Re: OpenMooCow 0.3

[William Kenworthy]

speech-dispatcher on 2008.9 also killed all audio (phone, mplayer, sms
beeps, ...) after suspend/resume.  Was ok before the first suspend.

Billk

On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 22:54 +0100, Petr Vanek wrote:
> >> I've seen audio break before due to a mismatch of kernel modules.
> >> Does audio work in any other programs for you?
> >
> >I had the same problem... modprobe snd-pcm-oss helped :-)
> 
> sorry to reply on wrong place in thread but gmane news server sometimes
> doesn't have the message available...
> 
> /etc/init.d/speech-dispatcher stop was the right solution for me,
> therefore i presume for all SHR users...
> 
> cheers
> 
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Re: Bluetooth headset GUI configuration

[Angus Ainslie]

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Simon Kagstrom
 wrote:
>
>
> I've tried these instructions on both FSO and SHR now, and it works on
> neither of them. BtConfigure.py never finishes after having entered the
> PIN.
>

There seems to be a problem with the passkey agent on FSO based
distos. I'll try and look at it in the next few days.

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Re: Bluetooth headset GUI configuration

[Angus Ainslie]

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Denis Shulyaka  wrote:
> 2008/12/19 Simon Kagstrom :
>> I've tried these instructions on both FSO and SHR now, and it works on
>> neither of them. BtConfigure.py never finishes after having entered the
>> PIN.
>
> Same here on FDOM. I get "DBus error" in console, I didn't dig any further.
>


Which DBus error ?

Angus

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RE: OpenMooCow 0.3

[KaZeR]

 

> -Message d'origine-
> De : community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org 
> [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de 
> Thomas White
> Envoyé : vendredi 19 décembre 2008 15:21
> À : community@lists.openmoko.org
> Objet : Re: OpenMooCow 0.3
> 
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:24:23 +0100
> "KaZeR"  wrote:
> 
> > > my SHR doesn't play the sound... am i missing something?
> > > Unable to open audio: No available audio device
> 
> > I had the exact same issue last week (haven't tried again 
> since, and 
> > i'm currently flashing 2008.12)
> 
> This sounds odd.  OpenMooCow uses SDL for all the audio work, 
> and the "No available audio device" part of that messages 
> comes from SDL itself.
> So this could indicate a problem with SDL or something lower-level.
> 
> I've seen audio break before due to a mismatch of kernel 
> modules.  Does audio work in any other programs for you?
> 

I had sound in other applications (vagalume, phone calls, etc).


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Re: [Debian] Wlan and suspend/resume

[Timo Juhani Lindfors]

Fox Mulder  writes:
> Is in this om 2.6.24 kernel also any sysfs file which i can use?

Afaik not.

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Re: 2008.12 illume theme

[Ole Kliemann]

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:28:23PM +0800, John Lee wrote:
> try disable qtopia under /etc/X11/Xsession.d first, restart X,
> finish the config, move qtopia back...

Thanks all. This way it works.

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Re: [Debian] Wlan and suspend/resume

[Fox Mulder]

Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> Fox Mulder  writes:
>> My problem now is, that i can't find any suitable file for wlan. I only
> 
> Which kernel? andy-tracking de473 has one for wlan too.
> 
> Btw, I have a similar script too. It tells me how many percentage
> units of capacity per hour were lost during suspend when the phone resumes.

At the moment i use the openmoko kernel testing-om-gta02-20081216.uImage
because last time i tried andy-tracking it didn't work very well because
of the many sysfs changes.
Is in this om 2.6.24 kernel also any sysfs file which i can use?

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Re: OpenMooCow 0.3

[Max Giesbert]

i can confirm that the addition of a category is necessary in order for
the icon to appear...

Am Freitag, den 19.12.2008, 14:44 +1300 schrieb Harald "Zophon"
Zophoniasson:
> 2008/12/19 Thomas White 
> OpenMooCow 0.3 is now available:
> http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~taw27/openmoko/openmoocow/
> 
> Changes since version 0.2 are:
> 
> - My finest "programmer art" has been banished to a suitable
> place,
> namely the fiery depths of Hades.  It's been replaced with
> some much
> better graphics from openclipart.org.  It's a public domain
> image, but I
> thought I'd give a credit to user "bsantos" who created the
> picture.
> 
> - Disables the accelerometer threshold while it's running.
>  This makes
> the cow a lot more responsive.  Your old threshold will be
> restored
> on exit, unless the threshold value has been changed from zero
> since
> MooCow started, in which case it won't restore the old one.
> 
> - Ready for kernel 2.6.28 - aware of the new sysfs paths.
> 
> - Thinkpad HDAPS support from Joachim Breitner has been merged
> in.
> 
> Comments or abuse to this address.
> 
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> Thanks for the graphics improvement ;-), I think it was necessary.
> Works fine on SHR, just one thing I have to change the .desktop and
> add a category (for example "Applications"), in order to have the
> shortcut displayed.
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Re: OpenMooCow 0.3

[Michael Zanetti]

On Friday 19 December 2008 22:13:21 Yann Neveu wrote:
> On Friday 19 December 2008 21:22:03 Klaus Kurzmann wrote:
> > I had the same problem... modprobe snd-pcm-oss helped :-)
>
> For me, /etc/init.d/speech-dispatcher stop helped
>

Yeah... This seems to work here also. But anyone has an idea what speech-
dispatcher does? Don't we need it? The chance is rather high that it is more 
useful than openmoocow :D

No offence... I love openmoocow!

/Michael

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Re: OpenMooCow 0.3

[Petr Vanek]

>> I've seen audio break before due to a mismatch of kernel modules.
>> Does audio work in any other programs for you?
>
>I had the same problem... modprobe snd-pcm-oss helped :-)

sorry to reply on wrong place in thread but gmane news server sometimes
doesn't have the message available...

/etc/init.d/speech-dispatcher stop was the right solution for me,
therefore i presume for all SHR users...

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Re: [Report] - Buzz fix

[Jim Morris]

Michael Zanetti wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I just wanted to let you know that I have applied the Buzz fix to my 
> Freerunner 
> revision A5 according to this [1] paper and indeed the buzz is completely 
> gone. Including the echo fix my Neo converted from the coolest toy to the 
> coolest _phone_ I've ever had.
> 

Ok, so how/when will OM offer a fix for end users? This fix is way beyond my 
skills to do.


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Re: debian on freerunner

[Andy Green]

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| Hi,
|
| Am Fr, den 19.12.08 um 01:53 schrieb Jos vd Snepscheut:
|> I have been installing debian on my SD cart using this script:
|> wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh
| with 'QI=true QI_VERBOSE_BOOT=true ./install.sh all' ?
|
|> on mmcblk0p2 there is / (root) and /boot
|> in /boot there is append-GTA02 and uImage-GTA02.bin
| this files should be in /boot/boot.

Is this /boot on that partition mounted on /boot on another partition
then?  Qi makes the assumption that the partition the kernel is coming
from is the rootfs.

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Re: OpenMooCow 0.3

[Yann Neveu]

On Friday 19 December 2008 21:22:03 Klaus Kurzmann wrote:

> I had the same problem... modprobe snd-pcm-oss helped :-)

For me, /etc/init.d/speech-dispatcher stop helped

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Re: debian on freerunner

[Michael]

Hi,

Am Fr, den 19.12.08 um 01:53 schrieb Jos vd Snepscheut:
> I have been installing debian on my SD cart using this script:
> wget http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh
with 'QI=true QI_VERBOSE_BOOT=true ./install.sh all' ?

> on mmcblk0p2 there is / (root) and /boot
> in /boot there is append-GTA02 and uImage-GTA02.bin
this files should be in /boot/boot.

> did this all by following the debian wikki
...
debian-gta02:~# cd /boot 
debian-gta02:/boot# mkdir boot 
debian-gta02:/boot# ln -s ../uImage.bin boot/uImage-GTA02.bin 
debian-gta02:/boot# echo "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 loglevel=8" 
>boot/append-GTA02
...

greets 
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Re: Importing Contacts from Thunderbird

[Giorgio Marci]

No problem, it's a pleasure!

We all hope for contacts support soon so..stay tuned! ;)

  - Original Message -
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  Subject: Re: Importing Contacts from Thunderbird
  Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:44:11 +0100

  Ok giorgio
  Thanks for your reply. So I will wait a bit :)

  2008/12/19 Giorgio Marci 

Vcf file contacts impork works only on OM based distribution and
Qtopia/Qtextended. SHR is based on frameworkd that doesn't
suppoert (yet) contacts import.

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Re: Bluetooth headset GUI configuration

[Al Johnson]

On Friday 19 December 2008, Simon Kagstrom wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:52:08 +0300
>
> "Denis Shulyaka"  wrote:
> > 2008/12/19 Simon Kagstrom :
> > > I've tried these instructions on both FSO and SHR now, and it works
> > > on neither of them. BtConfigure.py never finishes after having
> > > entered the PIN.
> >
> > Same here on FDOM. I get "DBus error" in console, I didn't dig any
> > further.
>
> I'm reading the bluez howto:
>
>http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/HOWTO/AudioDevices
>
> to get some further hints. The dbus stuff there also doesn't seem to
> work:
>
>   r...@om-gta02:~# dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.bluez
> /org/bluez org.bluez.Manager.ActivateService string:audio Error
> org.bluez.Error.NoSuchService: No such service
>
> (SHR this time). Reading this:
>
>   http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.bluez.user/13108
>
> it seems like bluez-utils have been compiled without --enable-audio.
> Could this be the problem?

Do you have bluez-audio or bluez-utils-alsa installed? They aren't in FSO by 
default.

