Re: [SHR] first total usable image
Steffen Winkler пишет: Three days ago, I installed the actual SHR onto my freerunner (testing or unstable...I think it was the unstable image, but not sure) and today, I can only say one thing: It's the best image I've ever seen! Nice to hear this. I've flashed SHR recently too. But occasionaly I've swiched my theme to absolutly unusible default one. And now I just can't switch back. I've looked through the configs in ~/.e/e/config and all of them are some kind of compiled data. I say does anyone know how can I change illume theme from console? GPS works! (needs 20 minutes for first fix: first killall fso-gpsd, then power on the gps device echo 1 /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.7/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron then type cat /dev/ttySAC1 and wait, still you see some numbers or characters between all commas in a GPS message (ignore those unknown ... messages) when that happens, type ctrl +c to kill the cat output and start fso-gpsd. Now open tangoGPS and wait some seconds and you can see where you are. GPRS works! Simple follow the fso gprs manual in the wiki Voice quality is better than the voice quality on most normal handys for me. Now I only need bluetooth and a good audio player (the pythm doesn't play .ogg files well...only I make a bad quality ogg file...) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Google analytic records of January
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:53:37 +0800, Brenda Wang brenda_w...@openmoko.com wrote: Dear list: I update the Google analytic records of wiki last month. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wiki_statistic_numbers Application page, Android, Distribution pages still the most popular page of Wiki. Feel free to let me know , if any kind of number you want .I can export and update it on wiki. Regards Brenda Amazing that there are more hits from Germany than from the US. (I'm from Germany too) But I for one am using noScript, and google-analytics.com is untrusted... So as always this is not 100% reliable. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
Hi, Stefan Schmidt wrote: No more words from our side. Grab it while it's hot, have fun and happy hacking. http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone5/ Well, the openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz and openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz images both boot and drop me into tty1 console. Cant get X to run on these. No busybox either. Any pointers ? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Freesmartphone.org-Milestone-5-%27Calling-All-Stations%27-Release-tp2261004p2262195.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
On 03/02/2009 09:21, c_c wrote: Well, the openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz and openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz images both boot and drop me into tty1 console. Cant get X to run on these. No busybox either. Any pointers ? It is not a bug, it is a feature! It is the result of the back to basic project :) Ok, sorry for the joke, but it was too strong :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4
This is reminding me of a problem we have with level interrupts on pcf50633 new driver, we also get twice the same interrupt there although the density of interrupts is so low and logically it cannot get confused so it doesn't make trouble. We also changed lis302dl to use level interrupts so it's suspicious now we see this behaviour that is so similar. -Andy Thanks, Is somebody working on this or should I write a bug report? If yes where? Can I use any other Kernel with FSO Milestone 5 which doesn't suffer from this problem ? I want to update my system but I need proper working accels. Greets Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | This is reminding me of a problem we have with level interrupts on | pcf50633 new driver, we also get twice the same interrupt there although | the density of interrupts is so low and logically it cannot get confused | so it doesn't make trouble. | | We also changed lis302dl to use level interrupts so it's suspicious now | we see this behaviour that is so similar. | | -Andy | | Thanks, | Is somebody working on this or should I write a bug report? If yes where? | Can I use any other Kernel with FSO Milestone 5 which doesn't suffer from this | problem ? I want to update my system but I need proper working accels. Send a bug report in Trac about it. There is a quick workaround for this that can be done I believe. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmIBM4ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMp/vgCfd2H3VtJb9gvcjbIgj83nDVXc POkAn2WB4y3BNCMyEO802DAzHPxBwwS0 =rAZM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Kustomizer for 2008.12
Thanks for all the suggestions and comments you've sent me via the list private emails. I'll try to do some changes here and there, you can see the devel version at http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/kustomizer_devel Just to let you know, there's something wrong with the GPS at the moment, it doesn't connect to the network at all so it can't be used as a phone. I tried kustomizer without the GPRS, gsm0710mux and changes to 89qtopia (see the devel version) with no success. Will have a better look on it later - if you have any ideas what might cause this or how to find out the reason, let me know. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kustomizer r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki page - which file system in sd card?
done on the FR. Therefore, I'll edit the page with opinions are divided regarding reliability and no objective comparisons yet for other criteria. It'd be much easier to just punt on the whole issue and say same rules apply as for any other Linux system. party pooper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4
Send a bug report in Trac about it. There is a quick workaround for this that can be done I believe. -Andy Thank You very much ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Report] - Buzz fix
is this: if People send in phones the first thing one wants to do is test whether the phone in question actually has a buzz and how bad the buzz is. We need to develop a robust test for that. Then the SOP would with the included headset and the gsmheadset.state i get a very strong buzz myself when calling eg my voice box. is that in some way related or even the same buzz? then it would be easy to check. btw: what exactly means SOP? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:28:17 +0100 Michele Renda michele.re...@gmail.com (MR) wrote: On 03/02/2009 09:21, c_c wrote: Well, the openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz and openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz images both boot and drop me into tty1 console. Cant get X to run on these. No busybox either. Any pointers ? It is not a bug, it is a feature! It is the result of the back to basic project :) this happens only with qi. could it be related to ro kernel parameter? -- Petr Vaněk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:53:15 +0100 Michael Tansella michael-tanse...@gmx.de wrote: There is a quick workaround for this that can be done I believe. Any hint where I can find this workaround, then I'll post it to the wiki? The fix should now be in the latest andy-tracking kernel: http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=andy-tracking It has been discussed on the kernel list as well, and for at least one of the patches I'm not sure if it's the right way to go. Anyway: For your purposes I think the current andy-tracking branch will work very well. // Simon ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: this happens only with qi. could it be related to ro kernel parameter? I've just tried the image on my SD card (no qi, then, I guess), and if fails all the same. -- LC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: High Resolution freerunner photos
Mickael Labrousse wrote: Hi, Where can I found some HiRes photos of the freerunner ? I've already download the press photos. Mickael Let me know if this works for you: http://www.openmoko.com/press-press-material.html Good luck! -Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
-Message d'origine- De : community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de Olivier Migeot Envoyé : mardi 3 février 2009 11:58 À : List for Openmoko community discussion Objet : Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: this happens only with qi. could it be related to ro kernel parameter? I've just tried the image on my SD card (no qi, then, I guess), and if fails all the same. Why that? Qi boots from uSD card first by default. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: London pub meet on the 11th
Hi, I should be able to make that too. I'll look for the crowd standing by the door trying to get a GPS fix. What time BTW? Lee On 1 Feb 2009, at 23:30, Gothnet wrote: Hello all, So, it's a couple of weeks since the last thread, are we still having a pub meet on the 11th? I've looked at the pubs suggested, and my vote's on the Old Bank of England on Fleet street. I don't like Sam Smith's beer and OBoE is lazily close to work :) So who's available and could sup a couple of beers and chat about the state of the world/phone? I'm Dave, by the way, and only used to be a goth, though the name kinda stuck. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/London-pub-meet-on-the-11th-tp2255676p2255676.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- QURU Ltd Somerset House, Strand, London, WC2R 1LA T: +44 20 7193 1784 F: +44 8701 368768 Registered in England, No. 6144918, at Millmead, RH20 2LA. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | There is a quick workaround for this that can be done I believe. | | Any hint where I can find this workaround, then I'll post it to the wiki? I'm just adding some patches and doing some cleaning on it, I'll update the moredrivers kernels at http://people.openmoko.org/andy when I checked we didn't break the threshold stuff. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmIIt8ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpzogCffYlArN6RPOfEBvWc2u0s6d2y I8YAn2KLk5NKki7CmLVeQe5evB6ordzz =0bQ1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Report] - Buzz fix
On Tuesday 03 February 2009, arne anka wrote: btw: what exactly means SOP? Standard Operating Procedure ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Milestone V blkid installation prob
Hi, does anyone else get this error message when udate/upgrade on milestone 5 installation? Upgrading busybox on root from 1.13.2-r5 to 1.13.2-r9... Downloading http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-milestone5/feeds//armv4t/busybox_1.13.2-r9_armv4t.ipk Collected errors: * Package busybox wants to install file /sbin/blkid But that file is already provided by package * e2fsprogs-blkid cheers -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Milestone-V-blkid-installation-prob-tp2262943p2262943.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MyPaint 0.6
