Re: has anyone tried this usb hub with their freerunner?

2010-03-15 Thread Robin Paulson
On 15 March 2010 05:13, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote:
 Not this type, but I bought the cheapest one I have found and it works well.
 See
 http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=10

as an update, i realised after reading the *whole* page on usb cables,
that i could use a Y-cable + some bash scripting, instead of buying a
hub. far cheaper, and i don't have to wait for postage from hk

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Re: has anyone tried this usb hub with their freerunner?

2010-03-15 Thread Robin Paulson
On 15 March 2010 21:32, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote:
 as an update, i realised after reading the *whole* page on usb cables,
 that i could use a Y-cable + some bash scripting, instead of buying a

hmm, apparently bash scripting is a clumsy way to do this. is there a
decent, maintained app for shr which will allow me to set the charge
status? is this a planned feature for shr-settings?

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Re: has anyone tried this usb hub with their freerunner?

2010-03-15 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes:
 hub. far cheaper, and i don't have to wait for postage from hk

My hub only cost $5.31 and there were not shipping fees from
dealextreme.com :) /advertisement

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Re: has anyone tried this usb hub with their freerunner?

2010-03-14 Thread Mike Crash

Not this type, but I bought the cheapest one I have found and it works well.
See
http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=10
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Re: has anyone tried this usb hub with their freerunner?

2010-03-13 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Not this one but something similar. See
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/user:lindi for a link.

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has anyone tried this usb hub with their freerunner?

2010-03-12 Thread Robin Paulson
or anything similar?

http://cgi.ebay.com/High-Speed-Smart-3-Ports-USB-Hub-5-Pin-Cable-for-PC_W0QQitemZ260567368077QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3cab06818d

i'd like to power the phone, while i have a flash drive and another
usb device plugged into it

cheers

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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2009-01-08 Thread arne anka
 No DFU capable USB device found
 

 Can you please tell me how to transfer the boot loader and the kernel
 to the NAND?

not the slightest clue, what you are talking about :-), but i think you  
can give the device id (see lsusb), too, to dfu-util.

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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2009-01-08 Thread Sander van Grieken
 No DFU capable USB device found
 

 Can you please tell me how to transfer the boot loader and the kernel
 to the NAND?

 not the slightest clue, what you are talking about :-), but i think you
 can give the device id (see lsusb), too, to dfu-util.

dfu-util should autodetect all DFU capable devices, so if it doesn't find one 
it is
probably not DFU capable.

I noticed this because my usb sound card was brutely reset when I tried to 
flash the FR ;)

grtz,
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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2009-01-08 Thread Tarandeep Gill
Ok, I prepared the SD card with the boot loader and the kernel, and
set the SMDK6410 cfg switches/jumpers to boot it from SD. But nothing
shows up on the LCD. Can anyone (possibly Andy) tell me what should I
expect when the kernel boots? and how can I see the ash prompt in the
Busybox (as declared by andy)?

 - Tarandeep

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Tarandeep Gill taran.i...@gmail.com wrote:
 What I guess is, dfu-util does not write to s3c6410 right now, thats
 why Andy has a small utility that transfers the bootloader and the
 kernel to a SD card. And I guess right now SMDK6410 (the demo board)
 can only be booted with the SD card. Am I correct here?

  - Tarandeep

 On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Sander van Grieken san...@3v8.net wrote:
 No DFU capable USB device found
 

 Can you please tell me how to transfer the boot loader and the kernel
 to the NAND?

 not the slightest clue, what you are talking about :-), but i think you
 can give the device id (see lsusb), too, to dfu-util.

 dfu-util should autodetect all DFU capable devices, so if it doesn't find 
 one it is
 probably not DFU capable.

 I noticed this because my usb sound card was brutely reset when I tried to 
 flash the FR ;)

 grtz,
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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2009-01-07 Thread Tarandeep Gill
Hi,

I have a SMDK6410 board. I have successfully compiled  dfu-util, Qi,
and Openmoko kernel on my Ubuntu machine.

The SMDK6410 is just as I got it from the company, I haven't modified
its firmware. I have connected it to my computer with a  USB cable,
that goes into the OTG USB host port on the board (This is how the
Windows DNW utility transfers a Win CE image to the board).

