContains("incoming") > >> filters: Not(CallListContains("active")) > >> ac

Re: Why frameworkd starts automatically playing ringtone, aka. how to debug frameworkd?

On 9/7/09, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:06:49PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: >> while: CallListContains("incoming") >> filters: Not(CallListContains("active")) >> actions: >> - RingTone() >> >> I think that's the part of rules.yaml yo

Re: Why frameworkd starts automatically playing ringtone, aka. how to debug frameworkd?

On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:06:49PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > while: CallListContains("incoming") > filters: Not(CallListContains("active")) > actions: > - RingTone() > > I think that's the part of rules.yaml you want to see ;) Would a finer tailored rule set

Re: Why frameworkd starts automatically playing ringtone, aka. how to debug frameworkd?

On 9/7/09, Laszlo KREKACS wrote: > Hi! > > It looks like frameworkd plays the ringtone file by itself. > I requested before it in the program, but always got AlreadyPlaying > exception. > > I checked the rules.yaml file, but there is no rule for playing ringtone. > I also observed the dbus line us

Why frameworkd starts automatically playing ringtone, aka. how to debug frameworkd?

Hi! It looks like frameworkd plays the ringtone file by itself. I requested before it in the program, but always got AlreadyPlaying exception. I checked the rules.yaml file, but there is no rule for playing ringtone. I also observed the dbus line using mdbus -l -s, but it does not print out from

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke? (latest whining thread)

Did a 3000+km roadtrip a while ago; navigated with FR to my destination (navit) searched for lakes or woods nearby to camp in (tangogps) checked out the constellations (orrery) converted different currencies (mokoconv) listened to music in the car by connecting the FR to the car-radio (intone and c

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke? (latest whining thread)

Because July is so boring month, joining the latest complains thread. Btw, I just came back from a week's trip where FreeRunner was absolutely a gem to have. GPS was trustworthy, I was able to backup photos from camera to Neo via USB host mode (and onwards to USB stick or over WLAN/SSH to home comp

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Nicola Mfb wrote: [..] > So it works for me (some random kernel ops), and works for you, but > saying WiFi works fine on freerunner may seems a joke IMHO. I was lucky, just now my FR crashed with om2009 while trying to using wifi: Unable to handle kernel NULL poi

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 6:24 AM, William Kenworthy wrote: [...] > BT as A2DP (music playback) works for me using a motorola S9 headset. > Have not tried to get GSM working through it yet.  wifi works well, > except I find it quite insensitive compared to most laptops in direct > comparison (I use w

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

er was pointed as end-user device > I'm really for the idea of freeing the phone (thats why I bought one), free > hardware and the community. And I really loved to see this effort to succeed. > But I came to realize that I start to hate this sluggish, instable device > without goo

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

mobi phil writes: > > So... my question is ... is it a joke [...] > In this case I would really advice people to refrain in buying the > openmoko, and better go for glofiish M800, that has a keyboard and > radio as plus ... and that, it appears, also has a $300 higher MSRP. Almost twice as much a

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 16:38 -0400, David Ford wrote: > i don't know where you got this information, but by far and large the OM > phones have never been touted as ready for end users by OM, or by the > developers working on the neo1973 or freerunner software. > Actually - when first released it wa

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

as touted as a real > phone for end-users back then and being a happy Linux-User for 14 years, I > thought that I could live with some minor flaws... > > I'm really for the idea of freeing the phone (thats why I bought one), free > hardware and the community. And I really loved

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ry-hungry) nor as a PDA (no usable software available). So I > really regret my decision to buy it. But then again, it was touted as a real > phone for end-users back then and being a happy Linux-User for 14 years, I > thought that I could live with some minor flaws... > > I&#x

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ainers will have time to improve it (and above all a copy of NDA documentation :), while I cannot guess if there is now community effort on GSM and other chips firmware. [...] > > I'm really for the idea of freeing the phone (thats why I bought one), free > hardware and the communit

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On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Joerg Lippmann wrote: > Sorry, but after a year of waiting I still have an expensive brick that I > can > neither use as a proper phone (speaker still WAY to low, too unstable, too > slow, too battery-hungry) nor as a PDA (no usable software available). So I > real

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one for end-users back then and being a happy Linux-User for 14 years, I > thought that I could live with some minor flaws... > > I'm really for the idea of freeing the phone (thats why I bought one), free > hardware and the community. And I really loved to see this effort to > su

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

turn it up. unstable? have you updated software on it? currently i am now dealing with the ar6000 kernel wedging and ophonekitd crashing on every other event. otherwise it's pretty stable. too slow? yes, it's slow. see numerous other discussions on this for the reasons why. can

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

(no usable software available). So I > really regret my decision to buy it. But then again, it was touted as a real > phone for end-users back then and being a happy Linux-User for 14 years, I > thought that I could live with some minor flaws... > > I'm really for the idea of f

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

Linux-User for 14 years, I thought that I could live with some minor flaws... I'm really for the idea of freeing the phone (thats why I bought one), free hardware and the community. And I really loved to see this effort to succeed. But I came to realize that I start to hate this sluggish

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:30:29 -0700 Ben Wong wrote: > Thank you, Maddog, for your trenchant comment. I was having trouble > verbalizing a response to mobiphil, but you've hit it exactly. To > consider Openmoko a failure for having lower GPU performance is to > misunderstand what Openmoko is abou

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Jon 'maddog' Hall wrote: > Hello mobiphil, > >>and use those phones as reference...Again, M800 has >>keyboard, very usefull for a linux phone. Only drawback, it has only >>64megs memory, but better have less applications running smoother, than >>several slower... So

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