Michele Renda schrieb: On 02/02/2009 23:05, Joachim Breitner wrote: these look as if the FreeRunner’s touch screen actually gives pressure input to the application. Is that really the case? I read from [1] it support pressure input and on some tables it run. But I don't know if really FR is able to give pressure indication to MyPaint. I highly doubt that the fr is able to do that - the graphics tablets I know rely on a stylus with a special tip with suspension to achieve different pressure levels, so I don't think it is possible with a normal resistive touchscreen. [1] http://mypaint.intilinux.com/ Regards Michele Renda Regards, Konstantin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Om2008.x] UMTS based on USB adapter
Hello, Is anybody using UMTS connections with the FR based on USB connected modem devices like the USB HSDPA Huawei E220 one? Any other ideas as devices? Thx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: London pub meet on the 11th
7.30 (!?) I'm in and will probably bring some other interested parties with me. 2009/2/3 Lee Khan-Bourne l...@quru.com: Hi, I should be able to make that too. I'll look for the crowd standing by the door trying to get a GPS fix. What time BTW? Lee On 1 Feb 2009, at 23:30, Gothnet wrote: Hello all, So, it's a couple of weeks since the last thread, are we still having a pub meet on the 11th? I've looked at the pubs suggested, and my vote's on the Old Bank of England on Fleet street. I don't like Sam Smith's beer and OBoE is lazily close to work :) So who's available and could sup a couple of beers and chat about the state of the world/phone? I'm Dave, by the way, and only used to be a goth, though the name kinda stuck. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/London-pub-meet-on-the-11th-tp2255676p2255676.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- QURU Ltd Somerset House, Strand, London, WC2R 1LA T: +44 20 7193 1784 F: +44 8701 368768 Registered in England, No. 6144918, at Millmead, RH20 2LA. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:43 PM, KaZeR ka...@altern.org wrote: Why that? Qi boots from uSD card first by default. Yeah, but I never flashed my bootloader, so I'd like to know where Qi would come from, then. -- LC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
2009/2/3 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:28:17 +0100 Michele Renda michele.re...@gmail.com (MR) wrote: On 03/02/2009 09:21, c_c wrote: Well, the openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz and openmoko-fso-illume-image-glibc-ipk--20090202-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz images both boot and drop me into tty1 console. Cant get X to run on these. No busybox either. Any pointers ? It is not a bug, it is a feature! It is the result of the back to basic project :) this happens only with qi. could it be related to ro kernel parameter? Yes! I had to reconfigure uboot to remove ro and add rootdelay=5 to wait for mmcblk detection on 2.6.28 kernel. This fixed the same problem with the last shr unstable image... as they have the same father :))) Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[paroli] Paroli says: Hello World
Hi, Just in time with FSO’s Milestone 5 we are releasing our first tutorial. It outlines how to create a simple app, write a simple service and do some basic interaction with edje. read more at: http://www.paroli-project.org/2009/02/03/paroli-says-hello-world/ /mirko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Neon 0.9.6 is out
Hi, A new release of Neon is available. This is a major feature enhancements release. Changes since 0.9.5.1: * Images can be now auto-rotated by images dimensions (not by EXIF data). In other words, image is rotated if image's orientation is landscape. A new command line option (-r, --auto-rotate) has been added to enable/disable this new feature. * Added timers to auto-hide image viewer navbar and toolbar. A new command line option -d (--bars-disappear-delay) has been added to adjust auto-hide delay of this new feature (disabled by default). This feature is disabled if delay is 0. * Added the index of the image, the total number of images and the image's size in addition of the image's name in the image viewer. * Added a slideshow functionnality. A new command line option -s (--slideshow-delay) has been added to adjust the interval (default 4 sec.). * Added images properties: dimension, size, EXIF metadata, ... * Added a new theme 'Black White'. A new command line option -t (--theme) has been added to choice the theme to used. As usual you can get it at: http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=239 BEWARE: If your system uses Python 2.6 (not 2.5) like SHR unstable, you must install alternative package neon_0.9.6-r0_all_py2.6.ipk Links: Project Homepage: http://neon.projects.openmoko.org/ Wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neon Have fun, Valéry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.x] UMTS based on USB adapter
Matthias Apitz ha scritto: Hello, Is anybody using UMTS connections with the FR based on USB connected modem devices like the USB HSDPA Huawei E220 one? Any other ideas as devices? Thx matthias Yes, I do and it works pretty well (not considering battery drain ;) ) You can find some informations here [1]. I'm sorry they're in Italian as they're some little guidelines to achieve HSDPA connection given to a forum user, I hadn't time yet to put up a how-to, but just following the scripts and using an automatic translator should help you. :) P.S. where you see FDTF consider it a distro built onto an FDOM version of September with some customizations (themes, some progs and Italian keyboards) so consider it an FDOM ;) Have fun! Bye! [1] http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,1035.msg10579.html#msg10579 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
microsoft patent with idea's from this list
I've just read a (Dutch) news article (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/58158/microsoft-wil-brug-tussen-smartphone-en-pc- patenteren.html) which describes a new patent microsoft filed. In the article is a link to an English description of the patent. (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WONR=2009012344A2KC=A2FT=Ddate=20090122DB=EPODOClocale=en_US) The patent describes a dock for a smartphone, which connects to external devices such as a keyboard, mouse, screen,... wired or wireless. Now I think Openmoko already does a lot of these things, and other things have already been thought of. We can already hook up wired and wireless devices (such as mice and keyboards) to the Freerunner. I'm almost sure someone suggested hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically not possible, but it's been thought of. Integrating the wired connection between FR and the external devices has also been thought of earlier in this list. I'm not a lawyer, but since the patent was published on the 22th of January, I think for some parts of this patent, there is some sort of prior art involved. Also it wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft and Apple are eavesdropping on this list. (Note to Microsoft and Apple: Please don't steal our idea's. If you do: Please die a slow and painfull death.) mvg, depeje signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out
A new release of Neon is available. really cool! thank you. i would suggest two features: - preload of the next image - gestures (: Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: London pub meet on the 11th
Hi, 7:30 is good, OBoE sounds splendid! See y'all there! First person to be there, please hog a nicely sized table, and display something vaguely Moko-ish/Linux-ish/Computer-ish (Linux Format mag or anything siilarly geeky) on the table for others to spot. It's a nice trick shown to me by some greybeards heavily into the online-community thing. On Tue, February 3, 2009 12:34, gnublade wrote: 7.30 (!?) I'm in and will probably bring some other interested parties with me. 2009/2/3 Lee Khan-Bourne l...@quru.com: Hi, I should be able to make that too. I'll look for the crowd standing by the door trying to get a GPS fix. What time BTW? Lee On 1 Feb 2009, at 23:30, Gothnet wrote: Hello all, So, it's a couple of weeks since the last thread, are we still having a pub meet on the 11th? I've looked at the pubs suggested, and my vote's on the Old Bank of England on Fleet street. I don't like Sam Smith's beer and OBoE is lazily close to work :) So who's available and could sup a couple of beers and chat about the state of the world/phone? I'm Dave, by the way, and only used to be a goth, though the name kinda stuck. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/London-pub-meet-on-the-11th-tp2255676p2255676.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- QURU Ltd Somerset House, Strand, London, WC2R 1LA T: +44 20 7193 1784 F: +44 8701 368768 Registered in England, No. 6144918, at Millmead, RH20 2LA. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Regards, Jan Henkins ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.x] UMTS based on USB adapter
Matthias Apitz ha scritto: El día Tuesday, February 03, 2009 a las 02:35:06PM +0100, DJDAS escribió: Thanks for the pointer. I do Spanish and so I can read the page. :-) Your modem is as well Huawei E220? I have had one borrowed by Vodafone and it worked well on my FreeBSD laptop too; but I was asked to return it :-( Yes it's exactly an E220 do you have an idea where to buy one in EU without a contract of UMTS? I have an UMTS SIM but only a PCMCIA card :-( Well, I bought on ebay by an italian user, try there, I think you can find modems without the needing of a contract. is there any way to use something like an USB-splitter to connect the USB of the FR to the modem and at the same time to a laptop? matthias Uhm, IIRC there is a wiki page with some explanations on connectors to achieve this. Bye :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Great app, thanks!! :D Valery Febvre ha scritto: Hi, A new release of Neon is available. This is a major feature enhancements release. Changes since 0.9.5.1: * Images can be now auto-rotated by images dimensions (not by EXIF data). In other words, image is rotated if image's orientation is landscape. A new command line option (-r, --auto-rotate) has been added to enable/disable this new feature. * Added timers to auto-hide image viewer navbar and toolbar. A new command line option -d (--bars-disappear-delay) has been added to adjust auto-hide delay of this new feature (disabled by default). This feature is disabled if delay is 0. * Added the index of the image, the total number of images and the image's size in addition of the image's name in the image viewer. * Added a slideshow functionnality. A new command line option -s (--slideshow-delay) has been added to adjust the interval (default 4 sec.). * Added images properties: dimension, size, EXIF metadata, ... * Added a new theme 'Black White'. A new command line option -t (--theme) has been added to choice the theme to used. As usual you can get it at: http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=239 BEWARE: If your system uses Python 2.6 (not 2.5) like SHR unstable, you must install alternative package neon_0.9.6-r0_all_py2.6.ipk Links: Project Homepage: http://neon.projects.openmoko.org/ Wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neon Have fun, Valéry - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmITysACgkQRi2TsGSC4FZQEgCfdBCUsp8UmLSwS73XiCBsIe5n 19QAoIO6yxc/vdTTcA4uQnGQ1WslOZAU =u9cx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
