Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Congratulations to the new Chair & Vice-Chair of AFRINIC

the issue of the election challenges is heard properly. So yes – people are asking questions – and not without cause – questions that every member has a right to – and probably should – be asking at every stage. Andrew From: Noah Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2022 1:57 PM To: Andrew Alston Cc: Mark

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Congratulations to the new Chair & Vice-Chair of AFRINIC

s the room - the last two can call a meeting, see that there is no quorum, send notice to the third, adjourn the meeting and then after at least 24 hours, conduct a meeting in quorum assuming then that there are at least three Board members. If this happens - it must be minuted. On 6/8/22 6:36

Re: [Community-Discuss] Congratulations to the new Chair & Vice-Chair of AFRINIC

Hi Owen, Well - it depends. If a non-quorate meeting was called and then adjourned for 24 hours and reconvened they would gain quorum under the bylaws. The question becomes - and this is where I am uncertain and believe it is open to debate - can a meeting be called knowing full well that

Re: [Community-Discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

Consider it like this - In a corporate - there is a thing called a delegation of authority. Multiple individuals may have delegated authority to do a single task. For example, if you look at the board resolution that sets up the AfriNIC reserve fund - there is delegation of authority to

Re: [Community-Discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

In regards to the below thread - let me point out that at the agmm - the entire board was on stage. When questions were asked of the board - they were deferred to the individual best positioned to answer them (or best positioned to avoid answering them - take your pick) Effectively - the

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

No Ronald, They do however contain billions in dark money, massive amounts of shadowy lobby groups, the occasional invasion of a building, maybe a few people baying to hang someone, 846 (so far) arrests, a years worth of hearings need I go on? Andrew Get Outlook for

Re: [Community-Discuss] Binding Arbitration

Andrew From: Ronald F. Guilmette Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2022 10:46 PM Cc: community-discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Binding Arbitration In message mailto:am7pr03mb64518aa49ef7dc537b929d9cee...@am7pr03mb6451.eurprd03.prod.%0boutlook.com>>, Andrew Alston mailto:andr

Re: [Community-Discuss] Binding Arbitration

My issue here is – I am not convinced that you can use arbitration to step around the law. When the companies act has rules – you cannot use arbitration to violate the companies act. When the bylaws create rules – and the company violates those rules – arbitration to allow them to violate the

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

wasted by forcing members into a position where litigation was the only option Andrew Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Noah Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 10:17:54 PM To: Andrew Alston Cc: AFRINIC Communication ; AFRINIC Community Discuss ; A

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

That section of the bylaws - is drawn directly from the companies act and deals explicitly with proxies - it does not deal with multiple admin contacts. In the context of AfriNIC because if the way it is structured - members are effectively shareholders. I’d you read section 115 of the

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

long standing precedent and the fact that no such restrictions exist in either the bylaws or section 115 of the companies act Andrew Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Ish Sookun Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2022 21:27 To: Andrew Alston Cc: A

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

Why is there a restriction on multiple members from the same organization attending online - as stated we understand the physical restrictions - but the online restriction does not make sense. If you look closely at the clauses you specify - it refers to a corporate body - a corporate body is

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] ATTENDANCE & PARTICIPATION AT THE ANNUAL GENERAL MEMBERS’ MEETING (AGMM)

disrespected that we are thought of as stupid that we will buy this nonsense? Andrew Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Ish Sookun Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2022 21:18 To: AFRINIC Communication Cc: Andrew Alston ; le...@afrinic.net ; member

Re: [Community-Discuss] Comments from GovCom Communique

I think – the real problem distilled – is that if the board has the power to adjust a term – outside of any provision in the bylaws that limit that power – there is nothing codified that stops them extending a seat for 6 years – or 9 years – or making it perpetual. Far fetched? Maybe. With

Re: [Community-Discuss] Comments from GovCom Communique

We also note that even if this nonsense being stated is true - that resolves 1 outta 3 missing seats… There is a long, by meatloaf, it says “2 outta 3 ain’t bad” - well - we ain’t even got to that yet - and I would hope to hell that we strive for better anyway. Remember - one rigged election

Re: [Community-Discuss] Comments from GovCom Communique

Except - this govcom - hasn’t read the law. If indeed you are claiming that the election to a 2-year term was invalid per the bylaws - then in effect, you are claiming that the election of said director was invalid in entirety. So let’s go with that for a second, if that’s the case acts of

Re: [Community-Discuss] Objection to the notice of AFRINIC AGMM 2022

Dear Board, Legal Advisors, I have been informed by several sources (who were not the ones that filed for what I heard exists) that AfriNIC was served papers from the courts in the last 24 hours that ordered them amongst other things to make an announcement by close of business - which has now