So, when I use dfu-util to try to burn the Qi image into it, I get the
following error:

r...@conectech-desktop# ./dfu-util -a u-boot -R
-D../qi/image/qi-s3c6410-master_84e38630c7135c1f.udfu
dfu-util - (C) 2007-2008 by OpenMoko Inc.
This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

No DFU capable USB device found


Can you please tell me how to transfer the boot loader and the kernel
to the NAND?

I also have an Olimex OCD (that connects to the JTAG interface on the
board) , if it is needed anyway.

Thanks,

Tarandeep

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Andy Green a...@openmoko.com wrote:
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 Somebody in the thread at some point said:
 | On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:35:40 +0100
 | Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz (PV) wrote:
 |
 | On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:26:00 +0100
 | arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de (AA)
 | wrote:
 |
 | I have tried it and i liked it. It was definitively faster. I might
 | stick with it for a while i hope.
 | how does it play with the dead battery issue?
 |
 | well, this i cannot answer as i have three batteries and just swap them
 | around... i can try to run one completely empty and see what happens.
 |
 |
 | seems like no luck with empty battery, but i hadn't have much time to
 | test. and, for some reason, i cannot Qi boot my SD located distro.
 | Results on NAND based distro give me today the same or almost longer
 | booting times. The original Qi from Andy was definitely faster.
 |
 | Someone mentioned sound issue... right, seems to be that way too - no
 | sound, but i haven't tested it thoroughly now.
 |
 | I had been using older qi from Andy and i am not sure, but think that
 | it didn't suffer these issues... well, let's wait, it's still fresh.

 The sound thing is a kernel issue I believe.  Up in stable-tracking
 branch of kernel the upstream init of the codec chip is done differently
 now and I think this is resolved.  But stable-tracking has some issues
 being worked on that stop it replacing stable right now.

 The empty battery thing on GTA02 A5 anyway is a hardware issue that is
 happening before the CPU is booted, so Qi can't directly affect it.  It
 can indirectly affect it though, when it does run it enables charging
 immediately.

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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-30 Thread arne anka
 I have tried it and i liked it. It was definitively faster. I might
 stick with it for a while i hope.

how does it play with the dead battery issue?

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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-30 Thread Petr Vanek
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:26:00 +0100
arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AA)
wrote:

 I have tried it and i liked it. It was definitively faster. I might
 stick with it for a while i hope.

how does it play with the dead battery issue?


well, this i cannot answer as i have three batteries and just swap them
around... i can try to run one completely empty and see what happens.


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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-30 Thread Petr Vanek
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:35:40 +0100
Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PV) wrote:

On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:26:00 +0100
arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AA)
wrote:

 I have tried it and i liked it. It was definitively faster. I might
 stick with it for a while i hope.

how does it play with the dead battery issue?


well, this i cannot answer as i have three batteries and just swap them
around... i can try to run one completely empty and see what happens.


seems like no luck with empty battery, but i hadn't have much time to
test. and, for some reason, i cannot Qi boot my SD located distro.
Results on NAND based distro give me today the same or almost longer
booting times. The original Qi from Andy was definitely faster.

Someone mentioned sound issue... right, seems to be that way too - no
sound, but i haven't tested it thoroughly now.

I had been using older qi from Andy and i am not sure, but think that
it didn't suffer these issues... well, let's wait, it's still fresh.

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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-30 Thread Pander
Does Qi have an issue tracker or does an existing issue tracker have a
label or a component to track Qi issues?

Petr Vanek wrote:
 On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:35:40 +0100
 Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PV) wrote:
 
 On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:26:00 +0100
 arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AA)
 wrote:

 I have tried it and i liked it. It was definitively faster. I might
 stick with it for a while i hope.
 how does it play with the dead battery issue?

 well, this i cannot answer as i have three batteries and just swap them
 around... i can try to run one completely empty and see what happens.

 
 seems like no luck with empty battery, but i hadn't have much time to
 test. and, for some reason, i cannot Qi boot my SD located distro.
 Results on NAND based distro give me today the same or almost longer
 booting times. The original Qi from Andy was definitely faster.
 
 Someone mentioned sound issue... right, seems to be that way too - no
 sound, but i haven't tested it thoroughly now.
 