It's a good guess... does mount say that it's still ro? i have flashed u-boot and it starts OK. reflashed qi and have the problem again. interestingly enough i tried to boot fso from nor menu once and then qi was able to boot it ok afterwards. so i am not sure what exactly happens there for the first time... the trouble is that i don't know how to change the ro flag for qi (i can imagine i could place a kernel on my card and add append file with rw and root=/dev/mtd device and of the nand flash?) -- Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] first total usable image
Ivan Shirokoff wrote: I've flashed SHR recently too. But occasionaly I've swiched my theme to absolutly unusible default one. And now I just can't switch back. I've looked through the configs in ~/.e/e/config and all of them are some kind of compiled data. I say does anyone know how can I change illume theme from console? If you don't mind losing your other illume configuration options you could just delete ~/.e then the next time illume starts it'll ask you what theme, language, etc. you want to use. Cheers, Mike. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list
Peter Nijs wrote: I've just read a (Dutch) news article (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/58158/microsoft-wil-brug-tussen-smartphone-en-pc- patenteren.html) which describes a new patent microsoft filed. In the article is a link to an English description of the patent. (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WONR=2009012344A2KC=A2FT=Ddate=20090122DB=EPODOClocale=en_US) The patent describes a dock for a smartphone, which connects to external devices such as a keyboard, mouse, screen,... wired or wireless. Now I think Openmoko already does a lot of these things, and other things have already been thought of. We can already hook up wired and wireless devices (such as mice and keyboards) to the Freerunner. I'm almost sure someone suggested hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically not possible, but it's been thought of. Integrating the wired connection between FR and the external devices has also been thought of earlier in this list. wikipedia says: a patent application must include one or more claims defining the invention which must be new, inventive, and useful or industrially applicable. one or more means that even if prior art exists, it can still be patented. This is different from intellectual property where anteriority prevent copyright. (at least in france) I'm not a lawyer, but since the patent was published on the 22th of January, I think for some parts of this patent, there is some sort of prior art involved. Also it wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft and Apple are eavesdropping on this list. (Note to Microsoft and Apple: Please don't steal our idea's. If you do: Please die a slow and painfull death.) mvg, depeje ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: London pub meet on the 11th
Jan Henkins wrote: Hi, 7:30 is good, OBoE sounds splendid! See y'all there! First person to be there, please hog a nicely sized table, and display something vaguely Moko-ish/Linux-ish/Computer-ish (Linux Format mag or anything siilarly geeky) on the table for others to spot. It's a nice trick shown to me by some greybeards heavily into the online-community thing. 7.30 at OBoE it is then. I'll be bringing another FR owner I work with, and given we're close to the area we should be able to get there a bit ahead of time and try for a table. Signage is also good. I'll print something out. having said that, I've done this sort of thing once or twice before, and you'd be surprised how many people miss the signs but find the group anyway... -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/London-pub-meet-on-the-11th-tp2255676p2263426.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list
Incredible. If I was the person that submitted this patent application, I would have done it under a false name, simply because I would have been ashamed. A great example of Patent System abuse. md -- Jon maddog Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) email: mad...@li.org 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association Board Member Emeritus: USENIX Association (2000-2006) (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. (R)Linux International is a registered trademark in the USA used pursuant to a license from Linux Mark Institute, authorized licensor of Linus Torvalds, owner of the Linux trademark on a worldwide basis (R)UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the USA and other countries. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list
one or more means that even if prior art exists, it can still be patented. This is different from intellectual property where anteriority prevent copyright. (at least in france) I think the issue here is in your word it. If it is the concept of a docking station, then there is prior art and that concept can not be patented. If it is the concept of automatic detection and configuration, there is plenty of prior art for that, and unless they have come up with something completely novel, then that would be thrown out also. At a cursory glance, I could not see anything that I considered novel. The problem with a patent like this one is that the patent itself is so broad MS would try to apply it to everything if it were granted. A daughter card for a motherboard could conceivably fit under this patent. md -- Jon maddog Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) email: mad...@li.org 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association Board Member Emeritus: USENIX Association (2000-2006) (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. (R)Linux International is a registered trademark in the USA used pursuant to a license from Linux Mark Institute, authorized licensor of Linus Torvalds, owner of the Linux trademark on a worldwide basis (R)UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the USA and other countries. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 15:11:40 Mathieu Rochette wrote: Peter Nijs wrote: I've just read a (Dutch) news article (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/58158/microsoft-wil-brug-tussen-smartphone-en -pc- patenteren.html) which describes a new patent microsoft filed. In the article is a link to an English description of the patent. (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WONR=20090123 44A2KC=A2FT=Ddate=20090122DB=EPODOClocale=en_US) The patent describes a dock for a smartphone, which connects to external devices such as a keyboard, mouse, screen,... wired or wireless. Now I think Openmoko already does a lot of these things, and other things have already been thought of. We can already hook up wired and wireless devices (such as mice and keyboards) to the Freerunner. I'm almost sure someone suggested hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically not possible, but it's been thought of. Integrating the wired connection between FR and the external devices has also been thought of earlier in this list. wikipedia says: a patent application must include one or more claims defining the invention which must be new, inventive, and useful or industrially applicable. one or more means that even if prior art exists, it can still be patented. This is different from intellectual property where anteriority prevent copyright. (at least in france) But it also seas it must be new. Which it isn't because it has been suggested on this list before. I'm not a lawyer, but since the patent was published on the 22th of January, I think for some parts of this patent, there is some sort of prior art involved. Also it wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft and Apple are eavesdropping on this list. (Note to Microsoft and Apple: Please don't steal our idea's. If you do: Please die a slow and painfull death.) mvg, depeje ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] opkg upgrade unsatisfied recommendation
Hi all, On SHR after opkg update; opkg upgrade, I see the following: task-base-usbhost: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-uhci-hcd task-base-usbhost: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-ehci-hcd task-base-usbhost: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-usbcore task-base-usbhost: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-usbhid task-base-usbhost: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-usbnet task-base-usbhost: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-usbmouse task-base-usbhost: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-mousedev What should I do with this information? Thanks, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] opkg upgrade unsatisfied recommendation
And also how to deal with this: Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for vala-terminal: * gtk+-fastscaling (= 2.10.14) * * Package bluez-utils wants to install file /etc/init.d/bluetooth But that file is already provided by package * bluez4 * Package bluez-utils wants to install file /etc/dbus-1/system.d/bluetooth.conf But that file is already provided by package * bluez4 Pander wrote: Hi all, On SHR after opkg update; opkg upgrade, I see the following: task-base-usbhost: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-uhci-hcd task-base-usbhost: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-ehci-hcd task-base-usbhost: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-usbcore task-base-usbhost: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-usbhid task-base-usbhost: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-usbnet task-base-usbhost: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-usbmouse task-base-usbhost: unsatisfied recommendation for kernel-module-mousedev What should I do with this information? Thanks, Pander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out
kimaidou wrote: Is it possible to release a version for Debian ? Since it is written in python, it should run smoothly ? Yes, if EFL library (evas, ecore, edje) and python bindings are available, it should run without changes. I develop Neon under debian so I am pretty sure of that. Unfortunately, I don't know how to build a debian package. :-( -- Valéry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: ... the trouble is that i don't know how to change the ro flag for qi (i can imagine i could place a kernel on my card and add append file with rw and root=/dev/mtd device and of the nand flash?) Hi Petr, Just create a textfile /boot/append-GTA02 and put whatever is needed as kernel parameters in there - here is mine: rw rootdelay=3 glamo_core.slow_memory=1 Refer to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi for more details Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/ 2009/2/3 Valery Febvre vfeb...@easter-eggs.com: kimaidou wrote: Is it possible to release a version for Debian ? Since it is written in python, it should run smoothly ? Yes, if EFL library (evas, ecore, edje) and python bindings are available, it should run without changes. I develop Neon under debian so I am pretty sure of that. Unfortunately, I don't know how to build a debian package. :-( -- Valéry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list
