Re: Crowdfunding an Ubuntu smartphone
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller писал 2013-08-24 17:31: For me GTA04 is not usable as daily phone. It's now collecting dust in shelf. Why? 1/ poor power management 2/ bugged reenumerating modem GTA04 is good enough only in some situations. E.g. ok if i carry it to work where i can anytime charge it. When i am on bike 150km from home i must have reliable phone in case that the bike breaks up or in case that i need map. I took GTA04 with 2 batteries and N900 on my bike trip this summer. I used N900 as a phone with SIM card. GTA04 was switched off - i just used it for GPS. But after 4 hours one battery was empty and second battery was 50% empty during one night in suspend. On the other hand N900 was working whole 4 days. I used it for calls, for wifi in camps and in the end even for GPS. That is something I still don't understand. From a power budget the modem is specified to have 3-10 mA in suspend while registered to a base station. I have even verified this with an ampere-meter. And there is only one potential deviation - if there is some attenuation (e.g. wall) there may be a situation where the modem receives the base station well and tries to answer/register. But since the base station does not receive it at all, it tries with high power. In this case the modem current increases to 50-100 mA. BTW: this is the same with almost all mobile devices. So it must be something in the OMAP system and that is IMHO the same as the N900 has... So pure kernel code. BTW: this would not change by redesigning the GTA04 into a spare N900 case... At that time, as the main developments are in the "care" of the common / production / communication problems, the community should try to implement the microkernel (eg arm port gnu / hurd) on the existing architecture GTA02/04, to see the resources consumption of core servers (to give chance new mobile platform based on open hardware stack). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Interview of Jussi Hurmola, Jolla Mobile’s managing director - with a comment on Open Moko
Jolla news: At the core of Jolla is Sailfish, a mobile-optimized OS that has the flexibility of a unique, open platform. http://jolla.com/ https://join.jolla.com/en Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller писал 2012-07-25 19:21: http://www.ossimantylahti.com/2012/07/interview-of-jussi-hurmola-jolla-mobiles-managing-director/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fairphone??
let's wait for first sales, if they are urodelo писал 2013-05-15 20:30: yep; i just wonder how can they keep the cost so low with 1500 preordes and "fair working conditions, salary etc"... who really checks the working conditions in congo or wherever they produce it? On Wed, 15 May 2013 17:38:05 +0200, Patryk Benderz wrote: [cut] what do you think? AFAIR It was already posted and discussed here. It is cheaper than GTA04 - they must have invested money to order bigger batch of phones. Specifications looks nice. I still have my working phone, so will not order it. And even if I was looking for some phone, sadly I can't afford it :(. Even my company does not pay for smart phones more than 150-200 euro. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another open hardware mod experiment: RFID-tag/Reader board for the Freerunner, Nanonote (?) and Beagleboard
Hi, I would like to buy The Freerunner RFID but boards not on sale. Does anyone have an extra? http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=RFID%20Board Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller писал 2011-04-11 11:23: Dear all, besides the GTA04 and the Freerunner Navigation Board, we have been working behind the scenes on a new hardware mod, originally for the Openmoko Freerunner. It is a RFID Antenna, RFID Tag (M24LR64) and a RFID Reader (TRF7960) board. For 13 MHz (ISO14443, ISO15693). The project is still in its beginnings, but the hardware is designed and first samples have been built and appear to work (at least as far as we could test them). And, a first U-Boot based driver running on a BeagleBoard has shown that the RFID reader chip responds and sends interrupts. The tag chip also works and has been tested with an external USB based reader stick. The boards have solder points so that it should be possible to interface to different SoC and boards, e.g. BeagleBoard, Nanonote, OpenPandora... The minimum wiring is that it nedds 3.3V power, 3 SPI wires and a INT line to a GPIO. If power should be controlled or the SoC has 1.8V I/O, more wires are needed. For documentation and details I have uploaded some material to this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Freerunner_RFID_Board Schematics and board layout are available in EAGLE format. Now, what can you do with it? I don't know but would be happy to hear about ideas... We have the idea to sell these complete boards at 79 EUR (which is approx. half the price of a TI eval board), if you are interested in experimenting with this technology. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ubuntu / Firefox OS for Openmoko?
