Re: Idea: Optimal noisy vibrator

2006-12-15 Thread Shawn Rutledge
The intention of a vibrator is to silently alert you when the phone is in your pocket. I think the sound of vibration on a table is an awful horrible sound, and often results in the phone vibrating itself off the table too. On 12/15/06, Ole Tange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the phone is

Re: graphics hardware; OpenVG

2007-02-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 2/4/07, Jon Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you would want to add openvg support lower than X11. You should talk to the X and Cairo developers about this. Well I wondered how a standard like that can improve application portability. QT, X, and OpenGL (and GTK) are all somewhat

Re: T-Mobile finagling advice?

2007-02-10 Thread Shawn Rutledge
Unfortunatly, It looks to me like T-Mobile is currently not interested in letting its pre-paid customers use GPRS to go anywhere outside their Silly T-Zones walled garden. Let me guess. This contains such things as weather reports, news headlines, ringtones, ... All available for a small

Locked phones (was Re: A timely rant: Time for SIM-free phones.)

2007-02-26 Thread Shawn Rutledge
SIMs are great - I don't like SIM-free phones like Verizon ones that require somebody at Verizon to switch the service to a different phone. With GSM you just switch the SIM yourself. Of course it would also be nice to be able to use different devices without having to physically switch the SIM

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-11 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 5/10/07, Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile Embedded wrote: Shawn, I have been very involved in this area at Sun now for a couple of years. Let me add come comments: Hardware accelerated Java is actually fairly common already, at least in the

Re: firefox for mobiles

2007-05-13 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 5/11/07, Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The big problem is the lack of debug tools. I write a new extension. I then want to profile it, to find out how much CPU, and how much CPU it makes the core use. I can't. Worse, the same problem applies to most of the XUL/XBL/JS core. I was

Re: Neo1973 Update!

2007-06-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
Hmm. Are there any existing devices or eval boards that have this chip? On 6/4/07, Florent THIERY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From official SMedia press release for Glamo3662 [1]: ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [SVHMPC] concept phone with only a touchscreen for UI

2007-06-06 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 6/6/07, Sven Neuhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could just whip one up in a CAD program and make it available at a 3D-printer store like http://www.rapidobject.com/ for everyone to order. Wow that's a cool service! Is there anything like that in the US?

Re: OpenMoko != Neo1973 (Was: Openness (was RE: Concern for usability and ergonomics))

2007-06-13 Thread Shawn Rutledge
Would you post more details about this please? I have used JTAG for programming Atmel micros but am not yet very familiar with how it is used for system exploration when there are multiple devices on the bus. What is your favorite hardware and software for doing this? On 6/12/07, [EMAIL

Re: OPENMOKO.COM IS UP

2007-07-10 Thread Shawn Rutledge
I managed to place an order a few hours ago (finally... had lots of problems actually submitting the form the first time). It says Openmoko Online Shop - Step 3/3 (complete) Your Order request has been processed. You will receive a confirmation email within 24 hours. but I didn't receive the

Re: Shipping costs

2007-07-10 Thread Shawn Rutledge
Maybe they are using a commercial service. Via EMS (postal rush air mail, takes about a week from the US to Belarus) it would be much less. On 7/9/07, Gena Batsyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm shocked! I wanted to purchase neo to Belarus - 140 bucks for shipping, that's a half of the device

Re: OPENMOKO.COM IS UP

2007-07-12 Thread Shawn Rutledge
I got the automated confirmation, about 7 or 8 hours later. On 7/10/07, Jonas Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Rutledge wrote: I managed to place an order a few hours ago (finally... had lots of problems actually submitting the form the first time). It says Openmoko Online Shop - Step

Re: Not the free phone (was: Re: Again: Advertising thoughts

2007-07-16 Thread Shawn Rutledge
How about simply the youPhone, or uPhone? On 7/16/07, Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I completely agree. My idea is to make two advertisment campains: one on maisntream media: maybe tv, maybe radio, flyre, poster, newspapers, wathever. This ads would be something like: The free phone,

Re: Not the free phone (was: Re: Again: Advertising thoughts

2007-07-16 Thread Shawn Rutledge
I thought of that too but don't see it as a problem. Still seems like a euphonious name to me. On 7/16/07, Marc-Olivier Barre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/16/07, Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about simply the youPhone, or uPhone? First thing I thought about when I saw

Re: Multi-touch, screen size, and case shape.

