Re: Terminal for ASU

2008-07-22 Thread Holger Freyther
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 05:56:41 Jacob Peterson wrote: > Ken, I too feel your pain. I had just stated to get things setup, then I > decided to update and to my surprise, all applications requiring a keyboard > are now useless. I ended up reverting back to the July 21st snapshot for > now, but I

Re: Terminal for ASU

2008-07-22 Thread Holger Freyther
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 05:32:34 Stroller wrote: > After all the efforts that Openmoko have made over being open, I am > just amazed that design decisions that affect everyone are being made > in secret. Check the openmoko-devel/disto-devel archives from back then. Sure the decision was made "

Re: Terminal for ASU

2008-07-22 Thread Holger Freyther
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 03:39:54 Ken Restivo wrote: > Can someone document what hacks are available to bring the Illume keyboard > back, and to manually trigger it with that little "qwerty" button that used > to be there, in case the designers decide they don't want users to be able > to type th

Re: OSCON get together

2008-07-22 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008, Sameer Verma wrote: > I will be there as well. Great - email me off-list and let's chat about setting up a BOF or something. (-: -- Asheesh. -- You are dishonest, but never to the point of hurting a friend. ___ Openmoko communi

Re: Terminal for ASU

2008-07-22 Thread Jacob Peterson
Ken, I too feel your pain. I had just stated to get things setup, then I decided to update and to my surprise, all applications requiring a keyboard are now useless. I ended up reverting back to the July 21st snapshot for now, but I will try editing the illume theme and rebuilding once I can loca

Re: Terminal for ASU

2008-07-22 Thread Stroller
On 22 Jul 2008, at 14:36, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >> ... >> Sorry to trouble you, but who are these designers, please? > > i'll let them speak up if they wish to be part of a debate on this. > it's up to > them. I'd be grateful if someone @openmoko could be a bit transparent abo

Re: the answering machine

2008-07-22 Thread Stroller
On 20 Jul 2008, at 05:13, Frederik Sdun wrote: > ... > I'm one of the GSoC students and work on the answering machine. ... Hi there, Is there any page on the Wiki about your work? I'm posting a fair bit to the documentation mailing list at present and today discovered this page: http://wiki.o

Re: Rules based policy engine

2008-07-22 Thread Matt Joyce
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 6:41 AM, Frederik Sdun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm one of the GSoC students and work on the answering machine. I > already use this concept in my project and it uses modules so it might > be possible to extend it to fit your needs. It's implemented in vala so >

fledgling open source web tablet project.... similar to moko business model

2008-07-22 Thread JW
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/07/21/we-want-a-dead-simple-web-tablet-help-us-build-it/ so steve, which other products are YOU going to bring us (joke, i know you have hands somewhat full at the moment ) jw ___ Openmoko community mailing list commun

Re: Terminal for ASU

2008-07-22 Thread Ken Restivo
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:36:27PM +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:05:48 +0100 Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > babbled: > > > > > On 21 Jul 2008, at 19:47, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > ... > > > the problem is the designers decided that ASU is not to have a

Re: Terminal for ASU

2008-07-22 Thread Ken Restivo
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 09:01:24AM +0200, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9dric_Berger_ wrote: > Indeed I fail to see the advantage of having no manual triggering of keyboard. > On my desktop PC, I have never dreamt of my keyboard popping out of a > drawer when it thinks I should need it... > > And this morning

New Freerunner User - Stick with GTK & Any voicemail apps or monitors?

2008-07-22 Thread Alex Fitzpatrick
I'm not going to have much time for playing with the toolchain for a while, so for now I'm trying to use my freerunner as a replacement for my existing GSM phone. (A Motorola v551 that's getting long in the tooth) So far, given that this thing is effectively an open beta, I'm very impressed (an

Re: Why is Qtopia much faster?

2008-07-22 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Tilman Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I might do qtopia more wrong than is fair. But they modelling just a > regular smart phone like you can get from most vendors. > With a very closed (but opensource) framework wich you can develop for. > > You can not port

Re: Anyone using FR as a phone?