Peter Nijs wrote: On Tuesday 03 February 2009 15:11:40 Mathieu Rochette wrote: Peter Nijs wrote: I've just read a (Dutch) news article (http://tweakers.net/nieuws/58158/microsoft-wil-brug-tussen-smartphone-en -pc- patenteren.html) which describes a new patent microsoft filed. In the article is a link to an English description of the patent. (http://v3.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WONR=20090123 44A2KC=A2FT=Ddate=20090122DB=EPODOClocale=en_US) The patent describes a dock for a smartphone, which connects to external devices such as a keyboard, mouse, screen,... wired or wireless. Now I think Openmoko already does a lot of these things, and other things have already been thought of. We can already hook up wired and wireless devices (such as mice and keyboards) to the Freerunner. I'm almost sure someone suggested hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically not possible, but it's been thought of. Integrating the wired connection between FR and the external devices has also been thought of earlier in this list. wikipedia says: a patent application must include one or more claims defining the invention which must be new, inventive, and useful or industrially applicable. one or more means that even if prior art exists, it can still be patented. This is different from intellectual property where anteriority prevent copyright. (at least in france) But it also seas it must be new. Which it isn't because it has been suggested on this list before. (usefull, industrially applicable) IS one or more of (new, inventive, usefull, industrially applicable)). So if it hasn't yet been patented, it can. No need to be new. I do not like patent but it's how it is. I'm not a lawyer, but since the patent was published on the 22th of January, I think for some parts of this patent, there is some sort of prior art involved. Also it wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft and Apple are eavesdropping on this list. (Note to Microsoft and Apple: Please don't steal our idea's. If you do: Please die a slow and painfull death.) mvg, depeje ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
2009/2/3 Stefan Fröbe frob...@googlemail.com Just create a textfile /boot/append-GTA02 and put whatever is needed as kernel parameters in there - here is mine: rw rootdelay=3 glamo_core.slow_memory=1 Thanks ! That did the trick with my Qi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list
Peter Nijs wrote: I'm almost sure someone suggested hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically not possible Isn't it? You can get external USB gfx cards these days. Whether FR has the power to drive one, or if there are FOSS drivers, I have no idea. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/microsoft-patent-with-idea%27s-from-this-list-tp2263321p2263942.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.x] UMTS based on USB adapter
On Tuesday 03 February 2009, Matthias Apitz wrote: is there any way to use something like an USB-splitter to connect the USB of the FR to the modem and at the same time to a laptop? I don't think that'll be possible. You need the FR to be a USB host to connect to the modem, but a USB client to connect to the laptop. It is switchable between the two modes, but can't be both at the same time. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list
On Tuesday 03 February 2009, Gothnet wrote: Peter Nijs wrote: I'm almost sure someone suggested hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically not possible Isn't it? You can get external USB gfx cards these days. Whether FR has the power to drive one, or if there are FOSS drivers, I have no idea. IIRC the problem was that nobody could find one that would work with USB 1.1 because the bandwidth requirement was too high. Alternative proposals involved something like VNC or NX, but the display adaptor would end up being a more powerful linux box than the phone. It's probably a simple enough thing to make with a beagleboard. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out
did you try it on the current SHR unstable cause it doesn't start! It crashes! Thanks Tony On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.comwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Great app, thanks!! :D Valery Febvre ha scritto: Hi, A new release of Neon is available. This is a major feature enhancements release. Changes since 0.9.5.1: * Images can be now auto-rotated by images dimensions (not by EXIF data). In other words, image is rotated if image's orientation is landscape. A new command line option (-r, --auto-rotate) has been added to enable/disable this new feature. * Added timers to auto-hide image viewer navbar and toolbar. A new command line option -d (--bars-disappear-delay) has been added to adjust auto-hide delay of this new feature (disabled by default). This feature is disabled if delay is 0. * Added the index of the image, the total number of images and the image's size in addition of the image's name in the image viewer. * Added a slideshow functionnality. A new command line option -s (--slideshow-delay) has been added to adjust the interval (default 4 sec.). * Added images properties: dimension, size, EXIF metadata, ... * Added a new theme 'Black White'. A new command line option -t (--theme) has been added to choice the theme to used. As usual you can get it at: http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=239 BEWARE: If your system uses Python 2.6 (not 2.5) like SHR unstable, you must install alternative package neon_0.9.6-r0_all_py2.6.ipk Links: Project Homepage: http://neon.projects.openmoko.org/ Wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neon Have fun, Valéry - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmITysACgkQRi2TsGSC4FZQEgCfdBCUsp8UmLSwS73XiCBsIe5n 19QAoIO6yxc/vdTTcA4uQnGQ1WslOZAU =u9cx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
Hi, Same here. Needed the rw rootdelay=3 parameters for qi. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Freesmartphone.org-Milestone-5-%27Calling-All-Stations%27-Release-tp2261004p2264011.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:00 PM, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Same here. Needed the rw rootdelay=3 parameters for qi. And what to do when the problems occurs _without_ qi? Thanks ;) -- LC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
Hi, I have the QT on the rootfs, so I put the FSO on a uSD (I have installed the QI). ITS impossible to boot from the uSD, QI just seems to ignore the FSO and it just boots to NAND kernel.. I HAVE no problems with a similar uSD (has FDOM) but only with the FSO.. Chris -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Freesmartphone.org-Milestone-5-%27Calling-All-Stations%27-Release-tp2261004p2264127.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | 2009/2/3 Stefan Fröbe frob...@googlemail.com | mailto:frob...@googlemail.com | | | Just create a textfile /boot/append-GTA02 and put whatever is | needed as kernel parameters in there - here is mine: | rw rootdelay=3 glamo_core.slow_memory=1 It's glamo3362.slow_memory=1 to get the conservative memory bus timings for Glamos that need it. BTW ~ I added more tuning options if you kernel has this patch http://git.openmoko.org/?p=kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=7f859d161097631a3c76ed1dbb1cfcb08ebe9759 so you may be able to increase the speed from this. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmIb2oACgkQOjLpvpq7dMr3PgCfRWvegM8FoQtjcmXzhHtvf0we M/MAnjmYLGG5jqIDML7PcegifrmQ+QML =slV0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MyPaint 0.6
On Tuesday 03 February 2009, Konstantin wrote: Michele Renda schrieb: On 02/02/2009 23:05, Joachim Breitner wrote: these look as if the FreeRunner’s touch screen actually gives pressure input to the application. Is that really the case? I read from [1] it support pressure input and on some tables it run. But I don't know if really FR is able to give pressure indication to MyPaint. I highly doubt that the fr is able to do that - the graphics tablets I know rely on a stylus with a special tip with suspension to achieve different pressure levels, so I don't think it is possible with a normal resistive touchscreen. Resistive touchscreens have a completely different operating principle to graphics tablets, so you can't make that assumption. It would be like assuming a guitar pick would work as a stylus on an iphone because it works on gta02. It seems there is pressure info available from the hardware, but that it's not been possible to get it consistent over the whole screen. For more on what's actually being done see: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Touchscreen_Filters ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi, | | I have the QT on the rootfs, so I put the FSO on a uSD (I have installed the | QI). | | ITS impossible to boot from the uSD, QI just seems to ignore the FSO and it | just boots to NAND kernel.. | | I HAVE no problems with a similar uSD (has FDOM) but only with the FSO.. /boot/uImage-GTA02.bin is a workable kernel with correct CRC? /boot/noboot-GTA02 should not be present... Needs to be ext2 or ext3 in first three partitions. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmIb+AACgkQOjLpvpq7dMozFACdHT5J6iRsV0gu4PlHNb11vprp pM8AniH1LI72PJCY+J9B3y4VBIXWsHN/ =oEcj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4
Very nice thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
Hi Andy, | rw rootdelay=3 glamo_core.slow_memory=1 that's for a SHR kernel mentioned somewhere on this list ( uImage-2.6.28-rc4-ms5-fixes_34240a1c06ae3618.bin ) but not fixing the White/Noisy SOD for me. glamo3362.slow_memory=1 Your latest compiled kernel uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_andy-tracking-b72d8b4c5b7173a1.bin http://people.openmoko.org/andy/uImage-moredrivers-GTA02_andy-tracking-b72d8b4c5b7173a1.bin isn't cutting it for me as a re-suspends immeditaely when coming out of a suspend, so I couldn't try out this parameter. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | this happens only with qi. could it be related to ro kernel | parameter? It's a good guess... does mount say that it's still ro? Normally an initscript will take care about remount rw after it had opportunity to do fsck if it likes. Did it try to start X and left some log anywhere? - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmIIpAACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpCmACeLbwCJSG2xKQYNCGcSFtrQIg3 7icAn1wq/8sA0GFsIzIN27ZRdo+3XwV3 =PPsb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out
and if you succeed to some extent, I could mentor you a bit and we could push it into Debian (I am a DD). Unfortunately myself I have no spare time atm to yet another project to accomplish mission myself, but it should be quite easy. I would also suggest to simply look at some other python-driven app, e.g. cycle (just apt-get source cycle and cd in there), although I would recommend to use cdbs atm -- that would make debian/rules really tiny. On Tue, 03 Feb 2009, azmodie wrote: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/ 2009/2/3 Valery Febvre vfeb...@easter-eggs.com: kimaidou wrote: Is it possible to release a version for Debian ? Since it is written in python, it should run smoothly ? Yes, if EFL library (evas, ecore, edje) and python bindings are available, it should run without changes. I develop Neon under debian so I am pretty sure of that. Unfortunately, I don't know how to build a debian package. :-( -- Valéry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Don't like unsolicited calls?