2007-07-23 Thread Shawn Rutledge
Yes I agree with all your points. I suspect the Apple patents are on the interaction techniques, and possibly on some specific hardware. Obviously multi-touch existed a few years ago (FingerWorks was around, and I think the FTIR method was invented even earlier). We will see how the lawsuits

Bug 256, gsmd sudden death and making phone calls

2007-08-16 Thread Shawn Rutledge
I just got my Neo today (order 2579) and flashed it with openmoko-devel-image-fic-gta01-20070813013449.rootfs.jffs2 uImage-2.6.21.6-moko11-r1_0_0_2688_0-fic-gta01.bin gsmd started up, but by the time I could ssh into the phone, gsmd was not running. (I wish it would write a log.

Re: Bug 256, gsmd sudden death and making phone calls

2007-08-16 Thread Shawn Rutledge
I can also reproduce bug 705, and I found the log in /tmp/gsm.log so I posted it on bugzilla. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: How about a slim Openmoko design?

2007-08-22 Thread Shawn Rutledge
I think less PDA is the wrong direction to go with this product. Future versions ought to be more iPhone-like in form factor (as slim as they can make it, and frameless or at least nearly, with a high ratio of screen real estate to overall size). As for hardware hacking, I doubt that most of us

Re: FM Radio

2007-08-23 Thread Shawn Rutledge
DAB is only in Europe right? How about if the phone had an expansion connector, next to some cavity that isn't already filled with something (I hear there are some of those, internally), and you could add modules as you please. The connector would need to have a few GPIO connections to the main

Re: FM Radio

2007-08-23 Thread Shawn Rutledge
PROTECTED] wrote: from what I've seen/heard, most of the GPIO lines are already taken up by alt-functions, but we could have the (spi/nssp)/i2c busses brought out to that location On 8/23/07, Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAB is only in Europe right? How about if the phone had

SMedia 3362

2007-08-31 Thread Shawn Rutledge
Is there any technical info available about this chip? Is there an X driver for it, or one in progress? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-01 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/1/07, Raphael Jacquot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shawn Rutledge wrote: Is there any technical info available about this chip? Is there an X driver for it, or one in progress? depending on the timeframe, perhaps FIC could contact or help the opengraphics people with their project

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-01 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/1/07, Marcin Juszkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dnia sobota, 1 września 2007, Shawn Rutledge napisał: What about the XScale accelerators? There was one designed specifically as a companion to the PXA270. Are they more open? Intel 2700G? It is closed - the only source released

Re: SMedia 3362

2007-09-01 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/1/07, Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is the NVIDIA GoForce 4800 and I don't see datasheets for it either. I found datasheets with real, substantial datasheets for these: Silicon Motion SM502 Phillips/NXP PNX17XX series Renesas HD64412 Epson S1D13513 (but it only has bitblt

omit qemu from OE build?

2007-09-01 Thread Shawn Rutledge
After the compiler badness on my one gentoo system (which I have no idea how to resolve) I decided to try on another machine which happens to be 64-bit and with gcc 4.1, so there isn't much hope of getting qemu to run. But openmoko-devel-image or openmoko-image depend on it. Is there a way to

Re: omit qemu from OE build?

2007-09-02 Thread Shawn Rutledge
Thanks. I got past qemu now and it's getting stuck on qtopia. (Again, why do I need that for openmoko?) On 9/1/07, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve wrote: The only further suggestion I can give you if to clean out the

Re: omit qemu from OE build?

