GTA01 Modified Handset

2008-01-30 Thread Christopher Earl
Ok everone, I got the Handset today and GSM 850 WORKS! Audio sounds good and Test call was a success. I will be sending the phone off to its next stop soon. Thanks to Michael Shiloh for arranging the test and i hope this leads to good things for the 850Mhz band

quantum step on Neo

2008-01-30 Thread rakshat hooja
I just saw the following link. http://www.quantum-step.com/wiki.php?page=OpenMoko-Editionreferer=About According to this it seems that it is possible to at least boot quantum step on the Neo. Anyone know if the PIM applications on quantum step are usable on the the Neo. I currently use Ubuntu

Emacspeak on the Neo!

2008-01-30 Thread Gilles Casse
Hello, Emacspeak is the audio desktop, the talking emacs developed by TV Raman: http://emacspeak.sf.net It is beginning to work on OpenMoko / Neo1973 :-) The aim is to be able to edit or read long texts eyes free with just an external keyboard, an earphone and the Neo. Please note that the

Re: I'm back with my neo.. where to begin?

2008-01-30 Thread Christopher Earl
I like the unstable OM images from 1/27/08 if your not in a GSM 800 area this should work for you andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/28/08 4:19 PM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Guys, I don't want to start a whole I've just bought a neo - what do I do thread.. so I'm going to keep

Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
Has anyone who actually has hardware right now tried/had luck running a full featured VOIP application in OpenMoko? I'd much rather see Gizmo than Skype, especially since it looks like it's integrated into GrandCentral (http://www.grandcentral.com/) and is based on open standards (and closed

Re: Nokia to acquire Trolltech to accelerate software strategy

2008-01-30 Thread Lalo Martins
Also spracht Jeffrey Thomas (Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:59:50 -0600): But qtopia is probably really the better choice for a phone. And yet OpenMoko is using GTK shudder But qtopia is probably *better* than maemo. Nobody said it's the best. best, Lalo

Wanted: beta testers for QuantumSTEP on the Neo GTA01

2008-01-30 Thread Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller
Hi all, we are now looking for beta (well, it is more alpha) testers for the new Cocoa/GNUstep/X11 based GUI stack and SDK for the Neo. Requirements: a) you own a GTA01b4 (we need to install a special kernel version), b) have a Mac with at least MacOS X 10.4, c) have (some) experience in

Re: I'm back with my neo.. where to begin?

2008-01-30 Thread andy selby
Interesting note on the qtopia image I tried.. they'd receive texts, but not *appear* to register on the network/allow calls. All academic as this is the openmoko list though. Do you mean the the signal strength meter did not show but a message saying no network did? I've come across a way

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-30 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi Tony, That's an excellent question. Fortunately it has a simple answer. The answer to your question is that we, OpenMoko, do understand the power management issues, and it has been addressed in GTA02. The unknown parts are that I, personally, don't know exactly what caused this problem,

Neo GTA01 sold out?

2008-01-30 Thread rakshat hooja
Hi, Just checking if all Neo 1973 basic kits been sold out. Will more devices be made avaliable? Rakshat On Jan 29, 2008 2:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send community mailing list submissions to community@lists.openmoko.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit

Re: quantum step on Neo

2008-01-30 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 29.01.2008 um 15:30 schrieb rakshat hooja: I just saw the following link. http://www.quantum-step.com/wiki.php?page=OpenMoko- Editionreferer=About According to this it seems that it is possible to at least boot quantum step on the Neo. Anyone know if the PIM applications on quantum

Re: Neo GTA01 sold out?

2008-01-30 Thread Juan Luis Prieto Martinez
I am not sure but... Does it means that you want to finish the stock because the new version GTA02 is comming soon? If the answer is YES, this would be a good advance for the project. I am fairly sure that a lot of people, like me, are waiting to have wifi and a more functional device to get one.

Re: Neo GTA01 sold out?