Crane, Matthew wrote: The auto-detect routines that make a human or answering machine determination before switching to an operator seem to fail consistently when answering with my openmoko phone. I'd rather they didn't call at all, but at least when they do you don't have to listen to a sales pitch. A very good thing for sure. Well, this phone is programmable. Put the unwanted numbers on a blocking list, and have the FR auto-reject them without ringing. For something more creative, have the phone pretend to answer. It could listen to the sales pitch. When silence is detected, pick from a pool of short .wav files that say random stuff like interesting, tell me more, could you please repeat that?, just a momentnoises.where were we?, could you take it from the beginning, my aunt wants to hear about that too! Obviously, such a program should update the phone log with how much telemarketer time it has wasted. And a high-score list where you can see who has talked for the longest time before realizing that something was wrong. :-) Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow
1. norwegian does allow for conversion to roman-only text. there are rules much like german. 2. this conversion isn't used much and is a last resort thing. 3. only a few special letters are needed for common use cases in addition to latin Hi! I just giving you some perspective;) In Hungary the situation is much like the norvegian. We have two special accented character (ő,ű) which is not used in any other language all the other accent are present in the latin-1 char set (we use the latin-2 charset). In the early computer era ő was matched to õ and ű was matched to û so even the early microsoft word didnt care about those special characters (and used latin-1 charset instead). But it is a history now thanks to utf-8 (but is still a nightmare the accented filenames, especially when restoring broken harddrives;) There is no romanization here, but young people/computer addicts tend to type without accents, but you cant decrypt it by words, you need to understand the whole sentence. So simple word correction are not working. It is not like in Germany where you can write Tschüß, as Tschuess. So there was developed a standard (which are not used anymore, as there are no problem with accents nowaday), where all the accented characters are written using a char plus a punctuation. I give you an example: Öt szép szűz lány őrült írót nyúz O:t sze'p szuz la'ny oru:lt i'ro't nyu'z. Maybe you can use this idea. Or ignore utf-8 and use the corresponding is8859-1,2 etc charset, where one character is one byte. A simple word based dictionary is limited anyway for the hungarian language, where you can create a word as long as this: elkelkáposztástalaníthatatlanságoskodásaitokért. Hope it helps something. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out
Tony Berth wrote: did you try it on the current SHR unstable cause it doesn't start! It crashes! Yes, I use SHR unstable. For a first install, I think there is no problem. If a previous release of Neon was already installed, it is perhaps neccessary to delete a file. Can you look if the file /usr/bin/neon.pyo exists. If yes, remove it. If it's not the case, can you send me the output error? -- Valéry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] first total usable image
Steffen Winkler wrote: Three days ago, I installed the actual SHR onto my freerunner (testing or unstable...I think it was the unstable image, but not sure) and today, I can only say one thing: It's the best image I've ever seen! [...] Now I only need bluetooth and a good audio player (the pythm doesn't play .ogg files well...only I make a bad quality ogg file...) pythm plays .oggs for me, but I had to set renice=-15 in /etc/pythm.conf without that, the sound gets interrupted whenever you touch the screen or do anything. Renicing gives mplayer higher priority than screen updates, so when you run out of cpu power, it is the screen that slows instead of the music. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Don't like unsolicited calls?
2009/2/3 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no For something more creative, have the phone pretend to answer. It could listen to the sales pitch. When silence is detected, pick from a pool of short .wav files that say random stuff like interesting, tell me more, could you please repeat that?, just a momentnoises.where were we?, could you take it from the beginning, my aunt wants to hear about that too! Or, for the Python fans, I'm terribly sorry... I can't hear you, sir, could you try speaking in a lower register? [1] Obviously, such a program should update the phone log with how much telemarketer time it has wasted. And a high-score list where you can see who has talked for the longest time before realizing that something was wrong. :-) Brilliant :) [1] e.g. http://montypython.50webs.com/scripts/Series_1/82.htm ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list
Gothnet wrote: Peter Nijs wrote: I'm almost sure someone suggested hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically not possible Isn't it? You can get external USB gfx cards these days. Whether FR has the power to drive one, or if there are FOSS drivers, I have no idea. No problem. The dock may contain a powered usb hub - so no power problem. An external screen can be a serial terminal, and usb-to-serial converters certainly exists. Linux always had drivers for serial terminals, these days also the usb-to-serial converters. For something more modern, use X over the network. (usb network or wifi) The usb cable to the pc seems to do everything: It connects the phone to: * the pc keyboard (use ssh software) * the pc screen (ssh tunneling X) * the pc mouse (ssh tunneling X) * network connection, whatever network(s) the pc is accessing * I have no camera, but it can be done using SANE. Seems the cradle is the only missing component here, but phone cradles aren't exactly new either. I guess it is possible to overturn that patent, if anyone has a hobby of suing microsoft... Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list
Seems the cradle is the only missing component here Except the patent states that it doesn't have to include a cradle and, in fact, that a cable may be considered a feature. Well done Microsoft, you're trying to patent USB host mode on a phone... Joseph 2009/2/3 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: Gothnet wrote: Peter Nijs wrote: I'm almost sure someone suggested hooking up an external screen to it. That's technically not possible Isn't it? You can get external USB gfx cards these days. Whether FR has the power to drive one, or if there are FOSS drivers, I have no idea. No problem. The dock may contain a powered usb hub - so no power problem. An external screen can be a serial terminal, and usb-to-serial converters certainly exists. Linux always had drivers for serial terminals, these days also the usb-to-serial converters. For something more modern, use X over the network. (usb network or wifi) The usb cable to the pc seems to do everything: It connects the phone to: * the pc keyboard (use ssh software) * the pc screen (ssh tunneling X) * the pc mouse (ssh tunneling X) * network connection, whatever network(s) the pc is accessing * I have no camera, but it can be done using SANE. Seems the cradle is the only missing component here, but phone cradles aren't exactly new either. I guess it is possible to overturn that patent, if anyone has a hobby of suing microsoft... Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list
2009/2/3 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: I guess it is possible to overturn that patent, if anyone has a hobby of suing microsoft... Not exactly, but close: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neelie_Kroes ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: [...] yeah. this is one reason i want toi understand how it works without ø, æ etc. - one day there will be a phone with a kbd.. and it wont have a version per language because the # of users in norway are too small to warrant a special production run for them - same for germany, france etc. etc. - until you have the sales numbers to justify that.. you need a way to either work around it by ignoring them - or have software correct it. so software that works eventually with a hw kbd and inserts the right ø, æ etc. based off normal a-z typing... would be useful. If we someday get an open phone with a keyboard, then I hope they are smart enough to make enough keys. (In my case, both the q row and the a row needs 11 keys) No problem if the keytops are painted with an english layout - I can paint. As long as they don't let the top row end in p... Surely, when there is a kayboard anyway, a couple of extra keys won't cost much. Not if they are on all phones, instead of only adapted ones. The americans can use the extras as application hotkeys. Another approach - let the keyboard be an extra touchscreen that is wide - in the shape of a keyboard. Then we can program the kayboard like we can today. Of course this keyboard-screen can be cheaper - monochrome, low resolution, maybe no backlight. i just want to understand the constraints of the languages i don't know - and how they are used. it gives me insight into how to solve the problem on a wider picture. thanks for the info. Glad to be of help. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MyPaint 0.6
On 03/02/2009 17:18, Al Johnson wrote: It seems there is pressure info available from the hardware, but that it's not been possible to get it consistent over the whole screen. For more on what's actually being done see: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Touchscreen_Filters I'd like to ask, if someone installed this program (or another painting program) if has problem when is drawing. I explain: go on upper conner and draw something. Then put the pen up, and make a point in the bottom part of the screen: To me it happen that a line go from up to down, like I never putted up the pen. Someone else is experiencing the same problem? Thank you Michele Renda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Conflict when several apps use the accelerometers?