Re: [Community-Discuss] ID verification on the Database Working Group mailing list

Sander - You and I agree on many things - we will differ on this one. If you wish to show your identity documents to AfriNIC though that is your choice - but it is a choice - me? I choose not to show a document which contains sensitive information to just anyone. My birthday - they can have -

Re: [Community-Discuss] ID verification on the Database Working Group mailing list

_ From: Anthony Ubah Sent: Monday, January 24, 2022 4:32:17 PM To: Andrew Alston ; Mike Silber ; Ben Maddison ; JORDI PALET MARTINEZ Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] ID verification on the Database Working Group mailing list Hi, Permit me to

Re: [Community-Discuss] ID verification on the Database Working Group mailing list

kef> From: Ben Maddison Sent: Monday, January 24, 2022 13:09 To: Mike Silber Cc: Andrew Alston; General Discussions of AFRINIC Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] ID verification on the Database Working Group mailing list Hi Mike, On 01/24, Mike Silber wrote: > [...] > > On 24 Jan

Re: [Community-Discuss] ID verification on the Database Working Group mailing list

Monday, January 24, 2022 11:43:51 AM To: Andrew Alston Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] ID verification on the Database Working Group mailing list Andrew You make some good points. Not sure if the IETF also has an issue with sock-puppets, astroturfing and posters

[Community-Discuss] ID verification on the Database Working Group mailing list

If AfriNIC chooses to remove me from the lists because I refuse to hand over ID documents – while they are quite ok with taking my money as an authorized admin contact – then in effect, they are no longer providing the service that a full RIR providers to other members, based on a requirement

Re: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: DEFAMATION AGAINST MR. LU HENG :-/

kef> From: Noah Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 9:13:03 PM To: Andrew Alston Cc: Boubakar Barry ; General Discussions of AFRINIC Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: DEFAMATION AGAINST MR. LU HENG :-/ On Tue, 4 Jan 2022, 20:39 Andrew Alston, mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelec

Re: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: DEFAMATION AGAINST MR. LU HENG :-/

or proven - is defamatory. It’s pretty simple really - just - don’t do it Andrew Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Boubakar Barry Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2022 4:44:29 PM To: Andrew Alston Cc: Noah ; General Discussions of AFRINIC Subje

Re: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: DEFAMATION AGAINST MR. LU HENG :-/

Firstly – generally not a good idea to air such things on a public mailing list – that’s just common sense. Secondly – there is a vast difference between a contradictory view – and calling someone a criminal when they have not been found guilty of any crime – the former is acceptable – the

Re: [Community-Discuss] The NRS at it again with endless lobbying

ursday, December 9, 2021 10:33:39 PM To: Andrew Alston Cc: Saul Stein ; General Discussions of AFRINIC Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] The NRS at it again with endless lobbying Hey Andrew, So speaking of evidence in relation to NRS and LARUS Ltd. * I have in the past received emails & call

Re: [Community-Discuss] The NRS at it again with endless lobbying

age you do to their reputation in the process - at the very least AfriNIC can enforce their own code of conduct Andrew Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Noah Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 11:10:44 AM To: Andrew Alston Cc: Saul Stein ; General Discus

Re: [Community-Discuss] The NRS at it again with endless lobbying

My question is - what business is it of yours what their motives are. Any company or any institution is free to offer promotional services as they see fit. If you have proof that they are not giving what they claim - that would constitute offering something not provided. Until then - you can

Re: [Community-Discuss] FUNDRAISING & DONATIONS - TO KEEP AFRINIC RUNNING

– that may be uncomfortable to answer – but saying that we should just trust – without any firm answers – in light of the situation – well – I have to say that personally – I find that a little hard to swallow Andrew From: John Curran Date: Wednesday, 18 August 2021 at 20:26 To: Andrew Alston Cc

Re: [Community-Discuss] FUNDRAISING & DONATIONS - TO KEEP AFRINIC RUNNING

indeed be under the control of an administrator – that is something we need to know before we start donating money. Andrew From: John Curran Date: Wednesday, 18 August 2021 at 16:09 To: Andrew Alston Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] FUNDRAISING & DONAT

Re: [Community-Discuss] FUNDRAISING & DONATIONS - TO KEEP AFRINIC RUNNING

to the people who have to answer. Andrew From: John Curran Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2021 2:49 PM To: Andrew Alston Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] FUNDRAISING & DONATIONS - TO KEEP AFRINIC RUNNING On 18 Aug 2021, at 3:17 AM, Andrew Alston via Community-Dis