 I had been using older qi from Andy and i am not sure, but think that
 it didn't suffer these issues... well, let's wait, it's still fresh.
 
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 http://biodynamika.cz
 
 
 
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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-30 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:

| Does Qi have an issue tracker or does an existing issue tracker have a
| label or a component to track Qi issues?

For now stick them under the somewhat ambiguous System Software thing
with Qi in the title.

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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-30 Thread Andy Green
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:35:40 +0100
| Petr Vanek [EMAIL PROTECTED] (PV) wrote:
|
| On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:26:00 +0100
| arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AA)
| wrote:
|
| I have tried it and i liked it. It was definitively faster. I might
| stick with it for a while i hope.
| how does it play with the dead battery issue?
|
| well, this i cannot answer as i have three batteries and just swap them
| around... i can try to run one completely empty and see what happens.
|
|
| seems like no luck with empty battery, but i hadn't have much time to
| test. and, for some reason, i cannot Qi boot my SD located distro.
| Results on NAND based distro give me today the same or almost longer
| booting times. The original Qi from Andy was definitely faster.
|
| Someone mentioned sound issue... right, seems to be that way too - no
| sound, but i haven't tested it thoroughly now.
|
| I had been using older qi from Andy and i am not sure, but think that
| it didn't suffer these issues... well, let's wait, it's still fresh.

The sound thing is a kernel issue I believe.  Up in stable-tracking
branch of kernel the upstream init of the codec chip is done differently
now and I think this is resolved.  But stable-tracking has some issues
being worked on that stop it replacing stable right now.

The empty battery thing on GTA02 A5 anyway is a hardware issue that is
happening before the CPU is booted, so Qi can't directly affect it.  It
can indirectly affect it though, when it does run it enables charging
immediately.

- -Andy
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Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-29 Thread Jason Cawood
Has anyone tried the new boot manager? or figured out how to install it?

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi


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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-29 Thread Richy
./dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D
http://people.openmoko.org/andy/qi-s3c6410-andy_8589b40295653557.udfu

haven't tried that build yet.. There has been a thread a while ago. Don't be
afraid when your screen stays black for 10seconds or so while booting. Thats
normal.

It's definitely faster.

It will try to boot your kernel from sd-card and if there is none us the one
in NAND.

Have fun

Richard
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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-29 Thread Richy
Sorry there, I meant:
wget http://people.openmoko.org/andy/qi-s3c6410-andy_8589b40295653557.udfu

./dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D
http://people.openmoko.org/andy/qi-s3c6410-andy_8589b40295653557.udfu
qi-s3c6410-andy_8589b40295653557.udfu
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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-29 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:58:34 -0600, Jason Cawood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Has anyone tried the new boot manager? or figured out how to install it?
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi
 
 
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Check the thread about 2.6.27 kernel.  I've been using qi off and on for a
couple weeks.

Plus side:
Faster.  approximately 30% faster, by the stopwatch, than uBoot.

Neg side: (note that these are of course fixable)
Sound doesn't currently work, period.  soundcard device not found.  With
SHR, FSO, 2008.x, Raster at least.
Often doesn't boot the first attempt after restoring power, needs second
'press and hold'
Often doesn't want to resume after suspend.

of note:
Backlight turns on right away, but screen remains blank until kernel load,
and kernel does NOT output gobs of text to the screen.
Will ALWAYS boot from uSD if first partition is ext2 and contains
/boot/uImage.bin, otherwise boots from NAND.
No splash screen. (not a problem, just be aware)

I altered /etc/init.d/banner to print an ascii openmoko logo, so there'd be
something more than 'please wait, booting' onscreen until X starts.

In short: Looks extremely promising, and once the soundcard bug is fixed I
will probably flash Qi and never look back.  Until soundcard and suspend
issues are addressed, I'd recommend it ONLY FOR TESTING.

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Re: Has anyone tried Qi?

2008-10-29 Thread Petr Vanek
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:58:34 -0600
Jason Cawood [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JC) wrote:

Has anyone tried the new boot manager? or figured out how to install
it?

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi


I have tried it and i liked it. It was definitively faster. I might
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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-28 Thread Stroller
Hi there,

Did you ever hear any more of this?

I also happened to order on the 4th, and have had no sign of my  
invisibleSHIELD, either.