2008-07-22 Thread Ben
Is bluetooth working to the degree where a bluetooth headset can be used instead? While it isn't perfect, I have an Aliph JawBone headset and it works reasonably well when there's no wind around. Also have a Sony Ericsson HBH 300 but people always say I sound too quiet - maybe I could amplify the

Re: Why is Qtopia much faster?

2008-07-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:38:35 +1000 Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > and so from that point of view - qtopia would be a loser as it has many > > fewer apps written for it than general X11. :) > > No, because it is easy to make a Qt app into a Qtopia app. > two or three line change in t

VTE font size

2008-07-22 Thread Ken Restivo
How can I adjust the font size in the VTE terminal? I'm using it with the ASU. Is it the same xrdb/.Xresources style way that is used on, say, xterm or rxvt? There doesn't appear to be any options menu or other settings available for VTE. The default font is too big though, there's not even enou

Re: Why is Qtopia much faster?

2008-07-22 Thread Lorn Potter
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:36:06 +1000 Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > >>> i guess i just don't lik the idea of a thin vertical stack where at each >>> layer 1 choice has been made for me and i'm stuck with it, like it or not, >>> or i move to a who

Re: GPS software fix, just CRUFT?

2008-07-22 Thread ian douglas
Scott Derrick wrote: > With the GPS hardware fix done(10pf cap installed) are the software > changes to the kernel/modules just added cruft? IE. do they add > anything useful? They save people from destroying their Freerunners trying to do some amateur-level soldering or ordering incorrect capac

Re: Why is Qtopia much faster?

2008-07-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:36:06 +1000 Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > i guess i just don't lik the idea of a thin vertical stack where at each > > layer 1 choice has been made for me and i'm stuck with it, like it or not, > > or i move to a whole different stack. eg - must use qt, or mus

Re: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-22 Thread Michael Shiloh
I have not had time to test any. But I could. M steve wrote: > Michael do you have any phones that fail GPS test? > > -Original Message- > From: Michael Shiloh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:10 PM > To: steve > Cc: 'Joerg Reisenweber'; community@lists.openmo

RE: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-22 Thread steve
Michael do you have any phones that fail GPS test? -Original Message- From: Michael Shiloh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 10:10 PM To: steve Cc: 'Joerg Reisenweber'; community@lists.openmoko.org; 'C R McClenaghan'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Andy Green Subject: Re: GTA02 G

Re: Operation without battery (GTA02)

2008-07-22 Thread Jim Morris
Andy Green wrote: > Jeffrey, if you are interested about what the battery experiences, there > are a bunch of goodies from the Coulomb Counter in the battery > accessible down /sys/class/power_supply/bat, just cat them. These tell > you the battery's view of what is going on directly. > > # cat

Re: FreeBSD / dfu-util

2008-07-22 Thread Ben Cadieux
> Which FreeBSD version and arch (i386? amd64?) 6.3-STABLE for i386 - I've tried on two machines. My home machine is 7.0 -- I'll have to try it when I'm home. > Did you just follow the OS X procedure, or something else? Actually I followed the Linux instructions and then noticed I got the same

Re: FreeBSD / dfu-util

2008-07-22 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Ben Cadieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I got dfu-util to compile using the OSX patch for endian.h & byteswap.h. Which FreeBSD version and arch (i386? amd64?) Did you just follow the OS X procedure, or something else? > developers of som

Re: Why is Qtopia much faster?

2008-07-22 Thread Lorn Potter
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:38:35 +1000 Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > >>> Well, a almost desktop compliant x11 system with a wide variety of >>> frameworks, libs and programming languages. >> It will be hard to achieve a consistent look and feel

Re: [Qtopia] roaming - manual selection not working

2008-07-22 Thread Cédric Berger
not so easy to try since at home I do not have access to roaming network... but when I try to select manual search mode (while yet connected) from the Network selection menu, which fails, log shows : AT+COPS=1,2,0 +CME ERROR: 3 so it looks like the AT+COPS=1,2,0 is wrong : last number should have

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread NeilBrown
On Wed, July 23, 2008 1:42 am, Alexey Feldgendler wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:34:58 +0200, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I guess you're not a kernel coder... not only is the segment for these >> definitively zero at start of kernel, but it is an offence against >> ./scripts/checkpa

Re: Why is Qtopia much faster?

