Status of OpenPhoenux project

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New Status of the OpenPhoenux/GTA04 project

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Re: [Gta04-owner] QtMoko v48

Am 12.09.2012 um 20:38 schrieb Radek Polak: > Thanks everyone who helped with the release and enjoy it! And many thanks to you! I have added a new entry in the software database: http://www.openphoenux.org/swi/showdetail.php?app=14 Nikolaus ___ Ope

Devroom request: World of OpenPhoenux

Hi all (sorry for cross-posting so heavily - please try to answer to *one* list only), this is a draft for a request for a FOSDEM (2nd&3rd Feb 2013) devroom. The deadline for submission is 1st Oct. https://fosdem.org/2013/call_for_devrooms.html If you have ideas how to increase the likelyhood t

Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

We have started to plan the production of the next GTA04 batch. This will include a minor board layout update (therefore the name GTA04A5). For some details what will change, please see [1]. It is very important that we can estimate the real demand and depending on that set the right price. Theref

Re: Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

Am 04.10.2012 um 14:50 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > We have started to plan the production of the next GTA04 batch. > This will include a minor board layout update (therefore the name > GTA04A5). For some details what will change, please see [1]. > > It is very import

Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

HI, Am 20.10.2012 um 23:05 schrieb Boudewijn: > On Saturday 20 October 2012 20:30:45 Michaël Parchet wrote: >> Before to buy a freerunner, I would like to make sure that, with the gta04, >> I have a 3g antenna and so I can phone throw 3g > I am quite sure. I am not sure though, whether I have bee

Fwd: [FOSDEM-Devrooms] Devroom request: World of OpenPhoenux

t are your ideas about going to FOSDEM? Plans for presentations to submit to other devrooms? Some informal meeting? Should we have a Stand? BR, Nikolaus Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail: > Von: Tias Guns > Datum: 21. Oktober 2012 20:42:09 MESZ > An: "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schall

Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

Hi, Am 22.10.2012 um 09:12 schrieb robin: > I was wondering if you still, even though your frustration level must now be > almost saturated, could make an estimate if the last GTA04 preorder batch is > likely to be send out as an early Christmas Gifts or rather in 2013? You are unfortunately

Re: [Gta04-owner] No gta-04 available

. I'll post the answer a soon as I got it. Wow! Let's hope this is not a scam, although it looks like one... > > Regards > > Thomas > ----- Mail original - > | De: "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" > | À: "List for Openmoko community discussion"

Re: [FOSDEM-Devrooms] Devroom request: World of OpenPhoenux

Hi Boudewijn, great ideas! Am 22.10.2012 um 22:43 schrieb Boudewijn: > On Monday 22 October 2012 12:33:33 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> FYI. >> >> To me it appears that they have less rooms to dispose than in the previous >> years. I know one other project tha

Re: openphoenux review on mobilejournal.net

Am 30.10.2012 um 17:48 schrieb urodelo: > ...hard hitting the gta04 > > It's in Italian language > > http://www.mobilejournal.net/produttori/openphoenux-2804-lo-smartphone-opensource-vale-749-euro-11911 Tnx for the link! I have used Google translation and hope that I did understand it correct

Open Hard/Software Workshop in Munich, Germany

As in previous years there will be an open hard- and software development and meeting workshop (http://www.ohsw.de) in Munich, organized by local freaks coming from Zaurus, Openmoko, OpenPandora, GTA04, etc. Well, this time not really *in* Munich but in the town of Garching, which is just nearby (

Re: Ten general QtMoko and Debian questions

Am 10.11.2012 um 21:42 schrieb Harry Prevor: > I just aquired a Freerunner, and after checking out the list of > distributions on the wiki I've narrowed it down to Debian and QtMoko. > I'm leaning toward QtMoko but I'm unsure about a few things: > > 1. What are the advantages to using QTMoko ove