I'll drop them an email - sod's law says it'll arrive immediately  
afterwards - but it would be nice to read that you have now found  
them helpful.

Stroller.



On 23 Jul 2008, at 16:02, Bryan DeLuca wrote:

 I cannot comment on the product.  I placed my order on July 4th and  
 aside from the charge to my card and the confirmation of sale email  
 I haven't heard a thing from ZAGG.  I sent their customer service  
 an email on Monday, no reply.  I called them today and their phone  
 line says they are having a company holiday and will be out all day  
 and half of tomorrow.

 Some of the people in my OM buyers group ordered just the screen  
 protectors (I ordered the whole device protection) and received  
 them within a week.  So, my experience hs not been very good thus far.


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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-28 Thread Mike Baroukh
Hi.

I received my FR on friday.
I bought a screen protector for DS.
I just had to cut it a little ...

Mike

Stroller a écrit :
 Hi there,

 Did you ever hear any more of this?

 I also happened to order on the 4th, and have had no sign of my  
 invisibleSHIELD, either.

 I'll drop them an email - sod's law says it'll arrive immediately  
 afterwards - but it would be nice to read that you have now found  
 them helpful.

 Stroller.



 On 23 Jul 2008, at 16:02, Bryan DeLuca wrote:

   
 I cannot comment on the product.  I placed my order on July 4th and  
 aside from the charge to my card and the confirmation of sale email  
 I haven't heard a thing from ZAGG.  I sent their customer service  
 an email on Monday, no reply.  I called them today and their phone  
 line says they are having a company holiday and will be out all day  
 and half of tomorrow.

 Some of the people in my OM buyers group ordered just the screen  
 protectors (I ordered the whole device protection) and received  
 them within a week.  So, my experience hs not been very good thus far.
 


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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-23 Thread Cédric Berger
Hi,
I have installed my (screen  only) invisible shield.

It is not invisible, but quite ok.

Difference in aspect is that it looks less smooth/glossy/slick.   (I'm
french... I just try not to use too wrong words to describe :-) )
And it also has more grip... slipping finger or stylus is less easy.
(a bit like if you try to do it on a rubber eraser)
Though it gets better after it has completely dried... but hard to
compare since I got used to it... (I need another freerunner !)

Oh... something else I noticed : with it, do not use anymore a
ballpoint pen ! Ink will stay on the invisible shield. So take care
with the multifunction stylus.
I could wash out the ink by getting it a little wet and sweeping, but
I do not know if it would have been more difficult if I had waited
longer and it would have dried more...



 AVee wrote:
 On Thursday 17 July 2008 22:49, Brad Pitcher wrote:

 Yes, I'm using the full body shield and I really like it.  It was
 somewhat difficult to apply but worth it.  You don't need to take apart
 the FR and it comes with some spray that makes it so you can make little
 adjustments to the position of the shield directly after application.
 It is a little more reflective than the LCD was without it, but quite
 usable.


 So it the screen protector is a tight fit? I think I'd prefer one which is
 slightly bigger so the edges will disappear under the body. That should make
 it even more invisible...

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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-23 Thread arne anka
 I have installed my (screen  only) invisible shield.

how big is it? fits exactly the visible part of the screen? or does it  
match the real screen size?
and how easy to apply (bubbles and so)?

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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-23 Thread Roland Mas
Cédric Berger, 2008-07-23 14:10:44 +0200 :

 (I'm french... I just try not to use too wrong words to describe :-)

I assume you got it from Zagg; were there any surprises such as
customs/taxes surcharge?  I've been caught quite a few times by
interesting prices that turned up not too interesting after the
customs took their toll :-/

Roland.
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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-23 Thread Cédric Berger
It is quite exactly the visible size of the screen. Very slightly smaller.

It is easy to apply : spray it, apply and adjust (it slips), get
bubbles away with the tool from the invisible shield pack and let
dry...

I sprayed quite a lot (too much ?), and water (well the solution in
the spray) is then wiped out to the edges. Take it away before it gets
into the body and the electronic components.

I think I have some really little bubbles at one point (I would need a
magnifier to check...). But I really didn't struggle when applying.
Manual indicates some micro bubble should go away after 2-3 days.