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Re: Importing Contacts from Thunderbird

[kimaidou]

Ok giorgio
Thanks for your reply. So I will wait a bit :)

2008/12/19 Giorgio Marci 

> Vcf file contacts impork works only on OM based distribution and
> Qtopia/Qtextended. SHR is based on frameworkd that doesn't suppoert (yet)
> contacts import.
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Re: Bluetooth headset GUI configuration

[Simon Kagstrom]

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:52:08 +0300
"Denis Shulyaka"  wrote:

> 2008/12/19 Simon Kagstrom :
> > I've tried these instructions on both FSO and SHR now, and it works
> > on neither of them. BtConfigure.py never finishes after having
> > entered the PIN.
> 
> Same here on FDOM. I get "DBus error" in console, I didn't dig any
> further.

I'm reading the bluez howto:

   http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/HOWTO/AudioDevices

to get some further hints. The dbus stuff there also doesn't seem to
work:

  r...@om-gta02:~# dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez 
org.bluez.Manager.ActivateService string:audio
  Error org.bluez.Error.NoSuchService: No such service

(SHR this time). Reading this:

  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.bluez.user/13108

it seems like bluez-utils have been compiled without --enable-audio.
Could this be the problem?

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Re: Importing Contacts from Thunderbird

[Giorgio Marci]

Vcf file contacts impork works only on OM based distribution and
Qtopia/Qtextended. SHR is based on frameworkd that doesn't suppoert (yet)
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Re: OpenMooCow 0.3

[Klaus Kurzmann]

* Thomas White  [081219 15:24]:
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:24:23 +0100
> "KaZeR"  wrote:

> > > my SHR doesn't play the sound... am i missing something?
> > > Unable to open audio: No available audio device 

> > I had the exact same issue last week (haven't tried again since, and
> > i'm currently flashing 2008.12)

> This sounds odd.  OpenMooCow uses SDL for all the audio work, and the
> "No available audio device" part of that messages comes from SDL itself.
> So this could indicate a problem with SDL or something lower-level.

> I've seen audio break before due to a mismatch of kernel modules.  Does
> audio work in any other programs for you?

I had the same problem... modprobe snd-pcm-oss helped :-)

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Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

[carmen]

On Fri Dec 19, 2008 at 10:17:40AM +0100, Michael Zanetti wrote:
> On Friday 19 December 2008 02:10:59 W.Kenworthy wrote:
> 
> > Actually, please add a camera.  Many techos (that is those who work in
> > technical areas) use the mobile phone camera in their work.  I.e.,
> > photos of situations, faults etc for reference/passing on to support
> > etc.  Only one device to carry, and its always with you.  Yes early ones
> > were barely adequate (I used a Palm treo for this), but others moved
> > onto nokias etc when they came with better cameras.
> >
> 
> The other side: Many techos (especially those working in automotive branch) 
> are not even allowed to use mobile phones with cameras at work...
> 
> I know... In the end it is a personal preference... But I still stand on my 
> opinion that the camera is the last important thing that we need. When we 
> have 
by the time i get around to feeling like i want a phone,

im sure ASUS and ACER will have their androind-capable/linux-capable phones out

and quite likely, theyll mildly trounce gta03 in price/performance


just like netbooks. all over again. does FIc even hav eone?


> 3G connectivity I will stop ranting against cameras :)
> 
> > And how many controversial situations hit the news where a mobile phone
> > camera was used as its on the spot and available?
> 
> Again... personal preferences... But I really hate such stories where some 
> low-end-prominence got captured in somewhat not situation by some idiot with 
> his mobile phone camera where you can hardly think of what it should be 
> because the picture is totally underexposed... It really makes me sick that 
> people don't have better things to do...
> 
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Re: [Report] - Buzz fix

[Paul]

Sargun Dhillon wrote:
> At the local university electronics lab they have SMD soldering
> equipment (scops, irons, etc...).

Aye... Unfortunately "local university" presents a bit of a problem, as 
in that there is none... *grin*

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Re: Bluetooth headset GUI configuration

[Denis Shulyaka]

2008/12/19 Simon Kagstrom :
> I've tried these instructions on both FSO and SHR now, and it works on
> neither of them. BtConfigure.py never finishes after having entered the
> PIN.

Same here on FDOM. I get "DBus error" in console, I didn't dig any further.

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Re: [Report] - Buzz fix

[Sargun Dhillon]

At the local university electronics lab they have SMD soldering
equipment (scops, irons, etc...). I'm sure you could scout out some
grad students, and giving them the proper diagrams, parts, and
reimbursement to fix your freerunner.

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:51 AM, "Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster"
 wrote:
> Paul schrieb:
>>> I just wanted to let you know that I have applied the Buzz fix to my 
>>> Freerunner
>>> revision A5 according to this [1] paper and indeed the buzz is completely
>>> gone. Including the echo fix my Neo converted from the coolest toy to the
>>> coolest _phone_ I've ever had.
>>>
>>
>> Good for you. I had a look at the PDF and already know I am not going to
>> attempt that. I know what side of a soldering device to hold, and that's
>> where my knowledge ends...
>>
>> ;-)
>> Paul
>>
> Even if you had more knowledge: a decent smd soldering device can be
> nearly as expensive as the fr. That's why I dont own such a thing (had a
> cheap one-> broke down ->no warrenty ->me running around swearing -> me
> opening the case -> me finally smashing the whole thing with sledgehammer)
>
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Re: Importing Contacts from Thunderbird

[Will Siddall]

I've only tested it on 2008.12 and I know it's the same for 2008.8.
I would think that just as long as you're using the Qtopia contacts
app, this would need to be done.

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:18 PM, kimaidou  wrote:
> Hi
>
> thanks for your feedback ! Does it work on SHR, or only on Om distos ?
>
> Kimaidou
>
> 2008/12/19 Will Siddall 
>>
>> Hey,
>> I know there's a wiki item for this, but I just have to send it to
>> everyone.  I want to edit the wiki, but I don't know if anyone has run
>> into this problem yet.
>>
>> The wiki shows to install a VCF plugin for thunderbird then just
>> import the VCF into your contacts app.  I had a lot of problems with
>> this and actually found that the format of the VCF file doesn't match
>> what 'addressbook' is looking for.
>>
>> Instead, here are the steps I found to work and if anyone can confirm
>> this, I will add it to the wiki.
>>
>> 1: Export your addressbook/contacts to VCF file(s)
>> 2: From your terminal, run:
>>sed -r -e 's/;TYPE=([^,]+),([^:]+):/;\1;\2:/g' old.vcf > new.vcf
>> 3: From your OpenMoko, run:
>>addressbook new.vcf
>>
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Re: Importing Contacts from Thunderbird

[kimaidou]

Hi

thanks for your feedback ! Does it work on SHR, or only on Om distos ?

Kimaidou

2008/12/19 Will Siddall 

> Hey,
> I know there's a wiki item for this, but I just have to send it to
> everyone.  I want to edit the wiki, but I don't know if anyone has run
> into this problem yet.
>
> The wiki shows to install a VCF plugin for thunderbird then just
> import the VCF into your contacts app.  I had a lot of problems with
> this and actually found that the format of the VCF file doesn't match
> what 'addressbook' is looking for.
>
> Instead, here are the steps I found to work and if anyone can confirm
> this, I will add it to the wiki.
>
> 1: Export your addressbook/contacts to VCF file(s)
> 2: From your terminal, run:
>sed -r -e 's/;TYPE=([^,]+),([^:]+):/;\1;\2:/g' old.vcf > new.vcf
> 3: From your OpenMoko, run:
>addressbook new.vcf
>
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Re: [Report] - Buzz fix

[Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster]

Paul schrieb:
>> I just wanted to let you know that I have applied the Buzz fix to my 
>> Freerunner 
>> revision A5 according to this [1] paper and indeed the buzz is completely 
>> gone. Including the echo fix my Neo converted from the coolest toy to the 
>> coolest _phone_ I've ever had.
>> 
>
> Good for you. I had a look at the PDF and already know I am not going to 
> attempt that. I know what side of a soldering device to hold, and that's 
> where my knowledge ends...
>
> ;-)
> Paul
>   
Even if you had more knowledge: a decent smd soldering device can be 
nearly as expensive as the fr. That's why I dont own such a thing (had a 
cheap one-> broke down ->no warrenty ->me running around swearing -> me 
opening the case -> me finally smashing the whole thing with sledgehammer)


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Importing Contacts from Thunderbird

[Will Siddall]

Hey,
I know there's a wiki item for this, but I just have to send it to
everyone.  I want to edit the wiki, but I don't know if anyone has run
into this problem yet.

The wiki shows to install a VCF plugin for thunderbird then just
import the VCF into your contacts app.  I had a lot of problems with
this and actually found that the format of the VCF file doesn't match
what 'addressbook' is looking for.

Instead, here are the steps I found to work and if anyone can confirm
this, I will add it to the wiki.

1: Export your addressbook/contacts to VCF file(s)
2: From your terminal, run:
sed -r -e 's/;TYPE=([^,]+),([^:]+):/;\1;\2:/g' old.vcf > new.vcf
3: From your OpenMoko, run:
addressbook new.vcf

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Re: Bluetooth headset GUI configuration

[Simon Kagstrom]

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:52:20 -0700
"Angus Ainslie"  wrote:

> > So: Do any of the distributions allow easy use of bluetooth
> > headsets?
> 
> A search of the wiki brings up this
> 
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Bluetooth_Headset_on_Freerunner

I've tried these instructions on both FSO and SHR now, and it works on
neither of them. BtConfigure.py never finishes after having entered the
PIN.

I also tried the A2DP instructions, with similar results. After having
installed bluez-utils-alsa I get

  r...@om-gta02 ~ $ aplay bark.wav 
  bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)
  aplay: main:546: audio open error: Connection refused

If anyone has this working, how did you do it? What distribution are
you running?

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Re: [Report] - Buzz fix

[Paul]

> I just wanted to let you know that I have applied the Buzz fix to my 
> Freerunner 
> revision A5 according to this [1] paper and indeed the buzz is completely 
> gone. Including the echo fix my Neo converted from the coolest toy to the 
> coolest _phone_ I've ever had.