Re: [GTA-04] multiboot with QtMoko/SHR

Hi, with the new boot system [5] you can just format the heads/cylinders as you like and ignore [1] as long as your x-loader in NAND is intact. And even then, I suggest to follow the GTA04 documentation and not some inofficial beagle board pages. The new boot system scans for the first kernel it f

paging for some GTA04 group tour participants

Hi, everyone should now have received an information about the status of the group tour, and many have already received their GTA04 board. But we have not yet received a confirmation of the shipment address from all participants, although we have a unit to ship. This may be because the e-mail was

Re: [Community] paging for some GTA04 group tour participants

Am 21.11.2012 um 10:30 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > Hi, > everyone should now have received an information about > the status of the group tour, and many have already received > their GTA04 board. > > But we have not yet received a confirmation of the shipment

Re: f2fs on GTA02

Am 06.12.2012 um 22:19 schrieb Phil Vandry: > Hello Freerunner users, > > I am interested in using the new f2fs filesystem created by Kim Jaegeuk at > Samsung on the µSD cards of a bunch of GTA02s. Right now it's undergoing > testing in linux-next and there are several fresh discussion threads

Re: f2fs on GTA02

Am 06.12.2012 um 22:42 schrieb arne anka: >>> Hello Freerunner users, >>> >>> I am interested in using the new f2fs filesystem created by Kim Jaegeuk at >>> Samsung on the µSD cards of a bunch of GTA02s. Right now it's ... >>> >>> 1. Get Linux 3.7 working on the GTA02 > >> 3. develop 3.7/3.8

Re: Pictures of new alu case

Am 07.12.2012 um 11:41 schrieb Radek Polak: > Hi, > in june i posted pictures of my 3d printed case on my blog. One of the > responses was from Vladimir Zima. He offered to model up case milled from ALU > and here are first photos of his work: > > https://picasaweb.google.com/11496104000

Re: Pictures of new alu case

Am 07.12.2012 um 12:35 schrieb robin: > does anyone know how different materials (wood, steel, plastic, alu) > influence modem reception (gsm / gps)? Pastic: best Wool: depends (may get wet) Metal: has a big influence (both GPS and UMTS) and needs a careful antenna design to work (no differ

+++ Group Tour finished +++ OpenPhoenux 3704 samples available +++ GTA04A4 Second Choice offer +++ GTA04A5 preorders +++

Please read the full text here: And I would like to invite you to subscribe to that list to get such information first hand: Nikolaus __

Happy New Year!

Hi all, I would like to wish everyone a happy new year 2013! And, please stay tuned - the OpenPhoenux has finally taken off and is ascending to new levels this year. Some great ideas are already in the pipeline and waiting for having their feasibility proven. Nikolaus PS: there will be a "World

Re: GTA02 boot without battery

Am 02.01.2013 um 13:30 schrieb Benjamin Deering: > My gta02, or possibly the bare board I removed to convert my GTA04 is getting > a new job as a wifi audio forwarder to let me play music over my hifi > wirelessly. I would like to remove the battery from this phone once it is > set up to preve

Re: Entry level Ubuntu smartphone

Hi, Am 03.01.2013 um 11:22 schrieb Patryk Benderz: > Hi all, and especially Nikolaus, > here http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/operators-and-oems they write: > "We have the needs of [...] OEMs and ODMs in mind in bringing Ubuntu to > the phone." Yes, this is great news! > Keeping in min

Re: Entry level Ubuntu smartphone

to the project. Maybe if someone is visiting CES next week, he/she could talk to them? <http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone/contact-us> Another info from that page: it will not be ready for users before 4Q2013. > > with kind regards. > > Patrick > > 2013/1/3 Dr. H. Niko

Re: GTA04-Screen size

Am 04.01.2013 um 00:02 schrieb Travis Bachelder: > In reference to the Ubuntu OS development, Have we thought about making the > "GTA04" screen larger? What are the limitations with this? Main limitations: needs new case design and a larger display backlight needs a bigger battery. But we alr

