Enlightenment Returns To Bring Ubuntu To ARM

2010-02-18 Thread Niels Heyvaert
Available on /. today: http://enlightenment.org/p.php?p=news/showl=ennews_id=20 -- Microsoft gives you windows, Linux gives you the whole house. _ Lentekriebels? Speel samen met je vrienden de

Re: enlightenment still crashing

2009-08-12 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 11 August 2009, Michal Brzozowski wrote: 2009/8/11 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk On Tuesday 11 August 2009, Michal Brzozowski wrote: Enlightenment is still crashing. Very easy to reproduce. Set the keyboard to none, run any application full screen. Is there a chance

Re: enlightenment still crashing

2009-08-12 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/8/12 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk Then please file a bug report. The devs can't keep track of everything mentioned on the list, but can easily get a list of outstanding bugs on the tracker. http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/398 Sorry for being lazy and not filing the

enlightenment still crashing

2009-08-11 Thread Michal Brzozowski
Enlightenment is still crashing. Very easy to reproduce. Set the keyboard to none, run any application full screen. Is there a chance anyone will fix it? I'm suffering for over 2 months from this already (when I forget not to touch the fullscreen button). All distros. Michal

Re: enlightenment still crashing

2009-08-11 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 11 August 2009, Michal Brzozowski wrote: Enlightenment is still crashing. Very easy to reproduce. Set the keyboard to none, run any application full screen. Is there a chance anyone will fix it? I'm suffering for over 2 months from this already (when I forget not to touch

Re: enlightenment still crashing

2009-08-11 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/8/11 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk On Tuesday 11 August 2009, Michal Brzozowski wrote: Enlightenment is still crashing. Very easy to reproduce. Set the keyboard to none, run any application full screen. Is there a chance anyone will fix it? I'm suffering for over 2 months

Re: Enlightenment and .desktop file (with autostarting)

2009-05-07 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
full paths to be explicit. I specified the full path. I will post the .desktop file later today. If I quit from paroli (using the illume bar), I cant relaunch it anymore. Just if I kill -HUP enlightenment. After that will start paroli. (I get a loading screen). So I need to kill enlightenment each

Re: Enlightenment and .desktop file (with autostarting)

2009-05-07 Thread The Rasterman
enlightenment. After that will start paroli. (I get a loading screen). So I need to kill enlightenment each time I quit paroli. Rather strange. actually - did you make sure paroli ACTUALLY quit? that it didnt stay running and just iconify its window? -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code

Re: Enlightenment and .desktop file (with autostarting)

2009-05-07 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 23:39 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: So I need to kill enlightenment each time I quit paroli. Rather strange. actually - did you make sure paroli ACTUALLY quit? that it didnt stay running and just iconify its window? Currently paroli won't quit. It backgrounds

Re: Enlightenment and .desktop file (with autostarting)

2009-05-07 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 07 May 2009 07:56:23 -0600 Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org said: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 23:39 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: So I need to kill enlightenment each time I quit paroli. Rather strange. actually - did you make sure paroli ACTUALLY quit? that it didnt stay

Enlightenment and .desktop file (with autostarting)

2009-05-06 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
Hi! I hope my questions are mainly rtfm ones, so someone can provide me the right links;) Short story: I installed om2009, and after I installed paroli from git. I could launch the new paroli (latest git) from command line. So I thought a little modification in /usr/share/paroli.desktop would be

Re: Enlightenment and .desktop file (with autostarting)

2009-05-06 Thread George Brooke
On Wednesday 06 May 2009 19:04:58 Laszlo KREKACS wrote: Hi! I hope my questions are mainly rtfm ones, so someone can provide me the right links;) Short story: I installed om2009, and after I installed paroli from git. I could launch the new paroli (latest git) from command line. So I

Re: Enlightenment and .desktop file (with autostarting)

2009-05-06 Thread The Rasterman
automagically) 2. How can I force E to reload the .desktop file and execute it and not the old (cached) one. it should do it automatcally. an e restart will force everything to reload (killall -HUP enlightenment). 3. How can I make sure the E autolaunch the right application? the launching you

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-21 Thread Bram Neijt
On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 11:52 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:13:08 +0200 Bram Neijt bne...@gmail.com said: This looks like a great list! I'll go through the points one by one... On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 01:03 +0200, Leonti Bielski wrote: Enlightenment is the best

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-21 Thread Bram Neijt
Effectively you are saying nothing else was good enough. But that is what everybody says when you ask them why they created something, they say I needed it, and it wasn't there already. Could you be more specific on which features you want, and why other toolkits can not deliver them? Or give an

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:05:44 +0200 Bram Neijt bne...@gmail.com said: i'm going to keep it short as i really dont have time to go into al the details. 1. i am not interested in c++. this gets rid of qt, fltk and a bunch of other toolkits. i know there are enough devs also not interested in c++.

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-21 Thread The Rasterman
-04-18 at 01:03 +0200, Leonti Bielski wrote: Enlightenment is the best choice for Freerunner! 1. Theming - it keeps resources low and alows us to do everything we want with GUI! Take shelf widgets as an example - you can change their look, even functions - like digital clock

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:46:46 +0200 Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net said: Carsten, Thanks that you took the time to explain it more in depth. Could you (or others) give me some advise ragarding the following. I'm working on an application that was written by others in PyGTK. I like it

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-21 Thread Pander
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:05:44 +0200 Bram Neijt bne...@gmail.com said: i'm going to keep it short as i really dont have time to go into al the details. 1. i am not interested in c++. this gets rid of qt, fltk and a bunch of other toolkits. i know

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-21 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: 4. try do a ui that INST just plain normal widgets with gtk. see where you get. try do xmms (winamp etc.). efl drops into this kind of ui seamlessly as it provides a canvas as the core drawing layer. making such

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-21 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:23:46 +0200 Andreas Fischer cyberf...@gmx.net said: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: http://www.rasterman.com/files/wp2.avi (i'm not done with it yet). This is 100% astonishing and sexy - I want that on my desktop :P Congrats for the good work. it's in

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-21 Thread Nicola Mfb
2009/4/21 Andreas Fischer cyberf...@gmx.net: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: http://www.rasterman.com/files/wp2.avi (i'm not done with it yet). This is 100% astonishing and sexy - I want that on my desktop :P Congrats for the good work. The most exciting thing about e is that it's

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-21 Thread Bram Neijt
Haitzler wrote: On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:13:08 +0200 Bram Neijt bne...@gmail.com said: This looks like a great list! I'll go through the points one by one... On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 01:03 +0200, Leonti Bielski wrote: Enlightenment is the best choice for Freerunner! 1

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-21 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:46:46 +0200 Pander pan...@users.sourceforge.net said: Does something like 'PyEnlightenment' exist? Is this Paroli? If I was to port the application to Paroli or a 'PyEnlightenment', would it also work for noob users on desktops,

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-20 Thread The Rasterman
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:21:39 +0400 Nikita V. Youshchenko yo...@debian.org said: i considered it but as i couldnt do finger scrolling (middle of the window - swipe to scroll) i chose not to try and push the work back onto the app to adapt to a limited window side. Theoretically it should

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-20 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
the problem is... it can't be done... unless: skip Hmm... I've heared about more or less generic gestures implementations. A quick google search gives this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gestikk-mouse-gesture-recognition-in-ubuntu.html How do they do it? Nikita

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-19 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
i considered it but as i couldnt do finger scrolling (middle of the window - swipe to scroll) i chose not to try and push the work back onto the app to adapt to a limited window side. Theoretically it should be possible to implement finger scrolling from the middle of the window starting with

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-19 Thread Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes
1. Theming - it keeps resources low and alows us to do everything we want with GUI! Take shelf widgets as an example - you can change their look, even functions - like digital clock instead of analog - without changin the main code. I don't say it's not possible with GTK but it way more

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-19 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 21:50, Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes gunnar.grim...@dfki.de wrote: I wont say it's better in GTK, but it not exactly trivial for E. It IS trivial. Default theme is large, but you can simply override interesting you classes. Look, how it's done in e-wm-theme-illume-shr theme.

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-19 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 19:31:39 -0700 Ali alish...@interchange.ubc.ca said: On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 11:28 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: . so what other choices do you have if you have eliminated qt for license reasons and you think gtk is just not up to snuff and is unlikely to get there

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-19 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 19:31:39 -0700 Ali alish...@interchange.ubc.ca said: On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 11:28 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: . so what other choices do you have if you have eliminated qt for license

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-19 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:50:10 +0200 Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes gunnar.grim...@dfki.de wrote: 1. Theming - it keeps resources low and alows us to do everything we want with GUI! Take shelf widgets as an example - you can change their look, even functions - like digital clock instead of analog -

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-18 Thread Bram Neijt
This looks like a great list! I'll go through the points one by one... On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 01:03 +0200, Leonti Bielski wrote: Enlightenment is the best choice for Freerunner! 1. Theming - it keeps resources low and alows us to do everything we want with GUI! Take shelf widgets

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:32:17 +0400 Nikita V. Youshchenko yo...@debian.org said: I wrote a small dialer in python gtk and use normal applications from debian (gpe-calendar, xvkbd keyboard, midori/firefox/arora/elinks browsers, xchat, icewm window manager). This has give me a pretty stable

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:11:37 +0200 Bram Neijt bne...@gmail.com said: as such the choice of enviornment, thanks to it running x, is not limited, you can use qt, gtk, sdl, fltk etc. e is a window manager - it happens to also have spawned toolkits that lend themesleves to unique custom ui's and much

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-18 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:13:08 +0200 Bram Neijt bne...@gmail.com said: This looks like a great list! I'll go through the points one by one... On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 01:03 +0200, Leonti Bielski wrote: Enlightenment is the best choice for Freerunner! 1. Theming - it keeps resources low

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-18 Thread Ali
On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 11:28 +1000, Carsten Haitzler wrote: . so what other choices do you have if you have eliminated qt for license reasons and you think gtk is just not up to snuff and is unlikely to get there easily without major breaks? I've been a fan of fltk for a little while now

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-17 Thread Pierre Pronchery
Hey Bram, Bram Neijt wrote: When I tried hackable:1 it did not contain a dialer and had no basic phone functionality, but I will be giving it another try in the near future. That's strange, all of our stable releases have always included the dialer. Maybe you tried a

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-17 Thread Bram Neijt
That could very well be what went wrong. I'll put hackable:1 on my list and if I experience problems, I'll let you know. Thanks! Bram On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 13:19 +0200, Pierre Pronchery wrote: When I tried hackable:1 it did not contain a dialer and had no basic phone functionality, but I

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-17 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Thomas Seiler wrote: Hi, Why enlightenment? | You see things; and you say, 'Why?' | But I dream things that never were; and I say, Why not? |George Bernard Shaw, Thumbs up, here! It was my reply too (Shaw, you only come up before! :P). By the way if I can give my idea, the switch

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-17 Thread Bram Neijt
I know this is inflammatory, but I really couldn't resist: You see things; and you say, 'Why not?' But I dream things that never were; and I say, Why not not? Bram On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 17:43 +0200, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: Thomas Seiler wrote: Hi, Why enlightenment? | You

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-17 Thread Leonti Bielski
Enlightenment is the best choice for Freerunner! 1. Theming - it keeps resources low and alows us to do everything we want with GUI! Take shelf widgets as an example - you can change their look, even functions - like digital clock instead of analog - without changin the main code. I don't say

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Bram Neijt bne...@gmail.com wrote: I know this question must have come up once before, but I couldn't find any real answer online, so I'm posting it here. Why enlightenment? I haven't seen enlightenment being used for over 4 years, huum ? I use it daily

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Bram Neijt
enlightenment? at least one developer from enlightenment (see http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=contactl=en) was working for OpenMoko (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Who_is_Who): Carsten Haitzler / raster (http://www.rasterman.com/) If enlightenment is well-suited and if you have somebody

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Bram Neijt
I've used debian and it worked, although screen locking was not implemented yet and most of the functionality is placed in an applet which is not at all finger friendly, but ok. I did an update (apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade) and that destroyed my xsession configuration and left me with

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Bram Neijt
In theory this sounds like a good idea, but I think in practice the scrollbars would have to be accessible in the middle of the screen. Because the OpenMoko screen has an edge around it[1], using the edges of the screen means pushing your finger inside a 90* corner and sliding it. Not something I

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread arne anka
So what if the company decided to use that money for something you do not want to be part of, or you think they are throwing away your money doing stupid things. Well, I think at that moment you should pawn the product, not endorse it (maybe even publicly denounce it) and then find another

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Bram Neijt
Saying it is designed for handheld devices still sound to me like focusing on reimplementing something specially for a kind/set of devices. Instead of the much more productive (IMHO) molding technology into a handheld. I still can't get around the feeling that using e is like re-inventing the

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Bram Neijt
True, I expected to like the Freerunner as a phone and thought the whole freedom would just be an added bonus. If the phone isn't that good, I could always fix small bugs and help out. However, it turns out that I can't understand the direction the mainstream development is going, and with this

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Johny Tenfinger
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 16:47, Bram Neijt bne...@gmail.com wrote: As for SHR you mention, I didn't want to try SHR because the wiki[1] states: GSM network is lost after one day of uptime: restart your FR once a day! in the list of known issues. But maybe I should give it a try after all. I

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Konstantin
Johny Tenfinger schrieb: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 16:47, Bram Neijt bne...@gmail.com wrote: As for SHR you mention, I didn't want to try SHR because the wiki[1] states: GSM network is lost after one day of uptime: restart your FR once a day! in the list of known issues. But maybe I should

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-16 Thread Johny Tenfinger
Now testing is equal unstable ;) And before that unstable was more stable than testing :D ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Why enlightenment?

2009-04-15 Thread Bram Neijt
I know this question must have come up once before, but I couldn't find any real answer online, so I'm posting it here. Why enlightenment? I haven't seen enlightenment being used for over 4 years, and with the wealth of programs out there which are portable and can run on top op Linux

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-15 Thread Cedric Cellier
If you'd prefer using Qt or GTK, both have dedicated distros. For instance, hackable:1 is the continuation of the initial OpenMoko software stack that was based on GTK. As to why openmoko guys decided one day to sacrifice all the work already done with GTK and to go for a plain new framework,

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-15 Thread Johny Tenfinger
E libraries seems to be a fastest and lightnest on Neo hardware. When using proper theme of course. And they provide very nice way for layouting. I was sceptic about e too, but when I see that libs in action (from both user and developer side), I'm sure that was good decision. There is even Illume

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-15 Thread Bram Neijt
When I tried hackable:1 it did not contain a dialer and had no basic phone functionality, but I will be giving it another try in the near future. Thank you for your reply. Bram On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 23:19 +0200, Cedric Cellier wrote: If you'd prefer using Qt or GTK, both have dedicated

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-15 Thread Bram Neijt
Saying that the libs are dedicated to the Neo sounds like my worst nightmare: no application anywhere ever uses them.. except for some of the programs written specially for the Neo. That would imply that, if you ever want to use an application on the Neo, you will have to port it (or live with the

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-15 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Bram Neijt bne...@gmail.com writes: Saying that the libs are dedicated to the Neo sounds like my worst nightmare: no application anywhere ever uses them.. except for some of I have had these same thoughts for months. Fortunately it is perfectly possible to use freerunner without using E at all.

