Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-09-23 Thread Adam Ward
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:58:18 AM Radek Polak wrote: > On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:44:54 PM Neil Jerram wrote: > > Ah, thanks, I understand your question now: what version of fsogsmd does > > QtMoko build with, and isn't that now rather out of date? But I'm > > afraid I don't know the answers

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-09-22 Thread Radek Polak
On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:44:54 PM Neil Jerram wrote: > Ah, thanks, I understand your question now: what version of fsogsmd does > QtMoko build with, and isn't that now rather out of date? But I'm > afraid I don't know the answers. I was using FSO from git at the time when i was impleme

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-09-22 Thread Neil Jerram
Adam Ward writes: > On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:01:23 AM Neil Jerram wrote: >> Adam Ward writes: >> > On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:29:38 AM Radek Polak wrote: >> >> On Sunday, July 22, 2012 02:08:39 PM Simon Busch wrote: >> >> > As far as I know Qtmoko can use FSO but does not as default. >> >> >> >> Yes

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-09-22 Thread Adam Ward
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:01:23 AM Neil Jerram wrote: > Adam Ward writes: > > On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:29:38 AM Radek Polak wrote: > >> On Sunday, July 22, 2012 02:08:39 PM Simon Busch wrote: > >> > As far as I know Qtmoko can use FSO but does not as default. > >> > >> Yes this is correct. > >> > >>

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-09-22 Thread Neil Jerram
Adam Ward writes: > On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:29:38 AM Radek Polak wrote: >> On Sunday, July 22, 2012 02:08:39 PM Simon Busch wrote: >> > As far as I know Qtmoko can use FSO but does not as default. >> >> Yes this is correct. >> >> My plan was to use FSO for GTA04. But when i got my GTA04, there w

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-09-21 Thread Adam Ward
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:29:38 AM Radek Polak wrote: > On Sunday, July 22, 2012 02:08:39 PM Simon Busch wrote: > > As far as I know Qtmoko can use FSO but does not as default. > > Yes this is correct. > > My plan was to use FSO for GTA04. But when i got my GTA04, there was no work > for this device

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-08-03 Thread Jiří Pinkava
On 08/03/2012 05:15 PM, Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 16:47 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote: Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli writes: On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 23:13 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote: - GPS: it seems clear now that it was a mistake to pull that under the FSO umbrella, and that

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-08-03 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 16:47 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote: > Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli writes: > > > On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 23:13 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote: > >> > >> - GPS: it seems clear now that it was a mistake to pull that under > >> the > >>FSO umbrella, and that mobile devices should just use

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-08-03 Thread Neil Jerram
Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli writes: > On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 23:13 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote: >> >> - GPS: it seems clear now that it was a mistake to pull that under >> the >>FSO umbrella, and that mobile devices should just use standard gpsd >>instead > However I was told that adding suppor

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-08-01 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 23:13 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote: > > - GPS: it seems clear now that it was a mistake to pull that under > the >FSO umbrella, and that mobile devices should just use standard gpsd >instead However I was told that adding support for AGPS and GTA02 UBX would not be stra

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-08-01 Thread Paul Fertser
Enrico Zini writes: > This said, oFono does have one very compelling feature: on my N900, it > works reliably. Far better than any version of FSO that I ever managed > to put on my FreeRunner ever did. If you think that Nokia's N900 firmware is using oFono, you're wrong. Or do you mean something

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-31 Thread Neil Jerram
"Dr. Michael Lauer" writes: > Hi, > >> Arguably those two paragraphs are already well satisfied by oFono. >> oFono probably now has the advantage in terms of maturity and >> deployment, is compilable by a standard C compiler, and has a recent >> version packaged in Debian. > > FSO is compilable w

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-31 Thread Dr. Michael Lauer
Hi, > Arguably those two paragraphs are already well satisfied by oFono. > oFono probably now has the advantage in terms of maturity and > deployment, is compilable by a standard C compiler, and has a recent > version packaged in Debian. FSO is compilable with a standard C compiler as well. Every

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-31 Thread Neil Jerram
Enrico Zini writes: > What I think is needed now are components that give existing > distributions capabilities they didn't have before. Then to see what > people develop on top of them. +1 > But to be appealing to developers who are new to the system (which > basically means, all of them), suc

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-24 Thread Thamos
Thanks a lot, you'r the greatest :) Am 24.07.2012 18:17, schrieb Simon Busch: > Am 24.07.2012 11:27, schrieb Thomas Munker: >> Hi, >> i thought the ui is saving the volume values where it should (using >> opreference interface), but fso doesn't pick them up. There's an old >> bugreport in shr-tra

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-24 Thread Simon Busch
Am 24.07.2012 11:27, schrieb Thomas Munker: Hi, i thought the ui is saving the volume values where it should (using opreference interface), but fso doesn't pick them up. There's an old bugreport in shr-track [0], that suggests it's fso's fault. Maybe this should be clarified. I've found a new bug

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-23 Thread Radek Polak
On Sunday, July 22, 2012 02:08:39 PM Simon Busch wrote: > As far as I know Qtmoko can use FSO but does not as default. Yes this is correct. My plan was to use FSO for GTA04. But when i got my GTA04, there was no work for this device done in FSO, so i rather added gta04 modem plugin based on qt

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread Simon Busch
Am 22.07.2012 13:52, schrieb rakshat hooja: On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Neil Jerram wrote: Simon Busch writes: I would be really happy to hear what other people are thinking about the idea behind FSO since it was started back in 2008. What are your missing features? What do you like and

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread rakshat hooja
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Neil Jerram wrote: > Simon Busch writes: > > > I would be really happy to hear what other people are thinking about > > the idea behind FSO since it was started back in 2008. What are your > > missing features? What do you like and what not? > > All of the details

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread Rico Rommel
Am Sonntag, 22. Juli 2012, 12:03:38 schrieb Neil Jerram: > But your wider problem is that you're working in a vacuum, because > there's no reasonably widely used phone distribution that uses FSO and > that is also regularly and safely updated. That means you have no users > for your incremental i

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread Simon Busch
Am 22.07.2012 12:03, schrieb Neil Jerram: All of the details you've described sound to me like excellent and compelling things to work on. But your wider problem is that you're working in a vacuum, because there's no reasonably widely used phone distribution that uses FSO and that is also regula

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread Neil Jerram
Simon Busch writes: > I would be really happy to hear what other people are thinking about > the idea behind FSO since it was started back in 2008. What are your > missing features? What do you like and what not? All of the details you've described sound to me like excellent and compelling thing

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread Simon Busch
Am 22.07.2012 03:39, schrieb Pierre Pronchery: Hi Simon, lists, On 21/07/2012 20:45, Simon Busch wrote: as a lot of you may have noticed we did two releases in the past months of the FSO stack. Both were related to bring stability and consistence to the stack. Now I want to tal

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread Simon Busch
Am 22.07.2012 02:24, schrieb Kai Lüke: Hello, I think these all together will be fine. The only thing I have in my mind beside these is something I ever wanted to try but never did: redirecting sound (e.g. a sound file with pause melody or answerphone) to the call input. It depends a lot on the

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread Simon Busch
Am 21.07.2012 21:44, schrieb Thamos: Hi all. I've never seen someone using the conference-feature. I think selecting the provider is more important. (this one really annoys me, since i am near an border and simply can't phone until i get out auf alien range, if the phone switched one time, even r

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-21 Thread Kai Lüke
Hello, I think these all together will be fine. The only thing I have in my mind beside these is something I ever wanted to try but never did: redirecting sound (e.g. a sound file with pause melody or answerphone) to the call input. But just an idea, thanks! Kai Am 21.07.2012 21:44, schrieb Thamos

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-21 Thread Thamos
Hi all. I've never seen someone using the conference-feature. I think selecting the provider is more important. (this one really annoys me, since i am near an border and simply can't phone until i get out auf alien range, if the phone switched one time, even reboot doesn't help...). I also miss the

About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-21 Thread Simon Busch
Hey everybody, as a lot of you may have noticed we did two releases in the past months of the FSO stack. Both were related to bring stability and consistence to the stack. Now I want to talk with you about the future of the stack. In the past we were only concentrating on getting new hardware