Re: Entry level Ubuntu smartphone

Am 04.01.2013 um 08:55 schrieb Patryk Benderz: > [cut] >> Perhaps it would be a good idea to inform Canonical about your >> project. gta04 will be a good testing plattform for them and perhaps >> they can contribute in different ways to the project. > [cut] > Exactly: we already have testing plat

Re: Entry level Ubuntu smartphone

Am 04.01.2013 um 13:56 schrieb Patryk Benderz: > [cut] >> The OpenPhoneux should not be tied and favour one specific OS. It >> should be and remain open to run everthing! > I meant only branding. Like putting a sticker with Ubuntu Logo on > back/front of the phone. For me it was obvious, that the

Re: [FOSDEM-Devrooms] World of OpenPhoenux

wijn: > On Monday 22 October 2012 12:33:33 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> FYI. >> >> To me it appears that they have less rooms to dispose than in the previous >> years. I know one other project that did have a devroom in the past 10 >> years didn't get

Re: FOSDEM-Stand:World of OpenPhoenux

Am 07.01.2013 um 09:27 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > Hi all, > we finally got confirmation for a stand at FOSDEM 2013 for the World of > OpenPhoenux. > > OpenPhoneux world includes (but is not limited to - proposals are welcome): > * Openmoko (GTA01, GTA02) > * GTA

Re: Ubuntu / Firefox OS for Openmoko

Am 11.01.2013 um 19:04 schrieb robin: > The biggest problem I see with the GTA04 is > the very limited amount of active developers and the reliability of the > distri- > butions. I don't think it can handle much more losses on the developer side The FOSDEM stand will be a good opportunity to a

Re: [Community] OpenPhoenux Logo contest - Phase 2 (voting)

Hi all, we are currently running a logo contest for the new OpenPhoenux umbrella project that intends to cover all old and new openmoko activities. We have received 11 proposals (and sometimes variants). You can now participate by judging the proposals. Please think about: • does it conn

Re: [Community] OpenPhoenux Logo contest - Phase 2 (voting)

Hi, Am 15.01.2013 um 13:48 schrieb pike: > Hi > > http://www.openphoenux.org/logo/ > > Too bad I didn't read about that contest soon enough. Well, the idea to do that is just 3 days old... And time to get it printed until FOSDEM is short. > Kudos to everyone who submitted a design! > > If th

Re: Ubuntu / Firefox OS for Openmoko?

Hi, Am 15.01.2013 um 13:18 schrieb Yury Sakarinen: > > acceptable GTA04 price poll results: > > up to 300 euro - 22% > up to 400 euro - 48% > up to 500 euro - 15% > up to 600 euro - 15% > > Total votes: 27 Thanks for running the poll! It matches with our experiences, that a GTA04 costs more

GTA04A5 ready to be pre-ordered

Hi all, finally, the GTA04A5 batch is ready for production and we are open for pre-orders through What will be different to GTA04A4? * the GPS receiver can provide a 1 second impulse interrupt to the CPU * the infrared receiver can be

Stripped down GTA04A5 - interested?

Am 22.01.2013 um 10:02 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > Hi all, > finally, the GTA04A5 batch is ready for production and we are open for > pre-orders through > > <http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04> > Since we know that some of you can't

Re: GTA04A5 ready to be pre-ordered

Am 22.01.2013 um 12:43 schrieb robin: > could you explain which of the changes will also be able for the GTA04A4 > boards. > clearly hardware changes wont be there, but is eg the GPS Sampling frequency > possible for older GTA04s via a patch? None of these changes can be applied to the GTA04A3

Re: GTA04A5 ready to be pre-ordered

Am 23.01.2013 um 11:42 schrieb Radek Polak: > On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 07:55:23 PM robin wrote: > >> so at what frequency is the gps signal being processed currently with the >> gta04a4? if I remember correctly the gta02 had 5Hz sampling frequency? >> if it was lower for the current gta04a4

Re: [Community] GTA04A5 ready to be pre-ordered

Am 22.01.2013 um 12:29 schrieb NeilBrown: > On Tue, 22 Jan 2013 10:02:38 +0100 "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" > wrote: > > >> Preliminary (there may still come minor changes coming from PCB >> Layout tuning and from first production feedback) schematics can be

Re: [Gta04-owner] Fwd: [FOSDEM] Mobile schedule apps -- ConfClerk for QtMoko/SHR?

gt; Who is willing to jump into optimizing qt-settings (font-size, etc)? > > Attached is the IPK and the BB file. I'll try to move it to upstream SHR > ASAP! > > Cheers, > Lukas > > Am 21.01.2013 06:57, schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: >> Hi, >> is it

Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

Am 28.01.2013 um 03:06 schrieb Harry Prevor: > On 11/10/12, Liz wrote: >> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:57:39 -0500 >> Harry Prevor wrote: >> >>> On 10/31/12, Harald Welte wrote: Hi Paul, I put it on my TODO list and will hopefully be able to do it still today. Thanks

World of OpenPhoenux @ FOSDEM

There is a new WIki Page for the FOSDEM stand Please feel free to add any content that you think is important for FOSDEM 2013. And we invite everyone who has origins in Openmoko, Zaurus, Nanonote etc. to come and join us. Have fun!

Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

Am 28.01.2013 um 16:12 schrieb robin: > true, but there are a lot of GTA02 users and there is stuff on the wiki which > is important to GTA02 and GTA04. I wouldn't mind, if it was hosted at > gta04.org > but if I remember correctly gta04.org was only supposed to contain > information > on open

Re: QtMoko and X applicatiions

Am 28.01.2013 um 02:49 schrieb Paul Wise: > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Neil Jerram wrote: > >> Also, for GTA04 I think the installed xorg.conf has the wrong > > Why is there an installed xorg.conf at all? We are well past the days > where Xorg needs a configuration file, it gained automat

Re: QtMoko and X applicatiions

Hi, using the new 3.7 kernel with debian squeeze Xorg also makes troubles... Am 28.01.2013 um 00:36 schrieb Neil Jerram: > Radek Polak writes: > >> On Friday, January 25, 2013 04:37:05 PM Iain B. Findleton wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the hint. >>> >>> When I start QM from the qtmoko menu, I get

Re: QtMoko and X applicatiions

Am 30.01.2013 um 07:39 schrieb Radek Polak: > On Tuesday, January 29, 2013 05:12:45 PM Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > Hi, > > using the new 3.7 kernel with debian squeeze Xorg also makes troubles... > > > > Am 28.01.2013 um 00:36 schrieb Neil Jerram: > >

Re: QtMoko and X applicatiions

Hi, Am 30.01.2013 um 09:22 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: > "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" writes: >>> wget http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/tslib/libts-0.0-0_1.0-8lindi1_armel.deb >>> dpkg -i libts-0.0-0_1.0-8lindi1_armel.deb > > That package can disappear any time. I

Re: Another open hardware mod experiment: RFID-tag/Reader board for the Freerunner, Nanonote (?) and Beagleboard

a? > > http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=RFID%20Board > > > > Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller писал 2011-04-11 11:23: >> Dear all, >> besides the GTA04 and the Freerunner Navigation Board, >> we have been working behind the scenes on a new hardware mod, &g

Re: FOSDEM 2013 - World of OpenPhoenux

Am 04.02.2013 um 22:30 schrieb Boudewijn: > On Sunday 03 February 2013 14:54:11 Christ van Willegen wrote: > > I was at Fosdem, and met Nikolaus Schaller, Boudewijn and Christoph > > Mair IRL. That was a lot of fun talking to them, and discussing the > > OpenPhoenux future! > > Lukas was also m