Good for you. I had a look at the PDF and already know I am not going to 
attempt that. I know what side of a soldering device to hold, and that's 
where my knowledge ends...

;-)
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Re: Graphical text editor ?

[Sam Kuper]

2008/12/19 kimaidou 

> I am using my freerunner with a keyboard connected via USB. When I want to
> create/modify a text document, I use nano or vi.
> It works great (fast, low cpu-usage) but It lacks some funcionnalities I am
> looking for :
> * Wrap text at the end of line
> * Line number show
> * graphical way of selecting files to open.
>
> I would like to know if someone knew a bit about that ?


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Graphical text editor ?

[kimaidou]

Hi all

I am using my freerunner with a keyboard connected via USB. When I want to
create/modify a text document, I use nano or vi.
It works great (fast, low cpu-usage) but It lacks some funcionnalities I am
looking for :
* Wrap text at the end of line
* Line number show
* graphical way of selecting files to open.

I would like to know if someone knew a bit about that ? The best would be a
port of scite on the FR

Thanks in advance

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[Report] - Buzz fix

[Michael Zanetti]

Hi!

I just wanted to let you know that I have applied the Buzz fix to my Freerunner 
revision A5 according to this [1] paper and indeed the buzz is completely 
gone. Including the echo fix my Neo converted from the coolest toy to the 
coolest _phone_ I've ever had.

I'm flashing 2008.12 right now. *very excited*

Very big thanks to everyone involved working out this one!
And thank you openmoko (the whole team) for this wonderful product!

Michael

[1] http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/GSM_EMI_noise/big-
C_rework_SOP__DRAFT3__.pdf

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Re: Navit add destination

[Nathan Kinkade]

2008/12/19 KaZeR :

>> Is navigation only available with the prebuilt OSM binary map
>> data for Navit?  I have one of the prebuilt planet.bin files
>> and I can successfully (well, somewhat) search for towns,
>> etc.  However, I also downloaded 2 other smaller binary maps
>> files from http://maps.navit-project.org/download/ and there
>> seems to be no searchable town data in those files, or at
>> least Navit doesn't find any when I try to search a town.
>> The only one it finds is some place called "Matei" when I enter an M.
>>
>> Sorry if this is somewhere on the Navit site, I ddin't see it.
>>
>
> Don't worry, documentation needs a big cleanup and expand :)
>
> In what countries are those maps?

I have 3 binary-type map files.  The planet map files is from Sept.
28, 2008 (planet-080928.bin).  I downloaded it from
http://maps.navit-project.org/ a few months ago.  The other two maps I
downloaded just a few days ago using the "Planet extract" tool at
http://maps.navit-project.org/download/.   For one of them I made a
box around the entire United States, and for the other I made a box
around the entire state of Florida (U.S.).

The prebuilt planet file seems to have searchable city/street data,
but the two I downloaded via the Planet Extract tool don't seem to
have any searchable data.  There are two reasons that I really want to
reduce the size of the map files.  First, searching is somewhat slow
for the entire planet. :-)  Second, since the search results for the
data don't indicate state/district, I may get dozens of towns by the
same name and have no way of knowing which state it's in.  The "view
on map" option, besides being tedious, doesn't seem to work as I would
expect.  It shows the map for a few seconds then returns to the main
map and I have to start all over again, and the map it did show for a
few seconds was at a zoom-level at which I couldn't tell what I was
looking at.

Thanks!

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Re: [Android] koolu first beta release

[Cédric Berger]

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 17:14, Giorgio Marci  wrote:

> Koolu has released the first Android OS beta release.
>
> Does anyone have tried it?
>

I flashed it.
I did not notice significant changes from Sean's image of 5 dec. (yet ?)
- Software keyboard has been modified with bigger keys.
- Cannot turn on bluetooth anymore

Did not try GSM yet.
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RE: Navit add destination

[KaZeR]

 

> -Message d'origine-
> 
> Is navigation only available with the prebuilt OSM binary map 
> data for Navit?  I have one of the prebuilt planet.bin files 
> and I can successfully (well, somewhat) search for towns, 
> etc.  However, I also downloaded 2 other smaller binary maps 
> files from http://maps.navit-project.org/download/ and there 
> seems to be no searchable town data in those files, or at 
> least Navit doesn't find any when I try to search a town.  
> The only one it finds is some place called "Matei" when I enter an M.
> 
> Sorry if this is somewhere on the Navit site, I ddin't see it.
> 

Don't worry, documentation needs a big cleanup and expand :)

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[Android] koolu first beta release

[Giorgio Marci]

Koolu has released the first Android OS beta release.

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[Android] koolu first beta release

[Giorgio Marci]

Koolu has released the first Android OS beta release.

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Re: Performance Issues using Neo wifi and WPA2

[Helge Hafting]

john dowd wrote:
> I have a Neo freerunner running the 2008.9 load. I have it configured
> to connect using Wifi to my access point using WPA2 encryption. I do
> NOT have a SIMM card in my phone.
> 
> I have managed to make a connection to the PBX sitting on the other
> side of the Access Point. However, the audio that I'm getting is so
> badly broken that it's incomprehensible. I have seen the CPU
> utilization going to 78% using top (not a good way to measure I know).
> 
> What I'm wondering is, does the Neo have the horsepower to be able to
> do this? Is this just an optimization problem that can be addressed or
> am I pushing the phone beyond it's ability.

First, renice the process/processes involved to -15 or so.

The same thing applies to music playing software: pythm+mplayer
hickups whenever I touch the screen, unless I arrange to
renice mplayer. (A setting in /etc/pythm.conf) Renice to -15,
and the sound is fine all the time. Most other stuff runs at 0,
with some processes at -5 or -10. -15 is therefore above everything else.

If your process needs 78% or so then it is very likely necessary to 
renice. mplayer used 40%-50% of the cpu for playing .ogg files, and 
definitely needed renicing.


If this doesn't help, check that the wireless network isn't
overloaded. You get the same problems if you don't get
enough bandwith for your call. And be careful with using the net for
anything else at the same time.

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Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...

[john dowd]

I found the problem. The actual directory being searched by default is
the /usr/share/pixmap. Linphone is installing a directory containing
its various "png" files there but not putting the extended path into
the desktop.linphone file.

Cheers!!

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:03 AM, john dowd  wrote:
> Already checked but no joy.
>
> Al, I was fooling around with the GUI and found the "About" menu item
> that had the linphone website on it. Rather than bother you and the
> community (since I'm actually being paid to do this!!) I'll work
> through the website and figure out my problems. Thanks for the help.
>
> Cheers!!
>
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Al Johnson
>  wrote:
>> Probably the wrong path to the icon in the .desktop file which from memory
>> will be something like /usr/share/applications/linphone.desktop
>>
>> On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote:
>>> 2.1.1 it appears. And since I have never used gnome (I'm a KDE guy), I
>>> had not thought of checking the gnome resource directory. I'll modify
>>> it and see if that gets it working.
>>>
>>> Since you seem to be in an informative mood I have one more question
>>> (for now.. lol). The array of Icon's displayed by the GUI (I guess I'm
>>> using illume/enlightenment GUI) only shows a blank box for the
>>> linphone icon. I can see that it installed various "png" files to use.
>>> Any ideas what I should look at as to why its not displaying the
>>> proper icon file?
>>>
>>> Thanks for all your help Al.
>>>
>>> Cheers!!
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Al Johnson
>>>
>>>  wrote:
>>> > Which version are you running? It used to be ~/.linphonerc for CLI and
>>> > ~/.gnome2/linphone for GUI in 1.6 and 1.7, and probably 2.x too.
>>> >
>>> > On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote:
>>> >> But where does it go? Right now, the linphone application is using the
>>> >> username for the "user account" of the registration. In the
>>> >> configuration files of the cli version its set correctly.
>>> >>
>>> >> I tried to run "strace" on the GUI version to watch and see when it
>>> >> tried to open a configuration file but no joy. Didn't seem to even
>>> >> try.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers!!
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Al Johnson
>>> >>
>>> >>  wrote:
>>> >> > The structure of the config files for the linphone CLI and GUI are the
>>> >> > same, so you should be able to take the working one for the CLI and
>>> >> > copy it over the GUI one. At the very least you should be able to copy
>>> >> > the registration details from one and paste it into the other.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote:
>>> >> >> Thanks for the response guys, I appreciate the help.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I was able to get the linphone application installed manually
>>> >> >> (package by package) onto the Neo. It even works to a point. I've
>>> >> >> only managed to get the command line version to work. So (this is
>>> >> >> funny), in order to place a SIP phone call from my Neo, I have to ssh
>>> >> >> into it from my laptop and then using the command line "linphonec"
>>> >> >> application, I can then actually register with the PBX and place a
>>> >> >> call. As a demo, this is really going to suck.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I can't seem to configure the GUI version to use the appropriate
>>> >> >> settings to register with the PBX. I'll have a look at the source
>>> >> >> code (if I can find it) and if it's a dead end, I'll pull apart the
>>> >> >> twinkle debian package and try to install it. Any further advice
>>> >> >> would be appreciated.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Cheers!!
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>  wrote:
>>> >> >> > "Robin Paulson"  writes:
>>> >> >> >> extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to
>>> >> >> >> (manually) install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system,
>>> >> >> >> and get access to the debian archives directly?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra
>>> >> >> > 200M of space but SD cards are cheap.
>>> >> >> >
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Re: Performance Issues using Neo wifi and WPA2

[john dowd]

I'll have to look through the community mails then. I have seen people
referring to optimization problems. Perhaps I'm running into some
questionable s/w. For now, my requirements were to only show a mobile
phone registering with the s/w PBX. Voice was not part of the initial
requirements. However, for demonstration purposes I would really like
to have it working.

Thanks for you confirmation Al, it gives me a start if I have to work
on this problem.

Cheers!!