2008-01-30 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Jan 29, 2008 3:39 PM, rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just checking if all Neo 1973 basic kits been sold out. Will more devices be made avaliable? Rakshat, it seems you replied to the 'daily digest' of the messages, and your message contained lots of messages that you didn't

Re: Wanted: beta testers for QuantumSTEP on the Neo GTA01

2008-01-30 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 30.01.2008 um 12:33 schrieb Thomas Gstädtner: Maybe you should have mentioned, that your project and the SDK is not OpenSource and not available in source. Yes and no - there is no blackwhite answer. The total QuantumSTEP system is not 100% open source but approx. 80%. These 80% are

FM Tuner for RDS on the Neo ?

2008-01-30 Thread Lionel Dricot
Hello, I'm very interested by the Neo1973 and I was thinking about doing some hardware/software hacking on it. I have several questions. 1) I want to develop an application linked to a FM tuner (with data, like RDS). Any idea on how I could add a FM tuner on a neo 1973 ? Maybe with USB ? Or a

Re: FM Tuner for RDS on the Neo ?

2008-01-30 Thread Tilman Baumann
Lionel Dricot wrote: Hello, I'm very interested by the Neo1973 and I was thinking about doing some hardware/software hacking on it. I have several questions. 1) I want to develop an application linked to a FM tuner (with data, like RDS). Any idea on how I could add a FM tuner on a neo 1973 ?

Re: FM Tuner for RDS on the Neo ?

2008-01-30 Thread Lionel Dricot
How about a dedicated radio box with separate batteries and remote control and sound via Bluetooth. Bluetooth has a audio profile, and adding a simple control port sounds not too impressive to me. It doesn't fit in my needs for RDS and TMC, unfortunatly :-( (or at least, I don't see how to

Re: GTA01 Modified Handset

2008-01-30 Thread Tim Shannon
That's great. I really hope those handsets are available at the same time as the 900 band phones. On Jan 28, 2008 8:03 PM, Christopher Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok everone, I got the Handset today and GSM 850 WORKS! Audio sounds good and Test call was a success. I will be sending the

Re: Wanted: beta testers for QuantumSTEP on the Neo GTA01

2008-01-30 Thread geniere90
Dear Dr. Nikolaus Schaller, I'd like to test QuantumSTEP, but I don't have a mac. It's a big problem for me: for example, I'd like to write a review on my neo1973-dedicated blog [1], but I can't... I'm really interested in this project, and I was planning to translate something, even a user

Re: ***[Possible UCE]*** Re: Wanted: beta testers for QuantumSTEP on the Neo GTA01

2008-01-30 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Dear Ugo Raffaele Piemontese, Am 30.01.2008 um 15:07 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear Dr. Nikolaus Schaller, I'd like to test QuantumSTEP, but I don't have a mac. It's a big problem for me: for example, I'd like to write a review on my neo1973-dedicated blog [1], but I can't... I'm

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread Christopher Earl
you can do calls with asterisk, its just all console for now the command is 'console dial [EMAIL PROTECTED]' and it is also a server Colan Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/30/08 11:47 AM On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 06:13:17PM -0700, Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote: Has anyone who actually has hardware

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread Colan Schwartz
On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 06:13:17PM -0700, Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote: Has anyone who actually has hardware right now tried/had luck running a full featured VOIP application in OpenMoko? I'd much rather see Gizmo than Skype, especially since it looks like it's integrated into GrandCentral

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread Christopher Earl
may as well just wait for the asterisk GUI cause OM uses GTK not QT so it would require some serious editing, however the serverless idea is good Michael Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/30/08 12:00 PM the serverless instant messenger http://retroshare.sf.net (Qt gui) will have soon as well VOIP

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread Michael Schmidt
yes, but it is not about serverless or any instant messenger, it is the only way, to have **secure** VOIPs. as well users do not need a telephone call, they can to the calls with VOIP over a data internet flat rate from the mobile phone. Voip is not in yet, and then it would be in with QT gui, no

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread Christopher Earl
My only concern is i am not aware of qt lib port to OM yet, If you know of one please let me know i would be interested for sure. Michael Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/30/08 12:21 PM yes, but it is not about serverless or any instant messenger, it is the only way, to have **secure** VOIPs. as

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread Mikko J Rauhala
On ke, 2008-01-30 at 18:00 +0100, Michael Schmidt wrote: the serverless instant messenger http://retroshare.sf.net (Qt gui) will have soon as well VOIP and VIDEO Chat, and this is quite good for openmoko, as this is an encrypted one, so you are safe, that no third party is hearing your

Re: Wanted: beta testers for QuantumSTEP on the Neo GTA01

2008-01-30 Thread Jeff Andros
Is it possible to create a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list for stuff on the alternate software distro's? It seems kind of wierd that we're using openmoko's lists to discuss its competitors -- Jeff O|||O ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread Michael Schmidt
the serverless instant messenger http://retroshare.sf.net (Qt gui) will have soon as well VOIP and VIDEO Chat, and this is quite good for openmoko, as this is an encrypted one, so you are safe, that no third party is hearing your Voips. On Jan 30, 2008 5:47 PM, Colan Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FM Tuner for RDS on the Neo ?

2008-01-30 Thread Jeff Andros
On Jan 30, 2008 6:07 AM, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip This is a usual question. Although you could configure the USB port in host mode. It would be unpowered. snip Regards Tilman I haven't heard anything about it for a while, but IIRC freerunner is supposed to have a powered

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
the serverless instant messenger http://retroshare.sf.net (Qt gui) will have soon as well VOIP and VIDEO Chat, and this is quite good for openmoko, as this is an encrypted one, so you are safe, that no third party is hearing your Voips. (http://gizmoproject.com/learnmore-nokia800.html).

Re: Wanted: beta testers for QuantumSTEP on the Neo GTA01

2008-01-30 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Not required IMHO... 1. Alternate distros or projects usually have their own discussion lists (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) 2. QuantumSTEP uses many parts of OpenMoko and just replaces some parts. See it as an alternate Application Suite. Am 30.01.2008 um 18:01 schrieb Jeff Andros: Is it

Re: GTA01 hacked Handset for testing 850MHz circuit for GTA02

2008-01-30 Thread Michael Shiloh
Great news Christopher, Remember everyone, this is a specially modified GTA01 that we are using to test the suitability of the circuit for GTA02. We have no plans to modify or to sell GTA01 for 850MHz, nor can we modify yours. As Christopher alludes to below, the handset Christopher is using

Re: FM Tuner for RDS on the Neo ?

2008-01-30 Thread Tilman Baumann
Jeff Andros wrote: On Jan 30, 2008 6:07 AM, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip This is a usual question. Although you could configure the USB port in host mode. It would be unpowered. snip Regards Tilman I haven't heard anything about it for a while, but IIRC freerunner is

Re: FM Tuner for RDS on the Neo ?

2008-01-30 Thread Christopher Earl
the GTA02 will provide 5v at 100mA on the USB Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/30/08 1:27 PM Jeff Andros wrote: On Jan 30, 2008 6:07 AM, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip This is a usual question. Although you could configure the USB port in host mode. It would be unpowered.

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread joerg
Am Mi 30. Januar 2008 schrieb Colan Schwartz: Other options are http://ekiga.org/ and http://www.openwengo.org/. They both do SIP. I know about Ekiga because it ships with Ubuntu, and it's completely open source. I don't know that much about OpenWengo. www.twinklephone.com. Qt based, so

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread joerg
Am Mi 30. Januar 2008 schrieb Mikko J Rauhala: On ke, 2008-01-30 at 18:00 +0100, Michael Schmidt wrote: the serverless instant messenger http://retroshare.sf.net (Qt gui) will have soon as well VOIP and VIDEO Chat, and this is quite good for openmoko, as this is an encrypted one, so you

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread joerg
Am Mi 30. Januar 2008 schrieb Jeremiah Flerchinger: Ekiga is just a client package and doesn't contain a server component, What for do you want to have a server on GTA? BTW linphone is no way different in this aspect AFAIK. like asterisk. There is also linPhone (http://www.linphone.org/),

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread Brandon Kruse
I am working in an iax2 gtk client now, check out http://bkruse.com. (mokoiax) I then plan to port a sip client (nothing like gizmo) Gizmo hates freedom. Its closed. Please do not turn this mostly open platform into a commercial playground. Brandon Kruse

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread Brandon Kruse
On Jan 30, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Colan Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 06:13:17PM -0700, Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote: Has anyone who actually has hardware right now tried/had luck running a full featured VOIP application in OpenMoko? I'd much rather see Gizmo than

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread Brandon Kruse
I have ported asterisk and the Ipkg is available at http://bkruse.com along with a beta cli iax client. Having problems with binding to the mic...but we will see. Brandon Kruse (bkruse) On Jan 30, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Christopher Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread Brandon Kruse
Just go to the asterisk GUI web interface I can package it up now and works in the OM browser. Brandon Kruse (bkruse) On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:06 AM, Christopher Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: may as well just wait for the asterisk GUI cause OM uses GTK

What soft phone to port?

