Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

2012-03-02 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 02.03.2012 um 13:45 schrieb Patryk Benderz: [cut] Openmoko had the same problem. It was gta02-core project that pioneered an effort to convert the gta02 schematics to kicad format and improved kicad in the process. I am sorry, you are right, thanks for correcting me. Anyway my point

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

2012-03-02 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] Yes, sure. The requirements to the design tool for such an adapter board are not heavy. It can be done on 2 layers in 6 mil traces. So I am sure you can design such adapters with KiCAD. Seems I was not clear enough. Can Timo Juhani Lindfors use KiCAD to open GTA04 schematics?

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

2012-03-02 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 02.03.2012 um 17:26 schrieb Patryk Benderz: [cut] Yes, sure. The requirements to the design tool for such an adapter board are not heavy. It can be done on 2 layers in 6 mil traces. So I am sure you can design such adapters with KiCAD. Seems I was not clear enough. Can Timo Juhani

Re: GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

2012-03-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com writes: We now have released the schematics and board file of such an expander board (EAGLE 5.x format). I understood that it was not possible to open EAGLE files with free software. Is this still the case?

Re: GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

2012-03-01 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
The GTA04 is not only designed as a motherboard replacement for the Openmoko devices, but also as a core module to easily develop other devices from it. /me is interested if it is possible to put this into case of any currently-on-market phone with hardware keyboard (perhaps throwing away

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

2012-03-01 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 01.03.2012 um 11:20 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com writes: We now have released the schematics and board file of such an expander board (EAGLE 5.x format). I understood that it was not possible to open EAGLE files with free software. Is this

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

2012-03-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com writes: There is a free (as in free beer) version of EAGLE with minor limitations. And any major CAD tool can import it. At least two years ago when I was trying to find software that can open EAGLE files for Arduino boards I could not find any free

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

2012-03-01 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
At least two years ago when I was trying to find software that can open EAGLE files for Arduino boards I could not find any free software to do that. Maybe all the major CAD tools are non-free? The two major professional and free EDA tools for PCBs are 1. KiCad http://kicad.sourceforge.net 2.

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

2012-03-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Wolfgang Spraul wolfg...@sharism.cc writes: At least two years ago when I was trying to find software that can open EAGLE files for Arduino boards I could not find any free software to do that. Maybe all the major CAD tools are non-free? The two major professional and free EDA tools for PCBs

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

2012-03-01 Thread Gilles Filippini
Timo Juhani Lindfors a écrit , Le 01/03/2012 13:40: Wolfgang Spraul wolfg...@sharism.cc writes: At least two years ago when I was trying to find software that can open EAGLE files for Arduino boards I could not find any free software to do that. Maybe all the major CAD tools are non-free?

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

2012-03-01 Thread Gilles Filippini
Gilles Filippini a écrit , Le 01/03/2012 22:04: The is a free light version of EAGLE in Debian. $ apt-cache show eagle Package: eagle Version: 5.12.0-1 [...] Description-en: Printed circuit board design tool Eagle includes a layout editor, schematic editor, and an autorouter. The

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

2012-03-01 Thread Fox Mulder
Am 01.03.2012 22:07, schrieb Gilles Filippini: Gilles Filippini a écrit , Le 01/03/2012 22:04: The is a free light version of EAGLE in Debian. $ apt-cache show eagle Package: eagle Version: 5.12.0-1 [...] Description-en: Printed circuit board design tool Eagle includes a layout editor,

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

2012-03-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Gilles Filippini p...@debian.org writes: The is a free light version of EAGLE in Debian. You mean the one that is in the non-free section? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

2012-03-01 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: You can just install latest eagle 6.1 (win, linux, mac) and use it with light license for free which limits to 100x80mm board size and 2 layers. This freeware version exists as long as i can remember for eagle. :) I don't want limits, sorry :-)

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

2012-03-01 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 01.03.2012 um 22:47 schrieb Fox Mulder: Am 01.03.2012 22:07, schrieb Gilles Filippini: Gilles Filippini a écrit , Le 01/03/2012 22:04: The is a free light version of EAGLE in Debian. $ apt-cache show eagle Package: eagle Version: 5.12.0-1 [...] Description-en: Printed circuit board

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04-Custom: EAGLE schematics and board file blueprint for developing expansion/adapter boards

2012-03-01 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 01.03.2012 um 22:59 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes: You can just install latest eagle 6.1 (win, linux, mac) and use it with light license for free which limits to 100x80mm board size and 2 layers. This freeware version exists as long as i can remember

Re: [Gta04-owner] How to bring forward the community?