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Al Johnson
 wrote:
> On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote:
>> I have a Neo freerunner running the 2008.9 load. I have it configured
>> to connect using Wifi to my access point using WPA2 encryption. I do
>> NOT have a SIMM card in my phone.
>>
>> I have managed to make a connection to the PBX sitting on the other
>> side of the Access Point. However, the audio that I'm getting is so
>> badly broken that it's incomprehensible. I have seen the CPU
>> utilization going to 78% using top (not a good way to measure I know).
>>
>> What I'm wondering is, does the Neo have the horsepower to be able to
>> do this? Is this just an optimization problem that can be addressed or
>> am I pushing the phone beyond it's ability.
>>
>> Cheers!!
>
> I have made SIP calls using the linphone CLI over wifi with WPA-TKIP and the
> audio quality was fine. I don't recall which codec it was using, but the
> Freerunner is certainly capable of making high quality SIP calls over
> encrypted wifi.
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Re: Navit add destination

[Nathan Kinkade]

2008/12/19 KaZeR :

>> On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:13:07 +
>> Samuel Pereira  (SP) wrote:
>>
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >Can you add any destination on navit?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >Samuel
>>
>>
>> With the new version: click anywhere you want to go to on the
>> map, this will bring up menu, choose Actions and then you
>> will see the coordinates of the selected point. Click on it
>> and choose from: Set as destination, Set as position, Add as
>> bookmark, POIs (you can also see the name of the street or of
>> the selected element). You want to choose Set as destination.
>>
>
>
> If you have searchable OSM maps, or M&G maps, you can also :
> - touch scren
> - touch action
> - touch town
> Now you are able to search for a town.
> You should have the country flag in the upper left corner. If you have a
> cross (meaning your country isn't auto-detected) or if you have the wrong
> country, touch the flag and you'll be able to search for a country.
>
> Once you have a town, touching it will bring a submenu (destination, view on
> map, search street).
> If you touch the green tick on the upper right corner, it will bring you
> directly to the street search.
>
> Hope this helps!

Is navigation only available with the prebuilt OSM binary map data for
Navit?  I have one of the prebuilt planet.bin files and I can
successfully (well, somewhat) search for towns, etc.  However, I also
downloaded 2 other smaller binary maps files from
http://maps.navit-project.org/download/ and there seems to be no
searchable town data in those files, or at least Navit doesn't find
any when I try to search a town.  The only one it finds is some place
called "Matei" when I enter an M.

Sorry if this is somewhere on the Navit site, I ddin't see it.

Thanks,

Nathan

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want your FR to start faster console based apps? ;-)

[Yaroslav Halchenko]

ok -- I've become annoyed by the start time of some apps which I do run
in terminal (e.g. screen). 

I've tried to run them on another ARM based beast -- my router -- and it
starts immediately...

ok -- a bit of stracing to figure out that some considerable time is
spent processing ... /etc/termcap

opkg remove termcap

and now it takes a second instead of 10 to start screen ;-) it might be
that the base image doesn't have it installed but I've been running FDOM +
multitude of upgrades, so may be installation of termcap some how went under
the hood?

So decided to share ;-)

Do we ever need /etc/termcap? may be so for some elderly software which
doesn't make use of curses... actually description of termcap-compat
package in Debian (Debian of FR doesn't install it obviousely)

 The termcap-compat package provides the libtermcap.so.2 and /etc/termcap
 files which are required to run non-Debian, binary-only termcap-based
 programs. Since libc6-based programs are hopefully "modern" enough to be
 linked with ncurses (or slang), this package only provides a libc5-based
 libtermcap library.


So I doubt that we would need it, and there are no other packages which depend
on it -- so it should be safe to remove it

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Re: Performance Issues using Neo wifi and WPA2

[Al Johnson]

On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote:
> I have a Neo freerunner running the 2008.9 load. I have it configured
> to connect using Wifi to my access point using WPA2 encryption. I do
> NOT have a SIMM card in my phone.
>
> I have managed to make a connection to the PBX sitting on the other
> side of the Access Point. However, the audio that I'm getting is so
> badly broken that it's incomprehensible. I have seen the CPU
> utilization going to 78% using top (not a good way to measure I know).
>
> What I'm wondering is, does the Neo have the horsepower to be able to
> do this? Is this just an optimization problem that can be addressed or
> am I pushing the phone beyond it's ability.
>
> Cheers!!

I have made SIP calls using the linphone CLI over wifi with WPA-TKIP and the 
audio quality was fine. I don't recall which codec it was using, but the 
Freerunner is certainly capable of making high quality SIP calls over 
encrypted wifi.

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Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

[Stroller]

On 19 Dec 2008, at 01:10, W.Kenworthy wrote:
> ...
> Actually, please add a camera.  Many techos (that is those who work in
> technical areas) use the mobile phone camera in their work.  I.e.,
> photos of situations, faults etc for reference/passing on to support
> etc.  Only one device to carry, and its always with you.

I have found only one excellent application for a camera phone. When  
installing Windows, one would be useful for photographing the license  
sticker, which is often inaccessible & ill-lit in the back of the  
server cabinet. I can then go back to my desk, enter the key using  
remote desktop or the network KVM, activate & validate the  
installation. This is much more convenient than sticking my head in &  
out of a confined space & entering the key 5 digits at a time standing  
up at the sever rack.

Unfortunately, my last phone's camera is inadequate for this, too. It  
has some kind of flash (or perhaps just a white LED for illumination?)  
but it is too poor to actually take photos in such dim light.

However, a camera has been confirmed for GTA03 and - since cameras are  
so common on mobile devices - I don't see Openmoko removing this  
feature without mentioning it. So a thread asking for its addition or  
removal is really a bit redundant at this stage.

Stroller.
  

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Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...

[john dowd]

Already checked but no joy.

Al, I was fooling around with the GUI and found the "About" menu item
that had the linphone website on it. Rather than bother you and the
community (since I'm actually being paid to do this!!) I'll work
through the website and figure out my problems. Thanks for the help.

Cheers!!

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Al Johnson
 wrote:
> Probably the wrong path to the icon in the .desktop file which from memory
> will be something like /usr/share/applications/linphone.desktop
>
> On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote:
>> 2.1.1 it appears. And since I have never used gnome (I'm a KDE guy), I
>> had not thought of checking the gnome resource directory. I'll modify
>> it and see if that gets it working.
>>
>> Since you seem to be in an informative mood I have one more question
>> (for now.. lol). The array of Icon's displayed by the GUI (I guess I'm
>> using illume/enlightenment GUI) only shows a blank box for the
>> linphone icon. I can see that it installed various "png" files to use.
>> Any ideas what I should look at as to why its not displaying the
>> proper icon file?
>>
>> Thanks for all your help Al.
>>
>> Cheers!!
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Al Johnson
>>
>>  wrote:
>> > Which version are you running? It used to be ~/.linphonerc for CLI and
>> > ~/.gnome2/linphone for GUI in 1.6 and 1.7, and probably 2.x too.
>> >
>> > On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote:
>> >> But where does it go? Right now, the linphone application is using the
>> >> username for the "user account" of the registration. In the
>> >> configuration files of the cli version its set correctly.
>> >>
>> >> I tried to run "strace" on the GUI version to watch and see when it
>> >> tried to open a configuration file but no joy. Didn't seem to even
>> >> try.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers!!
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Al Johnson
>> >>
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> > The structure of the config files for the linphone CLI and GUI are the
>> >> > same, so you should be able to take the working one for the CLI and
>> >> > copy it over the GUI one. At the very least you should be able to copy
>> >> > the registration details from one and paste it into the other.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote:
>> >> >> Thanks for the response guys, I appreciate the help.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I was able to get the linphone application installed manually
>> >> >> (package by package) onto the Neo. It even works to a point. I've
>> >> >> only managed to get the command line version to work. So (this is
>> >> >> funny), in order to place a SIP phone call from my Neo, I have to ssh
>> >> >> into it from my laptop and then using the command line "linphonec"
>> >> >> application, I can then actually register with the PBX and place a
>> >> >> call. As a demo, this is really going to suck.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I can't seem to configure the GUI version to use the appropriate
>> >> >> settings to register with the PBX. I'll have a look at the source
>> >> >> code (if I can find it) and if it's a dead end, I'll pull apart the
>> >> >> twinkle debian package and try to install it. Any further advice
>> >> >> would be appreciated.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheers!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> > "Robin Paulson"  writes:
>> >> >> >> extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to
>> >> >> >> (manually) install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system,
>> >> >> >> and get access to the debian archives directly?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra
>> >> >> > 200M of space but SD cards are cheap.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
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Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...

[Al Johnson]

Probably the wrong path to the icon in the .desktop file which from memory 
will be something like /usr/share/applications/linphone.desktop

On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote:
> 2.1.1 it appears. And since I have never used gnome (I'm a KDE guy), I
> had not thought of checking the gnome resource directory. I'll modify
> it and see if that gets it working.
>
> Since you seem to be in an informative mood I have one more question
> (for now.. lol). The array of Icon's displayed by the GUI (I guess I'm
> using illume/enlightenment GUI) only shows a blank box for the
> linphone icon. I can see that it installed various "png" files to use.
> Any ideas what I should look at as to why its not displaying the
> proper icon file?
>
> Thanks for all your help Al.
>
> Cheers!!
>
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Al Johnson
>
>  wrote:
> > Which version are you running? It used to be ~/.linphonerc for CLI and
> > ~/.gnome2/linphone for GUI in 1.6 and 1.7, and probably 2.x too.
> >
> > On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote:
> >> But where does it go? Right now, the linphone application is using the
> >> username for the "user account" of the registration. In the
> >> configuration files of the cli version its set correctly.
> >>
> >> I tried to run "strace" on the GUI version to watch and see when it
> >> tried to open a configuration file but no joy. Didn't seem to even
> >> try.
> >>
> >> Cheers!!
> >>
> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Al Johnson
> >>
> >>  wrote:
> >> > The structure of the config files for the linphone CLI and GUI are the
> >> > same, so you should be able to take the working one for the CLI and
> >> > copy it over the GUI one. At the very least you should be able to copy
> >> > the registration details from one and paste it into the other.
> >> >
> >> > On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote:
> >> >> Thanks for the response guys, I appreciate the help.
> >> >>
> >> >> I was able to get the linphone application installed manually
> >> >> (package by package) onto the Neo. It even works to a point. I've
> >> >> only managed to get the command line version to work. So (this is
> >> >> funny), in order to place a SIP phone call from my Neo, I have to ssh
> >> >> into it from my laptop and then using the command line "linphonec"
> >> >> application, I can then actually register with the PBX and place a
> >> >> call. As a demo, this is really going to suck.
> >> >>
> >> >> I can't seem to configure the GUI version to use the appropriate
> >> >> settings to register with the PBX. I'll have a look at the source
> >> >> code (if I can find it) and if it's a dead end, I'll pull apart the
> >> >> twinkle debian package and try to install it. Any further advice
> >> >> would be appreciated.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers!!
> >> >>
> >> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
> >> >>
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >> > "Robin Paulson"  writes:
> >> >> >> extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to
> >> >> >> (manually) install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system,
> >> >> >> and get access to the debian archives directly?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra
> >> >> > 200M of space but SD cards are cheap.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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> >> >> > community@lists.openmoko.org
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> >> >
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Performance Issues using Neo wifi and WPA2

[john dowd]

I have a Neo freerunner running the 2008.9 load. I have it configured
to connect using Wifi to my access point using WPA2 encryption. I do
NOT have a SIMM card in my phone.

I have managed to make a connection to the PBX sitting on the other
side of the Access Point. However, the audio that I'm getting is so
badly broken that it's incomprehensible. I have seen the CPU
utilization going to 78% using top (not a good way to measure I know).

What I'm wondering is, does the Neo have the horsepower to be able to
do this? Is this just an optimization problem that can be addressed or
am I pushing the phone beyond it's ability.

Cheers!!

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Re: read-only?!?

[Alex Fitzpatrick]

Andy Green wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> | Andy Green wrote:
> |> Aah didn't I read that this new rootfs does not remount / -orw... as a
> |> workaround you aren't meant to use ro on the kernel commandline...
> |> that'll be it then.
> |>
> |> - -Andy
> |>
> | I'm stuck with this also...
> |
> | Has a bug been logged?
> | Will a new kernel be released or are we stuck tweaking u-boot parms?
>
> This is not a kernel issue, it's something to fix in the rootfs,
> otherwise you have to solve it by changing U-Boot env.
>   
Ok... I'll put my manager hat back on...

Has a bug been logged?
Will a new FILESYSTEM be released or are we stuck tweaking u-boot parms?

:-)

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Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...

[john dowd]

2.1.1 it appears. And since I have never used gnome (I'm a KDE guy), I
had not thought of checking the gnome resource directory. I'll modify
it and see if that gets it working.

Since you seem to be in an informative mood I have one more question
(for now.. lol). The array of Icon's displayed by the GUI (I guess I'm
using illume/enlightenment GUI) only shows a blank box for the
linphone icon. I can see that it installed various "png" files to use.
Any ideas what I should look at as to why its not displaying the
proper icon file?

Thanks for all your help Al.

Cheers!!

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Al Johnson
 wrote:
> Which version are you running? It used to be ~/.linphonerc for CLI and
> ~/.gnome2/linphone for GUI in 1.6 and 1.7, and probably 2.x too.
>
> On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote:
>> But where does it go? Right now, the linphone application is using the
>> username for the "user account" of the registration. In the
>> configuration files of the cli version its set correctly.
>>
>> I tried to run "strace" on the GUI version to watch and see when it
>> tried to open a configuration file but no joy. Didn't seem to even
>> try.
>>
>> Cheers!!
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Al Johnson
>>
>>  wrote:
>> > The structure of the config files for the linphone CLI and GUI are the
>> > same, so you should be able to take the working one for the CLI and copy
>> > it over the GUI one. At the very least you should be able to copy the
>> > registration details from one and paste it into the other.
>> >
>> > On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote:
>> >> Thanks for the response guys, I appreciate the help.
>> >>
>> >> I was able to get the linphone application installed manually (package
>> >> by package) onto the Neo. It even works to a point. I've only managed
>> >> to get the command line version to work. So (this is funny), in order
>> >> to place a SIP phone call from my Neo, I have to ssh into it from my
>> >> laptop and then using the command line "linphonec" application, I can
>> >> then actually register with the PBX and place a call. As a demo, this
>> >> is really going to suck.
>> >>
>> >> I can't seem to configure the GUI version to use the appropriate
>> >> settings to register with the PBX. I'll have a look at the source code
>> >> (if I can find it) and if it's a dead end, I'll pull apart the twinkle
>> >> debian package and try to install it. Any further advice would be
>> >> appreciated.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers!!
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
>> >>
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> > "Robin Paulson"  writes:
>> >> >> extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to (manually)
>> >> >> install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system, and get access
>> >> >> to the debian archives directly?
>> >> >
>> >> > Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra 200M
>> >> > of space but SD cards are cheap.
>> >> >
>> >> >
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Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...

[Al Johnson]

Which version are you running? It used to be ~/.linphonerc for CLI and 
~/.gnome2/linphone for GUI in 1.6 and 1.7, and probably 2.x too.

On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote:
> But where does it go? Right now, the linphone application is using the
> username for the "user account" of the registration. In the
> configuration files of the cli version its set correctly.
>
> I tried to run "strace" on the GUI version to watch and see when it
> tried to open a configuration file but no joy. Didn't seem to even
> try.
>
> Cheers!!
>
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Al Johnson
>
>  wrote:
> > The structure of the config files for the linphone CLI and GUI are the
> > same, so you should be able to take the working one for the CLI and copy
> > it over the GUI one. At the very least you should be able to copy the
> > registration details from one and paste it into the other.
> >
> > On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote:
> >> Thanks for the response guys, I appreciate the help.
> >>
> >> I was able to get the linphone application installed manually (package
> >> by package) onto the Neo. It even works to a point. I've only managed
> >> to get the command line version to work. So (this is funny), in order
> >> to place a SIP phone call from my Neo, I have to ssh into it from my
> >> laptop and then using the command line "linphonec" application, I can
> >> then actually register with the PBX and place a call. As a demo, this
> >> is really going to suck.
> >>
> >> I can't seem to configure the GUI version to use the appropriate
> >> settings to register with the PBX. I'll have a look at the source code
> >> (if I can find it) and if it's a dead end, I'll pull apart the twinkle
> >> debian package and try to install it. Any further advice would be
> >> appreciated.
> >>
> >> Cheers!!
> >>
> >> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
> >>
> >>  wrote:
> >> > "Robin Paulson"  writes:
> >> >> extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to (manually)
> >> >> install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system, and get access
> >> >> to the debian archives directly?
> >> >
> >> > Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra 200M
> >> > of space but SD cards are cheap.
> >> >
> >> >
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Re: 2008.12 illume theme

[John Lee]

try disable qtopia under /etc/X11/Xsession.d first, restart X,
finish the config, move qtopia back...


- John

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 03:45:09PM +0200, Timo Jyrinki wrote:
> > ... yes, you maybe need some trys to get there without a segfault :) 
> 
> I get the segfault directly at startup no matter how many times I try.
> Is there any way to do the engine change somehow when the asu theme is
> running or via ssh?
> 
> -Timo
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Re: read-only?!?

[Andy Green]

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Andy Green wrote:
|> Aah didn't I read that this new rootfs does not remount / -orw... as a
|> workaround you aren't meant to use ro on the kernel commandline...
|> that'll be it then.
|>
|> - -Andy
|>
| I'm stuck with this also...
|
| Has a bug been logged?
| Will a new kernel be released or are we stuck tweaking u-boot parms?

This is not a kernel issue, it's something to fix in the rootfs,
otherwise you have to solve it by changing U-Boot env.

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Re: OpenMooCow 0.3

[Thomas White]

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:24:23 +0100
"KaZeR"  wrote:

> > my SHR doesn't play the sound... am i missing something?
> > Unable to open audio: No available audio device 

> I had the exact same issue last week (haven't tried again since, and
> i'm currently flashing 2008.12)

This sounds odd.  OpenMooCow uses SDL for all the audio work, and the
"No available audio device" part of that messages comes from SDL itself.
So this could indicate a problem with SDL or something lower-level.

I've seen audio break before due to a mismatch of kernel modules.  Does
audio work in any other programs for you?

Tom

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Re: [Debian] Wlan and suspend/resume

[Timo Juhani Lindfors]

Fox Mulder  writes:
> My problem now is, that i can't find any suitable file for wlan. I only

Which kernel? andy-tracking de473 has one for wlan too.

Btw, I have a similar script too. It tells me how many percentage
units of capacity per hour were lost during suspend when the phone resumes.



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Re: read-only?!?

[Alex Fitzpatrick]

Andy Green wrote:
> Aah didn't I read that this new rootfs does not remount / -orw... as a
> workaround you aren't meant to use ro on the kernel commandline...
> that'll be it then.
>
> - -Andy
>   
I'm stuck with this also...

Has a bug been logged?
Will a new kernel be released or are we stuck tweaking u-boot parms?

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Re: 2008.12 illume theme

[William Kenworthy]

Does settings work after changing engines? - known bug with testing.

BillK

On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 12:14 +0100, Benedikt Schindler wrote:
> you have to change the "Engine" in the enlightenment config from 
> SOFTWARE_16 to SOFTWARE. Then the Illume theme should work.
> 
> ... yes, you maybe need some trys to get there without a segfault :) 
> 
> Ole Kliemann schrieb:
> 
> > If I change /etc/enlightenment/default_profile to use the illume theme
> > instead of ASU, enlightenment segfaults only seconds after displaying
> > the pin dialog.
> >
> > But I don't know if this way changing profiles is even supposed to work.
> >
> > Ole
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Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...

[john dowd]

But where does it go? Right now, the linphone application is using the
username for the "user account" of the registration. In the
configuration files of the cli version its set correctly.

I tried to run "strace" on the GUI version to watch and see when it
tried to open a configuration file but no joy. Didn't seem to even
try.

Cheers!!

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Al Johnson
 wrote:
> The structure of the config files for the linphone CLI and GUI are the same,
> so you should be able to take the working one for the CLI and copy it over
> the GUI one. At the very least you should be able to copy the registration
> details from one and paste it into the other.
>
> On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote:
>> Thanks for the response guys, I appreciate the help.
>>
>> I was able to get the linphone application installed manually (package
>> by package) onto the Neo. It even works to a point. I've only managed
>> to get the command line version to work. So (this is funny), in order
>> to place a SIP phone call from my Neo, I have to ssh into it from my
>> laptop and then using the command line "linphonec" application, I can
>> then actually register with the PBX and place a call. As a demo, this
>> is really going to suck.
>>
>> I can't seem to configure the GUI version to use the appropriate
>> settings to register with the PBX. I'll have a look at the source code
>> (if I can find it) and if it's a dead end, I'll pull apart the twinkle
>> debian package and try to install it. Any further advice would be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Cheers!!
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
>>
>>  wrote:
>> > "Robin Paulson"  writes:
>> >> extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to (manually)
>> >> install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system, and get access to
>> >> the debian archives directly?
>> >
>> > Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra 200M
>> > of space but SD cards are cheap.
>> >
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Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...

[Al Johnson]

The structure of the config files for the linphone CLI and GUI are the same, 
so you should be able to take the working one for the CLI and copy it over 
the GUI one. At the very least you should be able to copy the registration 
details from one and paste it into the other.

On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote:
> Thanks for the response guys, I appreciate the help.
>
> I was able to get the linphone application installed manually (package
> by package) onto the Neo. It even works to a point. I've only managed
> to get the command line version to work. So (this is funny), in order
> to place a SIP phone call from my Neo, I have to ssh into it from my
> laptop and then using the command line "linphonec" application, I can
> then actually register with the PBX and place a call. As a demo, this
> is really going to suck.
>
> I can't seem to configure the GUI version to use the appropriate
> settings to register with the PBX. I'll have a look at the source code
> (if I can find it) and if it's a dead end, I'll pull apart the twinkle
> debian package and try to install it. Any further advice would be
> appreciated.
>
> Cheers!!
>
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
>
>  wrote:
> > "Robin Paulson"  writes:
> >> extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to (manually)
> >> install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system, and get access to
> >> the debian archives directly?
> >
> > Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra 200M
> > of space but SD cards are cheap.
> >
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Re: 2008.12 illume theme

[Timo Jyrinki]

> ... yes, you maybe need some trys to get there without a segfault :) 

I get the segfault directly at startup no matter how many times I try.
Is there any way to do the engine change somehow when the asu theme is
running or via ssh?

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RE: New 2008.12 Release

[KaZeR]

 

> -Message d'origine-
> De : community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org 
> [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de Andy Green
> Envoyé : vendredi 19 décembre 2008 12:09
> À : List for Openmoko community discussion
> Objet : Re: New 2008.12 Release
> 
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> 
> Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> 
> | Cons :
> | - Didn't boot after flash. I made several tries, it was stuck at
> debugfs dir
> | creation failed. I had to aux+power, choose boot and it 
> worked. Now it 
> | works. (i'm using QI)
> 
> My guess is this might be the "ro" business, Qi has ro in the 
> kernel commandline but this update apparently does not remount rw.
But, in that case, it would never boot, no? After booting one time using
aux+power, it works now


> 
> | - Doesn't see my sdcard
> 
> Hmm is the /dev/mmcblk0p1 etc there through?
> 

I found why: /etc/fstab contains only an entry for partition1, and it's fat
here.


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Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...

[john dowd]

Thanks for the response guys, I appreciate the help.

I was able to get the linphone application installed manually (package
by package) onto the Neo. It even works to a point. I've only managed
to get the command line version to work. So (this is funny), in order
to place a SIP phone call from my Neo, I have to ssh into it from my
laptop and then using the command line "linphonec" application, I can
then actually register with the PBX and place a call. As a demo, this
is really going to suck.

I can't seem to configure the GUI version to use the appropriate
settings to register with the PBX. I'll have a look at the source code
(if I can find it) and if it's a dead end, I'll pull apart the twinkle
debian package and try to install it. Any further advice would be
appreciated.

Cheers!!

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors
 wrote:
> "Robin Paulson"  writes:
>> extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to (manually)
>> install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system, and get access to
>> the debian archives directly?
>
> Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra 200M
> of space but SD cards are cheap.
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Re: New 2008.12 Release

[Timo Jyrinki]

2008/12/19 Robin Paulson :
> what specifically relating to the freerunner hardware has changed; is
> there any documentation anywhere?
>
> is http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs up to date?

No it's not up-to-date. Note that of course it's up to date regarding
2008.12 release which still has 2.6.24 kernel, but the 2.6.28 has a
lot/most paths in different form.

I now put a note about that there.

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RE: New 2008.12 Release

[Vasco Névoa]

Citando KaZeR :
>> Strange, I have an OM2008.9 fully updated with "testing" and
>> my bootup time is 30 seconds more than that... anyone can
>> explain this?
> I have double checked: 39s
> Note that i'm talking of time to destktop, at that point for example gsm
> hasn't registered to network.
With OM2008.9/testing and ASU theme + gsm0710muxd service, it'  
definitely around 60 seconds.

> It's the faster i have seen on FR currently.
Yep. :)

> Maybe it's partly because (thanks to ;) ) QI?
That should only make a difference in the first part of boot (until  
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RE: [SHR] gpsdrive

[KaZeR]

 

> -Message d'origine-
> Hallo,
> I'm trying to install gpsdrive on SHR Tsting. 
> First I downloaded gpsdrive from here:
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/gpsdrive*
> 
> But installing fails with this message: 
> 
> r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install 
> gpsdrive_2.10pre4-r2_armv4t.opk Installing gpsdrive 
> (2.10pre4-r2) to root...
> Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd) 
> Collected errors:
>  * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gpsdrive:
>  *  libwww-perl *  gtk+ (>= 2.12.11) *  libpcre0 (>= 7.6) *
> 
> Is there any chance to match the requirements without 
> convertig the phone into a brick? 
> I'm realy happy with SHR at the moment, but having gpsdrive 
> would make it complet. 
> 
Hi Dennis.

First, don't worry, you won't brick your phone with packages.
Then, i might slip off topic one more time, but have you tried navit? (i'm
talking of at least 0.1.0, or, better, svn)
It has less dependencies, and afaik there are quite a few users using it on
FR.
What specific feature of gpsdrive are you interested in? 

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Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

[The Rasterman]

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 09:44:22 + "Neil Jerram" 
babbled:

> 2008/12/19 Andreas Pokorny :
> >
> > Lets add another information layer to open street map, containing
> > discovered or already-tried-but-failed wpa-keys. Then each gta03
> > synchronize with the current state of your home town and start trying
> > some new keys in the neighbourhood as we walk around.
> 
> -1
> 
> (I don't think this list should appear to condone illegal and/or
> immoral activity!)

agreed. it's irresponsible to even suggest the idea. it shows also no respect
for privacy and those that own access points they wish to keep private.

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Re: [debian] enlightenment has no png loader?

[Marcel]

Am Thursday 18 December 2008 23:44:57 schrieb Neil Jerram:
> I noticed that there are now e17 packages in debian unstable, and that
> these include -dbg packages.  Since my current e17 (from the
> enlightenment-all-in-one deb that someone put together) always SEGV's
> on startup, and since Raster has asked for backtrace with symbols when
> that happens, I thought I'd uninstall enlightenment-all-in-one and try
> the new Debian packages instead.
>
> But now, enlightenment_start bails with:
>
> ...
> ESTART: 1.49197 [0.75791] - test file format support
>  Enlightenment Error 
> Enlightenment found Evas can't load PNG files. Check Evas has PNG
> loader support.
>
> (full output attached).
>
> From googling, it looks like I'm missing a package with name like
> evas-loader-png, which doesn't appear to be available in Debian yet,
> and I guess I just need to wait a bit longer for the packages to get
> to that.
>
> Is that all correct?  Or is there another problem / solution here?
>
> Thanks,
>   Neil

I have installed e17 completely from experimental, I suggest installing it 
completely from there - theres no evas-loader-* or evas-saver-* package at 
all on my system. E17 itself runs (great performance although in software 
mode, holy raster!), but the taskbar (or whatever it's called in e) doesn't 
show open windows... There were some other things I noticed, but don't 
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RE: New 2008.12 Release

[KaZeR]

 

> -Message d'origine-
> Strange, I have an OM2008.9 fully updated with "testing" and 
> my bootup time is 30 seconds more than that... anyone can 
> explain this?
I have double checked: 39s 
Note that i'm talking of time to destktop, at that point for example gsm
hasn't registered to network.
It's the faster i have seen on FR currently.
Maybe it's partly because (thanks to ;) ) QI?

Yesterday's FSO M4 was awfully slow to boot, something like 150s iirc..

> 
> > - Phone goes to suspend even if you have usb connected. So, 
> you loose 
> > the network connection.
> But that has always been like that, right?

Possible, i haven't used OM that much, for various reasons.
In other distros this behavior is different, and i personnaly find it more
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[Debian] Wlan and suspend/resume

[Fox Mulder]

I build a little script which logs important status information to a
text file immediatly before i suspend and after i resume. I wrote it to
have some information about how much capacity of the battery is drained
while in suspend. Therefore i log the current capacity of the battery
(in %) and which hardware modules are switched on/off (gsm, gps,
bluetooth, wlan).

