Re: Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 21:30, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Not anymore > Do you use FR as your primary PDA? No > What distribution you run most of the time? Android > If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change > over to, and why? HTC Magic (Android) because it works and brings some freedom anyway ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qi - why only 3 partitions on SD card?
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 22:00, Paul Fertser wrote: > Qi is really simple and (almost) clean, and it can boot kernels. I > don't understand why you think one should want to maintain huge and > complex u-boot instead of small simple Qi. It boots kernels -> good > enough. KISS > Personally I do not want to keep huge u-boot. But I think Torfinn talking about fixing u-boot comes just from some previous posts where people just said something like (sorry for reformulating with my understanding) "if QI is not ok for you just use U-Boot, it can multiboot, so why do you complain". But then it would imply that U-Boot has to be maintained. Torfinn just let the choice open for devs since he said he would (could) not do it himself. > >> Now, will any developer step up and fix Qi (or U-boot) so that it >> will be usable for users? > > If you're ok with initramfs solution (and i haven't yet seen a single > point why it's not ok) then it seems it's not a matter of fixing Qi, > rather a matter of implementing an initramfs menu... I completely agree with that, and really would like such a solution. I thought it would have come sooner (people did talk about trying to make a little multi-boot quite a while ago !). And I do agree with Torfinn. I do need to be able to access different partitions. But I really tried hard and different timings for clicking Aux, but at the very best I can choose the good partition only once over 10 trials. And when using u-boot, I did have 5 partitions where I could install and test different configurations/distros. I do not anymore, but do not either play as much with my freerunner. It is not as simple as "And in fact if anybody of those talking about bootmenu, multiboot and such really needed it he would have done it himself long time ago". I am not sure I would have been able to do this quickly and correctly enough. (and once again some said they were looking at this, and they are more competent than me). Also there are a lot of other things needing work. If everyone had to do everything himself we would no go really far. Granted I might feel a little bad saying that since I did not code anything for the freerunner, but hence the "FreeRunner will remain a gadget for developers only" ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] Forcing fast-charge
2009/5/7 Joerg Reisenweber > A > So you think the STANDARD kernel should care about this rather exotic case > which isn't specified properly (how long would this charger see the "1A > sometimes"?) and needs massive care from userland anyway? I mean, there's > some reason PCF50633 is built this way, huh? We got enough problems caring > about real hw-glitches in this chip. I don't think it's recommendable to > tweak it even further far beyond what's normal usecase. All I want from kernel is allowing me to set whatever values I need for both usb_curlim and chg_curlim. (also when charging from an external battery pack it is very usefull too not to pump all its juice just to fill internal battery -> chg_curlim set to very low) > > btw your concept isn't working as you said yourself the USB current is > reset > to 500mA on powerdown. So how could you charge with 750mA? If system is > powered up odds are it will take away 250mA. On powerdown state it seems to > me there's no way at all to charge with 750mA. I really don't see the > rationale behind all this. > > /j > Personnaly I am not sure but it did not look like usb current was reset on powerdown when I tested (at least it was not reset to 100mA after I had to force it to 500 or 1000 on my dumb charger, and this is what I needed more !) Well, anyway, even if not perfect (chg_curlim following usb_curlim when it is changed), these settings proved really helpfull for me ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] Forcing fast-charge
2009/5/7 Joerg Reisenweber > > Correct - usbdevstat allows 100mA, 500mA, 1A, and suspend (Tbl. 98, MBCC7), > anyway... > Setting chg_curlim won't help whatsoever, as you can set it only during > device > powered up and system running, and during this time the system consumption > USB-to-SYS will add to the chg_curlim you set. So you exceed intended USB > current by setting chg_curlim to the value you intend for USB current, just > to shutdown device after that and hope to reach 'correct' USB current then > eventually - that's silly. > > In my case I used setting chg_curlim also for when phone is on. Yes chg_curlim does not help to force usb real current to ie. 750m exactly. But ! This way I could have my phone use approx 750mA when on (by setting chg_curlim to 500mA). Of course it may sometimes consume up to 1A if needed (the peaks I was talking about...). But this is ok in my case for my weak dumb charger. What would not be ok is having chg_curlim not forced and phone pulling 1A for 30 minutes continuously while charging the battery faster than I need... (And usb_curlim to 500mA would on the other hand not charge quickly enough (about 300mA).) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] Forcing fast-charge
Sorry, my mail was not really clear. Rask already answered questions. But just about usb_limit : 2009/5/2 Joerg Reisenweber > No you have to push USB_CURLIM to >500mA, if you want >500mA. > [... ] > > This way I have about 700-750mA pulled from my charger (though it can > peak > > to 1A as needed). > What's the rationale behind that? > If you set USB_CURLIM to 750mA you get exactly the same behaviour without > the > useless "when needed" part. > > As far as I know, 750mA is not an option for usb_curlim. (only 100, 500 and 1000 I think) Anyway, bat_curlim allows more precise control. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-Unstable] Forcing fast-charge
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 15:36, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > > That's nonsense as there is no dumb charger out there not being capable of > supplying 500mA. OTOH any management of maximum ingress current to USB by > whatever means will inevitably fail when unplugging the charger device > connected to FR during powerdown and replace it with a (nonexistent) weaker > one. I have several car chargers rated 350mA max. (Though I admit pulling 500mA generally works) And what if the "charger" is a small usb host device... like a Freerunner ? Or a solar panel ? Or you have 2 phone charging from the same usb port ? I usually charge from a car charger and when I want to charge faster than 500mA from usb (so ~300mA to battery with phone on), I have to push usb limit to 1A. But as it is too much for my poor charger, I also limit battery charge current (ex 500mA). This way I have about 700-750mA pulled from my charger (though it can peak to 1A as needed). Note than doing this (I used a little GUI with 1 set button for each value), I must set usb current limit, then only I set charge current limit. And in the meanwhile, since charge limit=usb limit=1A, it starts pulling about 1A and I cannot avoid that. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bying a Freerunner with the "buzz"-fix on it
Thanks for all these precisions ! Good to have more infos... 2009/4/4 Steve Mosher : [...] > When distributors start to take shipments of A7 ( see 1-5 above) we will > make an announcement. The buzz fixing program is coming together > with Tuxbrain taking a pivotal role in working through the logistics > with me. > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bying a Freerunner with the "buzz"-fix on it
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 02:09, Steve Mosher wrote: > so much for my schedules. > > There were some issues with ALSA states. so manufacturing got put on > hold. then Chinese new year. I'll have an update shortly on A7. > > So as I understand these were issues not only relating to software ? Because if it was just a matter of alsa states files not ready yet, production would not have to be put on hold (hey if openmoko would wait for software be ready to start production, no freerunner would be existing yet ;-) ) And if it is the buzz fix (by adding the cap) that causes potential problems... what about the SOP currently applied to freerunners ? They may be impacted by incorrect ALSA states ? oh... and still no update about A7 production ? Since I probably have my phone to be replaced (broken button), I am waiting for Bearstech to get new phones (they are out of stock, and anyway since I have to send my phone I want either a A7 or at least the buzz fix applied... not having to send it again later to get it fixed...) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: "$299 ESC San Jose limited time Special!" ?
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 16:00, Joseph Reeves wrote: > Dear all, > > I've not seen any mention of this on the lists, but it all looks very cheap! > > http://us.direct.openmoko.com/products/neo-freerunner > > # GSM 850 ( Promotion, Extras: pouch and headset x 1) $299.00 USD > # GSM 900-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD > # GSM 850-10 Pack $2,690.00 USD > > Not an April Fools thing is it? This must be in-stock phones, and as next ones (GTA2 A7) should have some buzz fix already done at factory, these "old" ones will loose value I would say... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bying a Freerunner with the "buzz"-fix on it
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 01:39, Alexander Raab wrote: > But a few months ago I met someone and he told me that the buzzing is > quite heavy. > I read about a fix for that on the A7, but there is only a A6 sold. Have > I missed something? I do not know what will be fixed on the A7. And Paul Ferster wrote about a modification related to buzz... on the A8 http://n2.nabble.com/Buzz-Issues---Last-Questions%2C-I-promise-tp2509041p2521177.html On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 14:51, Paul Fertser wrote: [...] > NB: Factory-produced A8 will have ferrite beads in place (so RF will > not get anywhere it can be detected in the first place), and that > should probably solve all known buzz problems. > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 16:50, arne anka wrote: > making a call and simultaneously doing something with the phone requires a > headset -- when a call comes in it is easy to plug in the wired headset > and off you go. > using bt means: enable bt, power on headset, connect, pray your partner > has not hung up annoyed. > > having bt on always eats power and i don't like to walk around like a > steiff's teddy bear with a button in my ear, looking like one of these > "hey, i am important!" idiots. Agreed. I am loosing faith in ever having a really usable freerunner... I am now less willing the effort to have the buzz rework done, for only a partial result... On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 17:13, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > I agree. Anyway that's as good as it gets. > > You seen Paul's comment about using internal mic in conjunction with > headphones/headset for GSM purposes? > Except in some cases, not really useful. Usually not have the phone close to my mouth when I use the headset. So internal mic would have to be over amplified, so quality going down and ambiant sounds getting annoying. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bluetooth headsets to the rescue
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:53, Paul Fertser wrote: > > And don't forget that the proposed rework doesn't fix wired headset > mic, it will still produce a lot of buzz. > Oh ? I had not seen this info yet... :-( Is this the same buzz as before rework or another problem ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] some things
I do not agree with the rudeness of these posts, but I add my personal opinion about some points : On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 06:12, Dale Maggee wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > * A (totally, utterly, completely useless) handwriting recognition method. I think it is close to be really usable, and could even be my input method of choice. But default patterns have to be edited, since it is not always easy to use, and some letters pattern are too close to others (especially some numbers have almost the same pattern as letters). Do not remember which ones but maybe i and l and 1, g and 9, So you have to take some time to make some clean patterns. Also when using it I usually disable any dictionary help... (have to draw a triangle then select a tiny menu... should not have to do that each time). And automatic capital letters also bother me. When you corrected letters in a word, it will sometime capitalize again though you're in the middle of a word. > * A (almost completely useless, unless you happen to have a needle, 10 > minutes, and are completely still - keys are so tiny I struggle with a > stylus) full qwerty terminal keyboard. > > * A (not quite completely useless, but working towards it, as per our > discussion) 'predictive' keyboard, which the 2008.X one was obviously > based on at some point. > Rarely used dictionary prediction, only bothered me. First because it was often to write not-in-dictionary things such as names, adresses, ... And second because I do not have french dictionary. (But I never really needed it either yet) The real problem is that dictionary aid should be a plus, and not penalize other typings : -When not in dictionary, you must be able to select what you typed exactly (or just continue typing -space-, and it does not replace your typing). -You must be able to easily correct whatever you type without deleting the whole word before ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OT: iPhone howto
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 16:49, Yorick Moko wrote: > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Paul Fertser wrote: >> FYI GTA03 will most probably have a capacitive touchscreen as well. > > I must have missed that one... > who said/insinuated it? > Andy : https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/218#comment:11 "On GTA03, we have capacitive touchscreen so we can't use the same trick" ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ubuntu host] NetworkManager improvements
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 04:02, Denis Johnson wrote: > > If anyone has already tried then please chime in. > Indeed with NetworkManager connecting the Freerunner was sometimes a pain. So I switched to wicd a month ago, and now it connects flawlessly... I kept my network config file the same as I used before. PS. Also wicd now allows me to turn on/off wifi on my laptop when I want. With NetworkManager, if I did not turn it on at boot time, it was not recognized afterwards... And I also prefer its wifi scanning/configuration, though I still do not understand why it does not always show my AP (as if it was an hidden network). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: thoughts on A-GPS offline
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 17:49, Al Johnson wrote: > I may be misunderstanding the suggestion, but I don't think it had anything to > do with data from ublox. The suggestion was to use data sent by other > freerunner users instead of the data supplied by ublox. As I understood the suggestion was in reply to : >> It is not a problem that user account is required when download u-blox online >> aiding data. > It is a problem since u-blox might go out of business and you might > not want to tell them where you are all time. Their server also might > be down. There are plenty of reasons to remove dependency to any > single party. The problem is that data from u-blox is a proprietary format, and as far as I know, we do not know yet how to create the same data that can be pushed to the GPS chip. So for now we need to get this info from u-blox . Hence the account problem. I understood the suggestion just as way to cache this info in response to the availability problem for u-blox online service. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: thoughts on A-GPS offline
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 16:52, Helge Hafting wrote: > Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: >> mqy writes: >>> It is not a problem that user account is required when download u-blox >>> online >>> aiding data. >> >> It is a problem since u-blox might go out of business and you might >> not want to tell them where you are all time. Their server also might >> be down. There are plenty of reasons to remove dependency to any >> single party. > > It is possible to start an open service, with mirrors. Interested people > can set their freerunners to send in good aiding data when they have it > (i.e. when using the gps and a network is available.) Infos downloaded from u-blox are only valid for some time. So if server is down for more than just a short time, it won't help much. And I did not check but not I am not sure u-blox terms of service allow to redistribute... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: connect freerunner with debian to a windows-PC
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 06:21, Bastian Muck wrote: > Gothnet schrieb: >> The windows driver seems dodgy. The 5th of december Android image made >> windows bluescreen when you plugged the FR into a machine with the driver >> installed. >> >> Linux is your friend, though of course that's not always possible. > I don't know what your problem is. I conected my fr often to my > Windows XP and never had problems. I tried 2007.X, 2008.X and Qt Extended. > Yes it seems to be broken since kernel 2.6.28 . Used to even crash windows but openmoko kernel was patched a few weeks ago. Though it does not crash anymore but still does not work. (broken in upstream linux kernel) see http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2211 http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2183476 http://android.koolu.org/pipermail/android-freerunner-koolu.org/2009-February/000339.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:32, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Kernel version should not matter here as long as you are powering down > the appropriate devices? > It does, because older kernel may not power down correctly these devices... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [All] FR survey and locations
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 09:55, Thomas Otterbein wrote: >> I can't answer the question "What band does your provider use", >> because mine uses both 900 and 1800. > > But the FR uses only one of them at the same time, doesn't it? > And of course you could add two records. I mean in case the answers to the > other questions would change depending on the band you use. one at a time but it can change whenever "it" wants, and even during call. Also I there is no easy way to know what band you are currently using. Yes some others answers (buzz...) may be affected by the band in use, but also by a lot of other factors (signal strength, provider, ...). Who will know all these parameters for all specific behaviour of his freerunner ? And creating a new record for every combination is not really an option anyway ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] inital thoughts
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 06:21, Charles Pax wrote: > If the rumors [1] of the G2 are true, we won't have to worry about ugly > workarounds; a touch screen only interface will be in the upstream > Yes, there is touchscreen only support in development. The coming android "cupcake" branch does include software keyboard support. But the Neo has only 2 buttons which is really not enough... See thread http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/fbade4fc62021894/2c80b560c616b22c : "Cupcake still requires the send, end, home, menu, and back hard keys to function properly." So we still need workarounds to simulate 5 keys with only 2 available ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 16:22, arne anka wrote: > there's rosetta >> http://www.handhelds.org/project/rosetta/ > and i managed to compile it and install on my debian/fso. > but so far i had not much time to test it (wasn't that convincing the > first tries), and anyway it seems pretty much abandoned. > > another attempt is cellwriter >> http://risujin.org/cellwriter > which at least is in debian -- i totally forgot about this until now, have > to try it come weekend. > > both are not really like graffiti, which best part was the standardized > shapes instead of complex learning and recognizing algorithm for every > single hand. > There is also the one in Qtextended which is not far to be really usable. Though default shapes have to be edited (some are about the same for different characters, especially bettween some letters and numbers, like 9 and g maybe -do not remember-) But it would need to be ported to be used outside of Qtopia... Now that Qt is moving to LGPL, this might be an option ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] How to close the browser window
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 04:45, Denis Galvão wrote: > Is there a way to close the browser, or come back to the phone start > screen? > > Denis. > I did not find how to do that either... "back" (aux key) does an history back till first page where it finally exits. But I think I managed to exit by going to "window" screen (via menu button), then pressing back (cannot test now but something like that). When comming back to browser I think opened "windows" where kept. More generally, how can we go to home screen (to launch another app...) without quitting completly the application we are in ? (so that you can come back later). And is there some kind of "task manager", to see open applications, and switch to them ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] koolu first beta release
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 17:14, Giorgio Marci wrote: > Koolu has released the first Android OS beta release. > > Does anyone have tried it? > I flashed it. I did not notice significant changes from Sean's image of 5 dec. (yet ?) - Software keyboard has been modified with bigger keys. - Cannot turn on bluetooth anymore Did not try GSM yet. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] Maps application
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 21:45, Jim Ancona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IANAL, but the SDK license agreement says "Except to the extent required > by applicable third party licenses, you may not load any part of the SDK > onto a mobile handset or any other hardware device except a personal > computer, combine any part of the SDK with other software, or distribute > any software or device incorporating a part of the SDK." I would read > that as prohibiting even installing anything from the SDK on your own > phone, never mind distributing it. > Yes, the point missing here is the "applicable third party licence". (and it is not even really third party !). I see no reason why google would not allow the use of this API. Not open sourcing it is one thing, but it is an important piece of their framework, and their goal is to spread the use of android and its applications... > Even if the API were available, Google's TOS are fairly restrictive (see > http://code.google.com/android/maps-api-signup.html). In particular, > you may not "use the Service or Content with any products, systems, or > applications for or in connection with (a) real time navigation or route > guidance based on position input from a sensor (including but not > limited to any visual or audible turn-byturn route guidance)". That > seems to prohibit even using the GPS to indicate the direction to your > destination. > > To avoid all these issues, one alternative is OSMdroid, a > reimplementation of the Maps API using Open Street Maps data. It's at: > > http://code.google.com/p/osmdroid/ > I have installed Andnav 2. Looks really promising. I do not know if it can run without google.map API (since I did add the library for other tests) Andnav1 was depending on it and its data. But due to licence issues, (for advanced use as navigation, offline cache,...), version 2 uses OSM. I will try the GPS tracking soon. For now, I could not test much because I cannot get internet connectivity with Android on my neo. But I cached some maps within Andnav2 in the Emulator, then copied them onto my neo, so I can navigate the maps now. (to try Andnav, you have to register on their site, but for I think it is not yet opened to the US) http://www.andnav.org/ http://www.andnav.org/index.php/community-forum?task=viewtopic&id=12 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] Maps application
On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 09:04, Cédric Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - I finally got a GPS fix ! (but I really miss a simple GPS > application to see basic GPS data.) > But Maps crashes as soon as GPS has got a fix. ( ClassCastException > when trying to locate on map). I lost my log file so I need to do > another test (and get a fix) to get the exact class > Any idea ? : > Finally got the log when trying to locate : /AndroidRuntime( 5729): Shutting down VM W/dalvikvm( 5729): threadid=3: thread exiting with uncaught exception (group=0x40010e28) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729): Uncaught handler: thread main exiting due to uncaught exception E/AndroidRuntime( 5729): java.lang.ClassCastException: android.graphics.drawable.BitmapDrawable E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at com.google.android.maps.MyLocationOverlay.getLocationDot(MyLocationOverlay.java:179) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at com.google.android.maps.MyLocationOverlay.drawMyLocation(MyLocationOverlay.java:541) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at com.google.android.maps.MyLocationOverlay.draw(MyLocationOverlay.java:491) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at com.google.android.maps.OverlayBundle.draw(OverlayBundle.java:45) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at com.google.android.maps.MapView.onDraw(MapView.java:451) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at android.view.View.draw(View.java:5352) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at android.view.ViewGroup.drawChild(ViewGroup.java:1436) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at android.view.ViewGroup.dispatchDraw(ViewGroup.java:1208) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at android.view.ViewGroup.drawChild(ViewGroup.java:1434) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at android.view.ViewGroup.dispatchDraw(ViewGroup.java:1208) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at android.view.ViewGroup.drawChild(ViewGroup.java:1434) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at android.view.ViewGroup.dispatchDraw(ViewGroup.java:1208) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at android.view.View.draw(View.java:5355) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at android.widget.FrameLayout.draw(FrameLayout.java:324) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at com.android.internal.policy.impl.PhoneWindow$DecorView.draw(PhoneWindow.java:1701) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at android.view.ViewRoot.draw(ViewRoot.java:980) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at android.view.ViewRoot.performTraversals(ViewRoot.java:829) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at android.view.ViewRoot.handleMessage(ViewRoot.java:1103) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at android.os.Handler.dispatchMessage(Handler.java:88) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at android.os.Looper.loop(Looper.java:123) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at android.app.ActivityThread.main(ActivityThread.java:3742) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at java.lang.reflect.Method.invokeNative(Native Method) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:515) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit$MethodAndArgsCaller.run(ZygoteInit.java:739) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit.main(ZygoteInit.java:497) E/AndroidRuntime( 5729):at dalvik.system.NativeStart.main(Native Method) I/Process ( 869): Sending signal. PID: 5729 SIG: 3 I/dalvikvm( 5729): threadid=7: reacting to signal 3 I/dalvikvm( 5729): Wrote stack trace to '/data/anr/traces.txt' - Note that I also have a lot of these logs. Maybe "normal" since I have no connection so no map tiles available, but it should not try (and fail) to show empty tiles... D/skia( 5729): xxx jpeg error 53 Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x%02x 0x%02x E/MapView ( 5729): IllegalStateException on drawMap. Wiping cache. E/MapView ( 5729): java.lang.IllegalStateException: Null Bitmap!/loading_tile.png=17301864 E/MapView ( 5729): at com.google.common.graphics.android.AndroidImage.(Unknown Source) E/MapView ( 5729): at com.google.common.graphics.android.AndroidImageFactory.createImage(Unknown Source) E/MapView ( 5729): at com.google.googlenav.map.MapTile.c(Unknown Source) E/MapView ( 5729): at com.google.googlenav.map.MapTile.getImage(Unknown Source) E/MapView ( 5729): at com.google.googlenav.map.Map.a(Unknown Source) E/MapView ( 5729): at com.google.googlenav.map.Map.drawMap(Unknown Source) E/MapView ( 5729): at com.google.android.maps.MapView.drawMap(MapView.java:997) E/MapView ( 5729): at com.google.android.maps.MapView.onDraw(MapView.java:443) E/MapView ( 5729): at android.view.View.draw(View.java:5352) E/MapView ( 5729): at android.view.ViewGroup.drawChild(ViewGroup.java:1436) E/MapView ( 5729): at android.view.ViewGroup.dispatchDraw(ViewGroup.java:1208) E/MapView ( 5729): at android.view.ViewGroup.drawChild(ViewGroup.java:1434) E/MapView ( 5729): at android.view.ViewGroup.dispatchDraw(ViewGroup.java:1208) E/MapView ( 5729): at android.view.ViewGroup.drawChild(ViewGroup.java:1434) E/MapView ( 5729
[android] Maps application
Hi, Is the Android Maps application available somewhere ? I installed the Maps.apk I got from the Emulator. It also needs /system/framework/com.google.android.maps.jar (I also pulled it from Emulator) - are there legal issues to distribute them ? - I still have no internet connectivity so could not try much, but it seems to work, I can navigate and zoom in empty map screen. - I finally got a GPS fix ! (but I really miss a simple GPS application to see basic GPS data.) But Maps crashes as soon as GPS has got a fix. ( ClassCastException when trying to locate on map). I lost my log file so I need to do another test (and get a fix) to get the exact class Any idea ? : ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 18:30, Gothnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Cédric Berger wrote: >> >> >> But I made a call and while on call I could not get the keyboard ! >> Menu button brings special call menu, and there is not the keybord >> button :-( >> I am afraid that it could be the same for incoming calls. So you could >> not answer. >> >> So no access to volume buttons. And DTMF with Phone application >> numerical keyboard does not work... >> > > > I'll give incoming calls a go with real hardware slightly later, but from > what you're saying you wouldn't be able to hang up! > > Still, progress eh? > -- Well hang up is possible since there is an hang up button on the standard phone menu. (press menu button during call to see it) The problem is to respond to a call... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 17:48, Rui Castro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Theoretically, yes. > I have done it in the emulator, with a test call made from AnETTe > (http://android-telefonie.de/anette/). > > Rui > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Levy A. M. Sant'Anna > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 01:38, Rui Castro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> My first impressions on this new image is that it isn't usable :) >> >> Hi Rui, >> >> Is it able to answer calls now? >> No one called me :-p But I made a call and while on call I could not get the keyboard ! Menu button brings special call menu, and there is not the keybord button :-( I am afraid that it could be the same for incoming calls. So you could not answer. So no access to volume buttons. And DTMF with Phone application numerical keyboard does not work... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 17:34, Cédric Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 05:35, Sean McNeil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Can you send me the output of
>>
>> ADBHOST=neo ./adb logcat -b radio
>>
>
> No GSM for me either.
> And SIM contacts import fails too (says "no contacts on SIM").
>
> (I aso tried in settings to register to networks, but it already was
> failing with previous images)
>
> adb logcat -b radio :
Oh in fact after booting under qtopia, and have it register to
network, I came back in android and it correctly re-registered to this
GSM network.
I already had this kind of problems on previous android images.
(note that I am at a location where I have access also to roaming networks)
sorry for big log :-p this is what I had this time :
D/GSM ( 912): [DataConnectionTracker] Radio is off and clean up
all connection
D/GSM ( 912): [DataConnectionTracker] Clean up connection due to
radioTurnedOff
D/GSM ( 912): [DataConnection] Stop poll NetStat
D/GSM ( 912): [DataConnection] Stop poll NetStat
D/GSM ( 912): [DataConnectionTracker] ***trySetupData due to roamingOff
D/GSM ( 912): [DataConnectionTracker] trySetupData: Not ready for
data: dataState=IDLE gprsState=1 sim=false UMTS=false phoneState=IDLE
dataEnabled=true roaming=false dataOnRoamingEnable=false
D/GSM ( 912): [GsmSimCard] Broadcasting intent
SIM_STATE_CHANGED_ACTION NOT_READY reason null
D/RILJ( 912): [0002]> BASEBAND_VERSION
D/RILJ( 912): [0003]> GET_IMEI
D/RILJ( 912): [0004]> GET_IMEISV
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]> AT+CFUN=1
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< %CSTAT: PHB, 0
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]> AT+CFUN=1
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< OK
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]> AT+CTZU=1
D/GSM ( 912): Notifying: Radio On
D/RILJ( 912): [0005]> OPERATOR
D/RILJ( 912): [0006]> GPRS_REGISTRATION_STATE
D/RILJ( 912): [UNSL]< RADIO_STATE_CHANGED SIM_NOT_READY
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< OK
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]> AT+CTZR=1
D/RILJ( 912): [0007]> REGISTRATION_STATE
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< OK
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]> AT+CPIN?
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< +CPIN: READY
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< OK
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]> AT+CSMS=0
D/RILJ( 912): [0008]> QUERY_NETWORK_SELECTION_MODE
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< +CMS ERROR: 314
D/RIL ( 853): onRequest: BASEBAND_VERSION
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]> AT%BAND?
D/RILJ( 912): [0001]< RADIO_POWER
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< %BAND: 0
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< OK
D/RIL ( 853): onRequest: GET_IMEI
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]> AT+CGSN
D/RILJ( 912): [0002]< BASEBAND_VERSION 0
D/RILJ( 912): [0009]> GET_CURRENT_CALLS
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< +CGSN: 354651011607019
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< OK
D/RIL ( 853): onRequest: GET_IMEISV
D/RIL ( 853): onRequest: OPERATOR
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]> AT+COPS=3,0;+COPS?;+COPS=3,1;+COPS?;+COPS=3,2;+COPS?
D/RILJ( 912): [0003]< GET_IMEI
D/RILJ( 912): [0004]< GET_IMEISV error:
com.android.internal.telephony.gsm.CommandException:
REQUEST_NOT_SUPPORTED
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< +COPS: 0
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< +COPS: 0
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< +COPS: 0
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< OK
D/RIL ( 853): onRequest: GPRS_REGISTRATION_STATE
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]> AT+CGREG?
D/RILJ( 912): [0005]< OPERATOR {null, null, null}
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< +CGREG: 2,0
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< OK
D/RIL ( 853): onRequest: REGISTRATION_STATE
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]> AT+CREG?
D/RILJ( 912): [0006]< GPRS_REGISTRATION_STATE {0, -1, -1}
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< +CREG: 2,0
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< OK
D/RIL ( 853): onRequest: QUERY_NETWORK_SELECTION_MODE
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]> AT+COPS?
D/RILJ( 912): [0007]< REGISTRATION_STATE {0, -1, -1}
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< +COPS: 0
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< OK
D/RIL ( 853): onRequest: GET_CURRENT_CALLS
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]> AT+CLCC
D/RILJ( 912): [0008]< QUERY_NETWORK_SELECTION_MODE {0}
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< OK
D/RILJ( 912): [0009]< GET_CURRENT_CALLS
D/GSM ( 912): Poll ServiceState done: oldSS=[3 home null null
null ] newSS=[1 home null null null ] oldGprs=1 newGprs=1
oldType=unknown newType=unknown
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]> AT+CPIN?
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< +CPIN: READY
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< OK
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]> AT+CSMS=0
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< +CMS ERROR: 314
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< %CSTAT: PHB, 0
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< %CSTAT: PHB, 0
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< %CSTAT: PHB, 0
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]> AT+CPIN?
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< +CPIN: READY
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< OK
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]> AT+CSMS=0
D/AT ( 853): MUX[1]< +CMS ERROR:
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 17:34, Cédric Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 05:35, Sean McNeil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Can you send me the output of >> >> ADBHOST=neo ./adb logcat -b radio >> > > No GSM for me either. > And SIM contacts import fails too (says "no contacts on SIM"). > > (I aso tried in settings to register to networks, but it already was > failing with previous images) > I also get this error on startup : (my data partition -first partition on SD- is 4GB but I think it was ok with your previous image) E/MediaScannerService( 1000): exception in MediaScanner.scan() E/MediaScannerService( 1000): java.lang.RuntimeException: Out of memory E/MediaScannerService( 1000): at android.media.MediaScanner.native_setup(Native Method) E/MediaScannerService( 1000): at android.media.MediaScanner.(MediaScanner.java:320) E/MediaScannerService( 1000): at com.android.providers.media.MediaScannerService.scan(MediaScannerService.java:88) E/MediaScannerService( 1000): at com.android.providers.media.MediaScannerService.access$200(MediaScannerService.java:43) E/MediaScannerService( 1000): at com.android.providers.media.MediaScannerService$ServiceHandler.handleMessage(MediaScannerService.java:234) E/MediaScannerService( 1000): at android.os.Handler.dispatchMessage(Handler.java:88) E/MediaScannerService( 1000): at android.os.Looper.loop(Looper.java:123) E/MediaScannerService( 1000): at com.android.providers.media.MediaScannerService.run(MediaScannerService.java:155) E/MediaScannerService( 1000): at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:935) D/MediaScannerService( 1000): done scanning volume internal D/MediaScannerService( 1000): start scanning volume external D/dalvikvm( 873): GREF has increased to 201 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 05:35, Sean McNeil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can you send me the output of > > ADBHOST=neo ./adb logcat -b radio > No GSM for me either. And SIM contacts import fails too (says "no contacts on SIM"). (I aso tried in settings to register to networks, but it already was failing with previous images) adb logcat -b radio : I/RIL ( 857): Opening tty device /dev/s3c2410_serial0,115200 I/RIL ( 857): Setting tty device parameters D/AT ( 857): CHAT> D/AT ( 857): D/AT ( 857): D/AT ( 857): AT D/AT ( 857): CHAT< AT-Command Interpreter ready D/AT ( 857): CHAT> ATZ D/AT ( 857): CHAT< OK D/AT ( 857): CHAT> ATE0Q0V1 D/AT ( 857): CHAT< ATZ D/AT ( 857): CHAT< OK D/AT ( 857): CHAT> AT+CMUX=1,0,5,128 D/AT ( 857): CHAT< ATE0Q0V1 D/AT ( 857): CHAT< OK D/RIL ( 857): Connecting GPRS channel to tty /dev/pts/0 E/RIL ( 857): Error creating PPP options file: /data/ppp/options.gprs. D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> ATE0Q0V1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> ATE0Q0V1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> ATE0Q0V1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> ATE0Q0V1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> ATE0Q0V1 I/RIL ( 857): AT channel timeout; closing D/AT ( 857): MUX[2]> ATE0Q0V1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[2]> ATE0Q0V1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[2]> ATE0Q0V1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[2]> ATE0Q0V1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[2]> ATE0Q0V1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CRC=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CRC=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CRC=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CRC=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CRC=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> ATS0=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> ATS0=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> ATS0=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> ATS0=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> ATS0=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMEE=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMEE=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMEE=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMEE=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMEE=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[2]> AT+CMEE=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[2]> AT+CMEE=1 I/RIL ( 857): Re-opening after close I/RIL ( 857): Setting tty device parameters D/AT ( 857): CHAT> D/AT ( 857): D/AT ( 857): D/AT ( 857): AT D/AT ( 857): CHAT> AT D/AT ( 857): MUX[2]> AT+CMEE=1 D/AT ( 857): CHAT> ATZ D/AT ( 857): MUX[2]> AT+CMEE=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[2]> AT+CMEE=1 I/RIL ( 857): AT channel timeout; closing D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CREG=2 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CREG=2 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CREG=2 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CREG=2 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CREG=2 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CREG=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CREG=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CREG=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CREG=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CREG=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CGREG=2 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CGREG=2 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CGREG=2 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CGREG=2 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CGREG=2 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CCWA=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CCWA=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CCWA=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CCWA=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CCWA=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMOD=2 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMOD=2 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMOD=2 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMOD=2 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMOD=2 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMUT=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMUT=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMUT=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMUT=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMUT=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CSSN=0,1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CSSN=0,1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CSSN=0,1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CSSN=0,1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CSSN=0,1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+COLP=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+COLP=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+COLP=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+COLP=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+COLP=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CSCS="HEX" D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CSCS="HEX" D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CSCS="HEX" D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CSCS="HEX" D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CSCS="HEX" D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CUSD=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CUSD=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CUSD=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CUSD=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CUSD=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CGEREP=1,0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CGEREP=1,0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CGEREP=1,0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CGEREP=1,0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CGEREP=1,0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMGF=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMGF=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMGF=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMGF=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CMGF=0 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT%CSTAT=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT%CSTAT=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT%CSTAT=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT%CSTAT=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT%CSTAT=1 D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CFUN? D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CFUN? D/AT ( 857): MUX[1]> AT+CFUN? D/AT ( 857): MUX[
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 12:34, Gothnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've also discovered a new feature in the image since my last post. Plugging > it into my windows box to charge makes the box bluescreen. Not only when > booted, but if it's plugged in then the OS bluescreens differently during > startup. Yay! Same for me, except I do not even have bluescreen: immediate reboot. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 16:38, Gothnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please forgive me for replying to so many of my own emails... > > Apparently the answer is "setprop net.usb0.dns1 $IP_ADDRESS" > > Though I haven't made it do anything because the browser won't start, > there's no keypad to enter mail settings and the only command line tool I > can find (ping) doesn't seem to get the setting. Guess I need a keyboard. > -- the browser crashes because of Gears (not ported -and not open source-). I had to remove it on the sdcard : /data/data/com.android.browser/app_plugins/gears.so Then the browser can start. Maybe you can type mail settings via the copy/paste keyboard : ( apk on http://code.google.com/p/netgents/downloads/list ) Another way to edit settings without keyboard is to configure apps in emulator, then copy settings files (under /data/data/xx/ ) via adb from emulator to neo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: First impressions on new Android rootfs
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 14:27, Gothnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Improvements since the first release are evident, the graphics are now pretty
> glitch free where they used to occasionally flicker.
>
> However, since the last image I flashed, bluetooth has stopped working, I
> now just get a message saying "Unable to turn on Bluetooth".
>
> Wifi claims to turn on but fails to scan. Can't remember if this is better
> or worse than before.
> No keyboard, will attempt to find a way to install the one mentioned here:
>
> http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1583918
>
> Err... does anyone know if suspend/resume works yet?
>
- suspend/resume is known not work yet (at least not reliably).
- indeed bluetooth does not work anymore, but I guess it is because of
the newest kernel. I did not try it again with previous kernel though.
(anyway before I could scan/pair bluetooth but I could not do anything
more with it -file transfer, ...-).
- wifi still does not work. It is acknowledged by Sean and he is
investigating on this.
- with latest kernel, for exemple, backlight brightness is not managed
anymore. (because of some kernel changes). I tried Sean's modification
:
("You'll need to change /system/build.prop:
backlight.lcd=/sys/class/backlight/gta02-bl").
But I did not manage to get it work yet.
- Also Sean is working on integrating the software keyboard from Rui Castro .
For now, most wanted for me is a keyboard, and internet connectivity
(90% off android applications need internet access !).
Wifi does not work, GPRS either (for me at least), and I did not
manage to have internet access via USB (though I have read this may
work ? Success anyone ?).
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Re: Android rootfs image?
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all. > > I flashed the new Image > (http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/androidfs.jffs2) > and uimage (http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/uImage-android). > > I expect, as read in other threads > (http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1583918%7Ca1585457), > to have the virtual keyboard > startable via menu. But its missing. > > Is there a possibility to install this keyboard. > > Ueli > Hi, This keyboard is indeed not in this image. But Sean just indicated he is now in process of including it. Said in kernel list (http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1583918%7Ca1585457 ) : On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:24, Sean McNeil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cédric Berger wrote: >> >> On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:52, Sean McNeil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Cédric Berger wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Looks like the virtual keyboard that was proposed by... [oups I do not >>>> remember who :-p ]... is not included yet. >>>> Have you tried to integrate it ? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Argg. Completely slipped my mind. I'm going back over your work right >>> now. >>> >> >> Ok cool ! >> >> oh and it was Rui Castro I was talking about for the keyboard : >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/android-framework/browse_thread/thread/c8ca666ee3fa9cca >> > > Yes, that's the one I will incorporate. > >> >> >>>> >>>> For now I have not yet seen what are the differences with previous >>>> image (the broken one without video libs, that was quickly removed) >>>> >>>> I will now try with your latest kernel. >>>> >>>> >> >> With latest kernel : >> - when trying to shut down android, it is stuck showing "shutting down" >> >> - backlight brigthness cannot be adjusted (it looks like it is at >> maximum). >> > > Yes, I experience the same behavior here on shutdown. It is lower priority > to me than the other problems, though. > Backlight has moved in the new kernel. It's been a while since I've done any > verification on that. > > You'll need to change /system/build.prop: > > backlight.lcd=/sys/class/backlight/gta02-bl > > I'm going to move everything forward to andy-tracking. Better to test now > than later. > >> And WIFI seems to still not work (with either kernel) : "impossible to >> search networks" >> > > This has been broken for me a long time on various kernels. It must me > something I'm doing wrong. I'll need to get Werner to help me on this. I > just can't get anything on a scan at all. > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: us network and Uuntu 8.10 - is there a better way?
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 02:46, Joel Newkirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also be aware that the Network Manager in Ubuntu Intrepid is currently > buggy. If you have it running, it is prone to do friendly things like > automatically add the static IP and route for eth0 to usb0 when it comes > up. Either it controls all interfaces, or it's not running, right now it > refuses to leave any interface alone and hopelessly bungles anything > statically defined in /etc/network/interfaces, ignoring the 'ignore > interface' flag and claiming all interfaces. > > (yeah, same IP and route on two interfaces, and default tries to go out the > wrong interface so the desktop is effectively off the network, and it > leaves behind an empty /etc/resolv.conf - sounds like a FreeRunner :) > Thanks, I did wonder what I did wrong on my computer to have default network route directed to freerunner as soon as I plugged it in ! (so no more internet access) I am not used to linux networking, so it took me a while to figure how to manually delete this rule... (and the network manager UI was not of a great help... not so user friendly !) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 16:12, Cédric Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 16:16, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" >> Just a question before trying these files: do they allow to play media like >> before? >> > > well I don't know since I have never tried playing media... > Have you tried ? And what kind of media could you play ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Minty Boost && FreeRunner
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 17:24, DJDAS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cédric Berger ha scritto: >> I did not have a look at neo's circuitry. >> But whatever the method it uses, it cannot force 1A if 1A is not >> available (wall charger unplugged from the wall won't give 1A :-p ) ? >> > Uhm...not exactly true... Ohm Law says: V = R * I -> I = V/R, and if > R->0 then I->oo > In practice if you power a load with a little impedance (in real systems > the load is not always only resistive) the current requested will grow > and the source could be damaged (try to short circuit a normal battery, > you'll see a flash and if you maintain the circuit closed you'll meld > the battery). > This is why you should not ask 1000mA from the USB port (for example) > unless you're sure the hardware could give it. > Bye :) > Yes but I also have some car adapters that "did not mind" being shorted (12v to 5v adapter, given for 350mA). So I doubt a device wanting 1A would be worst than a short circuit... but what would be the output in such a case I do not know. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Minty Boost && FreeRunner
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 16:10, Tilman Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cédric Berger wrote: >> I am not an electronician but would not it be possible to have a >> little circuit in the minty boost limiting current to 500mA (or other >> value), even though the freerunner "tries" to get 1A ? > > Nope. Current is a effect not a cause. *g* > -- I did not have a look at neo's circuitry. But whatever the method it uses, it cannot force 1A if 1A is not available (wall charger unplugged from the wall won't give 1A :-p ) ? Probably the voltage will have to be dropped so that less current (and/or power) is given to Neo... remains to be seen to what point this can (?) be done with the neo still accepting charging ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Minty Boost && FreeRunner
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 15:14, Matthias Apitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Adding the 47k resistor to the minty boost so that the Freerunner fast >charges at 1A is a poor idea for a couple reasons, the biggest one being >that the minty boost can't supply 1A the max is 600mA. as far as I know, >there is no magic resistor to identify a 500mA charger to the >Freerunner, it depends on USB host telling it that it can provide 500mA. Yes 1A is a lot. I am not an electronician but would not it be possible to have a little circuit in the minty boost limiting current to 500mA (or other value), even though the freerunner "tries" to get 1A ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Soft keyboard
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 04:51, Walter Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > read the comments at the bottom: > http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/11/getting-started-with-android-on-neo.html > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:09 AM, Tomas Riveros Schober <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> I'm not familiar with the android environment so here are a couple of >> questions >> do I need the android SDK to install this keyboard? if I don't need it >> then, >> how do I ssh into android once it's running? I've tried the usual >> ifconfig usb0 x.x.x.x && ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] but the connection is >> refused. >> if i dont need to ssh to install it, then how to do it? >> for example I do the ifconfig usb. thing, then : export ADBHOST=192.168.0.202 ./adb install yourapp.apk (download adb from SDK, or from here : http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ ) But you can also just copy the .apk file directly on the SD card second partition, under /app (by exemple via ssh if you booted another distro, just copy under /media/mmcblk0p2/app/ ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Soft keyboard
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:07, Walter Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i can't wait till q1 of next year for google to come out with a soft > keyboard so i made one. I used the copy-and-paste functionality on Android > so the keyboard works with other apps without changing them. to download: > http://code.google.com/p/netgents/downloads/list and download > qad-keyboard.apk. for instructions on installation and usage: > http://code.google.com/p/netgents/wiki/QadKeyboardHowto . > Works for me. Excellent, big thanks !!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] copy paste
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 20:18, Petr Vanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>I just tried this method for pairing with my bluetooth keyboard. I can >>copy from the calculator, and paste into the bluetooth PIN dialog (you >>see the numbers briefly before they are converted to circles) but the >>OK button in the dialog is never enabled :-( Will have to try with the >>debug connection some time. >> > > i haven't checked, but wasn't the issue more about the BT API not being > complete only with sound support? Although yes, pairing should work > anyways... > I also tried with copy/paste from the calculator. The blutooth PIN dialog OK button is still disabled, but if you press power button, then it is activated But I did not manage to pair with my PC :-( Also... not easy when your PC generate a PIN number at connection time... android dialog box is already opened, so you cannot go to calculator to type these numbers ! Is there a way to switch between applications without closing them ? (like you can in Qtopia by long press on aux) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 19:36, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cédric Berger wrote: >> I tried the version Sean published yesterday (without video codecs, >> but broken and not available anymore). And I put back the missing lib >> preventing it to start. > > Please could you share them somewhere? :P > well I presume I'm not allowed to :-p anyway I haven't them here just now and won't have internet access till tomorrow. If you still have the 2 jffs2 images... I did reflash old one, extracted libs, then flashed again new image ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.
I tried the version Sean published yesterday (without video codecs, but broken and not available anymore). And I put back the missing lib preventing it to start. - GPS seems might be ok now. GPSTracker does not complain anymore and tries to locate me... but I am in a building and I could not get a fix yet. - Wifi scanning still fails, but with another error : before it complained about /data/system/wpa_supplicant/eth0 , now it is : D/WifiHW ( 618): Unable to open connection to supplicant on "/data/misc/wifi/sockets/eth0": No such file or directory V/WifiStateTracker( 618): Connection to supplicant lost D/SettingsWifiEnabler( 844): Received wifi state changed from Disabled to Enabling D/SettingsWifiEnabler( 844): Received wifi state changed from Enabling to Enabled E/SettingsWifiLayer( 844): Unable to scan for networks - I am also trying to have gprs/mms working, but still no luck. Though I have to try different settings since I am not really sure about what I have to put for my provider (SFR, france). And without keyboard, I reboot each time in another distro to change settings :-p I put APN settings directly in /data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/telephony.db . Or I can also put them in xml : system/etc/apns-conf.xml , so that they are put into database at creation time : for mms I tried : (I guessed the xml syntax from source code, but I do not know what is expected in "type" field) : http://mms1"; type="wap" /> ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 06:40, Petr Vanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:35:27 +0100 > Petr Vanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (PV) wrote: > >>>I flashed this new image and it doesn't boot anymore. >>>Tried with the same SD card as before, deleted the old files from the >>>ext3 partition, and nothing. All I see is a black screen. >>> >> > the image is gone from the url now. i guess some rework is being done. > yes, see http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/f7bb35d5b79850da/a68a12ba578fe676 : Packet Video was suppressed in this image, due to codec license issue. But the rootfs was not functional anymore. It is being reworked. I had downloaded this rootfs and had to add libs ins /system/lib/ from previous rootfs : libmedia_jni.so was the one missing preventing it to start. I do not know if others missing also would have prevented it to start since I copied them all back (10 files libopencore*.so, and modules/wlan.ko) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[android] copy paste
Hi, Is it possible to copy/paste in Android ? If yes, is it possible do do it without keyboard ? And if copy/paste is possible, this means that we could use a software keyboard app to write text, copy it, then paste into another application text field... or not ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:02, Sean McNeil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cédric Berger wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 18:17, akurpiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> - Wifi is working " by hand":
>>> - copy working wpa_supplicant.conf to phone
>>> - login via adb shell
>>> - use commanddhcpcd eth0
>>> - check and write correct data to " getprop" and " sendprop ..."
>>> - included web browser not start at all
>>> - installed by "adb install ... "news reader is working !!
>>>
>> W/dalvikvm( 1104): VFY: unable to resolve new-instance 134
>> (Lcom/google/android/maps/GeoPoint;) in Lorg/andnav/ui/Preferences;
>> W/dalvikvm( 1104): VFY: rejecting opcode 0x22 at 0x0026
>
> This could be that maps uses a few opcodes that I have so far found are not
> used. I'll look into it.
>
Thanks Sean.
- About wifi, I could not try yet "by hand".
In current image there is this error when trying to activate wifi via
settings menu :
I/ActivityManager( 615): Displayed activity
com.android.settings/.wifi.WifiSettings: 997 ms
D/WifiHW ( 615): Unable to open connection to supplicant on "eth0":
No such file or directory
V/WifiStateTracker( 615): Connection to supplicant lost
D/SettingsWifiEnabler( 762): Received wifi state changed from
Disabled to Enabling
D/SettingsWifiEnabler( 762): Received wifi state changed from
Enabling to Enabled
E/SettingsWifiLayer( 762): Unable to scan for networks
I/NotificationService( 615): enqueueToast pkg=com.android.settings
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
duration=1
D/WifiHW ( 615): Unable to open connection to supplicant on
"/data/system/wpa_supplicant/eth0": No such file or directory
D/WifiHW ( 615): Unable to open connection to supplicant on
"/data/system/wpa_supplicant/eth0": No such file or directory
E/SettingsWifiLayer( 762): Unable to scan for networks
But also, after trying that, if wifi is deactivated from settings, it
keeps logging errors (about 1 every 2 seconds) :
D/SettingsWifiEnabler( 762): Received wifi state changed from
Disabling to Disabled
I/ActivityManager( 615): Displayed activity
com.android.settings/.Settings: 966 ms
D/WifiHW ( 615): Unable to open connection to supplicant on "eth0":
No such file or directory
I/ActivityManager( 615): Displayed activity
com.android.launcher/.Launcher: 1075 ms
D/WifiHW ( 615): Unable to open connection to supplicant on "eth0":
No such file or directory
D/WifiHW ( 615): Unable to open connection to supplicant on "eth0":
No such file or directory
D/WifiHW ( 615): Unable to open connection to supplicant on "eth0":
No such file or directory
[...]
- About GSM, searching for networks does not work (but once registered
on a network it correctly does roaming automatically).
I get these logs :
E/LocationManagerService( 615): Exception in
PhoneStateListener.onCellLocationCahnged:
E/LocationManagerService( 615): java.lang.IllegalArgumentException:
key.length > 31
E/LocationManagerService( 615):at
android.os.SystemProperties.get(SystemProperties.java:42)
But I can see that this is being cared for (
http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/12e0903189b32e84
)
- This property length limit prevents apps using location to work.
But I tried to use Maps.apk, and I do not know if this error is
directly linked to this problem, or if I also miss something else :
I/ActivityManager( 615): Starting activity: Intent {
action=android.intent.action.MAIN
categories={android.intent.category.LAUNCHER} flags=0x1020
comp={com.google.android.apps.maps/com.google.android.maps.MapsActivity}
}
I/ActivityManager( 615): Start proc com.google.android.apps.maps for
activity com.google.android.apps.maps/com.google.android.maps.MapsActivity:
pid=775 uid=10038 gids={3003}
I/ActivityThread( 775): Publishing provider
com.google.android.maps.SuggestionProvider:
com.google.android.maps.provider.MapsSuggestionProvider
I/ActivityThread( 775): Publishing provider
com.google.android.maps.SearchHistoryProvider:
com.google.android.maps.provider.SearchHistoryProvider
W/dalvikvm( 775): Unable to resolve superclass of
Lcom/google/android/maps/MapsActivity; (159)
W/dalvikvm( 775): Link of class 'Lcom/google/android/maps/MapsActivity;' failed
D/AndroidRuntime( 775): Shutting down VM
W/dalvikvm( 775): threadid=3: thread exiting with uncaught exception
(group=0x40010e28)
E/AndroidRuntime( 775): Uncaught handler: thread main exiting due to
uncaught exception
E/AndroidRuntime( 775): java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to
instantiate activity
ComponentInfo{com.google.android.apps.maps/com.google.android.maps.MapsActivity}:
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.google.android.maps.MapsActivity
in loader [EMA
Re: [Qt Extended] Mapping Demo (was Re: [FSO] Stability and other problems)
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Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 18:17, akurpiel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cédric Berger wrote:
>>
>> - Bluetooth is also working now (well I could not really test yet, but
>> at least now it correctly scans available bluetooth devices).
>>
>> - Still no luck with wifi ("unable to scan for networks").
>>
>> - I could not have GPS working.
>> I tried with GPSTracker, but it keeps asking for GPS activation, which
>> I had done in Android settings.
>> (note that GPSTracker requires a key from its website, and since I had
>> no keyboard to enter it, I did the settings on the emulator then copy
>> GPSTracker setting files directly into my SD card )
>>
>> - I tried the demo game "Fishocopter". It works... but it uses "back"
>> button to control the game (so it is "Aux" button on Neo), and I found
>> no way to exit the game, since Aux button did not anymore end
>> application.
>> Is there a way to kill such an application ? Power button only allowed
>> me to shutdown
>>
>
> - Blutetooth is working ( but we still need keyboard for secret pin)
> No hidd command - we cannot start play with BT keyboard.
>
> - Wifi is working " by hand":
>- copy working wpa_supplicant.conf to phone
>- login via adb shell
>- use commanddhcpcd eth0
>- check and write correct data to " getprop" and " sendprop ..."
>- included web browser not start at all
>- installed by "adb install ... "news reader is working !!
>
> - I think, important is: keyboard ( virtual or/and bluetooth ) and working
> web browser
>
Well yes I too was stopped by blutetooth pin without keyboard.
I could finally connect adb and get some logs. So :
- Browser fails at launch because of Gears.
I renamed /data/data/com.android.browser/app_plugins/gears.so into
gears.back and the browser could start.
I had no internet connectivity, so could not test much further, but
zooming, adding pages... worked.
- GPS : I tried GPSTracker and AccuTracking apps, and both fail with :
GPSTracker :
E/LocationManagerService( 614): isProviderEnabled got exception:
E/LocationManagerService( 614): java.lang.IllegalArgumentException:
provider=gps
AccuTracking :
D/LocationManagerService( 614): _requestLocationUpdates: listener =
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
E/LocationManagerService( 614): requestUpdates got exception:
E/LocationManagerService( 614): java.lang.IllegalArgumentException:
provider=gps
E/LocationManagerService( 614):at
com.android.server.LocationManagerService._requestLocationUpdates(LocationManagerService.java:759)
- I first had mms auto retrieve activated, so I had a lot of
exceptions logged about trying to get mms message. Anyway I have no
wap config done so it cannot work, but I do not know if enough is
implemented / ported for this to work...
- I also tried AndNav, but it looks like it fails because there is no
google map application in this released image. Is Map application not
published by google, or does it need some porting ?
log :
W/dalvikvm( 1104): VFY: unable to find class referenced in signature
(Lcom/google/android/maps/GeoPoint;)
W/dalvikvm( 1104): VFY: unable to resolve new-instance 134
(Lcom/google/android/maps/GeoPoint;) in Lorg/andnav/ui/Preferences;
W/dalvikvm( 1104): VFY: rejecting opcode 0x22 at 0x0026
W/dalvikvm( 1104): VFY: rejected
Lorg/andnav/ui/Preferences;.getHomeMapPoint
(Landroid/app/Activity;)Lcom/google/android/maps/GeoPoint;
W/dalvikvm( 1104): Verifier rejected class Lorg/andnav/ui/Preferences;
D/AndroidRuntime( 1104): Shutting down VM
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Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 17:47, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a particular magic needed to make this work? I got the jffs and > uImage from the page, flashed it on the Neo, and after reboot the screen > goes and remains black. A pretty shade of black, but still I had hoped > for a bit more... like less black. > if you did not install previous android image, check http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 . You must have an sd card with at least 2 partitions, the second being ext3 formatted. Android will write data on it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: power-on without battery!
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 13:14, Tony Berth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I keep the cover off in order to avoid that! > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Peter Nijs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I think you should be more concerned with the clips that hold the back >> cover >> on your phone. I only remove the cover (very carefully) when my phone >> freezes). >> >> It's also easier to find a new battery insted of finding a new back cover >> for >> the freerunner. >> I already have one of the little clips broken (bottom ones)... I will have to find a solution for when the second breaks... About battery, not only 100mA is not enough to boot, but even with 1A charger, it was stated that GSM module may require peak power up to about 2A, so battery cannot really be always out. About battery life, maybe the charge management code might also be tuned to be even more clever... (for example, a mode were battery life comes before charge speed). It should be possible to easily force slow charge even if wall charger is plugged in (1A is quite a lot for a battery). And maybe could use something like "pulse charging"... (I do not know what are -if any- the clever ways of charging this kind of battery) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [android] new version with page flipping corrected.
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 11:24, Cédric Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - I tried the demo game "Fishocopter". It works... but it uses "back" > button to control the game (so it is "Aux" button on Neo), and I found > no way to exit the game, since Aux button did not anymore end > application. > Is there a way to kill such an application ? Power button only allowed > me to shutdown > Looks like I did not try enough -my timings were not good enough I guess-. This time I managed to exit with power button hold for 2 seconds. (locks screen, then you're back to home). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[android] new version with page flipping corrected.
Hi,
Last android image/kernel from Sean
(http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/ ) indeed resolved the page
flipping problem. (screen refreshes "flashing", especially with
dialogs and combo box)
Thanks Sean !
- Bluetooth is also working now (well I could not really test yet, but
at least now it correctly scans available bluetooth devices).
- Still no luck with wifi ("unable to scan for networks").
- I could not have GPS working.
I tried with GPSTracker, but it keeps asking for GPS activation, which
I had done in Android settings.
(note that GPSTracker requires a key from its website, and since I had
no keyboard to enter it, I did the settings on the emulator then copy
GPSTracker setting files directly into my SD card )
- I tried the demo game "Fishocopter". It works... but it uses "back"
button to control the game (so it is "Aux" button on Neo), and I found
no way to exit the game, since Aux button did not anymore end
application.
Is there a way to kill such an application ? Power button only allowed
me to shutdown
(to install applications, since I could not have abd working, I
directly copy .apk files into my SD card under mmcblk0p2/app/ )
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Re: [android] SIM pin entry
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:27, Anders Kristiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, someone wrote something about the call volume being low, so I > guess it works for them.. > > But I get the same error :( Well I could place a call, but I had disabled PIN security before (from another distro or phone). GSM worked to call my voicemail, but I cannot run "search network" to register to another network. Maybe if you were not previously registered to correct network before (from another phone...), it might fail to register ? And keypad, though present and looking functional, did not issue dial tones during conversation. I could not activate my voicemail options ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[android] getting started
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 17:12, Alastair Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You will need an ext3 partition on mmcblk0p2 which will get a load of > stuff written to it. I just had to clean the bits it wrote out of my FSO > rootfs that was on that partition :-( I've changed it to mmcblk0p3 in > /init.rc on mine now. > > If it won't boot any more at some point it seems to be because of > something stored in this partition. Wipe out that data and it should > boot again. > Yes indeed, it writes a lot of thinks here, thanks... I'll try wipping this out... Still there seems to be a problem with battery status detection. After deleting its files on mmcblkop2, it booted again (but in the meanwhile my battery got charged to 80%). I'll see if it shut down again after a while when battery is half emptied, and if deleting again files changes anything in this case... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:28, Valerio Valerio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The problem should be in the uSd card, some guys in the IRC successfully > boot android with the default u-boot from may 08, and all only can do that > with the usd card inserted. > > One of them have this partitions on a 4gb card: > /dev/sdb1 1 2457832b W95 FAT32 > /dev/sdb2 246 124880 3988320 83 Linux > > Thanks to . Yes if I try without SD card, I stay with a black screen (but not shut off, backlight is on). And with SD card, I can boot (but, now, just to get the immediate "shutting down") My SD card is 8Gb : 4gb FAT with data and some uImage.bin, 1gb ext3, 512 ext3... and others ext3 partitions (can't remember :-p ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:19, Cédric Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And now I cannot boot successfully anymore (sometimes it shuts down > quite early during boot, sometimes just after android booting screen). > Just like if there was not enough battery... > I was running connected to usb (but on windows, not recognized, so > probably 100mA max). > Though booting into qtextended I can see that battery is about 50% > > (and trying to boot without SIM gave same result now, shut down soon > after android booting screen) > Maybe Android believe there not enough battery ? I got it charged to 62%, then booted again it got to android were it immediatly showed a popup "shutting down".. and shut down. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 16:08, Benedikt Bär <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 2008-11-04 at 15:48 +0100, Cédric Berger wrote: >> Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. > Hey Cédric, > > Do you still have that version around? Could you send it to us? > (please :P) > mmm... not sure were it can be... But I now have flashed latest from http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin (it still shows 23 sept. on uboot menu) It worked ok too... could boot at least twice. ... but after playing a while, my phone shut off suddenly (I had just selected "select network automatically" for GSM, searching was running...). And now I cannot boot successfully anymore (sometimes it shuts down quite early during boot, sometimes just after android booting screen). Just like if there was not enough battery... I was running connected to usb (but on windows, not recognized, so probably 100mA max). Though booting into qtextended I can see that battery is about 50% (and trying to boot without SIM gave same result now, shut down soon after android booting screen) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: VARTA Digital USB Charger
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 15:09, Radek Bartoň <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I've fully charged now the four AA cells of 2700 mAh and USB-out is >> working as it should; the battery.py shows 1000 mA charging rate; >> this pack of 4 cells each 2700 mAh give you around 10,000 mAh >> no, it would be 4*2700 mAH for 1,2V, but here you have still 2700mAh but for 4*1,2V=4,8V ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 15:43, Eildert Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 04 November 2008, Denis Galvão wrote: >> Could you send us your u-boot version? > its todays download from the daily build: > > gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 04-Nov-2008 01:46 211K > Mine (working ok) was 23 sept. (And I am updating to latest now) Note that I just tried booting from NOR u-boot and it goes to black screen. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:59, Hire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you get a black screen when FR boots? > How much time gets fr to boot? > I get a black screen, but not for long. Then there is a booting screen with "android" and two robots... I have no numbers, but looks like total boot time is not longer than with other distros. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:55, Eildert Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > black screen, with and without SIM card. > Cedrid, what did you do to get it going? > > This is a FR, first batch. > Just flashed downloaded kernel to NAND (dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-android), then rootfs (dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D androidfs.jffs2) my u-boot is about 3 weeks old as I can remember... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:39, Denis Galvão <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you running on Freerunner? > yes. One from the first production batchs. just flashed it via dfu-util (from windows). I have a 8gb SD card inserted (and detected by android) It looks not so bad ! I could phone my voicemail (sound level too low though). But I cannot set up USB networking (here I am under windows and it detects "ethernet gadget" but cannot install driver), though it worked with other distros. So I cannot try now any online stuff... I tried detecting wifi network (anyway I have only encrypted network at reach for now), but it looks like it cannot dectect any : "Unable to scan for networks". ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 14:16, Denis Galvão <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Same here, but I can ping 192.168.0.202. > It worked for me ! I can reach main menu, launch apps... note that here I started without SIM card... will try with it... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 16:58, Martin Vyšný <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Port done. Somebody build the images! :-) > http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/7be8ec2e4dae9fd6# > > http://benno.id.au/images/android_on_neo1973.jpg > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 > Ok, thanks to Sean first image is online ! http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Seanmcneil3 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 09:49, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Cédric Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> On my partition were I started from a 2008.8 base testing image + >> qtextended (and, before, qtopia 4.3.2), I kept doing opkg >> update/upgrade with not much trouble. >> > Did you install anything from there? How effective was upgrade? I did try > checking if opkg update worked, but as the internet connection was faulty at > that time, I couldn't get any results. > On the partition were I installed 2008.8 base testing, I added the qtextended binary package (/opt/Trolltech/), added /etc/init.d/qpe.sh and modified starting scripts to start it instead of xserver-nodm. I also added /etc/apm/suspend.d/gsm_suspend /etc/apm/resume.d/gsm_resume from qtextended rootfs. I do not know if there are more littles modification that would be usefull Upgrades worked about flawlessly (ie as well as on regular OM image...). I also simply ran "/etc/init.d/qpe.sh stop" then "/etc/init.d/xserver-nodm start" (and the other way around), so that I could switch between qtextended and OM 2008.8 under X. There I even installed a bunch of packages (but not qtopia X version !), that worked (well it does not work anymore for now, but I think it is OM testing updates that are not ok...). Only problem I had is xrandr could not set other resolution than 640*480, but it is probably Om testing base version that did not bring correct configuration to do that, and I didn't know what should be installed/configured to add other resolutions. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 09:44, Cédric Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since opkg config has been modified to target > download.openmoko.org/repository/testing/ , I thought that might > indicate rootfs was at least aligned with OM one... In fact I think that eventually, qtextended should really be based on OM image. It even should be available as an .opk package... (maybe with a script to select if you want to start X on boot, or qtextended ?) Anyway, Lorn won't not maintain a specific rootfs repository, and if corrections should be needed there is no reason for them to be kept in a separate branch form openmoko one... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 09:26, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Cédric Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Is this image now based on 2008.8 (base testing) ? >> I can see that opkg config files now target 2008.x testing repository. >> Should it be safe to opkg upgrade ? >> >> And could we know what modifications were made (or not) to "standard" >> OM rootfs ? >> > The opkg files have always targeted OM repositories. IMHO it would be very > dangerous to try anything from there, because of X. > Well previous qtopia images targeted OM repos, but buildhost ones (2007.2). (it was indicated somewhere that first rootfs were made starting from a FSO one). Since opkg config has been modified to target download.openmoko.org/repository/testing/ , I thought that might indicate rootfs was at least aligned with OM one... Anyway, it would be good to know what rootfs is really made of. And we should be able to install qtextended on a OM rootfs (in fact I did on one partition of my phone). X should not interfere here, at least as far as OM qtopia X packages are not installed. And I think they are not in OM base testing image, and of course neither in Trolltech's image. So opkg upgrade should not be dangerous. On my partition were I started from a 2008.8 base testing image + qtextended (and, before, qtopia 4.3.2), I kept doing opkg update/upgrade with not much trouble. There could be problems, though, if Trolltech image is not at all from OM rootfs, or if specific changes were made that would be lost or interfere with updated packages hence my question... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtExtended 4.4.2 Changes?
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 20:30, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: properly or the same problems? > > I forgot to add mwesters file system changes to this image. Hi, Is this image now based on 2008.8 (base testing) ? I can see that opkg config files now target 2008.x testing repository. Should it be safe to opkg upgrade ? And could we know what modifications were made (or not) to "standard" OM rootfs ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 23:21, Jim Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Was on IRC and someone said they had already ported the kernel, and was > working on a forum, just > FYI. We should all coordinate so there are not 10 different porting efforts :) > Also see thread on kernel list where Sean McNeil has already worked one it : http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1361683 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android open sourced
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 17:48, Didier Raboud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cédric Berger wrote: > >> Here we are >> > http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html >> >> time to port to Neo ! > > Hey... it says "open-source" (you can read the code) not "free software" > (you can do whatever you want)... > > http://code.google.com/android/terms.html tells : > >> 3.1 Subject to the terms of this License Agreement, Google grants you a >> limited, worldwide, royalty-free, non- assignable and non-exclusive >> license to use the SDK solely to develop applications to run on the >> Android platform. >> >> 3.2 (...) >> >> 3.3 Except to the extent required by applicable third party licenses, you >> may not copy (except for backup purposes), modify, adapt, redistribute, >> decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, or create derivative works of >> the SDK or any part of the SDK. > > and others, and others and others... restrictions... > > And for the code itself... > > http://source.android.com/license/individual-contributor-license---android-open-source-project > > You have to grant your copyright to Google... > > I don't want to work non-paid for Google. But please do ! ;) > I have not read all yet but " Android Open Source Project license The preferred license for the Android Open Source Project is Apache 2.0. Apache 2.0 is a commercial and open source friendly open source license. The majority of the Android platform is licensed under the Apache 2.0 license. While the project will strive to adhere to the preferred license, there may be exceptions which will be handled on a case-by-case basis. For example, the Linux kernel patches are under the GPLv2 license with system exceptions, which can be found on kernel.org . " So I guess it is open enough for you to modify it as you want. Probably it is if you want not to fork it that you must adhere to some google specific terms... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Android open sourced
Here we are http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-open-source-cell-phone.html time to port to Neo ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] AtChat talking every second to SIM
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:58, Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Matthias Apitz wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I was looking a bit through the output of logread and I'm asking me if > > it is normal (and necessary in the sense of power consumption) that 'qpe' > > is talking every second to the SIM to ask for the signal level of the GSM: > > > Any comment? Thx > > every second (or two, as the case may be) might be a bit extreme, but > this is just getting the signal quality. > I also noticed that without sim card, it keeps trying to communicate with it continuously. I do not know if it is resource consuming ? (is gsm off in such a case ? Or does it suck battery a little more ?) Polling SIM module wihtout card so often is not needed, especially since we cannot change SIM card without taking battery out (granted it could be done when plugged in) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Come to wiki to help improving user experience
On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 13:12, Wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > thanks for your help to collecting all the critical problems, it's helpful. > :) > > For more clear picture, we creat a page in our wiki to clean it up. > Please go to this page : > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Improving_user_experience > > You can vote to those issues or add other critical problems. > This will help us to verify the bugs and not lost our focus. > > Feel free to give us your question and suggestion. :) > How should we edit this ? (increase number of votes by one when either one yes or no column ? How should priority column be handled ?) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Back to the basics: improving user experience
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 20:20, Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > Suspend is quite good at the moment, but when the display is 'blanked' > > and the system is not in suspend, maybe pressing the 'power' button > > could wake up the screen instead. Now it wakes up and immediately > > suspends. > > 100% agreement. The "suspend on power button" is completely useless > for me. The machine suspends automatically anyway, so I don't need to > waste the precious few buttons we have on rare operations like > "explicitly request the machine to go to sleep". > I do not agree here, it is an important use case for me to easily force suspend. ex : to put phone in pocket. At the very least I must be able to immediatly lock screen, but it should then be able to automatically go to sleep even if screen keeps being touched (in pocket...). Wait time before blanking screen / going to suspend should also be decreased when screen is locked. With my dumb day to day phone, there no real suspend, but I can immediatly lock it via a long press to '#'. I do not have to look at the screen to do that, and once it is locked it quickly shut off screen backlight. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] new release 4.4.3
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Cédric Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> oups, sorry it is 4.3.3 ! :-p I'll check it closer before I update the >> correct partition on my phone... >> >> I tried to update my 4.3.3 version, but it doesn't start anymore. Looks like it complains that it should be installed in /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia instead of /opt/Nokia/Qtopia ! Is it on purpose ? (anyway qpe.sh script still uses QPEDIR=/opt/Nokia/Qtopia so it is messed up) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 12:06, Nishit Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I inserted the file in /usr/Trolltech/Qtopia/plugins/phonevendors/ on > qtextended. No change in the echo / buzzing problem for me, but then I > started to have problems with the phone going on unrecoverable standby, and > loss of audio (speaker, mic and ringtone, all together) when it could be > woken up. > I did not try this file, but I sometimes have these problems with qtextended... (sound lost, and sometimes unrecoverable standby) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] new release 4.4.3
oups, sorry it is 4.3.3 ! :-p I'll check it closer before I update the correct partition on my phone... On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 10:08, Cédric Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > HI,I just noticed a new release is available at > http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/ > > Is there any description about what was changed ? > > I'm gonna try it now... > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtextended] new release 4.4.3
HI,I just noticed a new release is available at http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/ Is there any description about what was changed ? I'm gonna try it now... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Echo issue on OM2008.08 solved
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 09:07, Nishit Dave > Whatever you and Lorn decide to do, when can we clueless users expect to > find it in updates for qtextended? > Is it not already in ? Looking at qtextended logs, to track my roaming problem, I could see the "AT%N0187" command passed to the modem. Also I experience almost no buzz sound since using qtextended (with mwester kernel). But I do not know if it is due to sound levels being different, or other settings... Well in fact I can't test anymore just now because my qtextended do not start anymore... stuck on PIN screen (even if PIN code not activated...). And I have the same problem on 2 separate partitions ! (second is with 2008.8 base rootfs + qtextended) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FR adapter - shocking experience!
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:32, Peter Fey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I got a shock when I unplugged the FR adapter because the > Europlug-USplug-adapter didn't stay in place. The latch holding it in place > was loose and my fingers touched the USplug while the Euro-End was still in > the wall outlet. This is my explanation for getting a shock, even though I > did not (want to) reproduce this. (also note the above posters names seem > European) First poster wrote that "It was fully out of the socket when I touched it!" ... I am interested to know if this can happen with our adapter... but this is not the kind of tests you are willing to do yourself :-p ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to export Vcf Contacts from FR?
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 16:33, Cédric Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I could not try yet, but in qtopia addressbook (at least in > Trolltech's 4.3.2 and 4.1.1), there is a menu "send all" to export to > vcard via sms/mail/bluetooth. > I do not know yet if it works ?.. > Export from qtopia 4.3.2, then import into qtextended 4.4.1 worked (both via bluetooth). (addressbook option send all -> bluetooth, then to import back, simply sent via bluetooth from the computer) (But it was a small address book) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko to shift to 2.6.27 kernel ?
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 09:34, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's planned for partition selection is you will in future be able to > press AUX while Qi is pulling in the kernel it selected to abort the > load and move to next usable partition, so I think multiboot will work > out fine if you can remember which "n'th" rootfs it is you want... > hopefully only a problem for people with >2. > But in this case will you have visual feedback on this partition switch ? For more complex multi-boots, could the solution be a partition booting a simple kernel and show a multi-boot screen, from were you can ask Qi to re-boot on a given other partition ? (or even simply continue with already loaded kernel if wanted) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Om2008.9] How to export Vcf Contacts from FR?
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 16:05, Timo Jyrinki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/10/10 Steven Goyvaerts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Does anyone know how to not only make a backup, but to export back to > VCF format from Qtopia/Om2008.8? I now added a section for it at > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts - the 2007.2 section > has a script that handles it. > > I wouldn't want to actively change the addressbook if I cannot export > from it to some standard format if I eg. change to FSO (or even back > to 200 I could not try yet, but in qtopia addressbook (at least in Trolltech's 4.3.2 and 4.1.1), there is a menu "send all" to export to vcard via sms/mail/bluetooth. I do not know yet if it works ?.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:43, David Garabana Barro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, no... > I only use that script to see current charge mode: > > fast_charge_gta02.sh status > > I can assure you that Neo puts itself into 1A charge mode when plugged to > tomtom car charger. > > I have never forced charge mode... it scares me ;) > Ok, thanks... Would be interesting if by chance you could check between the ID pin and ground if you have a resistance close to 4.7Kohm ...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 11:03, David Garabana Barro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 10 October 2008 10:22:39 Michele Renda wrote: >> Can you tell to me how do you find out the charge rate? >> > I use this one: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Forcing_fast_charge_mode#Beni.27s_fast_charge_gta02.sh > Ok, so in this case, it is not automatic. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: car charger
On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 07:25, Joel Newkirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just wanted to post that I received > http://www.cross-mark.com/charger-adapter-black-1000mah-p-962.html in the > mail today. The FreeRunner automatically kicks into 1000ma charge mode. Automatically 1A? Isn't it only possible with the 47k resistor on charger ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] After 4 days...
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 17:48, Russell Hay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I found it lasted around three hours (moderate usage) BUT I did have > Bluetooth and wifi turned on. Will try again tomorrow! > > Disappointed that it doesn't wake up from suspend on an incoming call - but > we can't have everything, can we? > Wake up on call /sms works pretty well for me. Still a lot of problems though (as reported by others too) Battery life is not too bad... even if sometimes it is suddenly emptied really quickly (even if I did not try to use wifi/bluetooth). And I often have to reboot into qtopia 4.3.2 just to force my GSM to register to my operator (once it has switch to roaming operator it comes into a very erratic behaviour and can't register elsewhere...) Also there is still the bug in vibrate only mode... when called it begins vibrating and only a shutdown can stop it... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtextended] problems with roaming
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 14:27, Cédric Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I will try, when I have time, to get both logs from qtopia 4.3.3 and
> qtextended 4.4.1 to compare AT commands when selecting an operator. (I
> noticed for example that 4.3.3 issued a ATE0 before AT+COPS=, and
> not 4.4.1)
>
> Also I do not know if in my qtopia 4.3.3, GSM noise reduction was
> activated, but it was on 4.4.1 ("AT%N0187")
>
Me again... looking at logs, it looks like in 4.4.1, GSM multiplexing
is used, and not in 4.3.2.
Is that right ?
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Re: [qtextended] problems with roaming
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 11:18, Cédric Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (this morning, only after a reboot and several tries I could manually
> select back the operator I wanted, from qtextended)
... but I realized once I was called that I had no sound anymore :-(
... another bug that appears sometimes since I try qtextended, but I
do not know yet when exactly... I had to reboot.
I will try, when I have time, to get both logs from qtopia 4.3.3 and
qtextended 4.4.1 to compare AT commands when selecting an operator. (I
noticed for example that 4.3.3 issued a ATE0 before AT+COPS=, and
not 4.4.1)
Also I do not know if in my qtopia 4.3.3, GSM noise reduction was
activated, but it was on 4.4.1 ("AT%N0187")
And since trying qtextended, I do not remember having the very
annoying buzz during calls ! Not tried enough to be sure though... I
must also check that people I call do not hear it either...
Is it only sound levels and echo adjustment that helped, or something
more was included in code ? (I use mwester kernel - 06 october-)
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[qtextended] problems with roaming
Hi, With 4.4.1 version I have problems when I have to switch GSM network. -> looks like it switches correctly (automatic mode) at first. Initialy registered on "SFR" (my provider), change to "Orange CH" was automatic. 1. Once it has switched to roaming network I hardly can select back another. if I go to "Select operator" : - sometimes it is stalled waiting for answer from modem (or maybe it did not really ask, since several times -not always-, in the log, the AT+COPS=? command was not even issued and GUI was waiting the response) - sometimes it says there was no operator found (response was immediate, looks like it did not even try to search) - when I can get to the list of available operators it fails selecting one : most of the time, it fails to register. Even if correct command AT+COPS=1,"20810" (as I remember) was issued, there was no response of operator selection in the logs. 2. Even if it stays in automatic mode, when I come back to a zone where only initial operator "SFR" is available, it fails to switch back and stays on (unavailable) "Orange CH". Even rebooting did not solved the problem and I had to reboot on another distro (qtopia 4.3.3) to switch operator. (this morning, only after a reboot and several tries I could manually select back the operator I wanted, from qtextended) 3. Once, it automaticaly switched to roaming network (and I indeed had the little triangular icon indicating roaming), BUT it continued to show incorrect label "SFR". Even in "Call Network"->"Current status" it said "SFR", "registered roaming" (inconsistent, in fact it was roaming but it was "Orange CH" that it was registered to). (A chance that the icon showed me there was a problem... I would have been charged a LOT calling from a roaming network instead of mine) I do not know if this may be related to the "bouncing calypso" problem (which it looks like have sometimes -not absolutly sure-). Note that with 4.3.3 version (after AT commands for manual selection were fixed about one month ago), roaming still works. (except simple "Search mode" change command that never worked) PS. not always easy to test, since it depends of network availability where you are... and on monday -I knew only the day after- there was even a country wide problem on SFR network to add to the difficulty to attribute responsability to erratic behaviours... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 08:10, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ummm. Nice try, but see the results below. I ran this remotely on my >> workstation at work, since it's right on a 20mb fiber... Hopefully I'll be >> allowed to use Google again by the time I get in to work tomorrow... ;) > > hmm. looks like we need a botnet to distribute the queries! :) each bot does > 1000 of them... :) > Or maybe it is possible to ask google to be allowed to do such a task ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: one day usage of qtextended: auto power-on?
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:22, Franky Van Liedekerke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just found out something new: I took my sim out of the cell phone > this night and didn't turn on the phone afterwards. This morning > however the phone was in suspended state?? It seems to have auto-powered > on at 06:00 this morning? Is it supposed to do that? > It is not the first time I noticed this, but I always figured it was > me, but this time I'm pretty sure I didn't power it on myself. > I'm not even sure it is related to qtextended for this matter. > Your phone probably started when you put back the battery in. I do not know when exactly it does this... but I know mine sometime does. Was your phone plugged in (wall charger...) ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: How to build qt-extended?
> > OpenSSL support . no > > Is the SSL support activated in the released image on qtextended.org ? I guess it is still needed for ie. encrypted IMAP ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended | Now Released!
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 13:03, Russell Hay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > what the link to a kernel image for it? > >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Tobias Kündig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >> >>> It's out! >>> >>> http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/ >>> >>> And how can we keep our data ? Can we keep current /home, or just qtopia database, or do we have to migrate it manually ? what about the root file system in this release ? Same as previous, or aligned on 2008.9 ? Personnaly I currently use previous Qtopia on top of 2008.8 -updated to test releases-. Is there something special to do to add qtopia to a standard 2008.9 distribution (maybe at least without X11 qtopia packages) ? Lorn said that qtopia 4.4 should allow having an .opk to install/upgrade... is it available ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Rasterman Image...
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 05:57, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > you will know its not > there when its not offered as a correction in the short or long list. you > get > to delete what u typed and type again carefully. you only need to do this > once. > then it goes into the dict. > > [...] seriously - as an experiment, when you type a word and it "gets the guess > wrong" pop up the full list and at the top is EXACTLY what you typed. [..] What I really miss is having what I really typed be immediatly available as an option (ie not having to pop up a list). Personnaly I would even prefer by far (but might be an option) that what I type is what is selected by default, and a "computed" word is shown in the box that I can choose instead, if I want... and even writing english text messages, it is too often I have to enter unknown names, locations, emails, whatever ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtopia 4.4 - Qt Extended ?
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 13:50, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is has been renamed to Qt Extended right now, isn't it? > > However there are some very interesting videos on the net [1] renamed indeed... I had not seen this before : http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/09/28/qt-extended/ Hey Lorn... you did not post this info on this list ? Is that because of this : "Changes in my job from Qtopia Community Liasion to Software Engineer" ?... so we won't be in touch with you as often as before ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] First rumors about first Google phone
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 15:46, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Even if the code is open, will the hardware be? The hardware could > easily check if the software has been changed and then cut power. > What is interesting is that the code is open so that you can port it a more open hardware (Neo !) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