Re: [Community-Discuss] FUNDRAISING & DONATIONS - TO KEEP AFRINIC RUNNING

Not being a lawyer – I would actually like to know the legal position on this – because here is the way I see this. AfriNIC has a contingent liability on their books of $50m dollars right now – and a net worth far below that. Incurring any further debt – with no guarantee of success in the

Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

tps://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Noah Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 00:26 To: Andrew Alston Cc: Owen DeLong; Community Discuss; Members Discuss Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs On Mon, 2 Aug 2021, 00:06

Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

tps://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Noah Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 11:48:48 PM To: Andrew Alston Cc: Owen DeLong ; Community Discuss ; Members Discuss Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs Hi Andrew, On Sun, Aug 1

Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

> It remains Andrew's personal opinion and not the consensus of 75% of the > membership base. Can I suggest as a compromise position we then test this theory by putting the question of transfers to a member vote passed or failed by simple majority? This worked for ripe with rpki when they

Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

Andrew Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Noah Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2021 4:06:29 PM To: Andrew Alston Cc: Taiwo Oye ; Paul Wollner ; Community Discuss ; Members Discuss Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry s

Re: [Community-Discuss] Call for AFRINIC’s registry service migration to other RIRs

It is my (personal) view that AfriNIC board should exercise their powers and pass a transfer policy. Let those who wish to run the risks of staying with AfriNIC through this situation do so - let those who choose not to accept the risk profile transfer out - problem solved. It is entirely

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] STATEMENT OF TANZANIA ISP ASSOCIATION (TISPA) - Regarding AFRINIC

Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> From: Noah Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 1:41:20 PM To: Andrew Alston Cc: Paul Wollner ; Community Discuss ; AfriNIC Discuss Subject: Re: [members-discuss] STATEMENT OF TANZANIA ISP ASSOCIATION (TISPA) -Reg

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] STATEMENT OF TANZANIA ISP ASSOCIATION (TISPA) - Regarding AFRINIC

Noah - let me just be clear on something. Do you claim to speak for TISPA and all its members? Are you claiming that all TISPA members endorse AfriNIC and it’s behavior in this matter? I just want clarification on this… Andrew Get Outlook for iOS

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

Code of conduct call again - this mail is blatantly libelous Andrew Get Outlook for iOS From: DANIEL NANGHAKA Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 17:06 To: Leo S Cc: Community Discuss Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

Code of conduct - this message implies corruption that is unproved on the part of both CI and previous management. Can we stop with the unjustified attacks and mud slinging please Andrew Get Outlook for iOS From: Leo S Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business

I’m a little confused - can you clarify which part of what post is a personal attack - there are multiple posts in this thread. The statement about people don’t wanting africa to succeed would be my guess but I wanna be sure Andrew Get Outlook for iOS

Re: [Community-Discuss] Share About Cloud Innovation Ltd and their business

What absolute nonsense - unless there is an NDA protecting the relationship people are free to disclose. That’s like saying I can’t state that I buy jeans from party X - internet services from party Y - or eat a particular brand of chocolate. Sorry unless there are confidentiality clauses in

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

If the board is incurring debt and loaning money against frozen bank accounts with no guarantee of the ability to repay those loans - that’s textbook recklesss trading and almost certainly illegal Andrew Get Outlook for iOS From: JORDI

Re: [Community-Discuss] [members-discuss] Update on legal case

Sorry - the board doesn’t get credit for finding a potential workaround out of a hole they dug by themselves - that’s the equivalent of saying you congratulate the guy who jumped off a cliff with no parachute and some how survived. Andrew Get Outlook for iOS

[Community-Discuss] Use of space outside of application

I have one question - and I'm going to keep this brief. If AfriNIC wants to reclaim space based on it not being used as originally applied for - 1. Are AfriNIC going to go after every member who applied for space for use on dial up systems more than a decade ago - and repurposed that space

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINC being sued

And this gets even more complicated. Please remember that all attachments to all tickets pre a certain date at AfriNIC were lost in a data corruption incident, hence – if most of these organizations ever signed an RSA – AfriNIC almost certainly doesn’t have it. Also – when these transfers

Re: [Community-Discuss] Ongoing thefts of AFRINIC Legacy Resources -- Ongoing collusion?