I read the state of all modules from sysfs.
BAT_STATUS="/sys/devices/platform/bq27000-battery.0/power_supply/bat/capacity"
GSM_STATUS="/sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on"
GPS_STATUS="/sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron"
BT_STATUS="/sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-bt.0/power_on"

The output of my script looks like this:
2008-12-18_14:13:20 suspend: bat=94 gsm=1 wlan=? gps=0 bt=0
2008-12-18_19:15:45 resume: bat=88 gsm=1 wlan=? gps=0 bt=0
2008-12-19_01:33:00 suspend: bat=72 gsm=0 wlan=? gps=0 bt=0
2008-12-19_11:11:57 resume: bat=24 gsm=0 wlan=? gps=0 bt=0

My problem now is, that i can't find any suitable file for wlan. I only
want to know if wlan is fully activated or deactivated/suspended in
respect to power consumption.
If there is more than one power state for the wlan module i want to log
the exact state instead of 0/1, but where to get it?

And another problem i have is that after the last ~10 hour
suspend/resume cycle the process "events/0" consumes ~25% cpu power
constantly. I don't know what to do against this problem and at last i
had to reboot to get it back to normal.

Ciao,
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RE: New 2008.12 Release

[Giorgio Marci]

 This new distribution is pretty usable but i have a problem. I want to
use the qtopia light and power for managing the power.

I've installed the package, started the application from shell but it
doesn't work! it can't manage the power, if i change some value light
brithness or suspend time..all remains the same! how can i fix?

have i to change some configuration file to tell the OM to use the qtopia
power management?

thanks a lot

  - Original Message -
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  To: community@lists.openmoko.org
  Subject: RE: New 2008.12 Release
  Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:09:42 +


  Citando KaZeR :
  > Pro :
  > - OMG fast boot time (press power for 8 seconds (boring, why so
  long?),
  > start stopwatch at first line of text. Time to desktop : 38s!
  Strange, I have an OM2008.9 fully updated with "testing" and my
  bootup
  time is 30 seconds more than that... anyone can explain this?

  > - Phone goes to suspend even if you have usb connected. So, you
  loose the
  > network connection.
  But that has always been like that, right?

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[SHR] gpsdrive

[Fragggy]

Hallo,
I'm trying to install gpsdrive on SHR Tsting. 
First I downloaded gpsdrive from here:
http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/gpsdrive*

But installing fails with this message: 

r...@om-gta02 ~ $ opkg install gpsdrive_2.10pre4-r2_armv4t.opk
Installing gpsdrive (2.10pre4-r2) to root...
Multiple replacers for gpsd, using first one (fso-gpsd)
Collected errors:
 * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for gpsdrive:
 *  libwww-perl *  gtk+ (>= 2.12.11) *  libpcre0 (>= 7.6) *

Is there any chance to match the requirements without convertig the phone
into a brick? 
I'm realy happy with SHR at the moment, but having gpsdrive would make it
complet. 

Regards
Dennis Munzlinger

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Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

[Fox Mulder]

Petr Vanek wrote:
>> With an FSO based system you could do this easily with help of oevents.
>> In the file /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml exists two entries
>> for actions to be taken when the battery is nearly empty. You could
>> easily edit these entries and do LED actions or play some sound files.
>> The relevant entries are these:
>>
>>while: PowerStatus()
>>filters: HasAttr(status, "critical")
>>actions: SetLed("gta02_power_orange", "blink")
>>
>>trigger: PowerStatus()
>>filters: HasAttr(status, "empty")
>>actions: Command('poweroff')
> 
> 
> Where could i learn more about actions? I can imagine i could disable
> suspend/blackout by it while PowerStatus would be "charging".

Good question.
I also don't know where to get all possible Attributes and Actions. At
the moment my modifications are based on intuition and try&error. But i
would appreciate if anyone knows an url with all the needed information
what is possible. :)

Ciao,
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[SHR] change ringtones

[Giorgio Marci]

In SHR testing i've changed the profile by adding a new one and setting
into that file the ringtone and messagetone, but it doesn't work! i've
restarted the phone ma still no sound!

Does someone could help me?

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Re: 2008.12 illume theme

[Benedikt Schindler]

you have to change the "Engine" in the enlightenment config from 
SOFTWARE_16 to SOFTWARE. Then the Illume theme should work.

... yes, you maybe need some trys to get there without a segfault :) 

Ole Kliemann schrieb:

> If I change /etc/enlightenment/default_profile to use the illume theme
> instead of ASU, enlightenment segfaults only seconds after displaying
> the pin dialog.
>
> But I don't know if this way changing profiles is even supposed to work.
>
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Re: 2008.12 illume theme

[Samuel Pereira]

Hi,

You must go to illume config, select engine and change software_16 to  
software.

Samuel



> If I change /etc/enlightenment/default_profile to use the illume theme
> instead of ASU, enlightenment segfaults only seconds after displaying
> the pin dialog.
>
> But I don't know if this way changing profiles is even supposed to work.
>
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RE: New 2008.12 Release

[Vasco Névoa]

Citando KaZeR :
> Pro :
> - OMG fast boot time (press power for 8 seconds (boring, why so long?),
> start stopwatch at first line of text. Time to desktop : 38s!
Strange, I have an OM2008.9 fully updated with "testing" and my bootup  
time is 30 seconds more than that... anyone can explain this?

> - Phone goes to suspend even if you have usb connected. So, you loose the
> network connection.
But that has always been like that, right?

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Re: New 2008.12 Release

[Andy Green]

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| Cons :
| - Didn't boot after flash. I made several tries, it was stuck at
debugfs dir
| creation failed. I had to aux+power, choose boot and it worked. Now it
| works. (i'm using QI)

My guess is this might be the "ro" business, Qi has ro in the kernel
commandline but this update apparently does not remount rw.

| - Doesn't see my sdcard

Hmm is the /dev/mmcblk0p1 etc there through?

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2008.12 illume theme

[Ole Kliemann]

If I change /etc/enlightenment/default_profile to use the illume theme
instead of ASU, enlightenment segfaults only seconds after displaying
the pin dialog.

But I don't know if this way changing profiles is even supposed to work.

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Re: New 2008.12 Release

[Vasco Névoa]

That's strange, I didn't get the announce mail...

Citando Rui Miguel Silva Seabra :

> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:25:19PM +0200, Yogiz wrote:
>>
>> > > Good news. I'll still wait for the announcement and for some
>> > > feedback before I roll it on. I've spent too much time
>> > > customizing my 2008.9 to mess with it.
>> > >
>> > I've received the official announcement around 30 minutes ago.
>> In this list or where?
>>
>> Could someone point out the biggest changes?
>
> OpenMoko announce list.
>
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2008-December/28.html
>
> Rui
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Re: New 2008.12 Release

[Robin Paulson]

2008/12/19 Antony King :
>> http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.12/
>
> I've copied those files to our UK mirror here:
>
> http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=Mirrors
>
> Openmoko haven't supplied MD5s for the images; here's what I make them:
>
> 4ade0b3d3210ec9e9bf34bc694f0dd47  gta01bv4-lowlevel.bin
> e9cc57e863b63abfd593f97b19801b34  gta01bv4-u-boot.bin
> 1f200d7123a26e16ff0415f59695dfe3  gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin

i wish om would print the version of u-boot on the downloads page -
can anyone here report what it is? is it a new version, or just a
re-build of an existing version?

cheers

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Re: read-only?!?

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Andy Green schrieb:
|> Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello there, | | i
|> don't know, what's wrong, but i had just in the beginning some |
|> failures like | | tar: cannot create directory 'device/bus':
|> Read-only file system | | this is created for every folder; input,
|> bus etc.. so it's normal that | the system couldn't start. but why
|> it is a read only file system? i | maked from my other system to
|> the memorycard a mkfs.ext3 . ext3 isn't | read only i think?
|
|> If this is on a host with uSD -> full size SD adapter, these
|> adapters have a little slider that can be used to disable writes to
|> the SD Card, they are easy to knock.
|
|> Also if your filesystem is corrupted it can decide to fail
|> gracefully by becoming read-only.
|
|> But I have managed to knock that little slider so many times I used
|> some pliers to pinch the plastic so it can no longer move.
|
|> -Andy
| it's a normal micro-sd in my moko, i didn't found a slider..
|
| with my last system, it works (om 2008.9, your/andys kernel), but with
| om 2008.12 it didn't.. i couldn't belive it that 2008.12 make the fs

Aah didn't I read that this new rootfs does not remount / -orw... as a
workaround you aren't meant to use ro on the kernel commandline...
that'll be it then.

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Re: [Android] Can't boot from current git

[Radek Polak]

> Try editing platform/vendor/neo/BoardConfig.mk and changing the line
> BUILD_WITHOUT_PV := true
> to
> BUILD_WITHOUT_PV := false
>
> That fixed it for me.
>
> Jim
>   
Yes, this helped me too. Thanks!

Radek

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Re: New 2008.12 Release

[Antony King]

On Friday 19 December 2008 07:56:20 abatrour wrote:
> Just noticed on the server. I'm going to try it out right now.
>
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.12/

I've copied those files to our UK mirror here:

http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=Mirrors

Openmoko haven't supplied MD5s for the images; here's what I make them:

4ade0b3d3210ec9e9bf34bc694f0dd47  gta01bv4-lowlevel.bin
e9cc57e863b63abfd593f97b19801b34  gta01bv4-u-boot.bin
1f200d7123a26e16ff0415f59695dfe3  gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin
7f2f26e53fc787450f84286d9f0726cf  gta02v5-lowlevel.bin
a1ba1806ced7b6b7791802d654514ce8  Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2
48dc258d9e342fc8b2453457b7179907  Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz
6b1e33f3e83034613d33a1a3583bdac4  Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin

If anyone from OM or elsewhere sees any different to those, please let us 
know !