2007-09-02 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/2/07, Marcin Juszkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dnia niedziela, 2 września 2007, Shawn Rutledge napisał: I got past qemu now and it's getting stuck on qtopia. (Again, why do I need that for openmoko?) qtopia or qmake? Qmake is needed to build webkit which is used by openmoko

Re: AW: omit qemu from OE build?

2007-09-03 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/3/07, Francesco Riosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcin Juszkiewicz ha scritto: Dnia poniedziałek, 3 września 2007, Francesco Riosa napisał: on gentoo try: Also try to remove not needed content from mail. Would be good to try to answer under post not on top of it. Sorry I

Re: omit qemu from OE build?

2007-09-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/3/07, Eric Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To workaround the problem you had with gentoo and uicmocv4-native_4.3.1 please see bug 747 http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=747 Thanks I'll try that. ___ OpenMoko

Re: mount the phone filesystem over USB?

2007-09-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/3/07, Alessandro Iurlano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/3/07, Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anybody having success with nfs or sshfs or some other method? I installed openssh to give it a try, which seems to be installed correctly but when I try to mount it: [proton

Re: Neo Sound and USB Questions

2007-09-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 8/17/07, Clarke Wixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look at this picture: http://www.apc.com/products/moreimages.cfm?partnum=UPB10aPos=5 As you will see, it has a female mini-B socket from which it charges itself, and a female full-size A socket to which it supplies power. Uh oh... makes you

Re: ATI to provide specs (was: Re: SMedia 3362)

2007-09-07 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/6/07, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It may be worth talking with ATI again. Since this announcement, I don't think it is too far fetched to at least get the same deal you currently have with SMedia. I wouldn't be surprised if the people you were talking to had no idea this sort of

Re: Apple is going to beat all competitors

2007-09-07 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/7/07, Nkoli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The mass produced version will be $450. There will also be the issue of nokia's upcoming touchscreen device to contend with. I think it will need to be $300 or less to sell large quantities. ___ OpenMoko

Re: Apple is going to beat all competitors

2007-09-07 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/7/07, Raphael Jacquot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it appear those things are so expensive that I couldn't find any price for it. (searching for secure cell phone on google) also, it appears that none of those things can talk to one another, each doing it's little thing. now, if we can have

Re: ATI to provide specs (was: Re: SMedia 3362)

2007-09-10 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/10/07, Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: guys, as I indicated before, we already have the best possible support from Smedia. Not only have we some promises or statements, but we actually have signed a contract with them, binding them to support us to the utmost level. As indicated

Re: p2p/mesh cellphone network

2007-09-11 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/11/07, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: didn't we discuss this a few weeks ago? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6987784.stm I'm wondering what they had to do to the radio to make it possible, or if it is at all with GSM. Sounds like maybe they used something different. Of

Re: [Data Calls] over [Wifi Mesh network]

2007-09-12 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/12/07, Francesco Pistillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a phone is switched on, it begins to look for other phones within range. If it finds them, it starts to connect and extend the radio network... ...When a number is dialled a handset checks to see if the person

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-19 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: X does not however provide an OpenGL ES API, neither does GDK. Qtopia on the other hand does allow OpenGL ES integration. ... I suspect this is a moot point anyway as I doubt we'll ever see an OpenGL ES library/driver for the SMedia. I

Re: Qtopia coming for Neo1973

2007-09-19 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 9/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (with the wrong kind of word-wrap, unfortunately): X is client server architecture which uses sockets. The server draws things on behalf of the clients. Rather than clients having to understand the X protocol, Xlib was developed to

Re: Vibrator

2007-10-01 Thread Shawn Rutledge
The idea from the Jackito sounded good to me - use the screen surface as the audio transducer, that way if you play a low-frequency sound you can feel it with your fingers. And it's much lower-power than using the vibrator. But I'm not sure how you attach a piezo to the screen; maybe the idea is

Re: Neo1973 drawings

2007-10-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 10/4/07, Ryan Lerch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone is interested, I have uploaded a few simple drawings of the neo1973 to the openclipart library… Cool. I made links on the wiki. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: Bi-weekly OpenMoko community update