As far as I know, EU-PI, as Frank has already stated, are end users with provider independent space - an entirely legitimate category. Member-Only MAY refer to legacy resource organizations - I.E those who have legacy resources that, because of their legacy status, are not billed for, and

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINC being sued

Jordi, “All the involved resource-holders should lose their rights” This assumes that the resource-holders who have legitimate rights to the IP space had any awareness of the transfers – which in this case is not reality – the transfers were illegitimate the IP space was stolen from the

Re: [Community-Discuss] NomCom Chairs Private Message

Quite frankly without the alleged communication and evidence - I consider this entire thread spurious and a waste of time - and it should probably head straight to dev/null where I will now place it - especially considering it’s source - Hi Benjamin. Andrew Get Outlook for

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

I also have significant concerns about what was said here. Fact - the issue of stolen IP address space was raised with AfriNIC - AFTER Alan left - and a block was recovered. I have email trails and personally had conversations with board members post the leaving of the former CEO about this.

Re: [Community-Discuss] The Looting of AFRINIC

I would be very curious to hear from a legal perspective what - if any - legal liability AfriNIC has in a situation like this. The fact is - space has value - and if space is stolen - used for spam or whatever else - and the reputation of said space is damaged - it’s value decreases. Now I

Re: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: AFRINIC-31 Meeting

of their actions Andrew From: Mark Tinka Date: Sunday, 17 November 2019 at 13:44 To: Andrew Alston , "community-discuss@afrinic.net" Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: AFRINIC-31 Meeting Thanks, Andrew. Makes sense to me, but only if both the brokers and the interested RIR memb

Re: [Community-Discuss] Fwd: AFRINIC-31 Meeting

Personally I have another take on this - I do not agree with spam - or harvesting emails - period - so will start there. I do however think that it may be worth considering an opt in/opt out list for attendees of AfriNIC meetings where people who wish to promote services or give general

Re: [Community-Discuss] Operational Matters

Just one note. The bylaws explicitly delegate HR, including renumeration of all staff to the CEO with the exception of his own position and other C level positions. (Section 17 of the bylaws) Andrew From: Ali Hussein Sent: Friday, 8 November 2019 10:38 To: Mark Tinka Cc: General

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC legacy space ownership manipulation

Arnaud, Actually – firstly – you refer to former board members being “keen in violating the rules of separation of roles” – please – can you justify that and supply exact examples. Because – that’s an unfounded statement with zero justification other than hyperbole. So – I invite you to

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC legacy space ownership manipulation

I have to wholeheartedly agree. I believe that the CEO should be allowed to, and empowered to speak to the community on any and all operational issues without interference from the board and without approval from the board. Anything else shows a lack of trust in the CEO by the board – in

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

F > T/F: (249)122045707/187171355 > > *From:* Sami Salih mailto:sami.sa...@outlook.com>> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 3, 2019 4:54 PM > *To:* Andrew Alston; Sander Steffann > *Cc:* Sander Steffann; > Commun

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Lobbying Allegations against Wafa Dahmani

Wafa, While I agree you have the right to campaign for anyone you so please – and I believe that is very much the case – 1. Your email was read as an implication that the ASO was supporting said candidates – which I don’t think anyone believes – and the question has been asked in multiple

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

portrays itself as an abuse of position. So – won’t ever? Er I see at least 3 instances in the last few minutes  Andrew From: Sami Salih Sent: Wednesday, 3 July 2019 15:10 To: Andrew Alston ; Ahmed Fadl ; wafa Dahmani ; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net Subject: Re: AFRINIC Borad Elections I'm

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

)122045707/187171355 ________ From: Andrew Alston mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2019 2:28 PM To: Ahmed Fadl; wafa Dahmani; Community-Discuss@afrinic.net<mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections Thi

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections

This email raises so many questions. While as I have clearly stated – I do not have ANY problem with anyone lobbying on behalf of candidates and their beliefs – however – I have serious issues when other groups that are meant to be neutral start doing this. As such, I need some clarity based

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

Just one final thought on this – “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it” – Evelyn Beatrice Hall (Friends of Voltaire, 1906) Andrew From: Andrew Alston Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2019 15:34 To: wafa DAHMANI ; community-discuss@afrinic.net Cc: r

Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship

Wafa, So – let me say this. I see a document here – which lays out the policies – and provides a perspective of problems, it also lists the pros and cons. Yes, Lazarus may have used the foundation to lobby for its position, but – one of the things that I have long accepted in my life is – if

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

ya. Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 12:19 PM Andrew Alston mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> wrote: I have another ques

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

Ali, Solutions have been proposed – over and over and over again. They have been ignored – it is a sad day Andrew From: Ali Hussein Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2019 12:46 To: General Discussions of AFRINIC Cc: aleruchich...@yahoo.com; benjamin.le...@gmail.com; Andrew Alston Subject: Re