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-15 Thread Johny Tenfinger
No, you didn't understand me. It isn't dedicated for Neo. It's designed for handheld devices. Like Neo. And under that environment you can still use other toolkits. And when I said about good apps I was thinking about phone apps. And it seems that SHR has really good, e17 phone apps. They would be

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-15 Thread Martin Bernreuther
Am Mittwoch, 15. April 2009 schrieb Bram Neijt: I know this question must have come up once before, but I couldn't find any real answer online, so I'm posting it here. Why enlightenment? at least one developer from enlightenment (see http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=contactl=en) was working

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-15 Thread Joseph Jon Booker
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:57:57 +0200 Bram Neijt bne...@gmail.com wrote: I know this question must have come up once before, but I couldn't find any real answer online, so I'm posting it here. Why enlightenment? I haven't seen enlightenment being used for over 4 years, and with the wealth

Re: Why enlightenment?

2009-04-15 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
I wrote a small dialer in python gtk and use normal applications from debian (gpe-calendar, xvkbd keyboard, midori/firefox/arora/elinks browsers, xchat, icewm window manager). This has give me a pretty stable no surprises around corners environment with lots of applications and let me to

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-04-02 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: In the latest months the enlightenment world has got many updates, but unfortunately the distros available for the FR don't provide the latest versions of the E stack. This is quite normal since they have to share a tested environment, but it makes so hard

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-04-02 Thread Johny Tenfinger
shr-unstable is now using very hot new enlightenment revision ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-04-02 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Johny Tenfinger wrote: shr-unstable is now using very hot new enlightenment revision ;) Yes I know that... But I mostly use Om2008 so to stay a little more on the bleeding edge I have to compile, and I've always done for months :P -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-04-02 Thread Angus Ainslie
Openmoko unstable and anything based on fso/milestone5.5 has stayed current to the newest revision of enlightenment for over a month now. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman

window full screen via enlightenment _remote

2009-02-26 Thread Petr Vanek
Hi, is it somehow possible to send a fullscreen command via enlightenment_remote to a application window? Or to have it in the illume simple_menu? Thank you Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [2008.12] Enlightenment doesn't want to run anymore

2009-02-25 Thread Flyin_bbb8
more likely. yea, already tried rm -r ~/.e didn't help, tried md5summing all those enlightenment specific init and theme files and those enlightenment binaries, all is like it was when newly installed, it should be some other package i pulled from angstrom or something In the end, when playing

Re: [2008.12] Enlightenment doesn't want to run anymore

2009-02-24 Thread Flyin_bbb8
no one has any idea what the segfault could be caused from? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [2008.12] Enlightenment doesn't want to run anymore

2009-02-24 Thread roguemoko
Flyin_bbb8 wrote: no one has any idea what the segfault could be caused from? I haven't seen the original mail but it's most likely a botched update/missing library or incompatible library/binary. Make sure you're not mixing repos and/or stick to a stable branch. Reflash is all I can suggest.

Re: [2008.12] Enlightenment doesn't want to run anymore

2009-02-24 Thread Flyin_bbb8
'/usr/share/enlightenment/data/init/illume_init.edj' '1' '0' 'Enlightenment' '0.16.999.050' # Segmentation fault # ESTART: 1.77762 [0.95707] - test file format support # run-parts: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90xXWindowManager exited with code 1011 # waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE

Re: [2008.12] Enlightenment doesn't want to run anymore

2009-02-24 Thread roguemoko
: /usr/bin/enlightenment_init '/usr/share/enlightenment/ data/init/illume_init.edj' '1' '0' 'Enlightenment' '0.16.999.050' # Segmentation fault # ESTART: 1.77762 [0.95707] - test file format support [...snip...] # run-parts: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90xXWindowManager exited with code 1011 and no i

[2008.12] Enlightenment doesn't want to run anymore

2009-02-23 Thread Flyin_bbb8
INIT: /usr/bin/enlightenment_init '/usr/share/enlightenment/data/init/illume_init.edj' '1' '0' 'Enlightenment' '0.16.999.050' # Segmentation fault # ESTART: 1.77762 [0.95707] - test file format support # run-parts: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90xXWindowManager exited with code 1011 # waiting for X

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-14 Thread Helge Hafting
Helge Hafting wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: - Now you may also configure E, from the wrench, to use the software_16 rendering engine (it causes less quality, but more speed) and a lower framerate value... Where exactly would that be? I tried the wrench, and waded through a

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-13 Thread Julien Cassignol
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 5:47 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net wrote: In the latest months the enlightenment world has got many updates, but unfortunately the distros available for the FR don't provide the latest versions of the E stack. This is quite normal since they have to share

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-12 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Helge Hafting wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: - Now you may also configure E, from the wrench, to use the software_16 rendering engine (it causes less quality, but more speed) and a lower framerate value... Where exactly would that be? I tried the wrench, and waded through a

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-12 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Joel Newkirk wrote: On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:47:14 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net wrote: Soon, I'd like to give a newer try to guarana and enjoy (not forgetting the latest elemetary stuffs!)... :P Bye... ;) Thank you for this. :) Please post Elementary when you can -

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-12 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I'm not sure if you are factoring this into your considerations or not, but all the apps that segfault when launched from GUI do NOT segfault when run from SSH. They all work just fine. Moreover, if the alarm clock app (which segfaults from GUI) is run because the alarm is going off, it works

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-12 Thread Angus Ainslie
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:02 PM, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure if you are factoring this into your considerations or not, but all the apps that segfault when launched from GUI do NOT segfault when run from SSH. They all work just fine. Moreover, if the alarm

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-12 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Angus Ainslie wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:02 PM, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure if you are factoring this into your considerations or not, but all the apps that segfault when launched from GUI do NOT segfault when run from SSH. They all work just fine.

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-12 Thread The Digital Pioneer
OK! Got it. In my GUI, LD_LIBRARY_PATH was set to /usr/etc/e17: while in SSH it was empty. I wrote a script that simply unsets LD_LIBRARY_PATH and runs the first parameter and it works. :D I just added it to the commands to run in all the .desktop files, and voila! It's fixed (dirtily, but

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-10 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:47:14 +0100, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) m...@3v1n0.net wrote: Soon, I'd like to give a newer try to guarana and enjoy (not forgetting the latest elemetary stuffs!)... :P Bye... ;) Thank you for this. :) Please post Elementary when you can - it's utilized for Raster's

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-10 Thread The Rasterman
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:40:19 -0500 Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us babbled: nb. anyone using elementary... http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Elementary i wrote a quick intro to it... hello world and a this is what it is and how it looks/works :) On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:47:14 +0100,

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-09 Thread Helge Hafting
Thanks for working on this. I tried this new enlightenment on top of SHR. It looks good and starts quickly, but unfortunately I can't use it. Problems: * None of the SHR phone apps works. Dialer, Contacts, Messages all fail with segmentation faults now. So I have to revert, because I need

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-09 Thread Helge Hafting
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: - Now you may also configure E, from the wrench, to use the software_16 rendering engine (it causes less quality, but more speed) and a lower framerate value... Where exactly would that be? I tried the wrench, and waded through a multitude of options.

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-09 Thread Joel Newkirk
Advanced-Engine. Framerate is under Advanced-Performance but is awkward to use there - instead use the variation under Display-Framerate. j On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 11:40:49 +0100, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: - Now you may also configure E, from

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-09 Thread The Digital Pioneer
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Thanks for working on this. I tried this new enlightenment on top of SHR. It looks good and starts quickly, but unfortunately I can't use it. Problems: * None of the SHR phone apps works. Dialer, Contacts, Messages

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-09 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 15:18:27 -0600, The Digital Pioneer digitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 4:35 AM, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Thanks for working on this. I tried this new enlightenment on top of SHR. It looks good and starts quickly, but unfortunately I

On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-08 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
In the latest months the enlightenment world has got many updates, but unfortunately the distros available for the FR don't provide the latest versions of the E stack. This is quite normal since they have to share a tested environment, but it makes so hard to use the latest tools (also because

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-08 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: To run it (I was too lazy for adding a .desktop file :D): DISPLAY=:0 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/e17/lib /usr/e17/ewww Small typo: DISPLAY=:0 LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/e17/lib /usr/e17/bin/ewww -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/

Re: On the Enlightenment Bleeding Edge

2009-01-08 Thread The Digital Pioneer
OK, I changed out the illume.edj file, but I still have a nasty icon set, and three apps (Contacts and Settings and pythm) have no icons. How do I revert back to the old icons? Also, in the startup config, I told it to add mplayer to the desktop (just to see what it did) and it does nothing (I

Re: Is it possible to keep ASU Enlightenment profile...

2009-01-05 Thread Atilla Filiz
I don't want to go off topic but is it possible to use matchbox keyboard under Enlightenment(specifically, under 2008.x of course)? On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:46 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:39:19 -0800 Vasili Sviridov vsviri

Re: Is it possible to keep ASU Enlightenment profile...

2009-01-05 Thread Vasili Sviridov
Daniel Nöthen wrote: I want to keep ASU profile because if i switch to illume it keeps segfaulting at random actions and intervals... I don't know how to use the illume keyboard on ASU. But to stop illume segfaulting all the time you need to set the the Engine from SOFTWARE_16 to SOFTWARE

Re: Is it possible to keep ASU Enlightenment profile...

2009-01-05 Thread The Rasterman
topic but is it possible to use matchbox keyboard under Enlightenment(specifically, under 2008.x of course)? On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:46 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com wrote: On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:39:19 -0800 Vasili Sviridov vsviri...@exceede.com babbled

Re: Is it possible to keep ASU Enlightenment profile...

2009-01-05 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:39:19 -0800 Vasili Sviridov vsviri...@exceede.com babbled: Daniel Nöthen wrote: I want to keep ASU profile because if i switch to illume it keeps segfaulting at random actions and intervals... I don't know how to use the illume keyboard on ASU. But to

Re: Is it possible to keep ASU Enlightenment profile...

2009-01-05 Thread Vasili Sviridov
This seems to be a bit outdated, but there you go: http://www.ginguppin.de/node/15 Atilla Filiz wrote: I don't want to go off topic but is it possible to use matchbox keyboard under Enlightenment(specifically, under 2008.x of course)? On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:46 AM, The Rasterman Carsten

Re: Is it possible to keep ASU Enlightenment profile...

2009-01-05 Thread Daniel Nöthen
I want to keep ASU profile because if i switch to illume it keeps segfaulting at random actions and intervals... I don't know how to use the illume keyboard on ASU. But to stop illume segfaulting all the time you need to set the the Engine from SOFTWARE_16 to SOFTWARE in the wrench-menu.

Is it possible to keep ASU Enlightenment profile...

2009-01-04 Thread Vasili Sviridov
... but use Illume's keyboard? Default one in 2008.12 sucks so bad... :( I want to keep ASU profile because if i switch to illume it keeps segfaulting at random actions and intervals... Vasili. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: [2008.12] Enlightenment not starting anymore.

2008-12-28 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Sat, 27 Dec 2008 15:14:11 +0100, Ivar Mossin ivar.mos...@gmail.com wrote: So now I try to install the suggested package: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg -force-downgrade install http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/armv4t/e-wm_0.16.999.043+svnr36882-r14.01_armv4t.opk Downloading

[2008.12] Enlightenment not starting anymore.

2008-12-27 Thread Ivar Mossin
Angstrom is up to svnr27988 now so I'm guessing that's exactly where it got that. It's a BAD idea to do an upgrade from a 'foreign' repo - pulling specific packages from a different feed is one thing, but letting it autonomously replace whatever it wants is a recipe for a broken system...

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