2007-10-13 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 10/12/07, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're very happy with the u-blox/Atmel ATR0635 GPS Receiver, and thus have made the decision to use this chip. That sounds like good news. It's not open-source but sounds like it should be easier to interface with. However, FIC still needs

Re: Update: GPS driver for GTA01 and GSM firmware for GTA01

2007-10-13 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 10/13/07, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have received some further updates from Harald. Apparently we have resolved the legal issues with the driver for the GPS chip on GTA01, and the problem right now is that we switched from OABI to EABI. The original driver from Global

Re: Community Update

2007-10-31 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 10/31/07, Mike Montour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Delivery of the promised 'gllin' GPS binary to GTA01 owners (anything that can be made to work, OABI/EABI/chrooted/whatever) Yes. Again, it has been much, much, much too long that we have been waiting for this.

Re: Community Update

2007-10-31 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 10/31/07, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. You do realize that it is a legal issue that has been holding this up. But true, this is needed, and I'll find out what's going on. I thought the legal issue was resolved. ___ OpenMoko

Re: Community Update

2007-10-31 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 10/31/07, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first legal issue was to allow for the distribution of the driver in binary-only form. That was resolved. The next issue was technical, and resulted from the switch from OABI to EABI. That issue has a number of workarounds (wrapper,

Re: google open phone platform

2007-11-05 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 11/5/07, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was FIC's window 6-8 months ago but now when the industry stalwarts are crashing at your door it's time to close up shop, sit on the beach and think of the next coolest thing. I would not be advising FIC to give up yet. A big consortium,

Re: Community update: The 850 MHz issue

2007-11-05 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Nov 5, 2007 7:36 PM, Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_us.shtml which is the US list for GSM based operators, you will see it is universally 850 or 1900 (or both). In the case of ATT you can take a quick look at the two coverage I guess I'm in luck -

Closing apps

2007-11-19 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Nov 18, 2007 4:20 PM, Olaf Lüke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, yes you do ;-). Since the second version of the GUI you can close applications with pressing the power button shortly. If you press IMO that's a very strange, and very unintuitive way to close applications. If the user is

Re: SIM Card Copy

2007-11-26 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Nov 26, 2007 10:49 AM, Cailan Halliday [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just had an idea that I got from a couple of devices, how about a virtual SIM card? Is it possible to make an ISO of a SIM card and store it in the Neo to be, for lack of a better word, booted from? I've seen devices like

Re: Sean's impact being felt...

2007-11-28 Thread Shawn Rutledge
I was wondering if Apple negotiated something... they have an exclusive with Cingular for the current iPhone but maybe it doesn't prevent them from also selling a different phone for CDMA. And maybe they just don't like being exclusive, and wanted to have control of their own marketing/branding,

Re: GPS driver for GTA01 available

2007-11-29 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Nov 29, 2007 1:25 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to a tremendous amount of hard work by many people, we have ready a release of gllin, the GPS drives. Here is how you can get it: This is really great news! Thanks to everyone who helped to make it possible. I've already

Re: GPS driver for GTA01 available

2007-11-29 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Nov 29, 2007 5:18 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I could release that, but be aware that it doesn't work. (otherwise we would never had to release the wrapper-oabi one). If you're into low-level debugging arbitrary binaries, you could help us getting it fixed.

Near-field comms (was Re: need someone to develop this....)

2007-11-30 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Nov 30, 2007 1:34 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Bob (or Alice) hands his (or her) phone to the other, then if both phones are shaken in the same hand, the acceleration pattern might provide an extremely unique yet similar signature, not unlike exchanging an encryption key.

Re: GPS driver for GTA01 available

2007-11-30 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Nov 29, 2007 4:58 PM, Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've already tested it, and (subject to my limited ability to read raw NMEA) it works. Tonight I will probably spend some more time testing with some sort of GUI app. It does seem to stop working sometimes, after running

Re: need someone to develop this....

