[Om 2008] Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?

2009-07-23 Thread Lothar Behrens
Hi,

I am also interested to get my daily phone :-)

Why not just soldering another 10uF capacitor on top of the other. As  
I think soldering the capacitor to the shielding on the right
yet requires an insulator.

That way no long extra wires may be needed and no unsoldering is  
required.

Some questions:

I have read that making phone calls is impossible with that recamping,  
but I am able to do phone calls. I tried to start logging the
battery with

r...@om-gta02 ~ $ while true; do
  date
  mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/ 
PowerSupply/battery org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerSupply.GetInfo
  sleep 5
  done  battery-data

to compare the data, but I do not have mdbus command and it seems not  
to be installable with opkg (OM 2008).
Where do I get it?

What capacitor voltage is required or what capacitor could be used or  
where could I get a sample / buy one (22uF 0805 low-ESR)?

I have no matching screwdriver, but an ESD save place to solder the  
capacitor with a Weller WECP 20.

Is there any hardware fix party planned near stuttgart (I could  
provide the ESD equipment)?

Is that ok?

Thanks

Lothar

Am 22.07.2009 um 16:46 schrieb Daniel Willmann:

 Hi,

 On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:48:25 +0400
 ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello list,

 were there any successful fixes since posting
 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html

 Is this the final solution? Please post here your reports.

 Since about 5 days I'm using my #1024 fixed device as my main phone
 (before I only used it with my test SIM) and so far stability is  
 pretty
 good. I measured standby time (GSM on, phone in suspend) of around  
 140h
 which makes the Freerunner much more comfortable to use in my opinion.
 While increasing the capacitance does work to solve #1024 the actual
 problem is that the capacitor is not integrated in the regulator
 feedback loop (iirc). So while it's not the correct solution it's
 probably the best you can do without another hardware revision.


 Regards,
 Daniel Willmann
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Re: [Om 2008] Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?

2009-07-23 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 23 July 2009, Lothar Behrens wrote:
 Hi,

 I am also interested to get my daily phone :-)

 Why not just soldering another 10uF capacitor on top of the other. As
 I think soldering the capacitor to the shielding on the right
 yet requires an insulator.

I don't think there's enough space under the can. If there had been I doubt 
people would have been using the methods in this thread:
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-June/001230.html

 That way no long extra wires may be needed and no unsoldering is
 required.

The method in the post above avoids the long wire and unsoldering, but still 
needs insulation above and below. 

 Some questions:

 I have read that making phone calls is impossible with that recamping,
 but I am able to do phone calls.

You can't make or receive the call when the phone isn't registered, and in 
worst case the phone will spend ~1/3 of the time reregistering. Networks seem 
to handle reregistrations differently though - O2 UK sometimes thought the 
phone was switched off when I called it, while Orange and t-mobile always 
connected. This may have been luck though...

 I tried to start logging the battery with

 r...@om-gta02 ~ $ while true; do

   date
   mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/

 PowerSupply/battery org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerSupply.GetInfo

   sleep 5
   done  battery-data

 to compare the data, but I do not have mdbus command and it seems not
 to be installable with opkg (OM 2008).
 Where do I get it?

It wouldn't help on om2008.x as it isn't using FSO. You should be able to use 
apm or the sysfs battery entry to get similar information though. See:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs


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Re: [Om 2008] Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?

2009-07-23 Thread Lothar Behrens

Am 23.07.2009 um 18:11 schrieb Al Johnson:

 On Thursday 23 July 2009, Lothar Behrens wrote:
 Hi,

 I am also interested to get my daily phone :-)

 Why not just soldering another 10uF capacitor on top of the other. As
 I think soldering the capacitor to the shielding on the right
 yet requires an insulator.

 I don't think there's enough space under the can. If there had been  
 I doubt
 people would have been using the methods in this thread:
 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-June/001230.html

Ok, I don't know. As of reported to work I would do it as described.  
But I also wait about my reseller
(pulster) if this is a warranty. Then I wouldn't do the work by my  
self :-)

If not, I would like to see some pictures from that. Are there any  
around?



 That way no long extra wires may be needed and no unsoldering is
 required.

 The method in the post above avoids the long wire and unsoldering,  
 but still
 needs insulation above and below.

The insulation I think is better than not doing it :-)



 Some questions:

 I have read that making phone calls is impossible with that  
 recamping,
 but I am able to do phone calls.

 You can't make or receive the call when the phone isn't registered,  
 and in
 worst case the phone will spend ~1/3 of the time reregistering.  
 Networks seem
 to handle reregistrations differently though - O2 UK sometimes  
 thought the
 phone was switched off when I called it, while Orange and t-mobile  
 always
 connected. This may have been luck though...

I indeed had some reregistering and saw that by the symbol :-)



 I tried to start logging the battery with

 r...@om-gta02 ~ $ while true; do

 date
 mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced /org/freesmartphone/Device/

 PowerSupply/battery org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerSupply.GetInfo

 sleep 5
 done  battery-data

 to compare the data, but I do not have mdbus command and it seems not
 to be installable with opkg (OM 2008).
 Where do I get it?

 It wouldn't help on om2008.x as it isn't using FSO. You should be  
 able to use
 apm or the sysfs battery entry to get similar information though. See:
   http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs


I am look forward to update to a newer version of whatever. There I  
only need something:
Working phone (calls/sms), working GPS (with navit), working WLAN (at  
least with scripts).
A plus would be bluetooth with headset for car radio and optionally  
working hands free.

Has the Om2009 such a feature set?

Thanks

Lothar



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