What took me the more time is cleaning my screen before applying.
Didn't want to protect dirt and smudges.



On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 14:16, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have installed my (screen  only) invisible shield.

 how big is it? fits exactly the visible part of the screen? or does it
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 and how easy to apply (bubbles and so)?


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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-23 Thread arne anka
 Didn't want to protect dirt and smudges.

why not? you never get 'em back -- ta panta rhei!

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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-23 Thread Cédric Berger
I checked before but I do not remember exactly... for something less
than about 20$ (€ ?) there should not be custom taxes from the US.

There still is VAT that should be payed but how to do it... and for only 7$...

Anyway (till now) I had nothing more to pay. Custom might one day
write me a bill to ask for the VAT. In this case I just hope I would
have nothing more to pay (processing fee...).

And I think the package was mailed from UK... so maybe even different
rules (well even less to care for custom taxes I guess)

(I payed via Paypal since my VISA credit card was refused on the order page)


On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 14:28, Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cédric Berger, 2008-07-23 14:10:44 +0200 :

 (I'm french... I just try not to use too wrong words to describe :-)

 I assume you got it from Zagg; were there any surprises such as
 customs/taxes surcharge?  I've been caught quite a few times by
 interesting prices that turned up not too interesting after the
 customs took their toll :-/

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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-23 Thread Bumbl
would you mind posting a photo?

Cédric Berger wrote:
 It is quite exactly the visible size of the screen. Very slightly smaller.

 It is easy to apply : spray it, apply and adjust (it slips), get
 bubbles away with the tool from the invisible shield pack and let
 dry...

 I sprayed quite a lot (too much ?), and water (well the solution in
 the spray) is then wiped out to the edges. Take it away before it gets
 into the body and the electronic components.

 I think I have some really little bubbles at one point (I would need a
 magnifier to check...). But I really didn't struggle when applying.
 Manual indicates some micro bubble should go away after 2-3 days.

 What took me the more time is cleaning my screen before applying.
 Didn't want to protect dirt and smudges.



 On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 14:16, arne anka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I have installed my (screen  only) invisible shield.
   
 how big is it? fits exactly the visible part of the screen? or does it
 match the real screen size?
 and how easy to apply (bubbles and so)?

 

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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-23 Thread Olivier Migeot
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Cédric Berger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 (I payed via Paypal since my VISA credit card was refused on the order page)

My french card was refused too. Strange.

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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-23 Thread Cédric Berger
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 14:45, Bumbl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 would you mind posting a photo?

Well not possible for now, sorry... maybe tonight but I do not know if
I will have time.

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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-23 Thread Cédric DUFOUIL
I ordered one too. I payed via MasterCard (I'm french to)

Didn't receive it yet.

So far, I paid 6.4€ (including bank fees)

(Did you made a report on the french forum http://openmoko-fr.org/forum/ ??
)


On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I checked before but I do not remember exactly... for something less
 than about 20$ (€ ?) there should not be custom taxes from the US.

 There still is VAT that should be payed but how to do it... and for only
 7$...

 Anyway (till now) I had nothing more to pay. Custom might one day
 write me a bill to ask for the VAT. In this case I just hope I would
 have nothing more to pay (processing fee...).

 And I think the package was mailed from UK... so maybe even different
 rules (well even less to care for custom taxes I guess)

 (I payed via Paypal since my VISA credit card was refused on the order
 page)


 On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 14:28, Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Cédric Berger, 2008-07-23 14:10:44 +0200 :
 
  (I'm french... I just try not to use too wrong words to describe :-)
 
  I assume you got it from Zagg; were there any surprises such as
  customs/taxes surcharge?  I've been caught quite a few times by
  interesting prices that turned up not too interesting after the
  customs took their toll :-/
 
  Roland.
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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-23 Thread Bryan DeLuca
I cannot comment on the product.  I placed my order on July 4th and aside from 
the charge to my card and the confirmation of sale email I haven't heard a 
thing from ZAGG.  I sent their customer service an email on Monday, no reply.  
I called them today and their phone line says they are having a company holiday 
and will be out all day and half of tomorrow.

Some of the people in my OM buyers group ordered just the screen protectors (I 
ordered the whole device protection) and received them within a week.  So, my 
experience hs not been very good thus far.