2012-02-29 Thread NeilBrown
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:38:23 + Neil Jerram n...@ossau.homelinux.net wrote: For me, the fun is in trying to put bits of software together to make a useful and interesting phone/gadget, and in understanding (up to a point) how it all works. Me too. It isn't about being better than Android,

Re: [Gta04-owner] How to bring forward the community?

2012-02-27 Thread Lukas Märdian
Hi. On 27.02.2012 11:35, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: So I would like to encourage to share what you are working on (kernel? driver? user space?) and what you think would bring forward the Openmoko community a small or big step.. Any idea is welcome (even if you think we already know about

Re: [Gta04-owner] How to bring forward the community?

2012-02-27 Thread Joerg Eesmann
Hi, for me the biggest problem in GTA02 is the sound quality in calls. And it seems to be, that there are problems with echo in GTA04, too. But GTA04 is OMAP3 based, and OMAP3 has a DSP on board. In the beagleboard, there was a SW-component called DSP-bridge, and when I recall correctly the DSP

Re: [Gta04-owner] How to bring forward the community?

2012-02-27 Thread NeilBrown
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:36:50 + Neil Jerram n...@ossau.homelinux.net wrote: rhn omcomali@porcupinefactory.org writes: Having an easy way to build and share programs (without the need of an entire distribution checkout like SHR needed if I remember right) would also help. Native

Re: GTA04 publicity

2012-02-09 Thread ml
On 08.02.2012 15:22, Niels Heyvaert wrote: Next to the post on Linuxfordevices, we now also have an entry in the newsfeeds of Tuxmobil.org. Heise online also wrote an article (german): http://heise.de/-1429962 Check it out and spread the word. Christoph

Re: GTA04 publicity

2012-02-09 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 09.02.2012 um 09:54 schrieb m...@chonyota.net: On 08.02.2012 15:22, Niels Heyvaert wrote: Next to the post on Linuxfordevices, we now also have an entry in the newsfeeds of Tuxmobil.org. Heise online also wrote an article (german): http://heise.de/-1429962 I also did find an english

Re: GTA04 publicity

2012-02-09 Thread elhennig
Bei Golem ist die Meldung auch aufgeschlagen: http://www.golem.de/news/openmoko-neue-platine-fuer-neo-freerunner-zu-kaufen-1202-89659.html Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com hat am 9. Februar 2012 um 10:03 geschrieben: Am 09.02.2012 um 09:54 schrieb m...@chonyota.net: On

Re: [Gta04-owner] Flyer for FOSDEM (PDF and ODP)

2012-02-03 Thread NeilBrown
On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 08:39:26 +0100 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Here are the files for the Flyer we will spread at FOSDEM. So if anyone needs materials or wants to distribute in his/her area: http://download.goldelico.com/gta04/Marketing/ Nice. By the

Re: [Gta04-owner] Flyer for FOSDEM (PDF and ODP)

2012-02-03 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 03.02.2012 um 09:44 schrieb NeilBrown: On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 08:39:26 +0100 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Here are the files for the Flyer we will spread at FOSDEM. So if anyone needs materials or wants to distribute in his/her area:

Re: GTA04 in the Press at Linuxfordevices

2012-02-03 Thread urodelo
Well done! urodelo On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 09:00:18 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Golden-Delicious-Openmoko-GTA04/ -- 用斯斯! ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04A4 starts shipping tomorrow

2012-02-01 Thread Gennady Kupava
On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 08:08 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Here: Last login: Wed Feb 1 06:58:19 2012 from 192.168.0.200 gta04:~# hdparm -t /dev/mmcblk0 /dev/mmcblk0: Timing buffered disk reads: 56 MB in 3.09 seconds = 18.12 MB/sec gta04:~# So it appears that the SD

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04A4 starts shipping tomorrow

2012-01-31 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 31.01.2012 um 15:30 schrieb Gennady.Kupava: Hello, Nikolaus, В Пнд, 30/01/2012 в 21:13 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller пишет: After 3 days of intensive research (incl. this weekend) we did find the root cause: it is the same as it was for the GTA02A5 board [1]. The SD card clock. It

Re: [Gta04-owner] QtMoko v38 for GTA04 with suspend and GSM calls

2012-01-31 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
hi, how did you get suspend working reliabily? personally I've that: [ 406.115966] platform l3_main.0: LATE power domain suspend [ 406.121612] platform iva.0: LATE power domain suspend

Re: [Gta04-owner] QtMoko v38 for GTA04 with suspend and GSM calls

2012-01-31 Thread Radek Polak
On Tuesday 31 January 2012 18:00:13 Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: hi, how did you get suspend working reliabily? personally I've that: [ 406.115966] platform l3_main.0: LATE power domain suspend [ 406.121612] platform iva.0: LATE power domain suspend [ 406.126892] platform mpu.0: LATE

Re: [Gta04-owner] QtMoko v38 for GTA04 with suspend and GSM calls

2012-01-31 Thread NeilBrown
On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:00:13 +0100 Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org wrote: hi, how did you get suspend working reliabily? personally I've that: [ 406.115966] platform l3_main.0: LATE power domain suspend [ 406.121612]

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04A4 starts shipping tomorrow

2012-01-31 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 31.01.2012 um 11:53 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Am 31.01.2012 um 15:30 schrieb Gennady.Kupava: As i were always wondering about SD reading issues in GTA02, which rises voltage in driver with reduced clock at beginning, and is not working at This is a patch in the GTA02 kernel to

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04: gyroscope and compass drivers added/made working

2012-01-26 Thread Neil Jerram
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com writes: Now we have all sensors working: Accelerometer, Barometer, Gyroscope, Compass, Touch screen. And some of them even have a built-in thermometer. Can I just check: I don't believe my GTA04A3 has any of these sensors, because I didn't explicitly

Re: [Gta04-owner] Openmoko Community Survey 2011 ? Results

2012-01-17 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, January 17, 2012 a las 11:49:00AM +0100, Christoph Pulster escribió: A lot of people gave up and do not want Openmoko phone anymore. The marketing of Openmoko Inc. failed. It was a short-sighted idee to push the news with first open source mobile / free your phone. It

Re: [Gta04-owner] Openmoko Community Survey 2011 ? Results

2012-01-17 Thread Philip Rhoades
People, On 2012-01-17 22:16, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, January 17, 2012 a las 11:49:00AM +0100, Christoph Pulster escribió: A lot of people gave up and do not want Openmoko phone anymore. The marketing of Openmoko Inc. failed. It was a short-sighted idee to push the news with

Re: [Gta04-owner] Openmoko Community Survey 2011 ? Results

2012-01-17 Thread Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller
Am 17.01.2012 um 11:49 schrieb Christoph Pulster: A lot of people gave up and do not want Openmoko phone anymore. The marketing of Openmoko Inc. failed. It was a short-sighted idee to push the news with first open source mobile / free your phone. It resulted in c. 15000 sold units, which

Re: [Gta04-owner] Openmoko Community Survey 2011 ? Results

2012-01-17 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, January 17, 2012 a las 11:05:22PM +1100, Philip Rhoades escribió: I bought the FR as an experiment and didn't use it day-to-day - I played with every new version and was quite interested in the GPS functionality. Sometime later my old phone died and by then QtMoko was

Re: [Gta04-owner] Openmoko Community Survey 2011 – Results

2012-01-16 Thread Radek Polak
On Monday 16 January 2012 08:53:04 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: 3. at the current price of the GTA04 group tour (450-500 EUR range) we can expect approx. 30% buyers. This would still mean 6000 of the originally sold GTA02 devices. Hm. We are still far away from this figure with

Re: GTA04 Installation Service for Switzerland and other Non-EU countries

2012-01-15 Thread rakshat hooja
We are willing to undertake this service in India. Rakshat Ida Systems On 1/14/12, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: We got several requests for the GTA04 installation service http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04%20Installation%20Service from countries not

Re: GTA04 Installation Service for Switzerland and other Non-EU countries

2012-01-14 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
I live in Norway and could help one or two. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [Gta04-owner] [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-31 Thread Glenn
On 30/12/11 07.39, Alishams Hassam wrote: Hello All, Firstly note that I am not a marketing expert by any means. Me2 ;-) 1. Online and print magazines, news websites: When GTA02 was sold and someone needed an ARM testboard, I recommended GTA02 and http://www.embeddedartists.com/ boards

Re: [Gta04-owner] Status GTA04 GroupTour

2011-12-30 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/12/29 Neal H. Walfield n...@walfield.org: First, if someone orders a GTA04, that person doesn't get all the hardware--that person needs to have a GTA01 or GTA02 and do some non-trivial assembly.  I realize that you have some cases that you are selling, which is the route that I went, but

Re: [Gta04-owner] [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-30 Thread Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller
Am 30.12.2011 um 10:27 schrieb ri...@happyleptic.org: Talking about how the wifi firmware has been isolated so it cannot interfere with the O/S is a great example. If you are refering to how it was made impossible to replace the non-free firmware by a free one, then I wouldn't advertise

Re: [Gta04-owner] [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-30 Thread rixed
-[ Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 02:56:50PM +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller ] Am 30.12.2011 um 10:27 schrieb ri...@happyleptic.org: Talking about how the wifi firmware has been isolated so it cannot interfere with the O/S is a great example. If you are refering to how it was made

Re: [Gta04-owner] Status GTA04 GroupTour

2011-12-30 Thread Martin Jansa
On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:18:05PM +0100, Neal H. Walfield wrote: Hi, It seems to me that there are two problems. First, if someone orders a GTA04, that person doesn't get all the hardware--that person needs to have a GTA01 or GTA02 and do some non-trivial assembly. I realize that you

Re: [Gta04-owner] Status GTA04 GroupTour

2011-12-30 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
I just got an idea. Maybe it is not very good, but I will mention it anyway. Imagine if the GTA04 board could be available for different cases, so that people owning a HTC could free their devices Maybe this is not feasible, but could increase the marked if done right.

Re: [Gta04-owner] Status GTA04 GroupTour

2011-12-30 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi Martin, Am 30.12.2011 um 20:01 schrieb Martin Jansa: On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:18:05PM +0100, Neal H. Walfield wrote: Hi, It seems to me that there are two problems. First, if someone orders a GTA04, that person doesn't get all the hardware--that person needs to have a GTA01 or

Re: [Gta04-owner] Status GTA04 GroupTour

2011-12-30 Thread Martin Jansa
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 10:02:44PM +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Hi Martin, Hi Nikolaus, Am 30.12.2011 um 20:01 schrieb Martin Jansa: On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 12:18:05PM +0100, Neal H. Walfield wrote: Hi, It seems to me that there are two problems. First, if someone

Re: [Gta04-owner] Status GTA04 GroupTour

2011-12-29 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi Neal, Am 29.12.2011 um 12:18 schrieb Neal H. Walfield: Hi, It seems to me that there are two problems. First, if someone orders a GTA04, that person doesn't get all the hardware--that person needs to have a GTA01 or GTA02 and do some non-trivial assembly. I realize that you have

Re: [Gta04-owner] Status GTA04 GroupTour

2011-12-29 Thread Neal H. Walfield
Hi, It seems to me that there are two problems. First, if someone orders a GTA04, that person doesn't get all the hardware--that person needs to have a GTA01 or GTA02 and do some non-trivial assembly. I realize that you have some cases that you are selling, which is the route that I went, but I

Re: [Gta04-owner] Status GTA04 GroupTour

2011-12-29 Thread NeilBrown
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 11:50:40 +0100 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Curious about your ideas, If I were thinking about joining the group tour, I'd be waiting for confirmation from the early adopters that the device really worked as a phone. The freerunner was plagued with

Re: [Gta04-owner] [FOSDEM] Third call for sessions for the FOSDEM cross-distribution miniconference

2011-12-23 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
and the other one describing the state of the ports. I guess I'll have to be part of the talk since I'm the one that knows all the ports, But that doesn't necessarly means that I would be the only one involved in that, I think we should involve all the people doing ports. By the way, what about

Re: [Gta04-owner] [FOSDEM] Third call for sessions for the FOSDEM cross-distribution miniconference

2011-12-21 Thread Dr. Michael Lauer
Am 21.12.2011 um 13:37 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Looks as if they urgently need more talks. This is IMHO a chance for SHR, QtMoko, FSO to present the latest great progress to a wider audience! Yeah, there's just one thing that's annoying me... 15 minutes is pathetic. Ok, for FSO we

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-18 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 12:01, Giacomo 'giotti' Mariani giacomomari...@yahoo.it wrote: [cut]           Here, I want to add that a friendly enthusiast (who wants to           stay anonymous) has spent close to 1 EUR to support           the project. He just believes in the idea of an

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-03 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Michael Well I for one would like a smartphone with completely open software - if an open implementation of baseband code also led to an improvement in user experience on the freerunner, that would be a bonus. Like you, I'm not too concerned about rules imposed on us by large corporations,

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] Here, I want to add that a friendly enthusiast (who wants to stay anonymous) has spent close to 1 EUR to support the project. He just believes in the idea of an open moko. Thank you anonymous enthusiast, your are spending your money wisely :) -- Patryk

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-02 Thread Radek Polak
On Friday 02 December 2011 05:26:16 msoko...@ivan.harhan.org wrote: But seriously, swapping PCBAs between GTA02 and GTA04 is a zero-sum game. The number of existing {case + LCM + GSM antenna + other bits} sets is finite, and it stays the same whether you leave the original GTA02 PCBAs in

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Le 01/12/2011 19:10, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller a écrit : While I was formulating another mail, there were two more subscription! Thank you very much! Yes, everyone has his/her own decisions to take. And I know that it is a quite huge amount of money for our passion (having myself spent a

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Giacomo 'giotti' Mariani
[cut] Here, I want to add that a friendly enthusiast (who wants to stay anonymous) has spent close to 1 EUR to support the project. He just believes in the idea of an open moko. Thank you anonymous enthusiast, your are spending your money wisely:) +1 --

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 03:18, Dave dave...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The article on /. won't hurt :) http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/12/01/1910213/openmokos-freerunner-rises-from-the-ashes Article? _Article_? Just 2 lines! Pathetic! Oh, it's my own ;-) I never thought it would hit the main

Re: GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Łukasz Pankowski
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com writes: Dear all, now, several days after the announcement of the GTA04 group tour, the first subscriptions have arrived (thanks you to all who have already subscribed!). And we have already seen many improvements by the kernel and distro

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread rixed
Nice to hit main page. Although it's always depressing to read the comments on /. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 13:22, ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: Nice to hit main page. Thanks! Although it's always depressing to read the comments on /. Yes, it is :-( Ah well, this may tickle a few more people to buy a new main board for their GTA02 cases... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02

Re: GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Radek Polak
On Friday 02 December 2011 13:21:34 lukp...@o2.pl wrote: The most important question is whether it can work as a daily phone, which means for me a solid hardware: no buzz and good quality sound during the call. On gta02 people where complaining on the sound from my gta02 even after buzfix

Re: GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread ml
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:45:16 +0100, Radek Polak wrote: On Friday 02 December 2011 13:21:34 lukp...@o2.pl wrote: The most important question is whether it can work as a daily phone, which means for me a solid hardware: no buzz and good quality sound during the call. On gta02 people where

Re: GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread rixed
Please everyone be prudent before claiming that this could be ready for general users as a conventional phone. Last time we pretended the openmoko was acceptable as a end-user product some non technical people bought it, then had tons of troubles (buzz, bad sound quality), then were responded

Re: GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Iain B. Findleton
What is the status of the GTA04 graphics chip implementation. I have done a lot of work on the GTA02 with my graphics based apps, and the main issue for me is the very poor graphics performance with the chip in use on that platform. I run the apps over the USB link to any PC using X, and the

Re: GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
What is the status of the GTA04 graphics chip implementation. I have done a lot of work on the GTA02 with my graphics based apps, and the main issue for me is the very poor graphics performance with the chip in use on that platform. I run the apps over the USB link to any PC using X, and the

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: With my wooden case i had fully working phone - only single part that was from GTA02 was the speaker + microphone. I really dont think this is big problem. Yes, and if I wanted to do the same thing (use a self-made wooden case), I could have done it just

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-02 Thread Radek Polak
On Friday 02 of December 2011 17:53:15 msoko...@ivan.harhan.org wrote: So I still disagree with your reasoning chain of (shortage of existing GTA02 units) - (GTA04 is the only solution) i am rather saying: (shortage of existing GTA02 units) - (GTA04 is the solution) Also pool graphics

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: i am rather saying: (shortage of existing GTA02 units) - (GTA04 is the solution) It is *a* solution for some classes of users. It is not *the* solution for all use cases. Also pool graphics performace of GTA02 make the user experience very bad - hardly

RE: GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-01 Thread Gay, John (GE Energy Services, Non-GE)
-Original Message- From: community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 10:49 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Cc: List for communicating with real GTA04 owners

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-01 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
While I was formulating another mail, there were two more subscription! Thank you very much! Yes, everyone has his/her own decisions to take. And I know that it is a quite huge amount of money for our passion (having myself spent a lot of money and time for the GTA04 to happen). Here, I want

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status - 2 old phones for free

2011-12-01 Thread Alexander Lehner
If someone's in need of the case: I have a Neo 1973 and a Freerunner (with probably some HW-glitches on GPS) which I would give away for free (as they are, including electronic parts and battery) to people who preorder a GTA04 from Nikolaus. I have a third phone and already ordered the

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-01 Thread Radek Polak
On Thursday 01 of December 2011 20:09:02 msoko...@ivan.harhan.org wrote: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: it is obvious why the open and free software community needs a device where every individual has control over the software. But isn't the GTM601 GSM/UMTS modem in

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-01 Thread Dave
Hi, The article on /. won't hurt :) http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/12/01/1910213/openmokos-freerunner-rises-from-the-ashes On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 4:10 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.comwrote: While I was formulating another mail, there were two more subscription! Thank you

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-01 Thread Michael Sokolov
Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: What's the point in investing time into device that is no longer manufactured and the number of users is decreasing to zero? If it is so worthless in your eyes, why are you (not Radek personally, but some others in this community) guarding that moko fw

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-11-30 Thread lores
Hi! I'm a definite buyer in 2012, too. Greets Lores // Le 28/11/11 11:37, Dave a écrit : Maybe a list of intentions might help placate fears of a non-product. Dave On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Dave dave...@gmail.com mailto:dave...@gmail.com wrote: I am a definite buyer - but

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-11-30 Thread rixed
Man, I was about bying a Nokia N9... Count me in! :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-11-28 Thread Dave
I am a definite buyer - but have to wait till Christmas budget gets back to par. Looking forward to it. Dave On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Hi Jorge, Am 26.11.2011 um 22:01 schrieb Jorge Costa: Hi Nikolaus, two quick questions, I

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-11-28 Thread Dave
Maybe a list of intentions might help placate fears of a non-product. Dave On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Dave dave...@gmail.com wrote: I am a definite buyer - but have to wait till Christmas budget gets back to par. Looking forward to it. Dave On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Dr. H.

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-11-28 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 28.11.2011 um 11:33 schrieb Dave: I am a definite buyer - but have to wait till Christmas budget gets back to par. Looking forward to it. No Problem. We have intentionally made the subscription timeframe quite long. It extends beyond Christmas and New Year, and even after FOSDEM. At

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-11-27 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi Jorge, Am 26.11.2011 um 22:01 schrieb Jorge Costa: Hi Nikolaus, two quick questions, I suppose you know the answer to the first one: 1) how many subscribers are there on this list ? The gta04-owners list has approx. 270 subscribers (may have some duplicates). The openmoko-community

Re: [Gta04-owner] Clarification

2011-11-13 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 09.11.2011 um 20:23 schrieb Bob Ham: On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 10:07 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: does this mean that you won't be shipping the GTA04 boards until you are able to mass produce the new cases ? No, it means that they will be made available as a motherboard

Re: [Gta04-owner] Clarification

2011-11-09 Thread Bob Ham
On Tue, 2011-11-08 at 10:07 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: does this mean that you won't be shipping the GTA04 boards until you are able to mass produce the new cases ? No, it means that they will be made available as a motherboard replacement for existing GTA01 and GTA02 cases.

