On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:59:28 -0800
ashley elphick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hi, i would like to know how to post on this message board, i have
> recently aquired a neo 1973 and im having extreme difficluties! and
> i'd like to be able to ask for advice from fellow openmoko clients.
> many thank
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Somebody in the thread at some point said:
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> | There's the DHCP issue that other emails talk about. Another problem
> | is that you have to trust your DNSs and somehow it
You just did post to the board.
On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:59 AM, ashley elphick wrote:
> hi, i would like to know how to post on this message board, i have
> recently aquired a neo 1973 and im having extreme difficluties! and
> i'd like to be able to ask for advice from fellow openmoko clients.
>
Jeff Tickle wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I just installed the ASU daily build from buildhost yesterday (23 Jul),
> and there doesn't seem to be an on-screen keyboard.
>
> I've been doing a lot of searching around to find out what's up with
> the keyboard. I know that it was added as a 'qwerty' button,
Marek Lindner wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> since it seems to be extremely difficult to build software for the
>> OpenMoko on my home machine, perhaps it would be usefull if someone
>> (within OpenMoko?) would set up a globally reachable build host with
>> an openembedded and toolchain environment on it.
>
>
Scott wrote, On 24/07/08 13:25:
> GPS != GSM
Indeed. I just misread it.
>
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I have the mic volume working alright at the moment...but the speaker output in
the earpiece seems rather low, as well as the person I'm calling hearing
themselves echoed and of course the constant gsm interference sound as well.
Can anyone post their .state files that are working well? (If anyo
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:20:53 +
Christopher White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm running stock ASU package set, just did an opkg update and
> upgrade. I launch "Exposure" from the front screen, get the "Starting
> Exposure" at the bottom, but then nothing.
I had the same problem. Looks like
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| There's the DHCP issue that other emails talk about. Another problem
| is that you have to trust your DNSs and somehow it would mean that
| OpenMoko trusts (blindly) a few DNS servers. I feel that trusting
Hey all,
I just installed the ASU daily build from buildhost yesterday (23 Jul),
and there doesn't seem to be an on-screen keyboard.
I've been doing a lot of searching around to find out what's up with
the keyboard. I know that it was added as a 'qwerty' button, and then
removed because the devs
> if they have to ssh in and edit resolv.conf - i see it as no big
> addition to
> having to issue iptables, ifconfig etc. commands to enable your host
> desktop to
> route packets for your freerunner anyway - so one way or another you'd
> fiddling with scripts and command-line goop. the same s
On Thursday 24 July 2008, Brian C wrote:
> Bastian Muck wrote:
> > julien cubizolles schrieb:
> > | Le jeudi 17 juillet 2008 à 17:53 +0200, papa-piet a écrit :
> > |> Hi,
> > |> I didn't tested it yet but maybe this will help:
> > |>
> > |> http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=170&
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:06:33 +0200 "arne anka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> > Stuff like dhclient/udhcpcd and/or NetworkManager manages the
> > resolv.conf for you. AFIAK the problem is that the current firmwares do
> > not properly support this via GUI.
>
> what he's talking about is, probably
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Brian C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Suggestion:
>
> The rootfs should contain a resolv.conf that lists some
> publicly-available dns servers so that people with new FreeRunners would
> have a chance of getting net access without editing that file first.
Hi Brian.
> I'm running stock ASU package set, just did an opkg update and upgrade.
> I launch "Exposure" from the front screen, get the "Starting Exposure"
> at the bottom, but then nothing.
start it from terminal or via ssh -X from a shell and look for output.
I'm running stock ASU package set, just did an opkg update and upgrade.
I launch "Exposure" from the front screen, get the "Starting Exposure"
at the bottom, but then nothing.
Where would I look for log messages and enable debug messages for such
problems? logread -f shows nothing
Thanks
...cj
Brian C writes:
>Suggestion:
>
>The rootfs should contain a resolv.conf that lists some
>publicly-available dns servers so that people with new FreeRunners would
>have a chance of getting net access without editing that file first.
>
>Despite clear instructions on the wiki, this issue continues to
> I don't care for normative debates on orthography. I simply stated that
> `weiss' is no german word as my assumed explanation of why it is not
> recognized.
ok. autopilot got it wrong ... ;-)
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> Stuff like dhclient/udhcpcd and/or NetworkManager manages the
> resolv.conf for you. AFIAK the problem is that the current firmwares do
> not properly support this via GUI.
what he's talking about is, probably, that most people try the first steps
by _usb_ connection!
and usually (even if you
Suggestion:
The rootfs should contain a resolv.conf that lists some
publicly-available dns servers so that people with new FreeRunners would
have a chance of getting net access without editing that file first.
Despite clear instructions on the wiki, this issue continues to cause
people problems a
Hi,
I am not sure that this is a good suggestion.
Brian C schrieb:
> Suggestion:
>
> The rootfs should contain a resolv.conf that lists some
> publicly-available dns servers so that people with new FreeRunners would
> have a chance of getting net access without editing that file first.
Stuff like
> `weiss' is actually no german word at all.
how's that?
it's both a verb (from wissen) and and adjective/adverb (color)! and it's
correctly spelled (as far as correctly is a category because only
officials are compeled to use the afficial orthography).
instead of simply killing that stupid li
As far as I know .. it's useless because every time you get a DHCP
lease from a different server, it overrides your resolv.conf with it's
own favourite DNS servers.
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Brian C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Suggestion:
>
> The rootfs should contain a resolv.conf that li
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 03:49:14PM +0200, arne anka wrote:
> > `weiss' is actually no german word at all.
>
> how's that?
> it's both a verb (from wissen) and and adjective/adverb (color)! and it's
> correctly spelled (as far as correctly is a category because only
> officials are compeled to
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| On Thursday 24 July 2008, Scott wrote:
|> Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
|>> Am Di 22. Juli 2008 schrieb Scott Derrick:
|>>> With the GPS hardware fix done(10pf cap installed) are the software
|>>> changes to the
On Thursday 24 July 2008, Scott wrote:
> Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> > Am Di 22. Juli 2008 schrieb Scott Derrick:
> >> With the GPS hardware fix done(10pf cap installed) are the software
> >> changes to the kernel/modules just added cruft? IE. do they add
> >> anything useful?
> >
> > SW is defini
Bastian Muck wrote:
> julien cubizolles schrieb:
> | Le jeudi 17 juillet 2008 à 17:53 +0200, papa-piet a écrit :
> |> Hi,
> |> I didn't tested it yet but maybe this will help:
> |>
> |> http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=170&start=75#p3277
> |
> | I thinks it's the original one.
Hi Andy,
> sd_drive setting isn't actually used until next time we access the card,
> so provoking an access will do it, eg, touch /something ; sync.
Good point, but now it is getting really strange (all with sd_drive=0
prior to suspend):
Adding a "touch /media/mmcblk0p4/suspending" and it works,
The predictive keyboard using the german dictionary does not accept
`ss' for sharp S
`ue' for u-umlaut
`ae' for a-umlaut
`oe' for o-umlaut
When writing the german word `weiß' with a sharp S at the end,
`weiss' will not be accepted. You will get `weise', etc... because
`weiss' is actually no german
I received my full body Invisible Shield today, but the cut out pieces
that were in the box don't look like they would, in any way, fit on the
Freerunner. Does anyone have pictures of how this thing goes on the
phone? Or if I post a pic, could confirm that I have the right cover?
thanks!
. . .
Hi David,
> After the the card settles (see above in this thread), i can do the
> following:
>
> 1) fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0
> Result: error
...
No matter how often I call this, it never changes as the MBR is
completely zeroed out.
> To re-ead the partition table just start "fdisk /dev/mmcblk0",
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| On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 02:24:13PM +0100, Andy Green wrote:
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|> link against librari
Benedikt Schindler wrote:
Scott Derrick schrieb:
IE. do they add anything useful?
Scott
i think turning off an clock that isn't needed, is always a good thing.
power saving rules. ... greenpeace-energy rules (just in germany as far
as i know)...
:) ... o yeah and OM rules
Yes, tha
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
Am Di 22. Juli 2008 schrieb Scott Derrick:
With the GPS hardware fix done(10pf cap installed) are the software
changes to the kernel/modules just added cruft? IE. do they add
anything useful?
SW is definitely better than C, it works on data-rails as well. Those might
Hi Stefan,
maybe it turn out to be the same problem that I also have.
After the the card settles (see above in this thread), i can do the
following:
1) fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0
Result: error
2) fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0
Result: empty partition table!!!
3) fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0
Result: corre
GPS != GSM
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On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 02:24:13PM +0100, Andy Green wrote:
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> Toolchain tarball is a nice way actually, but I found if you need to
> link against libraries not in toolchain tree magically already, things
> become radically less smooth. There is a
>
the unabomber would know what to do! :)
No, seriously: enough openmoko-members read these mails.
It seems unimaginable that none of the design team has seen this
thread. It's about time they spoke up or that someone at openmoko
(Steve, Michael, Neng-Yu Tu ?) gave us some more info about the design
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 07:27:37AM +0200, Christ van Willegen wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Marek Lindner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I tried to tell you a few times, but I'll rephrase.
>
> I have an iMac G5, rev C (with iSight built-in). That is a PowerPC64
> architecture.
>
> - The
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Hi all,
|
| I can now reliably reproduce the issue, as dd'ing the mbr back to the
| card so far restores sane behaviour :
|
| If sd_drive is set to "0", then after a resume from "sync && apm -s" the
| MBR of
> If you only wants to build your own project, I recommend you to use
> meta-toolchain.
>
.. or use the compiler-on-board approach. Took me 46 seconds to
compile a 2000-line GTK app with cairo, rsvg, etc. Not terribly
exciting, speed-wise, but definitely very easy to use if you don't
w
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 02:25:30PM +0200, Christ van Willegen wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:18 PM, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > the idea crossed my mind too the other day.
> > would be a nice thing to have but of course it requires rather much
> > attention (far from everything in
Hi all,
I can now reliably reproduce the issue, as dd'ing the mbr back to the card
so far restores sane behaviour :
If sd_drive is set to "0", then after a resume from "sync && apm -s" the MBR
of my 4GB SanDisk is wiped - so far I haven't noticed any other errors, but
have not looked very closely
On 24 Jul 2008, at 03:50, Steven Kurylo wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Stroller
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On 24 Jul 2008, at 01:09, Dale Schumacher wrote:
>>>
Also, could you possibly post to the list in plain text, not HTML?
>>>
>>> Sure, I could. I thought it would be
Stroller wrote:
> On 24 Jul 2008, at 06:22, Kalle Happonen wrote:
>
>> John Mark Walker wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Yorick Moko
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
by "gratis" he means "without cost"
>>> Oops... :) Yes, I mean "free as in b
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:11:39 -0400 Yaroslav Halchenko
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> recently. BUT to get such responsive UI sacrifices had been made, thus
> there is no X (I do not even want to touch GPL vs BSD/... issue here).
actually to be more on topic - sacrificing x11 does not make a ui mo
On 24 Jul 2008, at 08:30, arne anka wrote:
>> If you've been mismanaged/micromanaged so badly that you've had to
>> adopt
>> what Neitzche called the "Sklavmoral"-- or "I'm not paid to
>> think, I'm
>
> well, nietzsche told a lot of stuff and ended up in the funny farm
> in due
> time ...
On 24 Jul 2008, at 06:22, Kalle Happonen wrote:
> John Mark Walker wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Yorick Moko
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> by "gratis" he means "without cost"
>>
>> Oops... :) Yes, I mean "free as in beer."
>
> Not to be a nitpick, but I think the official qu
I delete the mispelling page.
and keep the right page
Please check it.
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_unable_to_work_with_3G_SIM_cards
Brenda
Stroller ??:
>
> On 23 Jul 2008, at 22:55, Michael Shiloh wrote:
>
>> Brenda has set up a wiki page to list these problem cards
>>
>> http://wik
please, check the archives -- this has been discussed several times
already.
there's even a python script available.
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Maciej Piechotka, 2008-07-24 11:58:03 +0200 :
> On my previous phone I had large collection of the contacts (email,
> phones etc.). I've exported it by gammu to the vCard format. How to
> import them into OpenMoko Contacts?
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts
Roland.
--
Roland Mas
On my previous phone I had large collection of the contacts (email,
phones etc.). I've exported it by gammu to the vCard format. How to import them
into OpenMoko Contacts?
Best regards
PS.
I've noticed that you are using evolution storing format. However the esd is
not run (probably for performan
> I don't have any objections to having a c compiler 'on board' with me
> all the time...
Me either! In fact I find it a very easy way to get started with
OpenMoko development without having all the drudgery of setting up a
cross-toolchain and all the other cruft associated with it.
> IIRC
Cédric Berger wrote, On 24/07/08 09:51:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:28, Alex Kavanagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Scott wrote, On 24/07/08 01:52:
>>
>>> Anybody know what the connector type is for connecting an external GSM
>>> antenna?
>>>
>> MMCX. See http://wiki.openmoko.o
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Michael Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > is there already an applet for the panel that loads some
> >
> >
> >
> > pairs from a config file and shows in the menu and executes
> > if I click on ? Or should this be integrated into
> > the aux/
Andy Green, 2008-07-24 09:34:12 +0100 :
[...]
> | ...that, or the kernel just forgets to switch the LED off. Andy?
>
> Should be fixed in the last couple of days
[...]
> If you're running today's kernel, then... obviously not fixed
> enough!
I believe I am. My installed kernel is from Jul 23 0
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> I really appreciate work of Trolltech ... Nokia toward making pure
> qtopia available for Freerunner. Probably the suite of QT apps available
> for qtopia would be sufficient for a large portion of FR owners, but
> would not satisfy all of them. But that again simply co
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:28, Alex Kavanagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Scott wrote, On 24/07/08 01:52:
>> Anybody know what the connector type is for connecting an external GSM
>> antenna?
> MMCX. See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS
I think the question was about a GSM antenna, not GPS.
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 10:29 AM, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Another option is to compile-on-board. Yes, thats right, add all the -
> dev packages for the libraries you're interested in, put gcc on your
> Freerunner, and do all your compiling with the Freerunner. For a lot
> of boot
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| arne anka, 2008-07-23 20:03:21 +0200 :
|
|> sysfsutils (at least on debian/unstable) contains a script, that
|> reads a configfiole on startup and sets values in /sys/ accordingly.
|
| Thanks for the scrip
How is the image (from http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/ :
Qtopia flash image for FIC Neo Freerunner (gta02)) created ?
It is said to be created from a rootfs from FSO.
- why FSO ? (lighter maybe ?) Can we use another base rootfs ?
- what is specific to qtopia image ? Qtopia is added, but
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Michael Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> is there already an applet for the panel that loads some
>
>
>
> pairs from a config file and shows in the menu and executes
> if I click on ? Or should this be integrated into
> the aux/power-button menus?
arne anka, 2008-07-23 20:03:21 +0200 :
> sysfsutils (at least on debian/unstable) contains a script, that
> reads a configfiole on startup and sets values in /sys/ accordingly.
Thanks for the script.
[...]
> class/leds/gta02-power:orange/trigger=bat-charging
> class/leds/gta02-power:blue/trig
> Do you suggest I re-try running Ubuntu (8) in Virtual PC or in Q(emu)?
> I'll try that tonight and/or tomorrow. After that, I'll be on a 2-week
> holiday... with my brand-spanking-new FreeRunner that I expect to get
> today or tomorrow!
Another option is to compile-on-board. Yes, thats right,
Scott wrote, On 24/07/08 01:52:
> Anybody know what the connector type is for connecting an external GSM
> antenna?
MMCX. See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS
Hope that helps.
Cheers
Alex.
PS Please start a new thread for a new topic. Thanks
>
> I've searched the wiki multiple times to no av
not that i know of
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 7:28 AM, Michael Kluge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> is there already an applet for the panel that loads some
>
>
>
> pairs from a config file and shows in the menu and executes
> if I click on ? Or should this be integrated into
> the aux/
Florian Hackenberger wrote:
> On Tuesday 22 July 2008, Robin Paulson wrote:
>
>> does anyone know of any sources of open phone dictionaries?
>>
>
> http://www.dict.org could be of some help, or the openoffice
> dictionaries at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries
>
> Chee
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:22:37 +0200, arne anka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> Don't you have access to the wiki?
>
> nope. lost my creds somewhere -- and to be honest, i never got the hang
> of
> this whole wiki thing ... at least when it comes to creating pages from
> scratch.
>
Hi,
In case th
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:19 AM, Andreas Dalsgaard
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Instead of using the mokomakefile you could try this package I've made
> for Ubuntu(see
> http://andreasdalsgaard.blogspot.com/2008/07/openmoko-development-in-5-minutes.html).
> The package contain the toolchain and so
> Everybody, get a Micro-SD card and stick it in your Neo. Put some
should that apply to multiboot or to _every_ use of the sd card?
i use suspend/resume more or less successfully for a week or 10 days now
and the files on my sd card (4gb, how do i determine the exact name from a
running syst
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 09:42 +0300, Timo Jyrinki wrote:
> 2008/7/24 Al Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > fixed a long way back in the route. I didn't have a tile cached for the area
> > I had walked into. When I zoomed out to a scale where I did have a tile
> > cached it redrew the track, this time f
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 09:30:03AM +0200, arne anka wrote:
> anyway, what raster tries to say, imho, is: do not bother _him_ with your
> criticism but the designers themselves -- saying he's only the programmer
> makes imo sufficiently clear that he's not teh one to make that decistions
> and
> have you got libusb somewhere? OSX needs it too, btw ..
according to google libusb is available via fink.
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> If you've been mismanaged/micromanaged so badly that you've had to adopt
> what Neitzche called the "Sklavmoral"-- or "I'm not paid to think, I'm
well, nietzsche told a lot of stuff and ended up in the funny farm in due
time ... and if his own morale was that much better than sklavenmoral i
> Don't you have access to the wiki?
nope. lost my creds somewhere -- and to be honest, i never got the hang of
this whole wiki thing ... at least when it comes to creating pages from
scratch.
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2008/7/24 Christ van Willegen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Marek Lindner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>> since it seems to be extremely difficult to build software for the
>>> OpenMoko on my home machine, perhaps it would be usefull if someone
>>> (within Open
I'm writing a wifi connection program:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Lint-wifi
My absolute deadline for getting this finished is LinuxWorld, but I fully
expect it to be mostly done in a week or less (I only started writing it
Sunday night and people are beta testing it already).
Also, seeing as I'm
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