Antony.

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Re: Freerunner and video telephony?

[Benjamin Schmidt]

joa...@verona.se wrote:
> The next quarter I have use for a simple mobile video application.
> Ideally it should be a sip client running on the Freerunner with a
> webcam. (The Freerunner will also control some servos via usb)
> 
> What image size and framerate can I expect?
> The video quality sent from the freerunner is more important than the
> video quality displayed on the freerunner screen. Voice quality is more
> important than video.
> 
> Data transfer would happen over wifi.
> 
> 

It seems so that nobody tried this before. I only heard some time ago 
that watching some MPEG movie does work nicely.

Still you have to try it out. Best would be if you use an SIP client 
like ekiga, which is already available for arm processors.

For another SIP client which is maybe cool, but has to be compiled first 
for arm.
http://www.minisip.org/

Let us know your experiences.

Best regards,
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Re: read-only?!?

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Andy Green schrieb:
> Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello there, | | i
> don't know, what's wrong, but i had just in the beginning some |
> failures like | | tar: cannot create directory 'device/bus':
> Read-only file system | | this is created for every folder; input,
> bus etc.. so it's normal that | the system couldn't start. but why
> it is a read only file system? i | maked from my other system to
> the memorycard a mkfs.ext3 . ext3 isn't | read only i think?
>
> If this is on a host with uSD -> full size SD adapter, these
> adapters have a little slider that can be used to disable writes to
> the SD Card, they are easy to knock.
>
> Also if your filesystem is corrupted it can decide to fail
> gracefully by becoming read-only.
>
> But I have managed to knock that little slider so many times I used
> some pliers to pinch the plastic so it can no longer move.
>
> -Andy
it's a normal micro-sd in my moko, i didn't found a slider..

with my last system, it works (om 2008.9, your/andys kernel), but with
om 2008.12 it didn't.. i couldn't belive it that 2008.12 make the fs
corruptet, cuase the testing-version had the same problem. could it be
a hardware-failure of the sd-card? (also strange, cause it save
everything..)
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Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

[Robin Paulson]

2008/12/19 Helge Hafting :
> Something pluggable isn't that bad - we have plugs for USB and
> headset anyway. :-) Perhaps a modular phone is too expensive, it'd still
> be nice with a slot for an extra card. No moving parts, just a slot
> similiar to a cheap card reader. And accessible without removing the
> battery, so a reboot won't be needed. There are other phones with
> such a slot, it sure isn't impossible.
>
> High-speed USB and a fast interface to the card would come in
> useful too - the phone used as a card
> reader for the pc should match the speed of any other card reader.
> Software would launch quicker too.

hmm, i was thinking of writing about how this would still add cost,
but sdio would be suitable, and it supports cameras

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Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

[Helge Hafting]

Joel Newkirk wrote:

> Unfortunately there are also those in technical areas who are prohibited
> from having a camera in the workplace.  There are other situations where
> it's prohibited (at least in my experience) like courthouses.  
> 
> It's one of those pretty clear-cut "you'll never please everyone"
> situations.  Both wishes (with/without) are valid with good reasons behind
> them, but clearly a single device can't deliver both.  (without a removable
> cam, which would then be the pro/anti removable conflict ;)

Seems a camera will be ok with most people, as long as it doesn't drive
up the price too much. I'd rather have more/faster memory and flash for 
the money, but that's just me.

A modular camera may be too expensice, but how about a "user removeable"
one? Simplify production by having a more cumbersome camera removal
procedure, such as:

* remove the case completely (camera held in place by the case)
* carefully pull camera wiring out of internal connector(s)
   Hardware hackers might want to plug their own stuff in, a camera
   leaves behind a connection with nice bandwith. And it is documented...
* make a plug for the camera hole out of some flat material,
   a template can be downloaded from the website. Or make a custom case.
* put the case together without the camera component.

De-soldering should be avoided, it is too easy to wreck it all.

Helge Hafting

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RE: New 2008.12 Release

[KaZeR]

 

> -Message d'origine-
> De : community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org 
> [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de Yogiz
> Envoyé : vendredi 19 décembre 2008 11:25
> À : community@lists.openmoko.org
> Objet : Re: New 2008.12 Release
> 
> 
> > > Good news. I'll still wait for the announcement and for some 
> > > feedback before I roll it on. I've spent too much time 
> customizing 
> > > my 2008.9 to mess with it.
> > > 
> > I've received the official announcement around 30 minutes ago.
> In this list or where?
> 
In fact i've also subscribed to annou...@lists.openmoko.org
I'm forwarding you the mail directly.

> Could someone point out the biggest changes?

Pro :
- OMG fast boot time (press power for 8 seconds (boring, why so long?),
start stopwatch at first line of text. Time to desktop : 38s!

Cons : 
- Didn't boot after flash. I made several tries, it was stuck at debugfs dir
creation failed. I had to aux+power, choose boot and it worked. Now it
works. (i'm using QI)
- Doesn't see my sdcard
- Phone goes to suspend even if you have usb connected. So, you loose the
network connection.

I'm sure i'll find more 'Pros' after more tests :)


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Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

[Helge Hafting]

Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:52:51 +0100 Helge Hafting 
> babbled:

> 
> but more to the point - travel around japan. watch people on holiday (the
> japanese) or watch them when they travel. guess what the camera of choice is
> that they pull out? not their nikon d80 or canon ixus or whatever. it's their
> phone. they are always taking tonnes of photos with their phones. it's 
> probably
> the most used type of camera (if comparing against compact cams + dslr's) by
> quote a margin. and they are happy with it.
> 
Making a good small lens is not a problem, a good small sensor is. 
Japanese tourists may be satisfied, but perhaps they just aren't that 
good photographers. Small-sensor images can be reasonable under ideal 
lighting conditions, but hopeless for most other cases. But then, 
tourists go where the sun is.

> the problem is - if you make it optional it all becomes more expensive as you
> need to have multiple production lines and multiple case designs - in the end
> its CHEAPER to ship a camera for everyone. that's the reality of the embedded
> market.

I see. Well, you can have the same case and just provide a lid for the
camera-shaped hole. If camera for all really is cheaper, consider
putting it on a plug. Users who really don't want (or aren't allowed) a
camera can then remove it themselves without de-soldering or breaking
warranty.

>> And of course, a pop-out camera leaves room that can be used for
>> something else. Such as room for several SD-cards, perhaps even that
>> secondary SIM option. More SDcards is good - one for the OS and one
>> that can be changed with the system running. (Or RAID, for the specially 
>> interested :-) Two SIMs are what business users want - one for
>> private use and one for company use.
> 
> moving parts == bad. prone to failure/break - even at production time as
> testing may say "go" but the part loosens during shipping as its intended to 
> be
> loose/move. it's something makers like to avoid if they can.
>
Something pluggable isn't that bad - we have plugs for USB and
headset anyway. :-) Perhaps a modular phone is too expensive, it'd still 
be nice with a slot for an extra card. No moving parts, just a slot 
similiar to a cheap card reader. And accessible without removing the
battery, so a reboot won't be needed. There are other phones with
such a slot, it sure isn't impossible.

High-speed USB and a fast interface to the card would come in
useful too - the phone used as a card
reader for the pc should match the speed of any other card reader. 
Software would launch quicker too.

Helge Hafting


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Re: New 2008.12 Release

[Martino]

Her the change log:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.12_Update

2008/12/19 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra :
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:25:19PM +0200, Yogiz wrote:
>>
>> > > Good news. I'll still wait for the announcement and for some
>> > > feedback before I roll it on. I've spent too much time
>> > > customizing my 2008.9 to mess with it.
>> > >
>> > I've received the official announcement around 30 minutes ago.
>> In this list or where?
>>
>> Could someone point out the biggest changes?
>
> OpenMoko announce list.
>
> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2008-December/28.html
>
> Rui
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Re: New 2008.12 Release

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:25:19PM +0200, Yogiz wrote:
> 
> > > Good news. I'll still wait for the announcement and for some 
> > > feedback before I roll it on. I've spent too much time 
> > > customizing my 2008.9 to mess with it.
> > > 
> > I've received the official announcement around 30 minutes ago.
> In this list or where?
> 
> Could someone point out the biggest changes?

OpenMoko announce list.

http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2008-December/28.html

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Re: New 2008.12 Release

[Robin Paulson]

2008/12/19 Timo Jyrinki :
> but the user space hasn't been adapted to it (would require changes to
> qtopia and elsewhere to take into account the new /sys paths).
>
> That said I'm using daily testing + 2.6.28 andy-tracking kernel and
> I've a modified mokoservices.py to take care of the new /sys paths
> when enabling/disabling components etc.

what specifically relating to the freerunner hardware has changed; is
there any documentation anywhere?

is http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs up to date?

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Re: New 2008.12 Release

[Yogiz]

> > Good news. I'll still wait for the announcement and for some 
> > feedback before I roll it on. I've spent too much time 
> > customizing my 2008.9 to mess with it.
> > 
> I've received the official announcement around 30 minutes ago.
In this list or where?

Could someone point out the biggest changes?

Yogiz

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Re: read-only?!?

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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Hello there,
|
| i don't know, what's wrong, but i had just in the beginning some
| failures like
|
| tar: cannot create directory 'device/bus': Read-only file system
|
| this is created for every folder; input, bus etc.. so it's normal that
| the system couldn't start. but why it is a read only file system? i
| maked from my other system to the memorycard a mkfs.ext3 . ext3 isn't
| read only i think?

If this is on a host with uSD -> full size SD adapter, these adapters
have a little slider that can be used to disable writes to the SD Card,
they are easy to knock.

Also if your filesystem is corrupted it can decide to fail gracefully by
becoming read-only.

But I have managed to knock that little slider so many times I used some
pliers to pinch the plastic so it can no longer move.

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