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

ources would be very expensive perhaps not affordable too or to go to RIPE or ARIN. The two groups are, on one side, white South African led by Mr. Andrew Alston of Liquid Telecom with their allies Mark Elkins and Owen Delong, and on the other side, Lu with his Foundation from China. WHAT ARE ISSUES

Re: [Community-Discuss] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

it has to get it in the black markets where those resources would be very expensive perhaps not affordable too or to go to RIPE or ARIN. The two groups are, on one side, white South African led by Mr. Andrew Alston of Liquid Telecom with their allies Mark Elkins and Owen Delong, and on the othe

Re: [Community-Discuss] Intelligence for AIS-19 Kampala No 1

arkets where those resources would be very expensive perhaps not affordable too or to go to RIPE or ARIN. The two groups are, on one side, white South African led by Mr. Andrew Alston of Liquid Telecom with their allies Mark Elkins and Owen Delong, and on the other side, Lu with his Foundatio

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Interim CEO

in by special resolution in Mauritius with a super majority vote? Andrew From: John Walu Sent: Monday, 17 June 2019 17:34 To: Andrew Alston Cc: Sander Steffann ; General Discussions of AFRINIC Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Interim CEO Ok. I knew I was missing something...or something

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Interim CEO

How does that gel with clause 17.3 of the bylaws that state that the CEO's position must be held by a non-Mauritian and with the resolution that was passed in November of 2015 which explicitly demand that a CFO be in existence because it requires the signature of a CFO to access certain bank

Re: [Community-Discuss] Gratitude

Ish, I point you to the companies act of 2001, section 225 sub-section 2(d) which states that ANY person upon serving written notice on the company of his intention to inspect the records shall be given access to the full names and residential addresses of directors. The companies act makes

Re: [Community-Discuss] Announcement for Final Candidate Slate for Open Seat on AFRINIC Governance Committee

Noah, Section 13.8 exists in specific circumstance – to fill a casual vacancy – which is only valid until the date of the next election. So yes – in the event of none of the above – the board has the right to appoint for a limited period – not a full 3 year term. Do I believe that is right?

Re: [Community-Discuss] Announcement for Final Candidate Slate for Open Seat on AFRINIC Governance Committee

Saul, you are correct. However, there is an extension to this – remember – the board appoints the nomcom – they are in effect – a form of board committee. Furthermore the board approves the slate. Furthermore – the board are the ones that unilaterally – against many objections on these lists

Re: [Community-Discuss] Commencement of the public comments period for the 2019 Board elections

While we thank the Nomcom for the publication of slate – we note that 1. This has not gone to the members list who are the ones who carry the vote 2. A special resolution has been tabled that will give the members the right to decide to accept this delay or reject it – that special

Re: [Community-Discuss] Gratitude

Thank you Alan, Now – I would like to break this down a bit – firstly – every directory is signatory to this document – and by signing it – have acknowledged – under their own hand – their knowledge of its contents. There can be no claim that the contents of this document once signed by a

Re: [Community-Discuss] Gratitude

in light of what is in those documents. Andrew From: John Walu mailto:walu.j...@gmail.com>> Date: Friday, May 31, 2019 at 11:08 AM To: Andrew Alston mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> Cc: "community-discuss@afrinic.net<mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>&quo

Re: [Community-Discuss] Gratitude

way out for the AfriNIC community is if the whole board > resigns - just leave the CEO. Andrew has got it right. > > On 2019/05/28 14:36, Andrew Alston wrote: >> >> Benjamin, >> >> >> >> Let’s see – you have a public document – a document that is clearly

Re: [Community-Discuss] Gratitude (off-topic)

Is the board prepared to share the full unredacted accountability assessment with the community – if it has not already been done (I don’t recall it have being done so) After all – if there is a report about how accountable Afrinic is to its members – I think it would be good for the members

Re: [Community-Discuss] Gratitude

Benjamin, Let’s see – you have a public document – a document that is clearly and totally in the public domain. You have an individual who was a named party in that document – who chose to share that document. You have an active attempt by the board to sanction that individual for engaging

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC 2019 AGMM quorum

insinuations and ad hominem attacks with no evidence are both boring – invalid – and a waste of the couple of bytes each email takes in our inboxes Andrew From: "Marcus K. G. Adomey" Date: Saturday, 23 February 2019 at 16:39 To: Alan Barrett , General Discussions of AFRINIC , Andrew Alsto

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC 2019 AGMM quorum

K. G. Adomey" