Now my lovely lil' Neo is back, and is (as far as I can tell)
buzz-free. Thanks a lot guys.
These are initiatives that makes me happy I bought an FR, no matter
how many problems occured/still occurs.
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Now my lovely lil' Neo is back, and is (as far as I can tell)
buzz-free. Thanks a lot guys.
These are initiatives that makes me happy I bought an FR, no matter
how many problems occured/still occurs.
Mine is back too, after a nice trip to Germany... it just told
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While it took a bit longer than I had originally expected, I'm now proud
owner of a buzz-free Freerunner :D
Congrats to Dr. Schaller for making this happen - and congrats for OM
for supporting this. Let's all not forget that other phones have
I would like to thank all the people involved in buzz fixing too!
You made a very good point a lot of people are forgetting about that
other phones are not without the problems.
We just don't know about most of them because there is no strong
community around them.
With the openmoko community it
Hi,
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
[debuzzing in the UK]
http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework
Just as far as your nearest Royal Mail...
I'd just like to say that I sent my phone to Dr. N. for
debuzzing (I live in the UK) and he was friendly and
helpful.
If everyone
Hi all,
It's been a while since I looked at getting the buzz on my FreeRunner
fixed up, after having no luck finding anyone with the right equipment
to be able to perform it amongst local friends and contacts, so I
figured I'd throw a message out on here to see if anyone can point me in
the
http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework
Just as far as your nearest Royal Mail...
BR, Nikolaus
Am 10.06.2009 um 09:08 schrieb Dave Smith:
Hi all,
It's been a while since I looked at getting the buzz on my FreeRunner
fixed up, after having no luck finding anyone with the
Many thanks.
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework
Just as far as your nearest Royal Mail...
BR, Nikolaus
Am 10.06.2009 um 09:08 schrieb Dave Smith:
Hi all,
It's been a while since I looked at getting the buzz on my FreeRunner
nice one. I'd been wondering about that.
Tim Abell
Berks, UK
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework
Just as far as your nearest Royal Mail...
BR, Nikolaus
Am 10.06.2009 um 09:08 schrieb Dave Smith:
Hi all,
It's been a while since I
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Am 30.05.2009 15:17, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schrieb:
Am 29.05.2009 um 17:24 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
I should add the status of the Buzz-Rework:
* I have received back today all devices that we have received so far
until approx.
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schrieb:
Dear community,
it is the philisophy of Golden Delicious Computers to find solutions
for important topics that the community has and can't solve alone.
Therefore, we (Golden Delicious Computers and TRIsoft) have worked
behind the scenes and are close
Thanks to a very special delivery service by Dr.N himself (thanks again,
and sorry for the inconvenience that followed!) I was able to test my
Buzz-Fixed FR over the weekend and must say I am quite impressed: With a new
alsa statefile nobody was complaining about buzz, echo or general lack of
Joerg, Dr. N and I have been discussing this. There is no need for the
HWD fix of 1024 as there is a software fix.
The hwdware fix of 1024 would require much more work than the
debuzzing. Joerg recommends against it.
I would agree. I can have him come on here and explain. Even if the fix
were
Steve Mosher wrote:
Joerg, Dr. N and I have been discussing this. There is no need for the
HWD fix of 1024 as there is a software fix.
The hwdware fix of 1024 would require much more work than the
debuzzing. Joerg recommends against it.
I would agree. I can have him come on here
as there is a software fix.
imo it is still a workaround, not a fix.
and standby time jumping up 25% looks a lot to me.
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Am 01.06.2009 um 10:46 schrieb arne anka:
as there is a software fix.
imo it is still a workaround, not a fix.
For the GSM-Buzz there was not even a SW workaround for those who have
been affected. So it had to be fixed.
We have estimated that reworking the #1024 is at least 4 times as
Am 01.06.2009 um 13:16 schrieb Paul Fertser:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org writes:
and standby time jumping up 25% looks a lot to me.
If you find a way to DIY to gain these 25%, please share with us.
In fact overall time required for hand rework is roughly equal for
both buzz
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org writes:
In fact overall time required for hand rework is roughly equal for
both buzz and #1024 fixes. If one has already dismounted the can
The key difference is the word if already dismounted the can.
I would require those who wants that #1024
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote:
Joerg, Dr. N and I have been discussing this. There is no need for the
HWD fix of 1024 as there is a software fix.
The hwdware fix of 1024 would require much more work than the
debuzzing. Joerg recommends against it.
I
Agreed. I've not heard about the jump in standby time, but joerg
mentioned something about that ( as i recall).
arne anka wrote:
as there is a software fix.
imo it is still a workaround, not a fix.
and standby time jumping up 25% looks a lot to me.
Hmm.. You say that the buzz rework is only required by people who have the
buzz problem.How do we tell the difference between the buzz problem and
a badly tuned gsmhandset.state?
My situation is that when I talk to people on the FR I generally hear them
very clearly, but they get a lot of
, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote:
Joerg, Dr. N and I have been discussing this. There is no need for the
HWD fix of 1024 as there is a software fix.
The hwdware fix of 1024 would require much more work than the
debuzzing. Joerg recommends against it.
I would agree. I
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote:
Getting a focused effort in the US has been problematic. The reason is
simple. The vast majority of sales in the US have been through the OM
store. The disty, therefore, don't have the same motivation that say
Dr. N has.
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Aother note to all who read this: the Buzz rework is only required if
you have the Buzz problem.
Hmm, wasn't there an environmental component as well, i.e., band and
signal strength ? So changes in the network, e.g., traveling, moving,
or the provider messing
Werner Almesberger wer...@openmoko.org writes:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Aother note to all who read this: the Buzz rework is only required if
you have the Buzz problem.
Hmm, wasn't there an environmental component as well, i.e., band and
signal strength ? So changes in the network,
Aother note to all who read this: the Buzz rework is only required if
you have the Buzz problem.
Hmm, wasn't there an environmental component as well, i.e., band and
signal strength ? So changes in the network, e.g., traveling, moving,
or the provider messing with things, might bring buzz to
See inline below
Ori Pessach wrote:
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Steve Mosher st...@openmoko.com wrote:
Getting a focused effort in the US has been problematic. The reason is
simple. The vast majority of sales in the US have been through the OM
store. The disty, therefore, don't have
YA,
When I first started putting the program together I asked Tony Tu to
get me a test protocal for incoming. Engineering ( and others) then
pointed out that the Buzz problem was conditioned by enviromental
factors that we CND ( could not duplicate) such that a phone with Buzz
in the feild
in for the debuzzing fix, but the latter case
would obviously have my preference :-)
Kind regards,
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of us which think that this is a
very good question.
I'm considering sending my FR in for the debuzzing fix, but the latter case
would obviously have my preference :-)
;-) same here. I'll most probably send my FR for debuzzing, however IF I
can send it only once that would be awesome.
Kind
Am 29.05.2009 um 17:24 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
I should add the status of the Buzz-Rework:
* I have received back today all devices that we have received so far
until approx. beginning of this week. They will now go to testing and
then shipment.
All units have passed the tests
Hello Nikolaus,
what are the odds of including the hw fix for bug #1024 (oscillating
recamping) into the procedure once it's official (or even before that)?
I'm trying to decide if I wait a little bit more with sending in my FR to
squash both issues at the same time.
Regards,
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what are the odds of including the hw fix for bug #1024 (oscillating
for those wondering like me:
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html
seems, finally for the recamping a fix has been found. a new round of
fix-parties is to be expected, i assume.
I can ask Openmoko if I can get the batteries for the buzz fixes I've
been doing (round about 70 now) and then send them out. I doubt they
that certainly would be nice!
will ship directly to you because of the overhead involved.
which means overhead for you ...
Am 23.05.2009 um 18:30 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
Am 23.05.2009 um 14:04 schrieb Yorick Moko:
any news on the repair?
Rework has been started this week and the first units have been
shipped back.
A second batch has been reworked. I will test devices tomorrow and
then ship out.
Hello,
On Fri, 08 May 2009 10:24:58 +0200
Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
Timo Jyrinki wrote:
2009/5/8 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org:
The rework itself is essentially for free and Openmoko
provides an additional free battery to make good your efforts and
the time
and get 4 batteries ?
I don't know why we need to send them seperately for our free batteries.
- varacanero
Jon Levell schrieb:
Hi,
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
[blank screen when ordering a debuzzing]
Not generally. Several people have reported a blank screen that is
only shown
different thing.
Maybe someone from Eindhoven has a Debug Board and can help you?
Am 14.05.2009 um 14:12 schrieb Atilla Filiz:
Hello;
Is it possible to ask for any other minor fix along with debuzzing? My
device came with blank NOR and I don't want to buy a debug board just to use
once. I don't
Am 23.05.2009 um 14:04 schrieb Yorick Moko:
any news on the repair?
Rework has been started this week and the first units have been
shipped back.
my order status says for quite some time 'Freerunner received.'
is everything going according to shedule?
Mostly.
We did have a public holiday
thanks for the update!
i'm gonna miss the buzz ;-)
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
h...@computer.org wrote:
Am 23.05.2009 um 14:04 schrieb Yorick Moko:
any news on the repair?
Rework has been started this week and the first units have been
shipped back.
my order
When OM throws a party nobody leaves with a buzz.
Yorick Moko wrote:
thanks for the update!
i'm gonna miss the buzz ;-)
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
h...@computer.org wrote:
Am 23.05.2009 um 14:04 schrieb Yorick Moko:
any news on the repair?
Am 23.05.2009 um 19:44 schrieb Yorick Moko:
thanks for the update!
i'm gonna miss the buzz ;-)
Shouldn't be difficult to mix it into the audio path by some open
source software :)
Maybe, someone has a nice buzz-audio theme file.
On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
El Thursday, 14 de May de 2009 23:55:48 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra va escriure:
Guys, we're few (but good), can we get some highly skilled solder artisan
to help with the debuzzing for our phones?
In Caceres Debconf will be a Buzz Fix party. If you cannot be there I sugest
you to contact David
Dear all,
since some of you did not receive our mails (spam filters are
sometimes too critical), here a status update:
* components have been released by customs and have finally arrived
* so you can now send devices to us
* please follow the rework service instructions (e.g. just send the
what will be the price of the re-work?
Mentioning 'Hermes', you mean these guys: http://www.hermespaketshop.de/
Thanks
Tony
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org
wrote:
Dear all,since some of you did not receive our mails (spam filters are
sometimes
Hello;
Is it possible to ask for any other minor fix along with debuzzing? My
device came with blank NOR and I don't want to buy a debug board just to use
once. I don't mind paying a few extra €s.
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Am 14.05.2009 um 12:26 schrieb Tony Berth:
what will be the price of the re-work?
Please refer for all detauls to
http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework
Mentioning 'Hermes', you mean these guys: http://www.hermespaketshop.de/
Yes, but I think they
Unfortunately no since flashing a blank NOR is a completely different
thing. Maybe someone from Eindhoven has a Debug Board and can help you?
Am 14.05.2009 um 14:12 schrieb Atilla Filiz:
Hello;
Is it possible to ask for any other minor fix along with debuzzing?
My device came with blank
Guys, we're few (but good), can we get some highly skilled solder artisan
to help with the debuzzing for our phones?
The only way my GTA02v5 is loud enough to be called normal does carry along
a huge buzz...
Rui
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В Птн, 08/05/2009 в 10:24 +0200, Pander пишет:
I had my phone recently fixed in a fix party in Germany. Do I also get a
free battery?
I'm also interested in this one - should I attend buzz-fix party and get
free battery somehow or it's better to buzz-fix via Nikolaus offer
(Pulster if I'm not
Am 13.05.2009 um 12:26 schrieb Max:
В Птн, 08/05/2009 в 10:24 +0200, Pander пишет:
I had my phone recently fixed in a fix party in Germany. Do I also
get a
free battery?
I'm also interested in this one - should I attend buzz-fix party and
get
free battery somehow or it's better to
The free battery is a courtesy from Openmoko and is included in both
approaches. OM sends a set of spare batteries to the one who organizes
a party. He hands them out to you during that party. But I don't know
if it applies to I had my phone recently fixed in a fix party in
Germany or just to
Will we get a notification when Golden Delicious has recieved our device?
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:45 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:
The free battery is a courtesy from Openmoko and is included in both
approaches. OM sends a set of spare batteries to the one who organizes
a party.
From:
http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Buzz-Rework
When choosing a parcel service, please choose one that allows you to track
your parcel since we are not responsible for incoming parcels.
Since we already have to sent it with the service with tracking there is no
point in GD
Am 08.05.2009 um 21:46 schrieb Jon Levell:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
expenses. The rework itself is essentially for free and Openmoko
provides an additional free battery to make good your efforts and the
time you don't have the Freerunner to use.
I've tried to order this but when I
Hi,
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
[blank screen when ordering a debuzzing]
Not generally. Several people have reported a blank screen that is
only shown on the first attempt. But we can't debug that easily,
because it appears only for real payments and not in debug mode.
I'll e-mail you
2009/5/8 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org:
The rework itself is essentially for free and Openmoko
provides an additional free battery to make good your efforts and the
time you don't have the Freerunner to use.
I agree that this is _the_ deal for anyone in EU. Getting a new
battery
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) ha scritto:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
2) Therefore we plan to offer this service to all Openmoko owners
within the EU harmonized market / tax union (to avoid re-import/export
hassle). Please note that there will be a rework fee. The final price
is not
Timo Jyrinki wrote:
2009/5/8 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org:
The rework itself is essentially for free and Openmoko
provides an additional free battery to make good your efforts and the
time you don't have the Freerunner to use.
I agree that this is _the_ deal for anyone in EU.
Am 08.05.2009 um 09:52 schrieb DJDAS:
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) ha scritto:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
2) Therefore we plan to offer this service to all Openmoko owners
within the EU harmonized market / tax union (to avoid re-import/
export
hassle). Please note that there will be a
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
expenses. The rework itself is essentially for free and Openmoko
provides an additional free battery to make good your efforts and the
time you don't have the Freerunner to use.
I've tried to order this but when I try and pay via a credit card, I
get a
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Am 30.04.2009 um 16:17 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
Am 28.04.2009 um 22:30 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
Dear community,
it is the philisophy of Golden Delicious Computers to find
solutions for important topics that the community has and can't
solve alone. Therefore, we
Hi
Is it possible to bring the devices to you in person? This could save
shipping costs for all of us who can use the S-Bahn without additional
costs or pass the A995 regularly since it's about 1 km from the next
S-Bahn station (Deisenhofen) or less than 4 km from the A995 to your
address in
On Wednesday 06 May 2009 22:23:23 Korbinian Rosenegger wrote:
Is it possible to bring the devices to you in person?
I'm interested too as I don't live too far. Moreover the packing for delivery
in person is far easier to do than the post one :)
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Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
2) Therefore we plan to offer this service to all Openmoko owners
within the EU harmonized market / tax union (to avoid re-import/export
hassle). Please note that there will be a rework fee. The final price
is not yet clear (expected to be less than 30 EUR
Am 06.05.2009 um 22:23 schrieb Korbinian Rosenegger:
Hi
Is it possible to bring the devices to you in person? This could save
shipping costs for all of us who can use the S-Bahn without additional
costs or pass the A995 regularly since it's about 1 km from the next
S-Bahn station
Am 28.04.2009 um 22:30 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
Dear community,
it is the philisophy of Golden Delicious Computers to find solutions
for important topics that the community has and can't solve alone.
Therefore, we (Golden Delicious Computers and TRIsoft) have worked
behind
Are there any limitations on shipment?
As fas as I understand you can rework only batches of phones, so if let's
say someones sent it extra fast second day shipment they still will have to
wait for others that have sent phones by extra slow shipment. Right?
Are there any limitations by which date
Am 30.04.2009 um 16:53 schrieb Leonti Bielski:
Are there any limitations on shipment?
As fas as I understand you can rework only batches of phones, so if
let's say someones sent it extra fast second day shipment they still
will have to wait for others that have sent phones by extra slow
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
h...@computer.org wrote:
Am 28.04.2009 um 22:30 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
2) Therefore we plan to offer this service to all Openmoko owners
within the EU harmonized market / tax union (to avoid re-import/
export hassle).
Understood.
Just bought a rework :)
Another question - you said that phones will be tested, so it got me
thinking - will you have any requirements on distribution installed on
phone?
Leonti
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
h...@computer.orgwrote:
Am 30.04.2009 um
Hi,
This page has now become an order page. Please purchase the service.
You talk about the fact that The 2 way shipping cost will be covered by
the customer. how is this done? Is the 3 euro for sending back the
device? Or are we charged when the device gets returned?
Kind regards,
Michel
When you buy it shipping cost is added to your order. Total cost will be
about 13 euros. It's repairing + sending back.
Plus you'll have to send it to them buy the shipping of your choice.
Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Leonti
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Michel mic...@xternal.nl
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Dear community,
it is the philisophy of Golden Delicious Computers to find solutions
for important topics that the community has and can't solve alone.
Therefore, we (Golden Delicious Computers and TRIsoft) have worked
behind the scenes and are close to
Am 29.04.2009 um 10:44 schrieb Helge Hafting:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Dear community,
it is the philisophy of Golden Delicious Computers to find solutions
for important topics that the community has and can't solve alone.
Therefore, we (Golden Delicious Computers and TRIsoft) have
And what about the sd-card??
that is a very easy fix to do
Joerg advised to fix it also
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
h...@computer.org wrote:
Am 29.04.2009 um 10:44 schrieb Helge Hafting:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Dear community,
it is the philisophy of
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller ha scritto:
Dear community,
2) Therefore we plan to offer this service to all Openmoko owners
within the EU harmonized market / tax union (to avoid re-import/export
hassle). Please note that there will be a rework fee. The final price
is not yet clear
Am 29.04.2009 um 14:28 schrieb Yorick Moko:
And what about the sd-card??
that is a very easy fix to do
Joerg advised to fix it also
It is not really necessary to do that when using a more recent kernel
that can switch off the SD card clock:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPS_Problems
But
I know the kernel does that,
but I normally boot from SD card,
and when using gps i normally use maps, which are located on the SD card
I think most people will use maps from the sd card and a fair amount
boots regulary from SD
thanks for taking it into consideration
y
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at
On Wednesday 29 April 2009, Yorick Moko wrote:
I know the kernel does that,
but I normally boot from SD card,
and when using gps i normally use maps, which are located on the SD card
In my experience the capacitor isn't needed. I don't have it, have both maps
and rootfs on SD, and don't have
Dear community,
it is the philisophy of Golden Delicious Computers to find solutions
for important topics that the community has and can't solve alone.
Therefore, we (Golden Delicious Computers and TRIsoft) have worked
behind the scenes and are close to offer a Buzz rework solution that
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