"Phoenix's Thirteen" (c) Yury Sakarinen писал 2013-01-15 16:18: acceptable GTA04 price poll results: up to 300 euro - 22% up to 400 euro - 48% up to 500 euro - 15% up to 600 euro - 15% Total votes: 27 It would be nice to find a sponsor (fosdem2013 conference), which will be able to to compensate GTA04 price difference with the desired ~400 euros (for whom 13 voted)..!? Yury Sakarinen писал 2013-01-12 12:13: Let's count GTA04 interest and preferences: http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=50f115aae4b04de5024b172e Bob Ham писал 2013-01-12 01:23: On Fri, 2013-01-11 at 20:43 +0100, Christoph Pulster wrote: The hardware GTA04 is based on one person (Nikolaus), the software QtMoko is based on one person (Radek). My daily cudos for both of them. But I am afraid we really need a broader basis of manpower. I think it's unfair to mention only Nikolaus and Radek. There are many people working to push the GTA04 forward: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=cornucopia.git;a=history;f=fsodeviced/conf/GTA04;hb=HEAD http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=meta-smartphone.git;a=history;f=meta-openmoko/conf/machine/om-gta04.conf;hb=HEAD https://github.com/neilbrown/linux/commits/gta04/mainline/arch/arm/mach-omap2/board-omap3gta04.c I don't think "we" necessarily "need" any more manpower. To say that is to say: I want people to do things for me. Indeed, we all want 1000 programmers to start working on FSO and QtMoko so that our phones become sweet bastions of freedom and coolness. Alas, there is only us. It is worth remembering that a factor in attracting programmers is the ratio between (1) how much effort we spend complaining about how few programmers the are and trying to attract more, and (2) how much effort we spend creating useful systems with a small number of programmers. Paradoxically, a focus on the latter is much more likely to attract new contributors. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ubuntu / Firefox OS for Openmoko?
acceptable GTA04 price poll results: up to 300 euro - 22% up to 400 euro - 48% up to 500 euro - 15% up to 600 euro - 15% Total votes: 27 It would be nice to find a sponsor (fosdem2013 conference), which will be able to to compensate GTA04 price difference with the desired ~400 euros (for whom 13 voted)..!? Yury Sakarinen писал 2013-01-12 12:13: Let's count GTA04 interest and preferences: http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=50f115aae4b04de5024b172e Bob Ham писал 2013-01-12 01:23: On Fri, 2013-01-11 at 20:43 +0100, Christoph Pulster wrote: The hardware GTA04 is based on one person (Nikolaus), the software QtMoko is based on one person (Radek). My daily cudos for both of them. But I am afraid we really need a broader basis of manpower. I think it's unfair to mention only Nikolaus and Radek. There are many people working to push the GTA04 forward: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=cornucopia.git;a=history;f=fsodeviced/conf/GTA04;hb=HEAD http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=meta-smartphone.git;a=history;f=meta-openmoko/conf/machine/om-gta04.conf;hb=HEAD https://github.com/neilbrown/linux/commits/gta04/mainline/arch/arm/mach-omap2/board-omap3gta04.c I don't think "we" necessarily "need" any more manpower. To say that is to say: I want people to do things for me. Indeed, we all want 1000 programmers to start working on FSO and QtMoko so that our phones become sweet bastions of freedom and coolness. Alas, there is only us. It is worth remembering that a factor in attracting programmers is the ratio between (1) how much effort we spend complaining about how few programmers the are and trying to attract more, and (2) how much effort we spend creating useful systems with a small number of programmers. Paradoxically, a focus on the latter is much more likely to attract new contributors. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Community] OpenPhoenux Logo contest - Phase 2 (voting)
Voted for Proposition 2. Twice ) Very similar to the Debian. Thamos писал 2013-01-15 14:58: Hi all, I voted for 5, 7, 8 and 10. I liked nearly all logos, so i did choose by exclusion. 1 and 3 where nice eye-catchers, but i didn't find much relation to the project. Second may be a nice backround picture, but i think it's not scaleable at all. Number for droped out because of scalability, too. The sixth i liked, but i find it too nerdlike, reminds me somehow of startrek... Number 9 dropped out because i don't see a direct connection with the tux. This project is about free hardware, not software (despite the fact that we need software, too...) Proposal 11 i can't connect to the project well, too. Number five i choose because of its eye-catcher abilities. For scaling small one may have to use the phoenix alone, without the device and the whirls underneath. Number 7 i liked because auf it's simplicity. But i don't know, if i have seen something like that already somewhere. I think proposal 8 does connect at best with our devices. Maybe the broken chain should be symbolised a little bit more clear. The 11th i chose because it connects well to the fact that its about a hardware project, the symbol alone is nice to use at small scales and i haven't seen much symbols like that already (high recognizability) so far, my 2 cents... Thamos Am 14.01.2013 17:53, schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Hi all, we are currently running a logo contest for the new OpenPhoenux umbrella project that intends to cover all old and new openmoko activities. We have received 11 proposals (and sometimes variants). You can now participate by judging the proposals. Please think about: • does it connect to the remains of the original Openmoko project ("Phoenix from the ashes")? • is it eye-catching, easily remembered, unique? • does it show some orientation towards future? • does it carry a positive, inpiring, flying, pushing attitude? • does it tell about "freedom & openness"? • do you feel that it represents "your" OpenPhoenux/OpenMoko community? • can it be recognized that it has something to do with wireless, portable devices (tablet, smartphone, gadgets etc.)? • does it look equally good in different sizes? Now please see yourself and submit your votes (up to 4 favourites): http://www.openphoenux.org/logo/ Please vote until Tuesday evening (15th Jan 2013, GMT). You may also discuss pros and cons as a followup to this mail. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ubuntu / Firefox OS for Openmoko?
Let's count GTA04 interest and preferences: http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=50f115aae4b04de5024b172e Bob Ham писал 2013-01-12 01:23: On Fri, 2013-01-11 at 20:43 +0100, Christoph Pulster wrote: The hardware GTA04 is based on one person (Nikolaus), the software QtMoko is based on one person (Radek). My daily cudos for both of them. But I am afraid we really need a broader basis of manpower. I think it's unfair to mention only Nikolaus and Radek. There are many people working to push the GTA04 forward: http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=cornucopia.git;a=history;f=fsodeviced/conf/GTA04;hb=HEAD http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=meta-smartphone.git;a=history;f=meta-openmoko/conf/machine/om-gta04.conf;hb=HEAD https://github.com/neilbrown/linux/commits/gta04/mainline/arch/arm/mach-omap2/board-omap3gta04.c I don't think "we" necessarily "need" any more manpower. To say that is to say: I want people to do things for me. Indeed, we all want 1000 programmers to start working on FSO and QtMoko so that our phones become sweet bastions of freedom and coolness. Alas, there is only us. It is worth remembering that a factor in attracting programmers is the ratio between (1) how much effort we spend complaining about how few programmers the are and trying to attract more, and (2) how much effort we spend creating useful systems with a small number of programmers. Paradoxically, a focus on the latter is much more likely to attract new contributors. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ubuntu / Firefox OS for Openmoko
Dear Diary. For me gta04 expensive. I'm willing to buy it for the same price I bought my freerunner 5 years ago in Idasystems. It is about 385 euros plus delivery. Note: for this price, I buy only the motherboard without a case and screen. If it were possible to sell all produced for this moment GTA04 to ~15 gta02 owners who downloaded images (http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/GTA02/) at this price, then perhaps there would be a push to develop and more talks about gta04. Also I think that near 50 people stayed on older distributions openmoko (or shr). And I think that is all active community now. robin писал 2013-01-11 22:04: The biggest problem I see with the GTA04 is the very limited amount of active developers and the reliability of the distri- butions. I don't think it can handle much more losses on the developer side or it would simply die (as Christoph stated currently there is only one preorder for a GTA05...). I think it is a good decision of the developers to keep supporting the GTA02s as much as they can, as these are the closest users to go for a GTA04. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] MokoFaen theme v2
Main screen = Main menu Yury Sakarinen писал 2013-01-11 07:57: We have a lot of screens in QtMoko, exactly which icons do you refer to? Finxy theme, all icons from Main screen. Icons from Settings, Apps, Mail.. they haven't background and bigger. I took a look to old screenshots, in some screens indeed there are differences in icons size, but they are really few, e.g. in the applications menu now we have 9 icons but before there were 8. For matters like this, we cannot modify everything through the theme config files. For example, the dialer screen is almost completely customizable through the theme files, but the application menu is not. For the latter, you have to look in qtmoko UI code. So, if you want larger icons in some screen, maybe it is not sufficient nor to change the icons nor to make a new theme. Other developers I'm sure can correct me if I'm wrong and clarify this issue. Thanx, I'll see what can I hack this weekend. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] MokoFaen theme v2
We have a lot of screens in QtMoko, exactly which icons do you refer to? Finxy theme, all icons from Main screen. Icons from Settings, Apps, Mail.. they haven't background and bigger. I took a look to old screenshots, in some screens indeed there are differences in icons size, but they are really few, e.g. in the applications menu now we have 9 icons but before there were 8. For matters like this, we cannot modify everything through the theme config files. For example, the dialer screen is almost completely customizable through the theme files, but the application menu is not. For the latter, you have to look in qtmoko UI code. So, if you want larger icons in some screen, maybe it is not sufficient nor to change the icons nor to make a new theme. Other developers I'm sure can correct me if I'm wrong and clarify this issue. Thanx, I'll see what can I hack this weekend. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] MokoFaen theme v2
Hi, list (and Joif if u still here coz I remember u gonna leave FR dev for another phone). Is it possible to use "old-school style" (Faengo, Finxy? don't remember now, sorry) icons instead Faience in MokoFaen theme v2? Old icons were large and very clear and comfortable. Faience icons seems smaller compared to iPhone and other smart phones icons. And given the fact that the screen we have less.. So, need I make (hack) a new theme, or may simply overwrite icons? Sure, i want stay with small upper menu and other goodies. francesco.dev...@mailoo.org писал 2012-07-01 14:34: Updates: - new icons based on the Faience icon theme [3], but for now I updated just a couple of them; ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
another frerunner-alike case
WTH, painfully similar to FR -->> http://www.playmg.com/buy-now ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko vibro engine
P.S. phone is really hard-to-damage, it was fallen so many times and its a first real issue. I'm surprised GTA02's assemble quality. I bought it in 2008. And it still works like a personal PDA (debian+gprs). Many thanks to the developers. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko vibro engine
Hi, Alex http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner_Parts Vibrator: MOTOR P0408B-13-P2H SMD-2P T.A&M.I. http://www.asusparts.eu/product_info.php?cPath=196359&products_id=10740 Vibrator Ta&Mi P0408B-13-P2H Alex Samorukov писал 2012-09-25 16:54: Hi, After fall vibra engine in my GTA02 is not working anymore. Anyone knows part number and store in EU (in the worst case - in US) to find a replacement? I tried my old broken nokia, but it soldered in + very different size :( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta02-owner] - fbreader (v39 qtmoko)
Unfortunately there is no context menu in full-screen mode. That is problem. Radek Polak писал 11.05.2012 14:38: > On Friday, May 11, 2012 08:59:39 AM Yury Sakarinen wrote: > >> Hello, Radek and list. > >> > >> Regarding fbreader - does anyone know a way how to exit full screen > >> mode in v39 qtmoko? > > IIRC there might be empty entry in context menu that does it, but i am not sure (maybe it quits the whole app). > > Regards > > Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Gta02-owner] - fbreader (v39 qtmoko)
Hello, Radek and list. Regarding fbreader - does anyone know a way how to exit full screen mode in v39 qtmoko? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [dfu-util] who use it for flashing FR?
Hi, Patryk. You better use the poll for this purpose. I still use dfu-util for flashing FR in my debian and ubuntu laptop. Thank you for new release. Patryk Benderz писал 07.05.2012 16:58: Hi all, regarding recent discussion on de...@lists.openmoko.org [1] I am asking, how many of you are still using dfu-util for flashing your FR's internal memory? I also would like to inform you about new dfu-util release.[2] [1] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2012-May/007245.html [2] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2012-April/007243.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to bring forward the community?
Same here. No success with http://www.dealextreme.com/p/bluetooth-v2-0-wireless-keyboard-with-protective-case-for-apple-ipad-black-55976 on qtmoko. Debian not tested yet.. Giacomo 'giotti' Mariani писал 29.02.2012 14:45: [cut] > does anyone know similar keyboards with real QWERTY layout ? ...or this one [1]. Generally google returns a lot of information on this topic. [1] http://www.uberreview.com/2010/05/tiny-bluetooth-qwerty-keyboard-for-smartphones.htm I own a similar one (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Pocket-Bluetooth-Keyboard-PC-PDA-Phone-/260694344470) but I've never been able to use it on my freerunner. I get it paired (and some traffic is visible hcidump on SHR) but it never worked as input device. Did you have any (successful) experience? Regards, Giacomo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v39 for Freerunner
Thank you. I will take it for presentation at LVEE winter 2012. Radek Polak писал 07.02.2012 19:25: Hi, i have uploaded QtMoko v39 which should fix problems with v38, that is: * alsa states are now in correct place and sound should work now again * the kernel package should be now again installable I have quickly tested it in NAND and it looked ok to me. I hope there will be no problems this time. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: about the cases
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller писал 13.12.2011 09:42: I meant the standart (default freerunner GTA02) covers.. Look, they're pretty thick There are 2 covers for gta02 made of plastic and are too thick (~ 2.5 mm). Do you have some photos to share? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: about the cases
Hi, list. There are 2 covers for gta02 made of plastic and are too thick (~ 2.5 mm). If it were possible to make them out of aluminum (0.5-1mm), we would have a slim and elegant case for our phone.. No other changes needed.. Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller писал 12.12.2011 12:04: Am 12.12.2011 um 09:51 schrieb Patryk Benderz: Dnia 2011-12-11, nie o godzinie 23:36 +0100, Fernando Martins pisze: Hi, Out of curiosity would it be possible to recover the original moulds used to produce the cases? Anybody knows what happened to them? Good question, however moulds are designed to produce certain amount of cases. Looking at how much was made, moulds can be at end of their lives. AFAIK they have been made in 2006 or 2007 for the Neo1973 (and have been slightly modified for the GTA02). So I think they have been made within FIC and since FIC was finally the manufacturing subcontractor of Openmoko, Inc. I think they could be somewhere within FIC. Or have been scrapped there after some years of not being used. Anyways, they aren't of big help since the components inserted into the case (earpiece, vibracall motor, speaker) are no longer produced or available. So we have to go the painful way of designing our own cases. But the good side is that we can improve on the outer shape and look&feel. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko v35 & FBreader
I want FBReader without QX too (and Navit is second on my list). It should be just matter of writing qbuild project files, but i am currently working on something else and dont want to interrupt it... Radek Yeah.. i see,, FYI: I found FBreader that works fantastically, without any problems with taps by finger. http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=81 Just remove fbreader and install modified version with dpkg: fbreaderm_0.10.7dfsg-2_armel.deb Might be worth to add it to qt-appl repository? There are also several useful programs for debian. I do not know who this man, but he did a good job. http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to run navit in qtmoko
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 20:14:11 +0200, Frank wrote: Am 15.06.2011 19:52, schrieb Frank: Am 15.06.2011 18:26, schrieb Yury Sakarinen: > > Hi, you have to use this guide to install navit from navit-qtm.zip (not > from repo): > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QtMoko#Navit_Installation ... I think, I'll try the WIKI-Version again Success! From WIKI http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QtMoko#Navit_Installation I only had to repeat # cd / # unzip /media/card/download/navit-qtm.zip (I didn't remove it) and than configure QX's favorites again. I don't see any map, but navits's gui. Step by step now u need to rename & place your german map to /media/card/MapsNavit/osm_benelux.bin then try with "name should make sense" steps.. but better stop this point and give up others steps ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to run navit in qtmoko
Hi, you have to use this guide to install navit from navit-qtm.zip (not from repo): http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QtMoko#Navit_Installation On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 18:12:09 +0200, Guilhem Bonnefille wrote: Oups... wrong solution. A bigest problem: Qtopia: navit:plugin_load:can't load '/usr/lib/navit/gui/libgui_internal.so', Error '/usr/lib/navit/gui/libgui_internal.so: undefined symbol: navit_add_bookmark' Check you have installed navit_gui_internal (or something like that). 2011/6/15 Guilhem Bonnefille : I think you have to comment the mapset using /usr/share/navit/maps/*.xml I'm thinking about a Debian bug report to clean the configuration packaged. 2011/6/15 Frank : Hallo, can anybody tell me about the 'secret' to run navit on my neo? I use qtmoko (v35). When I 'Launch' navit from QX then for a few seconds I see "press AUX to leave". Then it falls back to QX-Gui. At second attempt I see only the linux-console for a few seconds. There is some output in '/var/log/user.log' you see below but I can't decide which of this problems is killig navit. In /home/root/.navit/navit.xml I have configured a OSM-Map: All other Mapsets are set to enabled="no". user.log: gpsd[1059]: gpsd: can't bind to IPv4 port gpsd, Address already in use gpsd[1059]: gpsd: maybe gpsd is already running! gpsd[1059]: gpsd: can't bind to IPv6 port gpsd, Address already in use gpsd[1059]: gpsd: maybe gpsd is already running! Qtopia: (II) verbosity set to 5 Qtopia: Using GLAMO 3362 card Qtopia: (II) Screen: 16/16 depth/bpp Qtopia: (II) vram size:8323072, onscreen vram size:614400, offscreen vram size:7708672 Qtopia: (II) initialising offscreen pixmaps Qtopia: error opening security policy file /usr/lib/xserver/SecurityPolicy Qtopia: Extended Input Devices not yet supported. Impelement it at line 637 in ../../../../hw/kdrive/src/kinput.c Qtopia: Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing from list! Qtopia: Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, removing from list! Qtopia: Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, removing from list! Qtopia: Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, removing from list! Qtopia: Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, removing from list! Qtopia: Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, removing from list! Qtopia: Could not init font path element /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, removing from list! Qtopia: Qtopia: (process:1064): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library. Qtopia: ^IUsing the fallback 'C' locale. Qtopia: Qtopia: (:1064): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library Qtopia: navit:plugin_load:can't load '/usr/lib/navit/gui/libgui_internal.so', Error '/usr/lib/navit/gui/libgui_internal.so: undefined symbol: navit_add_bookmark' Qtopia: navit:plugin_load:can't load '/usr/lib/navit/osd/libosd_core.so', already loaded Qtopia: vehicle_gpsd:vehicle_gpsd_try_open:Trying to connect to localhost:default Qtopia: netlib_connectsock() returns socket on fd 21 Qtopia: vehicle_gpsd:vehicle_gpsd_try_open:Connected to gpsd fd=21 evwatch=0xb2710 Qtopia: navit:xinclude:Unable to include /usr/share/navit/maps/*.xml Qtopia: navit:navit_init:no gui Qtopia: sh: gdb: not found Qtopia: FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing. -- Frank ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Guilhem BONNEFILLE -=- JID: gu...@im.apinc.org MSN: guilhem_bonnefi...@hotmail.com -=- mailto:guilhem.bonnefi...@gmail.com -=- http://nathguil.free.fr/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko v35 & FBreader