Re: GTA02: NavBoard V3 causing GPS interference

Am 07.02.2013 um 14:36 schrieb Pascal Gosselin: > > Yesterday I was able to confirm that the installation of the Golden Delicious > NavBoard V3 very seriously degrades the performance of GPS when using the > built-in GPS antenna. Getting a 3D fix is taking over 20 minutes on average > using

Re: [Community] FOSDEM 2013 - World of OpenPhoenux

Am 08.02.2013 um 17:31 schrieb Lukas Märdian: > Am 05.02.2013 11:50, schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: >> for those who did not attend, here are the first photos (most made by me >> and some by Lukas) and a movie is in preparation: >> >> http://www.openphoenux.org/

Re: GTA02: NavBoard V3 causing GPS interference

Am 07.02.2013 um 14:36 schrieb Pascal Gosselin: > > Yesterday I was able to confirm that the installation of the Golden Delicious > NavBoard V3 very seriously degrades the performance of GPS when using the > built-in GPS antenna. Getting a 3D fix is taking over 20 minutes on average > using

Re: Ubuntu phone

Am 10.02.2013 um 17:12 schrieb Matthias Apitz: > > Hi, > > Have you watched this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpWHJDLsqTU > How do they get this speed on the screen? Do they use something else > than X11? There is also not mutch technical background information at It could use OpenGL (can

GTA04 news in brief

* 3D PVR/SGX530 driver updated to latest version to support (non-free) libs in armel and armhf * V4L2 camera driver (kernel and user space) starts to show something Full reports: http://lists.goldelico.com/mailman/listinfo/gta04-owner ___ Openmoko commu

Re: Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

Am 04.10.2012 um 14:50 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > We have started to plan the production of the next GTA04 batch. > This will include a minor board layout update (therefore the name > GTA04A5). For some details what will change, please see [1]. > > It is very import

Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

Am 26.03.2013 um 17:00 schrieb Ed Kapitein: > <>< >> the kernel, boot loader etc. >> >> If you have ideas how to stimulate demand, please do! >> >> Nikolaus Schaller >> > Hi Nikolaus, > > Thanks for your great and continued work on the GTA0x. > > Wouldn't it be nice if the GTA04 could be a s

Re: UMTS frequencies on GTA04

Am 31.03.2013 um 14:33 schrieb thomasg: > On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Liz wrote: >> I've just got a new SIM card for a specific network. It says "Your >> device must be compatible with UMTS 850 and 2100 to take full advantage" >> I can't find any documentation about UMTS frequencies on the

Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

Am 02.04.2013 um 22:35 schrieb Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli: > On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 11:22:39 +0100 > "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" wrote: > >> So we unfortunately have to postpone the production of GTA04A5 boards, >> until someone manages to create more demand.

Re: GSM Firmware+Wiki

Am 26.04.2013 um 09:56 schrieb Jose Luis Perez Diez: > El Thursday 25 April 2013 03:38:18 Paul Wise va escriure: >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 AM, joerg Reisenweber wrote: >> >>> anyway thanks for reporting, glad it worked for you, enjoy MOKO11! I dunno >>> about wiki admins, isn't it a wiki a

OpenPhoenux @ LinuxTag 22.-25. May 2013, Berlin

Hi all, I am happy to announce that there are two activities where we would like to see you all (and your friends) in Berlin this year! 1. there is a shared booth (#141) for Linux Embedded, OpenEmbedded where we will have some OpenPhoenux devices on display and where we all can meet for dicuss

Re: [Gta04-owner] Invitation to indicate interest in next batch of GTA04A5 boards

Am 30.04.2013 um 01:14 schrieb Christ van Willegen: > Hi, > > What we could do is have a special offer at the next Fosdem. If > _everyone_ (thousands of people...) (or 90% of the people there) > pledges an $x amount of money, they will get a Free (as-in-speech) > phone. That way, you can probabl

Help to grow The Independent Mobile Tool Community!

Hi all, today I would like to ask you to help to grow the OpenPhoenux Independent Mobile Tool Community. Why do we need to grow the community? We need many more active members contributing in all aspects of such a project. We need developers, maintainers, testers, people discussing new ideas, wr

Re: Help to grow The Independent Mobile Tool Community!

Hi Patryk, Am 08.05.2013 um 17:34 schrieb Patryk Benderz: > [cut] >> apparently useful. And because the neighbour also has it. Like a mouse in >> an experiment. > ...so sad... and so true. This is well thought text - will be great > help in discussions. Especially for me - I often need to d

Re: Help to grow The Independent Mobile Tool Community!

I have also pushed this to Reddit: http://redd.it/1dzp8f So if you have an account, please discuss and push up. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Help to grow The Independent Mobile Tool Community!

Am 09.05.2013 um 10:13 schrieb robin: > this is indeed well said, but also points out how feeble mankind is ... > the problem I see is even if you can convince someone that this is the > only strategy to follow, they won't be able to buy a device at a price > they are willing to accept (even when

Re: Help to grow The Independent Mobile Tool Community!

Am 09.05.2013 um 10:57 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > I have also pushed this to Reddit: > > http://redd.it/1dzp8f > > So if you have an account, please discuss and push up. We have fallen on http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/ down to position #19 of #25 and may leave the

Re: Help to grow The Independent Mobile Tool Community!

on. > Honestly, I've always seen the lack of a "press office" here... it's not > fault of anybody and surely this task can't be assigned always to the same > people... but imho we really need a better publishing system for the > community and its news Y

Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move

Am 14.05.2013 um 02:24 schrieb Patrick Beck: > Hello., > > i want to say thank you, too. It was a great time with my Freerunner. The > first steps with a Smartphone. Openmoko is a great Project > > and i hope we get it continue with Openphoenux > Yes, a continuation is what we all dream of.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move

Hi Patryk, Am 14.05.2013 um 15:42 schrieb Patryk Benderz: > [cut] >> Yes, a continuation is what we all dream of. Please consider >> subscribing to the OpenPhoenux mailing list > Hi Nikolaus, > I just do not get one thing... why you started new ML? Why don't you > continue OpenPhoneux here? It wa

Re: [ANNOUNCE] openmoko.org server move

Am 14.05.2013 um 18:37 schrieb Patryk Benderz: > [cut] >> OpenPhoenux != OpenMoko. Rather >=. > I know, the same way: GTA02!=GTA01, rather GTA02>GTA01, however it was > (and is) successfully discussed here. It is similar with GTA04 which GTA01 and GTA02 (and the planned GTA03) were Openmok

Fwd: [Community] LinuxTag Berlin starting tomorrow!

FYI because I think it could be interesting here as well Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail: > Hi all, > this is a reminder that LinuxTag is starting tomorrow and OpenPhoenux has > some > participation. > > a) there is a Linux & Embedded booth having some devices on display > > b) there is a

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Am 22.08.2013 um 21:28 schrieb Bob Ham: > On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 21:19 +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: > >> Well, there are (or were) complete phones based on GTA04 available to >> buy from Golden Delicious, so yes, OpenPhoenux has already achieved >> "production of any phone". > > The phon

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Am 22.08.2013 um 21:00 schrieb Joshua Judson Rosen: > Ben Wong writes: >> >> Here's Shuttleworth's upbeat closing comment: >> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge?c=activity >> >> I wonder if OpenPhoenix has an opportunity now, with all those >> frustrated would-be buyers out there. >

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone

Am 23.08.2013 um 12:08 schrieb Bob Ham: > On 2013-08-23 09:38, joerg Reisenweber wrote: >> On Fri 23 August 2013 10:35:38 Bob Ham wrote: >>> On 2013-08-23 07:26, openm...@pulster.de wrote: > >>> The GTA04 *is* out of production and no longer for sale. >> >> Says who? > > Says Golden Delicious:

Re: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3

Am 23.08.2013 um 12:10 schrieb Bob Ham: > On 2013-08-23 10:02, openm...@pulster.de wrote: > >> Its not out of Production, but production is stopped > > Err.. > > What's the difference between "out of Production" and "production is stopped"? Compare with a train: stopped: is at the railway st

Re: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3

Am 23.08.2013 um 12:47 schrieb Bob Ham: > On 2013-08-23 10:38, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> Am 23.08.2013 um 12:10 schrieb Bob Ham: > >>> What's the difference between "out of Production" and "production is >>> stopped"? >>

Re: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3

Am 23.08.2013 um 13:18 schrieb Bob Ham: > On 2013-08-23 10:56, Paul Wise wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Bob Ham wrote: >> >>> I don't understand. What is the green light with respect to the GTA04? >> >> That was already mentioned; money for components being available. > > The fac

Re: Building a new totally free phone

> > However, can GSM really be a base for secure communication anyway? IMHO the need for the GSM stack being open sourced is largely overestimated. Security experts say that the question is how to secure communication over an unsecure communication medium. Depending on which level you want t

Re: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3

Am 23.08.2013 um 15:45 schrieb Bob Ham: > On 2013-08-23 11:27, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> Am 23.08.2013 um 13:18 schrieb Bob Ham: >> >>> On 2013-08-23 10:56, Paul Wise wrote: >>>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Bob Ham wrote: >>>> &g

Re: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3

Am 23.08.2013 um 17:05 schrieb kardan: > On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:45:20 + > Bob Ham wrote: > >> On 2013-08-23 11:27, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >>> Am 23.08.2013 um 13:18 schrieb Bob Ham: >>> >>>> On 2013-08-23 10:56, Paul Wise wrote: &g

Re: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3

On the Road --- hns Am 23.08.2013 um 22:45 schrieb Bob Ham : > On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 17:30 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> Am 23.08.2013 um 15:45 schrieb Bob Ham: >> >>> On 2013-08-23 11:27, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >>>> Am 23.08.2013 um 1

Re: Releasing GTA04 hardware source files (was: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3)

Hi Bob, Am 24.08.2013 um 02:10 schrieb Bob Ham: > On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 00:20 +0200, joerg Reisenweber wrote: > >> Can't you finally come up with some *suggestions* or - even >> better - real actions that would help? > > At present the community is beholden to a particular company which > prod

Re: Reasons why people could be interested in this community

Am 24.08.2013 um 01:51 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: > > > On the Road --- hns > > Am 23.08.2013 um 22:45 schrieb Bob Ham : > >> On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 17:30 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >>> Am 23.08.2013 um 15:45 schrieb Bob Ham: >>>

Re: production & displays

Am 24.08.2013 um 12:57 schrieb kardan: > On Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:36:42 +0200 > "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" wrote: > >> If 200 people agree to put 599 EUR on the table we could start >> production tomorrow (well, we need 6-8 weeks to get the components) >> an

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone

Hi Radek, Am 24.08.2013 um 14:22 schrieb Radek Polak: > On Friday, August 23, 2013 10:21:33 PM arne anka wrote: > >> the missing money is just the indicator for this project's failure to >> create sufficient public interest or even awareness. >> while the GTA01/2 was a nice idea, it was already

Re: Reasons why people could be interested in this community

Am 24.08.2013 um 13:36 schrieb joerg Reisenweber: > On Sat 24 August 2013 13:00:45 Bob Ham wrote: >> On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 09:56 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >>>> Why are you still a member of this community >> >> I want freedom. I want a phone that r

Re: Releasing GTA04 hardware source files (was: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3)

Am 24.08.2013 um 13:26 schrieb Bob Ham: > > There is a reason for stipulating this. Having to convert a work into a > format suitable for making modifications represents a barrier. It's a > barrier to freedom. It can be abused. I don't understand that. The reason of open source is that you ca