2008-01-30 Thread Brandon Kruse
I am going to fully port a sip client (besides the iax client I am already working on) This is a flame-free thread :) I want your input on what sip client you like, why, and in your opinion, how easy would it be to adapt to the OM platform? Take into account portability and libraries.

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread Brandon Kruse
On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Jeremiah Flerchinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the serverless instant messenger http://retroshare.sf.net (Qt gui) will have soon as well VOIP and VIDEO Chat, and this is quite good for openmoko, as this is an encrypted one, so you are safe, that no third

Re: Wanted: beta testers for QuantumSTEP on the Neo GTA01

2008-01-30 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Wednesday 30 January 2008 18:53:58 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Not required IMHO... 1. Alternate distros or projects usually have their own discussion lists (e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]) 2. QuantumSTEP uses many parts of OpenMoko and just replaces some parts. See it as an alternate

Re: GTA01 Modified Handset

2008-01-30 Thread Christopher Earl
Upgrading the Memory is not a problem, just pop in a bigger microSD upgrading the NAND would be totaly different and not serve much of a purpose, you can use the ipkg that lets you install apps directly on the SD and link the libs and stuff, there is a wiki that will help you do this. about the

Re: Gizmo for Skype-like functionality in Neo?

2008-01-30 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
joerg wrote: Am Mi 30. Januar 2008 schrieb Jeremiah Flerchinger: Ekiga is just a client package and doesn't contain a server component, What for do you want to have a server on GTA? BTW linphone is no way different in this aspect AFAIK. I personally wouldn't want a server on the

Re: GTA01 Modified Handset

2008-01-30 Thread Lally Singh
Whoops, I meant RAM (128 mb on the current unit). Yeah, I was afraid it was just the two. At least t-mob's been good to me in the past. On Jan 30, 2008 10:48 PM, Christopher Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upgrading the Memory is not a problem, just pop in a bigger microSD upgrading the NAND

Re: GTA01 Modified Handset

2008-01-30 Thread Lally Singh
Oh, the 128 is onboard storage. What *is* the onboard CPU RAM on this thing? Is it just what's built onboard the CPU? On Jan 30, 2008 11:27 PM, Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoops, I meant RAM (128 mb on the current unit). Yeah, I was afraid it was just the two. At least t-mob's

Re: GTA01 Modified Handset

2008-01-30 Thread Christopher Earl
The 64MB of NAND flash aka 'on board Flash 'is just for the Kernel and Root File system, although the Root FS could be loaded onto the MicroSD card; which is located under the SIM slot, i believe that up to 4GIG is available on MicroSD. The GTA01 ships with a 512MB card. so all in all you get

Worries are gone? (was FM Tuner for RDS on the Neo ?)

2008-01-30 Thread Oliver
Wow! That's really great news as that and battery time were my two main worries. It would be lovely if Michael could: 1) Confirm/Deny wether GTA02 will have a powered USB port 2) Go into more detail of how GTA02 power management has improved over GTA01. /Oliver I haven't heard anything about it

Re: What soft phone to port?

2008-01-30 Thread Jeremiah Flerchinger
I personally don't care much which sip client would be ported. I would like to a sip client that could be eventually integrated with the address book, dialer, webkit (for clicking on sip links) or other apps, to some extent, in the future. I don't know how well all of the different apps

GTA02 powered USB host port and power management (Was: Re: Worries are gone? (was FM Tuner for RDS on the Neo ?))

2008-01-30 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi Oliver, Oliver wrote: Wow! That's really great news as that and battery time were my two main worries. It would be lovely if Michael could: 1) Confirm/Deny wether GTA02 will have a powered USB port GTA02 will have a powered USB port. 2) Go into more detail of how GTA02 power management