Hendrik Siedelmann wrote: [...] Yes, I too think it would be useful for a longer period. In a time of 3-5 seconds one could propably get away with simply projecting the route at signal loss with constant speed. And I think navit snaps to streets anyway, so it wouldn't matter if its off by a bit. Unfortunately, navit snaps to the roads above the tunnel too. :-/ If I take the trouble of connecting to the car in order to get speedometer data, I can also get a digital compass. Those two together should be able to help the gps anywhere. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
Hi, Andy Green wrote: It's a good guess... does mount say that it's still ro? Can't check. Busybox seems to be down too. Andy Green wrote: Did it try to start X and left some log anywhere? Well, all logs are on volatile - which evaporates when i try to mount the uSD card on my PC. Tried changing the syslog.conf file - but that didn't help either. Though that must be something I'm doing wrong :-) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Freesmartphone.org-Milestone-5-%27Calling-All-Stations%27-Release-tp2261004p2262829.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New Release of GuitarTune v0.20 (based on Alsa)
Hi, Well, here's the new release of Guitar Tune http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2254283/guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk (download) . Also available on opkg.org and http://guitartune.googlecode.com/ guitartune.googlecode.com . It's based on alsa and automatically selects the appropriate alsa state. Have tested on FSO Milestone 4 and kernel 2.6.28. and it should work on SHR too. Source code is available http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2254283/guitartune-0.2.tar.gz here. The freq detection is slow and needs optimisation. Currently you should get to see something in about a second. I know the GUI and the DSP part should be in two threads. Need to do that yet. Feedback is welcome. I need help to speed up the DSP part of the code. Unfortunately I'm not able to get back access to guitartune.projects.openmoko.org. So, the code is now browseable http://code.google.com/p/guitartune/source/browse/ here . -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/New-Release-of-GuitarTune-v0.20-%28based-on-Alsa%29-tp2263173p2263173.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out
Hi Is it possible to release a version for Debian ? Since it is written in python, it should run smoothly ? thanks in advance 2009/2/3 Francesco de Virgilio fradev...@gmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Great app, thanks!! :D Valery Febvre ha scritto: Hi, A new release of Neon is available. This is a major feature enhancements release. Changes since 0.9.5.1: * Images can be now auto-rotated by images dimensions (not by EXIF data). In other words, image is rotated if image's orientation is landscape. A new command line option (-r, --auto-rotate) has been added to enable/disable this new feature. * Added timers to auto-hide image viewer navbar and toolbar. A new command line option -d (--bars-disappear-delay) has been added to adjust auto-hide delay of this new feature (disabled by default). This feature is disabled if delay is 0. * Added the index of the image, the total number of images and the image's size in addition of the image's name in the image viewer. * Added a slideshow functionnality. A new command line option -s (--slideshow-delay) has been added to adjust the interval (default 4 sec.). * Added images properties: dimension, size, EXIF metadata, ... * Added a new theme 'Black White'. A new command line option -t (--theme) has been added to choice the theme to used. As usual you can get it at: http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=239 BEWARE: If your system uses Python 2.6 (not 2.5) like SHR unstable, you must install alternative package neon_0.9.6-r0_all_py2.6.ipk Links: Project Homepage: http://neon.projects.openmoko.org/ Wiki page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neon Have fun, Valéry - -- Francesco de Virgilio *Ubuntu-it Member and Wiki Editor* mailto:frad...@ubuntu-it.org http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/FrancescoDeVirgilio *Wikimedia Italia Member* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fradeve11 *OpenStreetMap Mapper* http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Fradeve11 *Blog* http://fradeve.netsons.org Love - Peace - Freedom - Free Software GPG 0x6482E056 (FP B996 A12C BD52 2A9B CDD3 812D 462D 93B0 6482 E056) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmITysACgkQRi2TsGSC4FZQEgCfdBCUsp8UmLSwS73XiCBsIe5n 19QAoIO6yxc/vdTTcA4uQnGQ1WslOZAU =u9cx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.x] UMTS based on USB adapter
El día Tuesday, February 03, 2009 a las 02:35:06PM +0100, DJDAS escribió: Matthias Apitz ha scritto: Hello, Is anybody using UMTS connections with the FR based on USB connected modem devices like the USB HSDPA Huawei E220 one? Any other ideas as devices? Thx matthias Yes, I do and it works pretty well (not considering battery drain ;) ) You can find some informations here [1]. I'm sorry they're in Italian as they're some little guidelines to achieve HSDPA connection given to a forum user, I hadn't time yet to put up a how-to, but just following the scripts and using an automatic translator should help you. :) P.S. where you see FDTF consider it a distro built onto an FDOM version of September with some customizations (themes, some progs and Italian keyboards) so consider it an FDOM ;) Have fun! Bye! [1] http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,1035.msg10579.html#msg10579 Thanks for the pointer. I do Spanish and so I can read the page. :-) Your modem is as well Huawei E220? I have had one borrowed by Vodafone and it worked well on my FreeBSD laptop too; but I was asked to return it :-( do you have an idea where to buy one in EU without a contract of UMTS? I have an UMTS SIM but only a PCMCIA card :-( is there any way to use something like an USB-splitter to connect the USB of the FR to the modem and at the same time to a laptop? matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC GmbH Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e matthias.ap...@oclc.org - w http://www.oclc.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
High Resolution freerunner photos
Hi, Where can I found some HiRes photos of the freerunner ? I've already download the press photos. Thanks, Mickael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometers in Kernel 2.6.28-rc4
There is a quick workaround for this that can be done I believe. Any hint where I can find this workaround, then I'll post it to the wiki? Greets Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Valery Febvre vfeb...@easter-eggs.comwrote: Tony Berth wrote: did you try it on the current SHR unstable cause it doesn't start! It crashes! Yes, I use SHR unstable. For a first install, I think there is no problem. If a previous release of Neon was already installed, it is perhaps neccessary to delete a file. Can you look if the file /usr/bin/neon.pyo exists. If yes, remove it. If it's not the case, can you send me the output error? -- Valéry the 'neon.pyo' file doesn't exist at all and 'yes' I had the previous version installled before upgrading! When I click on the icon I just get the generic error screen 'Application Execution Error' with no further info I don't know if that was any help to you? Thanks Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Report] - Buzz fix
Steve Mosher wrote: If you've done a fix, send me photos, your contact information and I'll send you some belated gifts for the holiday. Special bonus for people who post vids. Just send a mail to elsie, chelsea and me and we'll decide on some goodies. Hey! I could also bribe a friend of a friend (with a beer each) to apply the buzz fix according to the latest SOP. It works! At least it did on the first test call. I had the buzz on every single phone call before the fix so I assume that it really solved the problem. Thanks a lot for everyone involved! I can't provide any pictures as I haven't done the fix myself. We used a resistor of size 1206 which was a little though to fit in the cover so I advice you to follow the SOP and use 0402ers. :) Unfortunately SHR unstable refused to connect with my laptop after a opkg update/upgrade which is the reason why I'm reflashing my FR atm with FSO M5. I'm glad I haven't sold my FR yet - I was getting close to do so recently... ;-) Best regards Chris -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-ReportBuzz-fix-tp1678823p2265023.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Release of GuitarTune v0.20 (based on Alsa)
Hi, Sounds like a great app! any change of getting this to work on 2008.12 ? Kind regards, Ed c_c wrote: Hi, Well, here's the new release of Guitar Tune http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2254283/guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk (download) . Also available on opkg.org and http://guitartune.googlecode.com/ guitartune.googlecode.com . It's based on alsa and automatically selects the appropriate alsa state. Have tested on FSO Milestone 4 and kernel 2.6.28. and it should work on SHR too. Source code is available http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2254283/guitartune-0.2.tar.gz here. The freq detection is slow and needs optimisation. Currently you should get to see something in about a second. I know the GUI and the DSP part should be in two threads. Need to do that yet. Feedback is welcome. I need help to speed up the DSP part of the code. Unfortunately I'm not able to get back access to guitartune.projects.openmoko.org. So, the code is now browseable http://code.google.com/p/guitartune/source/browse/ here . ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
strange.. I get an glamo33362.slow_memory unknown boot option should I upgrade the QI? chris Andy Green wrote: glamo3362.slow_memory=1 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Freesmartphone.org-Milestone-5-%27Calling-All-Stations%27-Release-tp2261004p2265242.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
Just create a textfile /boot/append-GTA02 and put whatever is needed as kernel parameters in there - here is mine: rw rootdelay=3 glamo_core.slow_memory=1 Refer to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi for more details Stefan, i understand that this is when you run system from sd card. i run system from NAND and for that i need to edit the boot environment but although i can boot into NOR, then set console to USB and then run picocom /dev/ttyACM0 what i don't know about is what parameters i have to issue with the setenv command to alter the default boot option. The wiki only says: ...and you'll see the messages on boot. If it's NAND right now you need to edit the default commandline in Qi for gta02 I had tried to place kernel on my sd card and set append parameters via append file to actually redirect it by root=/dev/mtdblock4, but the kernel gets panicked as it cannot mount the jffs partition of root=/dev/mtdblock4 I had flashed u-boot back but would love to use qi again as it can start the neo on a short pwr press, has no logo and is faster... -- petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: MyPaint 0.6