2007-12-03 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Dec 3, 2007 10:51 AM, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An interesting (though probably not as useful and secure) variation could be to stack the phones on top of each other and have one phone send a vibration pattern to the other. One could even exchange data that way at very very low

Re: Development env *on* the neo?

2007-12-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Dec 4, 2007 2:56 PM, Lars Hallberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But You don't want to build more than necessary. I have seen gcc, g++, make and stuff available for ipkg - but are there any dev versions of the libs available? And would it be possible to have stripped libs on the neo and install

Re: SMS is required + fix for battery drained isse (was: 2007.11 snapshot available)

2007-12-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Dec 4, 2007 5:45 PM, Bernhard Kaindl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it is enough for the US, but if you define the average European mobile phone user a part of mass, then you are wrong and yes, text text messaging (SMS) is an absolute requirement for European mobile Plenty of people use SMS

Re: Development env *on* the neo?

2007-12-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Dec 4, 2007 7:13 PM, Lars Hallberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, exactly what I was hoping for. Is all in the default repository's or did You have to hunt it down? Just do ipkg install like usual (assuming you have set things up so that the phone has 'net access, like via NAT over USB)

Re: SMS is required + fix for battery drained isse

2007-12-05 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Dec 5, 2007 12:18 AM, flexd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Reichenbacher wrote: Shawn Rutledge wrote: On Dec 4, 2007 5:45 PM, Bernhard Kaindl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it is enough for the US, but if you define the average European mobile phone user a part of mass, then you

Re: SMS is required + fix for battery drained isse (was: 2007.11 snapshot available)

2007-12-06 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Dec 5, 2007 2:25 AM, Thomas Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latest snapshot includes the first alpha version of the Messages application which allows you to send and receive SMS messages. That's good news! I can confirm that GTA02 fixes this - you do not even need a battery in the

startup scripts for GPS was Re: GPS driver for GTA01 available

2007-12-14 Thread Shawn Rutledge
I modified /home/root/gllin/gllin like this: lib/ld-linux.so.2 --library-path /home/root/gllin/lib:/home/root/gllin/usr/lib /home/root/gllin/gllin.real -periodic 1 echo $! /var/run/gllin.pid then it's possible to use start-stop-daemon to stop it. Could this change be applied to the ipkg?

Re: What to use while waiting of v2?

2007-12-17 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Dec 17, 2007 1:09 AM, Ben Burdette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about a Palm III? I just looked on ebay and saw one for 5$. They are dead reliable and sync issues should be no problem on mac or linux. If you just need something to get by with until moko comes out, you could do worse. If

Re: Case Schematics

2007-12-31 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Dec 31, 2007 1:02 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have been discussing this internally, and so far I have met no objection to the principle of releasing this information. There is a That's good news. question of what form it should take, and of course there is always the

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-10 Thread Shawn Rutledge
Well what's the best uptime on battery that has been seen so far, with unmodified phones and with an existing software image? I see less than 20 minutes when I'm trying to just use it as a GPS (logging track points). GSM talk time ought to even be longer than that, but this is without being

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-10 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Jan 10, 2008 2:40 PM, Tim Niemeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with actual battery you need to minimize the power consumption to 10mA for 5h lifetime! It's supposed to be a 1200mAH battery, so 1200/5 is 240mA, to get a 5 hour lifetime, right? When i was GPS logging for OSM (Navit with map

Re: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

2008-01-11 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Jan 11, 2008 2:17 PM, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The comments are.. not so happy. :/ Yeah it didn't make a good impression to show the boot messages, and a buggy crashing version of the UI. It really doesn't make sense, in that the rest of us are getting better results with the

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-11 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Jan 10, 2008 2:57 PM, Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. I wonder if the battery has deteriorated somehow (from the phone running and being plugged in to USB for days or weeks at a time, and being overcharged? but the power management chip should not overcharge it, right