You can not scroll pages, especially when the tap enabled. This functionality is not provided. Also you can disable the text selection in the settings. To avoid an issue of particularly slow to tap pages, you need to install version 0.12.10, but it is not in the repository: http://www.fbreader.org/desktop/#debian (now only for i386 and amd64 platforms) In version 0.10.7 tap normally works only when you press screen by stylus. FBreader contains curve algorithm for determining gestures. to list: please advise if anyone knows other convenient bookreaders (may be without using QX if possible). On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 14:16:12 +0200, Francesco De Vita wrote: Thanks! Next/previous page works, but I'm still unable to scroll, if I press and hold somewhere the resultant action is a text selection. I tried also with up than 100ms but nothing... Joif ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtMoko] qtmoko.sourceforge.net bug
another bug report for applications page http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/apps/qtmoko-keyboard-russian-abc.html (Russian layout for finger keyboard) when u click on link or from FR More apps menu (arora), there is no appropriate page: An error has been encountered in accessing this page. 1. Server: qtmoko.sourceforge.net 2. URL path: /apps/qtmoko-keyboard-russian-abc_1-1_all.deb 3. Error notes: NONE 4. Error type: 404 5. Request method: GET 6. Request query string: NONE 7. Time: 2011-03-17 18:32:29 UTC (1300386749) Reporting this problem: The problem you have encountered is with a project web site hosted by SourceForge.net. This issue should be reported to the SourceForge.net-hosted project (not to SourceForge.net). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko v35 & FBreader
Thanks Radek. Now my FR used for 100 pct without the tedious procedure of running through qx xterm %) If you copy-paste this to FR shell you'll be able to use "Favourites" and there will be new icon for "E-book reader QX" which will launch FBReader correctly: cat > /usr/share/applications/FBReaderQX.desktop <<__END__ [Desktop Entry] Name=E-book reader QX GenericName=E-book reader Comment=E-book reader TryExec=fbreader.sh Exec=fbreader.sh %F StartupNotify=true Terminal=false Type=Application Icon=FBReader.png Categories=Office;Viewer;Literature; __END__ cat > /usr/bin/fbreader.sh <<__END__ #!/bin/sh export LD_LIBRARY_PATH= FBReader __END__ chmod +x /usr/bin/fbreader.sh Hope this helped Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko v35 & FBreader
Thanks, Radek! It works, but a bit uncomfortable. I hope this issue will be fixed in future releases. I don't like to have a lot of gadgets, and have no time to mess around with the filling of the contents of e-books, which still have to carry around.. there is a problem to run fbreader on qtmoko v35, need help from someone who uses fbreader on qtmoko v35. You need to run it from QX. However there is problem that FBReader tries to use QtMoko's embedded QT instead of system QT. To start it correctly you need to do something like this (e.g. from QX xterm): export LD_LIBRARY_PATH= fbreader Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qtmoko v35 & FBreader
Hi, list there is a problem to run fbreader on qtmoko v35, need help from someone who uses fbreader on qtmoko v35. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v35
Hi, Radek. when select deep sleep in FR gui interface it doesnt change /opt/qtmoko/etc/default/Trolltech/Modem.conf modem.conf settings, also after reboot FR so u need to put [DeepSleep] Active=yes manually then it will works On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 16:34:38 +0200, Radek Polak wrote: On Friday 08 April 2011 16:15:43 giacomo 'giotti' mariani wrote: Hi Radeck, thank you very much for your great work! Anyway I have a problems: the battery life looks quite shorter than previous releases, at least shorter than v28 and v31. It's so for me only? Do you have deep sleep enabled? According to current_now in NeoControl battery should be ok. You should have ~12mA. I tested only 2.6.37 kernel which was more then 5 days on one charge. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community