I foward this to ML, because I don't know if the email from Martin is accepted by ML. On 03/02/2009 21:15, Martin Renold wrote: On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 10:26:12PM +0100, Michele Renda wrote: The only problem was the sensitivity of the touchscreen. It happen that when a person put the pen UP the screen continue to think that it is still down. I think it can be fixed by software, but I am not so sure! As a workaround, try to disable pressure sensitivity: Edit - Settings - Mode for Input devices - Disabled If someone wants to debug, the code is in gui/tileddrawwidget.py around line 120. Of course it could also be the driver's fault. The nokia internet tablet community had very similar issues with 0.5.0 (still unresolved I think), including different pressure sensitivity on different areas of the screen: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16079 bye, Martin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] first total usable image
Not per GUI but per terminal it should work...haven't tried it (wifi) For USB I've to plug-in the neo, then kill the NetworkManager, restart /etc/init.d/networking and start the NetworkManager the usb interface has to be defined in the /etc/network/interfaces (Ubuntu 8.10) then a sudo ifconfig usb0 up and you can connect to the FR per SSH Am Dienstag, den 03.02.2009, 13:33 -0700 schrieb bburde...@comcast.net: Steffen Winkler wrote: Three days ago, I installed the actual SHR onto my freerunner (testing or unstable...I think it was the unstable image, but not sure) and today, I can only say one thing: It's the best image I've ever seen! What about wifi and/or usb networking? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | | On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz | mailto:van...@penguin.cz wrote: | | ... | i understand that this is when you run system from sd card. i run | system from NAND and for that i need to edit the boot environment | | ... | I had flashed u-boot back but would love to use qi again as it can start | the neo on a short pwr press, has no logo and is faster... | | | Not sure I understood what you wanted correctly, so please don't | hesitate to ask again - but if you want to use Qi to boot from NAND the | procedure is the same as from SD-Card: No this isn't so regrettably, since it would make a lot more sense than how it is. For NAND it uses the kernel in the third NAND partition same as U-Boot and mounts the sixth partition as rootfs same again as U-Boot would. We'd need a jffs2 filesystem parser and to wait for the mount action to complete to get the kernel if we did it the right way, so we do NAND for GTA02 the compatible way. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmIuFsACgkQOjLpvpq7dMrFFQCfQX5OlrSZK2FRslJgyt0yXZxt EKYAn2Z+AyICuhaHUuOZJZ5U7keb1yOM =fCsi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Release of GuitarTune v0.20 (based on Alsa)
c_c wrote: Hi, Well, here's the new release of Guitar Tune http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2254283/guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk (download) . Cool, I want to try it, but i get: $ opkg install guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk Installing guitartune (0.20) to root... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for guitartune: * libfftw3-3 * on SHR, where can I find libfftw3-3? I've searched in http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/ but couldn't find it. Which distribution do you use? be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu eMail: natanaela _at_ gmx.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Release of GuitarTune v0.20 (based on Alsa)
Natanael wrote: c_c wrote: Hi, Well, here's the new release of Guitar Tune http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2254283/guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk (download) . Cool, I want to try it, but i get: $ opkg install guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk Installing guitartune (0.20) to root... Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for guitartune: * libfftw3-3 * on SHR, where can I find libfftw3-3? I've searched in http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/ but couldn't find it. Which distribution do you use? Ok, thankyou I've found my answer on http://www.opkg.org/package_115.html opkg install libglade-2.0 gtk+ http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2007/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libfftw3-3_3.1.2-r1_armv4t.ipk http://www.opkg.org/packages/guitartune_0.20_arm.ipk be blessed Natanael -- Web: http://natanael.comiles.eu eMail: natanaela _at_ gmx.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg-deb
On 03/02/2009 22:43, Jeffrey Ratcliffe wrote: Given that there are some applications (e.g. navit) which are updated regularly for opkg, but not for deb, it occurred to me that as the file formats are so similar, it shouldn't be so hard to write a script to convert from one to the other. Before I spent any time on this, has anyone beaten me to it? Hello, I think you are speaking about a alien for opkg :) I don't know if exist a package for this. The problem is not to convert a opkg in deb, is pretty standard. The problem is to manage all the dependency. The better solution is according me to maintain a list, in the wiki, with a list of software present only as opkg, and one list of software present only as deb, and package all this software.. I think Navit must to be one of the first that need to be packaged, because, with Tango Gps, are the only software to use in efficent way our FR. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 09:13:50 -0500 Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org said: Incredible. If I was the person that submitted this patent application, I would have done it under a false name, simply because I would have been ashamed. A great example of Patent System abuse. bah - it will be a real name. he want is patent filing bonus. they will pay him a nice sum of cash for every patent awarded under his name for ms. the shame is bearable as it comes with a nice lump of green to fix it :) md -- Jon maddog Hall Executive Director Linux International(R) email: mad...@li.org 80 Amherst St. Voice: +1.603.672.4557 Amherst, N.H. 03031-3032 U.S.A. WWW: http://www.li.org Board Member: Uniforum Association Board Member Emeritus: USENIX Association (2000-2006) (R)Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds in several countries. (R)Linux International is a registered trademark in the USA used pursuant to a license from Linux Mark Institute, authorized licensor of Linus Torvalds, owner of the Linux trademark on a worldwide basis (R)UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group in the USA and other countries. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:28:49 +0100 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no said: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: [...] yeah. this is one reason i want toi understand how it works without ø, æ etc. - one day there will be a phone with a kbd.. and it wont have a version per language because the # of users in norway are too small to warrant a special production run for them - same for germany, france etc. etc. - until you have the sales numbers to justify that.. you need a way to either work around it by ignoring them - or have software correct it. so software that works eventually with a hw kbd and inserts the right ø, æ etc. based off normal a-z typing... would be useful. If we someday get an open phone with a keyboard, then I hope they are smart enough to make enough keys. (In my case, both the q row and the a row needs 11 keys) No problem if the keytops are painted with an english layout - I can paint. As long as they don't let the top row end in p... Surely, when there is a kayboard anyway, a couple of extra keys won't cost much. Not if they are on all phones, instead of only adapted ones. The americans can use the extras as application hotkeys. oh its not the extra keys - its the variations in production. the moment you have a variation (with different # of keys, different layout of them) you have a change in plastic mould - thats costly (if doing things via molds a new mold costs upward of $US 60,000-100,000 or more). so if all you have is 500 customers in that country - that'd be an up-front cost of maybe 100k to just supply that market, and then for 500 people - IF you sell that many, it'd be $12-$20 extra per unit in costs. to cover the risk of not selling all your production you may have to raise retail prices by $50-$100 more over the mass produced item. now imagine its only 100 customers in that region, or 50. just a change in printing whats on the keys is not free. software keyboards are by far the cheaper option :) but if a hardware keyboard is there - changes of lots of variations per locale being around, unless you sell the kind of volume nokia do, is slim to none. :( Another approach - let the keyboard be an extra touchscreen that is wide - in the shape of a keyboard. Then we can program the kayboard like we can today. Of course this keyboard-screen can be cheaper - monochrome, low resolution, maybe no backlight. of course! i've actually mulled this idea with a clear plastic overlay that contains the mechanical contacts (done in a way that they dont obscure the middle of the key) and just have a normal lcd under it... have an extra lcd or just a bigger single lcd shared with the main one... :) thus a soft-hard-keyboard happens. as long as the # of buttons are ok (you can cover most use cases with the buttons there) then software can vary the painting and layout runtime. this might be the best middleground solution for a hardware keyboard for when low volume productions limit the ability to have custom molds/paint runs due to the small customer bases per locale. it sucks. but english is the lowest common denominator and thus most things tend to be built to support it - as it tends to keep more people happier than some other setup. if there was enough volume to make enough units for a particular language/locale/country - it'd be different. :) i just want to understand the constraints of the languages i don't know - and how they are used. it gives me insight into how to solve the problem on a wider picture. thanks for the info. Glad to be of help. Helge Hafting -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:36:26 +0100 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com said: 1. norwegian does allow for conversion to roman-only text. there are rules much like german. 2. this conversion isn't used much and is a last resort thing. 3. only a few special letters are needed for common use cases in addition to latin Hi! I just giving you some perspective;) In Hungary the situation is much like the norvegian. We have two special accented character (ő,ű) which is not used in any other language all the other accent are present in the latin-1 char set (we use the latin-2 charset). In the early computer era ő was matched to õ and ű was matched to û so even the early microsoft word didnt care about those special characters (and used latin-1 charset instead). But it is a history now thanks to utf-8 (but is still a nightmare the accented filenames, especially when restoring broken harddrives;) There is no romanization here, but young people/computer addicts tend to type without accents, but you cant decrypt it by words, you need to understand the whole sentence. So simple word correction are not working. It is not like in Germany where you can write Tschüß, as Tschuess. ok - so if a young person typed: Öt szép szűz it'd be: Ot szep szuz right? So there was developed a standard (which are not used anymore, as there are no problem with accents nowaday), where all the accented characters are written using a char plus a punctuation. I give you an example: Öt szép szűz lány őrült írót nyúz O:t sze'p szuz la'ny oru:lt i'ro't nyu'z. Maybe you can use this idea. Or ignore utf-8 and use the corresponding is8859-1,2 etc charset, where one character is one byte. nah. this heavily precludes expansion. 1 byte is 256 chars. try cram in russian, greek, thai, hindi.. etc. into that space. not going to work. so you keep flipign charsets and have special code per charset... no thanks :) A simple word based dictionary is limited anyway for the hungarian language, where you can create a word as long as this: elkelkáposztástalaníthatatlanságoskodásaitokért. ugh. so its like german. compound words get created a lot by just stringing multiple words together without a space. that's ok- as long as there arent a massive set of them... :) Hope it helps something. Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] illume predictive keyboard is too slow - Usability features