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-12 Thread Shawn Rutledge
=199 and a video of the process here: http://www.youtube.com/v/HzqzlA8NE2Y but at the moment it's still being processed by YouTube. It is 20 megs and 4.5 minutes, and this is my first time using YouTube so we'll see how long that takes. On Jan 11, 2008 10:47 PM, Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Jan 14, 2008 11:14 AM, Jeremiah Flerchinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, you did say they were going to try and make CAD files available. I'm happy to hear further confirmation back so soon. Hopefully it won't take too much longer to get the files. DXF files should also be fine. I know

Re: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-14 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Jan 14, 2008 12:52 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I personally look forward to non-traditional materials. I have an obsession with concrete, which I'm trying to figure out how to apply in this situation. A concrete phone? You can't make it anywhere near as thin as plastic can

Re: R: CAD files for the case of the Neo will be made available

2008-01-18 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Jan 18, 2008 2:47 AM, Michele Manzato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having used it for some time, my impression is that Blender is a 3d modeler which is very much focussed on rendering, while other aspects of 3d design are weak (e.g. keeping control over measurement - no quotation lines). The

Re: OpenMoko, statifier Ermin

2008-01-24 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Jan 24, 2008 4:50 AM, Valery Reznic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently ermine able to pack OABI little endian ARM executables. After packaging those executables can be copied to the EABI (little endian) system and run here. No dependencies. Can it be used to fix gllin then?

Re: OpenMoko, statifier Ermi

2008-01-25 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Jan 24, 2008 10:19 PM, Valery Reznic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can it be used to fix gllin then? Yes. I packed gllin on my OABI system and Alessando tested it on his EABI. Does it still need some extra libs that are not included with the OM images, or were the extra libs in the gllin

Re: Pocket Supercomputing?

2008-01-31 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Jan 31, 2008 7:54 AM, Jeffrey Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://it.slashdot.org/it/08/01/31/130245.shtml Basically, using a mobile phone as a thin client. This would be great if one could enter a specific Basically that project appears to be about image recognition, for non-Asians

Re: Power Management on Neo1973

2008-01-31 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Jan 31, 2008 2:18 PM, Tore Dalaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WARNING: Developers only! Please note that the OpenMoko products are not meant for the end user and explicitly marked as Developer preview at this time. Read this wiki article to find more technical details of what you can and

Re: Pocket Supercomputing?

2008-02-03 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Jan 31, 2008 3:31 PM, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *) So it seems you're talking about X. Don't you? (Well terse is relative) something like X is rather low-level. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Feb 4, 2008 2:35 AM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote tangoGPS, a small but fast gps and mapping software for Openmoko/Neo. It uses openstreetmap.org maps, downloading them on demand and caching them. You can drag the map, zoom in and out and see your current position and

Re: More about the GTA02

2008-02-06 Thread Shawn Rutledge
1700 would be hard to believe. It's too small. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-07 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Feb 7, 2008 1:00 PM, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I want is for a our company's patents to be freely available, for anyone, but for defensive purposes only. This sounds like a great idea. I think what you mean is that if a competitor sues OpenMoko for allegedly infringing

Re: Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-07 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Feb 7, 2008 3:35 PM, Steven Milburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a first step, get anything you think is patent worthy documented and dated. In the US, a common practice is to write up your concept and mail it to yourself in a sealed envelope. You don't open the envelope until you Or get

Re: Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-07 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Feb 7, 2008 4:45 PM, Arthur Britto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What prevents you from mailing yourself an unsealed envelope? Why would you want to do that? The point is to get a reliable date stamp associated with the material inside the envelope. And as the other link pointed out, it doesn't

Re: Patents and OpenMoko

2008-02-11 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Feb 11, 2008 12:20 PM, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From what I know especially in the US patent system you are *forced* to actively defend your patent, i.e. if you get to know that someone uses your patent and is not paying you roayalties (or you get an alternative commercial

Re: Act as HIDD and more

2008-02-18 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Feb 18, 2008 10:31 AM, Christopher Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want my Neo to act as HIDD, I *think* the command is hidd --server but i get an error: Address in use, any ideas. I haven't tried it on the phone yet, but last night I bought the Apple BT keyboard and got it working for my

Re: Force shutdown

2008-02-20 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your phone is not entirely dead, holding power vor 10! sec would shut off the device. (not tactile feedback. You don't knwo whrn it shut down (10 factorial) seconds is exactly 42 days, heh heh. (Google calculator was

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Heikki Sørum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from Matilda in Canned Meat Marketing. Matilda has created an software system that automates calling and displays a unknown caller ID, then ... 3rd party ruggedized Moko Case!) he tags the calling ID with Deceptive

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Joseph Booker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cell phones can be placed on the do-not-call list? It's already illegal for telemarketers to call you on one (since you would be paying for unsolicited advertising). Well if they are calling, you still need your own

Re: FAX2PDF with OpenMoko?

2008-02-26 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:53 AM, kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seem to recall having seen a scanner that does the much-more-useful other direction: scan a document and it sends it in (some format I don't remember) as an email. heh, i would hazard a guess that it was as

Re: bye bye wifi hello gifi

2008-02-27 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:17 AM, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We don't have any immediate plans. Truly mobile WiMax is still some time away. Sprint Xohm is still supposed to launch soon, if it doesn't get postponed any more.

Re: Populated IrDA?

2008-02-28 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Alan Ide [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if it is or is not populated / usable?? I really want to be able to use my FreeRunner as my universal remote using LIRC. Thank you. IrDA and CIR (consumer IR) are usually not the same thing. If you start looking for the actual

Re: Idea of a voice mail application

2008-02-29 Thread Shawn Rutledge
I was using vgetty for land-line voicemail a few years ago, and even wrote some PHP to present the messages, and if you select one it would send back an .au file, which the Audrey (3Com Ergo web appliance) could play inside its web browser. So when the iPhone came out, I thought visual voicemail

Re: GTA02 Battery Capacity (Was: Re: More about the GTA02)

2008-02-29 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Uncle Kridley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: joerg wrote: - charge from any host (incl simplistic chargers): 100mA (6-12h) - charge from intelligent host: 500mA (1-2h) - charge from quickcharger with magic R: 1500mA (1h) Ahh, ok, that makes a lot more sense.

Re: Multi-touch: Many questions to one desire....

2008-03-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ubiquitous zooming and rotating examples are not convincing me at all. They seem pretty cool to me. So... where are those usecases that apply to a phone? How do you right-click on a touchscreen? The old way

Re: iPhone Acquired!

2008-03-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Kyle Bassett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still debating lending the phone out to those who want to play with it, depending on the interest of the community, we'll see where it goes. Sounds like Mickey needs to play with it so he can see what all the fuss is

Re: Multi-touch: Many questions to one desire....

2008-03-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also using a touch-only screen they don't loose their usability: the resize, mostly, could be done simply with a scroll, while the rotation This is kindof like saying what do you need a mouse for, your keyboard

Re: Open source / Open Standard CAD development?

2008-03-05 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Mats Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Does there exist any usable open source CAD systems? (Is perhaps Open CASCAE a viable semi-open http://www.opencascade.org/ option?) The previous suggestions that IMO had some relevance were Blender and BRLCAD. I hadn't

Re: Open source / Open Standard CAD development?

2008-03-05 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Mats Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am seeing the OpenMoko project as the first serious project to develop hardware in bazaar-style fashion. A personal dream would like to build a OpenCar in bazaar-style fashion in the future. Other open car projects

Re: Openmoko strives for openness

2008-03-19 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 9:17 AM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a constant trend of moving these discussions from internal lists to public lists. Many Openmoko employees do this, but I'd particularly like to publicly thank Wolfgang Spraul for championing this and for

Re: Openmoko strives for openness (smedia glamo)

2008-04-03 Thread Shawn Rutledge
Could also put an FPGA between the processor and the display, and maybe some developers will figure out how to accelerate the most frequently used drawing functions. Just an idea... I know it's a long shot and probably takes too much power too... but for a while there was an open PCI video card

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-13 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 9:44 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to add some other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers. If the phone can be charged with a Motorola charger, I'm personally fine with saving some

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