Re: [Gta04-owner] Clarification

2011-11-08 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 08.11.2011 um 09:59 schrieb Jorge Costa: Hi Nikolaus, does this mean that you won't be shipping the GTA04 boards until you are able to mass produce the new cases ? No, it means that they will be made available as a motherboard replacement for existing GTA01 and GTA02 cases. Of course

Re: [Gta04-owner] Clarification

2011-11-08 Thread Antonio Murdaca
So, it's a dream to have a full GTA04 with case,battery,screen etc etc in a real near future? :( I mean, i have to buy a GTA01/02 and do the stuff to replace the mothherboard to have a GTA04 2011/11/8 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com Am 08.11.2011 um 09:59 schrieb Jorge Costa:

Re: [Gta04-owner] Clarification

2011-11-08 Thread Radek Polak
On Tuesday 08 November 2011 13:00:41 Antonio Murdaca wrote: So, it's a dream to have a full GTA04 with case,battery,screen etc etc in a real near future? :( I mean, i have to buy a GTA01/02 and do the stuff to replace the mothherboard to have a GTA04 I bought GTA04 board + LCD display and

Re: [Gta04-owner] Clarification

2011-11-08 Thread Michael Sokolov
Antonio Murdaca amurdoc...@gmail.com wrote: So, it's a dream to have a full GTA04 with case,battery,screen etc etc in a real near future? :( I mean, i have to buy a GTA01/02 and do the stuff to replace the mothherboard to have a GTA04 When you gut your GTA02s to stuff GTA04 boards into them,

Re: [Gta04-owner] Clarification

2011-11-08 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 08 November 2011, Radek Polak wrote: On Tuesday 08 November 2011 13:00:41 Antonio Murdaca wrote: So, it's a dream to have a full GTA04 with case,battery,screen etc etc in a real near future? :( I mean, i have to buy a GTA01/02 and do the stuff to replace the mothherboard to have

Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing

2011-10-24 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 24 October 2011, Xavier Cremaschi wrote: Did somebody try to use a 3D printer to see what can be done with this kind of device ? Could we use one to make a case ? It has been looked into. You should find the discussion in the list archives.

Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing

2011-10-23 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Did somebody try to use a 3D printer to see what can be done with this kind of device ? Could we use one to make a case ? Xavier. Le 15/11/2010 15:00, Atilla Filiz a écrit : About the case. Would GeeksphoneONE/Zeus case fit us? I know they have a sliding keyboards but maybe we can work

Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing

2011-10-21 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi Wolfgang, Am 18.10.2011 um 04:00 schrieb Wolfgang Spraul: Ranjit, hey, thanks for noticing :-) Happen to see the case of Milkymist one[1], it is a transparent material and would prefer GTA04 embedded in case like that, with full view of itsy bitsy circuits and chips, don't know how

Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing

2011-10-21 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 21 October 2011, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Hi Wolfgang, Am 18.10.2011 um 04:00 schrieb Wolfgang Spraul: Ranjit, hey, thanks for noticing :-) Happen to see the case of Milkymist one[1], it is a transparent material and would prefer GTA04 embedded in case like that,

Re: [Gta04-owner] QtMoko running on GTA04

2011-10-17 Thread Alexander Lehner
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011, Gennady Kupava wrote: Radek, very impressive case :) n++ It should even be harder to get such one than to make one with shapeways and others. A. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing

2011-10-17 Thread Ranjit Pillai
Happen to see the case of Milkymist one[1], it is a transparent material and would prefer GTA04 embedded in case like that, with full view of itsy bitsy circuits and chips, don't know how feasible is it. [1] http://milkymist.org/mmone.html On 11/15/10, Atilla Filiz atilla.fi...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [GTA04] When is the next and more powerful openmoko releasing

2011-10-17 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Ranjit, hey, thanks for noticing :-) Happen to see the case of Milkymist one[1], it is a transparent material and would prefer GTA04 embedded in case like that, with full view of itsy bitsy circuits and chips, don't know how feasible is it. [1] http://milkymist.org/mmone.html That case was

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04A3 Early Adopter boards in final production test stage

2011-09-29 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 28.09.2011 um 09:56 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: Am 28.09.2011 um 09:20 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com writes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCjM48BqfYo BTW, we plan to put the tester software under GPL (which is not forbidden for

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04A3 Early Adopter boards in final production test stage

2011-09-27 Thread Christ van Willegen
Nikolaus, Since a Video shows more than we can describe - here is one showing the Tester and how the boards are tested: Very interesting video, thanks (as always) for keeping us informed (as always)! Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Boot speed comparison

2011-09-22 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] As soon as we have learned how to really make a new case, We will choose a new display module and start... Any chance for capacitive one? It is much better suited for every day usage IMHO. -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html

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