On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 20:15:53 +0100 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net said: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:53:26 +0100 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net said: However in the past days I sent you privately also a mail about some issues of the keyboard in latest e17 svn [1], but I got no answer. Maybe the mail wasn't sent correctly?! got it - i just tend to ignore some of my mailboxes for a while and cycle around to them... got a lot of email here :) i'll get back to you on it. it just is that kbd isnt a focus at the moment so it tends to take a back-burner position. Ah, ok... It's understandable... They seem unrelated, but why not workarounding them by allowing these actions only after a small timeout (i.e. waiting few ms from the latest char pressure)? so lets say 0.4 sec after the last keyboard key press it will allow for swipes and match hits etc. that could be done. again - tuning a timing value. will people then complain that :i often try and swipe or hit a match and it doesnt respond. i need to do it again?. h. Maybe 0.4 seconds is too much. I think that we could use a lower value too. And maybe configurable directly from the keyboard (also if I don't think that this is needed at all). Generally you never confirm a word or switch keyboard as fast as you type over a char (since typing can be un-precise thanks to the keyboard correction, switching a keyboard or selecting a word must be precise)... correct. it's a fine line to walk tho - as above :) And... What about making the horizontal word list (the one over the keys) scrollable [right-left] as the configuration toolbar is? Would it require more computation? I figure that that could improve the usability. no - it'd be not much of a problem - i just didnt do it. :) Ok, so please put it in your/illume TODO :P :) nb - i can see why you often hit a match word. your kbd layout doesnt have padding ABOVE the qwerty line like the default does... :) Yes. That's true. But people could have also keyboards with more keys than the mine (see Norwegians :P), and make the words-list and the keys closer. The fact is that also using the default qwerty keyboard, that has more padding, it could happen to hit a word if you're writing while walking/driving[ehm... :P]/talking (or simply writing quickly)... Don't you agree? oh indeed it can happen.. but its much less likely - it never has happened to me, thus why i think its probably ok. but with that padding removed on your kbd, i can see how it becomes much more probable you hit these things at the top. you should just add more padding :) the problem is the kbd wont resize per layout atm so the default determines the size so if yours is the default then just make sure it has padding and the problem should go away. -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] FR survey and locations
How do I find out what version my neo is? Do I have to open it? On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Thomas Otterbein th.otterb...@gmx.netwrote: Dear all, questions about buying a FR now or later, waiting for this or that software and using this or that distribution arrive on a regular basis on this list. I read them all although I'm usually quite unhappy with the answers that happen to arrive on such a mailing. IMHO they represent -naturally- rather the authors personal liking of a certain distro than a neutral perspective on the most common issues (buzz, echo, battery, etc.). I understand that it depends a lot on the concrete device (revision) one uses and the circumstances (location, provider, gsm band, etc.) it's used in and -of course- on the personal expectations. So here's my approach to get the most urgent questions answered by a large group of users while allowing to take the decession on a most neutral base of data. I created a survey with the most important questions - at least to me but I'm happy to optimize it to make it usefull for a larger group of people. The questions are: What revisions of the FR are are out there and in use? What distro is used at the most? How many are (still) suffering from buzz/echo? Is there any indication that these problems are located or more frequent in certain corners of the world? The survey is a simple Google-Form. You can see the any entered records as a sheet here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg To take part in the survey click here: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg I also created a Google-Map where everyone can enter the location of his or her FR, so people, who would like to see and/or touch it before buying their own, could find the closest FR-owner http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8hl=enmsa=0msid=115352610340426907999.000461ec26b35ac3fad63z=7 The Google-Form offers a kind of summary too, which may show some usefull statistics if enough FR-owners take part in the survey. However it cannot, for whatever reason, be made public. If someone is interessted I'll publish the summary somewhere else then. Thanks in advance for your support! Regards thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Pablo Miño ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] first total usable image
Steffen Winkler wrote: Three days ago, I installed the actual SHR onto my freerunner (testing or unstable...I think it was the unstable image, but not sure) and today, I can only say one thing: It's the best image I've ever seen! What about wifi and/or usb networking? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microsoft patent with idea's from this list
2009/2/3 Peter Nijs pe...@familienijs.be: On Tuesday 03 February 2009 20:10:08 arne anka wrote: btw: there's one of these foss organisations doing exactly what we want -- looking for prior art and questioning patents. if anybody knows their address, drop 'em a note ... Do you mean this one? http://openinventionnetwork.com/ I think perhaps arne meant this one: http://linuxdefenders.org/ - although maybe they're related. I found the LD site via the OIN site. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Report] - Buzz fix
2009/2/1 Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com: We have a SOP for people who want to do it by themselves or for others, but there are several other elements missing from the process that would allow us to help the non DIY folks. One thing that probably I have just got a friend of mine to do both the big-C and SD/GPS fixes. TTFF was 24s on first attempt, when I have never had it below 40s before. The buzz seems to be also gone, but I need a couple of days to confirm, as it was not always reproducible. Good job! Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: London pub meet on the 11th
Hello all, what snow? Got promised about 10cm of the white stuff for two days running, didn't even get one overall! (That's in Oxford, btw). So envious whenever I see pics from virtually everywhere else in England (it seems). I shall try to come to the pub meet, however work might get in the way. Hopefully see you next week, then! Tina On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 02:52:08 -0800 (PST) Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net wrote: Gothnet wrote: Hello all, So, it's a couple of weeks since the last thread, are we still having a pub meet on the 11th? I've looked at the pubs suggested, and my vote's on the Old Bank of England on Fleet street. I don't like Sam Smith's beer and OBoE is lazily close to work :) So who's available and could sup a couple of beers and chat about the state of the world/phone? I'm Dave, by the way, and only used to be a goth, though the name kinda stuck. This plan does, of course, rely on the snow stopping at some point. It's years since I've seen this much snow. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
opps.. the message saye glamo3362.slow_memory NOT glamo33362 as i wrote! Chris Syntichakis wrote: strange.. I get an glamo33362.slow_memory unknown boot option should I upgrade the QI? chris Andy Green wrote: glamo3362.slow_memory=1 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Freesmartphone.org-Milestone-5-%27Calling-All-Stations%27-Release-tp2261004p2265336.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: ... i understand that this is when you run system from sd card. i run system from NAND and for that i need to edit the boot environment ... I had flashed u-boot back but would love to use qi again as it can start the neo on a short pwr press, has no logo and is faster... Not sure I understood what you wanted correctly, so please don't hesitate to ask again - but if you want to use Qi to boot from NAND the procedure is the same as from SD-Card: - setup your /boot directory (in NAND!) with the Qi specific files uImage-GTA02.bin (needed), append-GTA02 (optional) and noboot-GTA02 (you don't want that) exactly as you would for an SD-Card partition - then power up normally - if you have Qi set up for any of the first 3 partitions on SD-Card they would first be booted : Therefore press AUX just after the FR vibrates once for every partition you want to skip, then as a final resort NAND will be tried. Or, put noboot-GTA02 to skip automatically wherever appropriate. HTH, Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freesmartphone.org Milestone 5 'Calling All Stations' Release
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | | opps.. the message saye glamo3362.slow_memory NOT glamo33362 as i wrote! Wah my mistake... it really is glamo_core, it appears in /sys as /sys/module/glamo_core/parameters/slow_memory I read my wrong comment in the source and gave you advice when you were already right, sorry about that. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkmIqFQACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpkCgCfTAnQZRHfM++R7eRHAxT+dO85 8ykAniRJNkFRylNoNsryMmH8tkT10Nh2 =JIDm -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community