YMMV

-Bryan

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:27:29 +0200
Cédric DUFOUIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I ordered one too. I payed via MasterCard (I'm french to)
 
 Didn't receive it yet.
 
 
 (Did you made a report on the french forum http://openmoko-fr.org/forum/ ??
 )
 
 
 wrote:
 
  I checked before but I do not remember exactly... for something less
 
  There still is VAT that should be payed but how to do it... and for only
  7$...
 
  Anyway (till now) I had nothing more to pay. Custom might one day
  write me a bill to ask for the VAT. In this case I just hope I would
  have nothing more to pay (processing fee...).
 
  And I think the package was mailed from UK... so maybe even different
  rules (well even less to care for custom taxes I guess)
 
  (I payed via Paypal since my VISA credit card was refused on the order
  page)
 
 
  On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 14:28, Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   (I'm french... I just try not to use too wrong words to describe :-)
  
   I assume you got it from Zagg; were there any surprises such as
   customs/taxes surcharge?  I've been caught quite a few times by
   interesting prices that turned up not too interesting after the
   customs took their toll :-/
  
   Roland.
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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-23 Thread Brian C
Søren Kristiansen wrote:
 Hello
 
 As the subject says, has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the
 freerunner?

I received the full-body invisibleSHIELD recently.  I don't have a lot
of patience for tasks like this, but I found the back cover useful and
the screen protector good.  The front cover piece is so flimsy that I
could never get it in the right position and when I came close, to me it
just made the FreeRunner look horrible, so I took it off.  I never even
bothered with the side pieces.  I'm going to have to try to re-apply the
screen piece a few more times because I couldn't get all the air bubbles
out the first time, so those spots will eventually drive me crazy, but I
don't think the glare issue is too bad.  I would prefer a little of that
to a scratched-up screen, anyway.

Brian

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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-23 Thread Adrian Brunton
I assume the general consensus is that the screen only protector is more
desirable than then full body one? Is the full body one necessary? I'm
worried about it being to rubbery to easily slide into a pocket or
something. I'm also worried that the rubbery texture will make the screen
too hard to use, but I guess something will be needed to protect the screen.

Please let me know you thoughts - especially if you got the full body
protector.

2008/7/23 Brian C [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Søren Kristiansen wrote:
  Hello
 
  As the subject says, has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the
  freerunner?

 I received the full-body invisibleSHIELD recently.  I don't have a lot
 of patience for tasks like this, but I found the back cover useful and
 the screen protector good.  The front cover piece is so flimsy that I
 could never get it in the right position and when I came close, to me it
 just made the FreeRunner look horrible, so I took it off.  I never even
 bothered with the side pieces.  I'm going to have to try to re-apply the
 screen piece a few more times because I couldn't get all the air bubbles
 out the first time, so those spots will eventually drive me crazy, but I
 don't think the glare issue is too bad.  I would prefer a little of that
 to a scratched-up screen, anyway.

 Brian

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Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-17 Thread Søren Kristiansen
Hello

As the subject says, has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?
I'm still waiting for my freerunner but I'd like some sort of protection for
it once it arrives.

How invisible is it? I've watched a lot of videos on youtube and on zagg's
homepage and it looks like the shield adds a lot of reflection to the
device.

Is it easy to install on the freerunner? Do you have to open the freerunner
to add, eg. the screen protection? How does the body cover fit on the round
edges on the freerunner?

If anyone didn't know, it's available on zagg's homepage here:
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/openmoko-neo-freerunner-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php

Thanks :-)

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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-17 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Søren Kristiansen wrote:
 Hello
 
 As the subject says, has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the 
 freerunner? I'm still waiting for my freerunner but I'd like some sort 
 of protection for it once it arrives.

I didn't yet. I'm still waiting for its arrive.

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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-17 Thread John Reese
Søren Kristiansen wrote:
 Hello
 
 As the subject says, has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the 
 freerunner? I'm still waiting for my freerunner but I'd like some sort 
 of protection for it once it arrives.
 
 How invisible is it? I've watched a lot of videos on youtube and on 
 zagg's homepage and it looks like the shield adds a lot of reflection to 
 the device.
 
 Is it easy to install on the freerunner? Do you have to open the 
 freerunner to add, eg. the screen protection? How does the body cover 
 fit on the round edges on the freerunner?
 
 If anyone didn't know, it's available on zagg's homepage here: 
 http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/openmoko-neo-freerunner-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
 
 Thanks :-)

I purchased one at the same time that I purchased my Freerunner, but I 
haven't yet applied it.  I was planning to do that tonight or tomorrow. 
  If no-one else has replied by then, I'll let you know how it went.

 From what I've seen by looking at the package, it's specially cut to 
form around the curves of the Neo, but we'll see how well that works out.

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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-17 Thread Brad Pitcher
Yes, I'm using the full body shield and I really like it.  It was 
somewhat difficult to apply but worth it.  You don't need to take apart 
the FR and it comes with some spray that makes it so you can make little 
adjustments to the position of the shield directly after application.  
It is a little more reflective than the LCD was without it, but quite 
usable.
-Brad

Søren Kristiansen wrote:
 Hello

 As the subject says, has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the 
 freerunner? I'm still waiting for my freerunner but I'd like some sort 
 of protection for it once it arrives.

 How invisible is it? I've watched a lot of videos on youtube and on 
 zagg's homepage and it looks like the shield adds a lot of reflection 
 to the device.

 Is it easy to install on the freerunner? Do you have to open the 
 freerunner to add, eg. the screen protection? How does the body cover 
 fit on the round edges on the freerunner?

 If anyone didn't know, it's available on zagg's homepage here: 
 http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/openmoko-neo-freerunner-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php

 Thanks :-)

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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-17 Thread Kelvie Wong
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Brad Pitcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yes, I'm using the full body shield and I really like it.  It was
 somewhat difficult to apply but worth it.  You don't need to take apart
 the FR and it comes with some spray that makes it so you can make little
 adjustments to the position of the shield directly after application.
 It is a little more reflective than the LCD was without it, but quite
 usable.
 -Brad


I've had a similar product (from bestskinsever.com) on my iPod Touch
(which I hope to retire soon :) and my only concern would be, wouldn't
this product make the screen not smooth anymore?  It would be rather
hard to make smooth movements with a stylus on it, as it has a more
grippy feel.

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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-17 Thread AVee
On Thursday 17 July 2008 22:49, Brad Pitcher wrote:
 Yes, I'm using the full body shield and I really like it.  It was
 somewhat difficult to apply but worth it.  You don't need to take apart
 the FR and it comes with some spray that makes it so you can make little
 adjustments to the position of the shield directly after application.
 It is a little more reflective than the LCD was without it, but quite
 usable.

So it the screen protector is a tight fit? I think I'd prefer one which is 
slightly bigger so the edges will disappear under the body. That should make 
it even more invisible...

AVee

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Re: Has anyone tried the invisibleSHIELD on the freerunner?

2008-07-17 Thread Brad Pitcher
It barely fits without taking the FR apart, but you can still see the 
edge s if you look.  Also, dust tends to gather around the edges just a 
little bit.

AVee wrote:
 On Thursday 17 July 2008 22:49, Brad Pitcher wrote:
   
 Yes, I'm using the full body shield and I really like it.  It was
 somewhat difficult to apply but worth it.  You don't need to take apart
 the FR and it comes with some spray that makes it so you can make little
 adjustments to the position of the shield directly after application.
 It is a little more reflective than the LCD was without it, but quite
 usable.
 

 So it the screen protector is a tight fit? I think I'd prefer one which is 
 slightly bigger so the edges will disappear under the body. That should make 
 it even more invisible...

 AVee

   


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Has anyone...

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Re: Has anyone...

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I haven't. I'm hoping to see a UPS tracking number first, though.
I imagine that there's still some logistics being worked out and that 
phones are at least a couple of days away from leaving FIC in the US.


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Re: Has anyone...

2007-07-23 Thread Kishore AVV

guess thats a question on lots of people's minds ...
we should just hang on ... being the first in any domain is difficult ...
think, moko's done a great job about being open ... lets see how far the 
rabbit hole goes ;)


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Re: Has anyone...

2007-07-23 Thread Arndt Heuvel
Am Montag, 23. Juli 2007 21:41 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 ...had their purchased phone arrive yet??

Believe me, no need to ask. If that happens you will see a lot of
messages with yeeepeee and smilies arround. :-)

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