2008-07-22 Thread Jim Morris
I just played with Qt Jambi the Trolltech Java UI SDK for Java. It looks good, but will it work under Qtopia? Or only under Qt/X11? I have Jalimo loaded on the FR and of course non of the graphics libs they provide work because they are GTK/X11, so what does it take to use Java to write an app

Re: Rules based policy engine

2008-07-22 Thread Frederik Sdun
Hi, I'm one of the GSoC students and work on the answering machine. I already use this concept in my project and it uses modules so it might be possible to extend it to fit your needs. It's implemented in vala so you can use all GLib functionality and more. As far as you can create vala bindings f

Re: debugging pppd

2008-07-22 Thread Michael Kluge
OK, found it myself. A different syslog.conf helps. Michael Michael Kluge schrieb: > Hi, > > has anyone experience debugging pppd profiles? I have a profile > (attached) for the German provider "simyo" (eplus reseller). The chat > script "/etc/ppp/simyo-connect-chat" suceeds and I get the mess

Re: Clock Configuration Question

2008-07-22 Thread Steven **
That would be a feature of the openmoko-clock package. As far as I know, there are no configuration options for that app. -Steven On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:31 AM, reaper527 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have my clock configured to the proper date/time, however I was hoping to > set it up as

Re: Problems with building openmoko-sample with toolchain

2008-07-22 Thread Stephen Pape
Thanks, I'm going to try this. But I just don't understand, I'd think having a working toolchain would be a high priority. -Stephen On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 4:06 AM, Andreas Dalsgaard < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/7/22 Dylan Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Haven't been able to get the patc

syslog.conf

2008-07-22 Thread Michael Kluge
Hi, could someone please give me a pointer to the structure of the /etc/syslog.conf? It looks neither like a normal syslog.conf (http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl5_syslogc.htm) nor like the syslog-ng I am used to. Michael ___ Openmoko co

debugging pppd

2008-07-22 Thread Michael Kluge
Hi, has anyone experience debugging pppd profiles? I have a profile (attached) for the German provider "simyo" (eplus reseller). The chat script "/etc/ppp/simyo-connect-chat" suceeds and I get the message "Serial connection established". pppd itself is started with 'debug' and 'nodetach'. Afte

Re: FreeBSD / dfu-util

2008-07-22 Thread Ben Cadieux
> it might be a stupid comment, but have you booted the freerunner in NOR? > Yes, I held AUX while turning on, got the boot menu with [NOR] next to it and booted up. I assume everything went okay. I wasn't expecting to be back in the GUI and using the phone as usual, but that's how it is. Best R

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-22 Thread arne anka
> I'm really quite surprised it managed to ship in this condition, when > the fix is fundamentally a hardware one. yikes. i think your record is broken ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailma

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-22 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Edward A. Falk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You do NOT get tech support like this anywhere else. Those of you > pounding your virtual fists on the table and demanding a fix *right now* > are out of line. The OpenMoko team is obviously working on it; give > them a

Re: Import contacts qtopia

2008-07-22 Thread Kalle Happonen
Holger Freyther wrote: > On Monday 21 July 2008 22:07:30 Kalle Happonen wrote: > > >> Hmm I didn't get this to work. I didn't have a terminal on the phone, so >> I ran it with X forwarding, i.e. the windows opened on my laptop. I >> think I would have gotten them imported (vCard version 2.1, not

Re: How can I solve the TS Calibration in Landscape mode?

2008-07-22 Thread Hans L
Hi Alexander, This issue is in the bug tracker: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1244 Though, I'm not sure if there has been any progress towards a fix yet. Looks like Tony Tu is possibly working on it? (it is assigned to him) -Hans On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Alexander Syring <[EMAIL

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-22 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | This is now starting to look great! I seem to be unable to get the Wah it's good to hear! | It would be nice to know whether the S/N ratio is about as good with | the software fix as it's without SD card

Re: FreeBSD / dfu-util

2008-07-22 Thread Ben Cadieux
I've tracked down a little more. In main.c, in the function list_dfu_interfaces(void) around line ~310...The USB tree is being walked, and 4 devices are detected (root hubs?). However, the for(dev = usb_bus->devices;.) loop never executes. dev = usb_bus -> devices doesn't seem to return anyth

Re: FreeBSD / dfu-util

2008-07-22 Thread Yorick Moko
it might be a stupid comment, but have you booted the freerunner in NOR? On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:45 PM, Ben Cadieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I notice some comments in there with regards to FBSD, so maybe it does > work and I'm screwing something up :) > > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:37 AM

Re: Reason for GPS problems found!

2008-07-22 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/7/20 Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Thanks for this report, I went and looked and found I didn't take care > of the case where last packet transferred was not a bulk read packet: > that what happens on resume. I added a patch to stable branch that > should be out tomorrow hopefully and giv

Re: Import contacts qtopia

2008-07-22 Thread Holger Freyther
On Monday 21 July 2008 22:07:30 Kalle Happonen wrote: > Hmm I didn't get this to work. I didn't have a terminal on the phone, so > I ran it with X forwarding, i.e. the windows opened on my laptop. I > think I would have gotten them imported (vCard version 2.1, not 3 for > some reason), but I found

How can I solve the TS Calibration in Landscape mode?

2008-07-22 Thread Alexander Syring
Hi How can I solve the TS Calibration in Landscape mode? I've tested ts_calibrate in landscape mode but the screen goes to portrait mode to calibrate. regards Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.

Re: FreeBSD / dfu-util

2008-07-22 Thread Ben Cadieux
I notice some comments in there with regards to FBSD, so maybe it does work and I'm screwing something up :) On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Ben Cadieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I got dfu-util to compile using the OSX patch for endian.h & byteswap.h. > > Unfortunately, -l

FreeBSD / dfu-util

2008-07-22 Thread Ben Cadieux
Hi Everyone, I got dfu-util to compile using the OSX patch for endian.h & byteswap.h. Unfortunately, -l lists no USB devices. I've tried using the --device parameter, but that doesn't seem to help --- dfu-util sticks to its guns that there are no DFU compatible devices. I'm going to be setting

Clock Configuration Question

2008-07-22 Thread reaper527
I have my clock configured to the proper date/time, however I was hoping to set it up as a 12 hour (am/pm) clock instead of the 24 hour (military time) clock it uses by default. Does anyone know how to set this up? I did a google search on the date command, but it didn't seem to take pm in the ti

Re: have anyone changed his ringtone ?

2008-07-22 Thread arne anka
> pulseaudiot nice freudian slip ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: have anyone changed his ringtone ?

2008-07-22 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
for sure... I didn't experiment with sizes much but my attempt of 3M in size led pulse to explicitely state that it is too big: just run that pulse from cmdline, without -D and log-level=2 should be sufficient. You would need to restart X so dialer reconnects to pulseaudio also there seems to be a

Re: dfu-util: line 1: syntax error: "(" unexpected

2008-07-22 Thread Ben Cadieux
Ooops! I thought it was used on the FR! Thanks. Best Regards, Ben Cadieux On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:53 AM, xiangfu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ben Cadieux wrote: >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Got my FR yesterday. Neat device so far :) >> >> I followed the instructions for reflashing, dfu-util gives t

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:34:58 +0200, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess you're not a kernel coder... not only is the segment for these > definitively zero at start of kernel, but it is an offence against > ./scripts/checkpatch.pl to explicitly zero these things. It's strange to have a

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Mikko Rauhala
ti, 2008-07-22 kello 17:01 +0200, Alexey Feldgendler kirjoitti: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:25:45 +0200, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > static int sd_drive; > > This doesn't seem like zero initialization to me. Static is initialized to zero. But indeed, I too noticed this from the patch,

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:25:45 +0200, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | |> http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2 | |> static int sd_drive; | | This

Re: SD Card

2008-07-22 Thread arne anka
>> afair the latest uboots allow ext3, too, of what use a journal ever >> might >> be with an sd card. > > No fsck. An 8G SD with lots of little files would take a while to fsck > after a crash. sounds sensible, indeed. ___ Openmoko community mailing

Re: GPS software fix, just CRUFT?

2008-07-22 Thread Benedikt Schindler
Scott Derrick schrieb: > IE. do they add anything useful? > > Scott > i think turning off an clock that isn't needed, is always a good thing. power saving rules. ... greenpeace-energy rules (just in germany as far as i know)... :) ... o yeah and OM rules _

Re: SD Card

2008-07-22 Thread Andrew Burgess
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 7:36 AM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> on a related note, what is the best way to format an sd card for use in >> the freerunner? > > fat, ext2. > afair the latest uboots allow ext3, too, of what use a journal ever might > be with an sd card. No fsck. An 8G SD wi

Re: GPS software fix, just CRUFT?

2008-07-22 Thread Michael Sheldon
Scott Derrick wrote: > With the GPS hardware fix done(10pf cap installed) are the software > changes to the kernel/modules just added cruft? IE. do they add > anything useful? I believe you'll get less power consumption from the SD controller due to it idling properly now. Mike. __

GPS software fix, just CRUFT?

2008-07-22 Thread Scott Derrick
With the GPS hardware fix done(10pf cap installed) are the software changes to the kernel/modules just added cruft? IE. do they add anything useful? Scott ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailm

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:25:45 +0200, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2 > static int sd_drive; This doesn't seem like zero initialization to me. -- Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [ICQ: 11

Re: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-22 Thread Scott Derrick
Use an ESD safe soldering iron also. Preferably one you can set tip temperature, though with a quick hand thats not necessary. Scott Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > doh me -- I meant to ask about soldering iron primarily. So which gun > would you recommend (so it feels comfortable in hand, is not too

Re: dfu-util: line 1: syntax error: "(" unexpected

2008-07-22 Thread xiangfu
Ben Cadieux wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > Got my FR yesterday. Neat device so far :) > > I followed the instructions for reflashing, dfu-util gives this when I > execute it: > dfu-util: line 1: syntax error: "(" unexpected > > I'm having trouble updating it though. I've wget'ted it more than > once a

Re: SD Card

2008-07-22 Thread xiangfu
Peter Abplanalp wrote: > hi, > > i am seeing a lot of things on the list about sd cards and that they > interfere with the gps and that call clarity is worse when using an sd > card. i know that the gps issue has been addressed with a patch. will this > patch also address the call clarity issue?

Re: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-22 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | doh me -- I meant to ask about soldering iron primarily. So which gun | would you recommend (so it feels comfortable in hand, is not too long, | doesn't heat the handle more than the tip ;-) etc) Dunno abou

Re: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-22 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
doh me -- I meant to ask about soldering iron primarily. So which gun would you recommend (so it feels comfortable in hand, is not too long, doesn't heat the handle more than the tip ;-) etc) On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Sander van Grieken wrote: > > could anyone recommend a nice solder for such kind of

Re: dfu-util: line 1: syntax error: "(" unexpected

2008-07-22 Thread arne anka
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# md5sum /usr/bin/dfu-util > 84f0bd60bef2450e57bda627254faf3a /usr/bin/dfu-util where did you get it from and on what platform are you using it? i got mine from the debian repositories and it works well -- so, other linux distributions might have it, too. _

Re: SD Card

2008-07-22 Thread arne anka
> patch also address the call clarity issue? also, do i get the patch if i as far as i remember there were one or to post which _thought_ it possible that the sd card _might_ influence call clarity. but there was and is no evidence for that idea. > install a daily build or do i need to build i

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi Andy, | Can you do your voodoo so that this will install from opkg upgrade? That's someone else's voodoo, but it is the intention that it'll just turn up in packages after 24hrs or less. - -Andy -BE

dfu-util: line 1: syntax error: "(" unexpected

2008-07-22 Thread Ben Cadieux
Hi Everyone, Got my FR yesterday. Neat device so far :) I followed the instructions for reflashing, dfu-util gives this when I execute it: dfu-util: line 1: syntax error: "(" unexpected I'm having trouble updating it though. I've wget'ted it more than once and checked the md5; [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | So you mean the patch allowing to change the drive strength for SD, | not the latest patch you committed about 2 hours ago which set default | strength to 0 ? Yes, the now older patch introduced the /sys t

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I know it is difficult to quantify this but it would be nice to know | that say the clock current drive decrease by itself improved the SN | ratio by say 6dB, the capacitor mod by itself improved the SN by

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Vinc Duran
Hi Andy, Can you do your voodoo so that this will install from opkg upgrade? Thanks, Vinc Duran user On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > |> So the fact you were OK

SD Card

2008-07-22 Thread Peter Abplanalp
hi, i am seeing a lot of things on the list about sd cards and that they interfere with the gps and that call clarity is worse when using an sd card. i know that the gps issue has been addressed with a patch. will this patch also address the call clarity issue? also, do i get the patch if i ins

Re: Launching apps in ASU

2008-07-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:56:52 +0200 Sven Klomp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Tuesday 22 July 2008 11:46:40 Marcel wrote: > > Am Dienstag 22 Juli 2008 08:39:20 schrieb Kalle Happonen: > > > Hello, > > > I just flashed to ASU (again, it's fun to play around :) ). I installed > > > the vte termina

Re: Terminal for ASU

2008-07-22 Thread Kalle Happonen
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:39:01 +0100 JW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > >>> Where are the design documents which say "no keyboard toggle button >>> should be included", please? If one wishes to contribute code or >>> patches to ASU then I guess it's neces

Re: Why is Qtopia much faster?

2008-07-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:38:35 +1000 Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > Well, a almost desktop compliant x11 system with a wide variety of > > frameworks, libs and programming languages. > > It will be hard to achieve a consistent look and feel across all these > toolkits. Not to mentio

Re: Why is Qtopia much faster?

2008-07-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:10:27 +1000 Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > Tilman Baumann wrote: > > And not using x11 is probably a very sane step, if you can live > > without the portability factor. (That's porting other apps) > > There is no portability factor. Only which toolkit is avail

Re: Terminal for ASU

2008-07-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:05:48 +0100 Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > On 21 Jul 2008, at 19:47, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > ... > > the problem is the designers decided that ASU is not to have any > > manual > > keyboard toggle button because it will disturb the design an

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Cédric Berger
ccording to the filename, this uImage.bin has the patch in > |> > |> > http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807/20080722/uImage-2.6.24+git23+1d04b142ffeaa15129f046751f1366b0f0614f47-r0-om-gta02.bin > | ___ Openmoko

Re: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-22 Thread Scott Derrick
I use "electronic silver solder", 62/36/2 62% tin, 36% lead, 2% silver 44 flux, dia 0.5mm made by Kester with all that lead maybe its not available in the EU? Kester makes a lead free equivalent. here's a lead free equivalent in a small package. http://www.shopatron.com/product/part_number=5831

Re: Terminal for ASU

2008-07-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:39:01 +0100 JW <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > > > > > > Where are the design documents which say "no keyboard toggle button > > should be included", please? If one wishes to contribute code or > > patches to ASU then I guess it's necessary to know this, or one will > > find

Re: Terminal for ASU

2008-07-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:21:22 +0100 Al Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled: > On Monday 21 July 2008, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 22:32:47 +0100 Al Johnson > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > babbled: > > > On Monday 21 July 2008, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > > the problem is the d

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Simon Matthews
> > Surely the hardware and software 'fixes' can only be seen as a total fix > > if they make the SN (signal to noise ratio) of the GPS the same as if > > the SD card is not present. > > FWIW and IMAO, this definition of a "total fix" is impractical almost to > the point of uselessness. There wil

Re: Ruleby was: Rules based policy engine

2008-07-22 Thread matt joyce
Tilman Baumann wrote: > Scott wrote: > >> I just found this inference engine. >> >> http://ruleby.org/wiki/Ruleby >> >> I working on a Rails project think Ruby is a great language to work >> with. And Ruby is pretty small.. >> > > A bit too many layers there for my taste. :) > A domain

Re: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-22 Thread Sander van Grieken
> could anyone recommend a nice solder for such kind of work? (haven't > bothered to buy one in the states... in ukraine at the university was > using whatever was given ;-)) You will need 'flux core solder' (normal 'resin' electronics solder), with a low wattage soldering iron, like 15W. It also

Re: order from Pulster

2008-07-22 Thread Daniel Selinger
> The stock situation is getting much better now, we have a new > delivery on 15.08. and everybody who ordered a Freerunner will get > one. Thanks Chris! I got my order confirmation yesterday, with payment information and the 15.8 as delivery date, for the old price. Took some time but i'm happy

Re: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-22 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
could anyone recommend a nice solder for such kind of work? (haven't bothered to buy one in the states... in ukraine at the university was using whatever was given ;-)) On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Tim Schmidt wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:35 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 1. Give people

Re: replaced ringtone but it plays it really funny way

2008-07-22 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
nah... that is though the first thing I thought -- pulse is there to do resampling if needed. I think that my suspicion (said in my prev email to the thread) is the root -- dialer's logic is a big weaked and it doesn't really get idea either the sound has finished playing within its timeout of 500m

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread nick loeve
Hi On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:52 PM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> btw: why can't these packages not simply have a date in the name, maybe >>> with a time, too? >>> >> >> These signify which git tree/revision is built. >> >> The date is in the folder names containing it. > > doesn't help

Re: Ruleby was: Rules based policy engine

2008-07-22 Thread Tilman Baumann
Scott wrote: > I just found this inference engine. > > http://ruleby.org/wiki/Ruleby > > I working on a Rails project think Ruby is a great language to work > with. And Ruby is pretty small.. A bit too many layers there for my taste. :) A domain specific rules language implemented in ruby embe

Ruleby was: Rules based policy engine

2008-07-22 Thread Scott
I just found this inference engine. http://ruleby.org/wiki/Ruleby I working on a Rails project think Ruby is a great language to work with. And Ruby is pretty small.. Scott signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko commun

Re: open phone dictionary

2008-07-22 Thread Florian Hackenberger
On Tuesday 22 July 2008, Robin Paulson wrote: > does anyone know of any sources of open phone dictionaries? http://www.dict.org could be of some help, or the openoffice dictionaries at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries Cheers, Florian -- DI Florian Hackenberger [EM

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread arne anka
>> btw: why can't these packages not simply have a date in the name, maybe >> with a time, too? >> > > These signify which git tree/revision is built. > > The date is in the folder names containing it. doesn't help with opkg -- from looking at the package's name you cannot tell if your kernel is

Re: wifi

2008-07-22 Thread Dietmar Friede
On Sunday 20 July 2008, Charles Hill wrote: > After two days of fighting with WPA2-PSK and getting nowhere, I figured > something out. > > My WAP doesn't broadcast the SSID. Normally, this isn't a problem as I > specify the SSID in the wpa_supplicant.conf file. But when I turned ON > broadcast of

Caps for GTA02 GPS rework

2008-07-22 Thread Scott
I just bought ten, 10pf 0402 package ceramic caps from digikey. Part number 399-1011-1-ND. http://www.digikey.com They are 2.5 cents apiece, min order 10. With shipping they will probably be 50 cents apiece. Once I get them, For a buck I will send one to anybody where a 42 cent US stamp

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread nick loeve
Hi On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 2:29 PM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> According to the filename, this uImage.bin has the patch in >> >> http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807/20080722/uImage-2.6.24+git23+1d04b142ffeaa15129f046751f1366b0f0614f47-r0-om

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> According to the filename, this uImage.bin has the patch in |> |> http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807/20080722/uImage-2.6.24+git23+1d04b142ffeaa15129f046751f1366b0f0614f47-r0-om-

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread arne anka
> According to the filename, this uImage.bin has the patch in > > http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807/20080722/uImage-2.6.24+git23+1d04b142ffeaa15129f046751f1366b0f0614f47-r0-om-gta02.bin how did you tell? by looking at the md5sum? btw: why can't these packages n

Re: Reason for GPS problems found! / more patches

2008-07-22 Thread Andy Green
://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807/20080722/uImage-2.6.24+git23+1d04b142ffeaa15129f046751f1366b0f0614f47-r0-om-gta02.bin Likewise, this package http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/om-gta02/kernel-image-2.6.24_2.6.24+git23+1d04b142ffeaa15129f046751f1366b0f0614f47-r0_om-gta02.ipk

Re: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-22 Thread JW
well from what Andy says they have found a software fix which - keeps good SD card perf (for cards tested so far) - doesn't degrade gps signal the software fix will be in the new kernel very soon and - switches off SD clock when not needed - reduces the drive strength of the SD signal when on so

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