Re: Releasing GTA04 hardware source files (was: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3)

Am 24.08.2013 um 17:27 schrieb Bob Ham: > On Sat, 2013-08-24 at 11:26 +, Bob Ham wrote: > >> Even disregarding this reasoning, let's assume that it *is* just about >> convenience. Why is that bad? Why would you not want to help people >> take the GTA04 design and create a derivative? Why

Re: Releasing GTA04 hardware source files (was: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3)

Am 24.08.2013 um 20:42 schrieb Bob Ham: > On 2013-08-24 18:32, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> Am 24.08.2013 um 13:26 schrieb Bob Ham: >>> >>> There is a reason for stipulating this. Having to convert a work into a >>> format suitable for making modific

Re: Releasing GTA04 hardware source files (was: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3)

Am 24.08.2013 um 20:49 schrieb Bob Ham: > On 2013-08-24 18:41, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: >> Am 24.08.2013 um 17:27 schrieb Bob Ham: > >>> I would appreciate it if you would answer my questions about helping >>> others create derivatives of the GTA04. &

Re: Going outside - GTA04 website

Am 24.08.2013 um 18:11 schrieb Lukas Märdian: > Am 24.08.2013 17:36, schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak: >> I've also created quick draft by myself: http://dosowisko.net/gta04/ Wow, that looks good! Almost like a kickstarter project page :) BR, Nikolaus ___

Re: Releasing GTA04 hardware source files (was: community Digest, Vol 353, Issue 3)

Am 24.08.2013 um 22:08 schrieb Paul Wise: > For the GTA04 adapter board you are already distributing the files > that Bob Ham is asking for (AFAICT - not an EE). > > http://projects.goldelico.com/p/gta04-main/downloads/42/ > > The adapter board license (CC-BY-SA) is more friendly than the GTA04

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

Am 26.08.2013 um 16:24 schrieb Tomas Nackaerts: > Hi all! > > I actually think this is a great idea! I always liked the N900 formfactor. > But > is it technically possible? I remember somebody mention that the option modem > is quite big? Yes, but it is the flattest one we could get. And fro

Re: GTA04-N900 vel. Neo900

Am 26.08.2013 um 14:35 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak: > Hello! > > Short introduction, as I was rather inactive in this community > recently: I'm dos, long time Openmoko supporter, owner of GTA02 and > (now broken) Nokia N900. Few years ago I was quite an active developer > of FSO (opimd) and S

Fwd: [Community] 5th OpenPhoenux Hard&Software Workshop in Munich, Germany

Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail: > Von: "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" > Datum: 11. September 2013 10:22:23 MESZ > An: OpenPhoenux Community > Betreff: [Community] 5th OpenPhoenux Hard&Software Workshop in Munich, Germany > Antwort an: OpenPhoenux Community &

Re: Labour conditions and mineral sources

Hi kardan, Am 24.09.2013 um 04:52 schrieb kardan: > Hi, > > I would like to add production stories to the website. Also more info > about the companies that produces the prototypes so far would be nice. > There is nothing available about hardware[1] or involved companies what > I could put to th

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Hi Stefan, Am 25.09.2013 um 05:01 schrieb Stefan Monnier: > The main problem I see with such Free and/or Open phone is the "small > production" syndrome. Small productions mean high prices and low > reliability, whereas we need reasonable prices and reliability. Yes, small production is the key

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

Am 25.09.2013 um 20:45 schrieb Stefan Monnier: >> I don't see reliability as a problem because it depends on what type >> of reliability you are thinking of: component, software, hardware, >> production, or availability. > > Small production runs means very few people have a chance of > discover

Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone (right now)

> Best regards > > mparchet > >> Le 25 sept. 2013 à 21:32, "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" a >> écrit : >> >> >> Am 25.09.2013 um 20:45 schrieb Stefan Monnier: >> >>>> I don't see reliability as a problem because it d

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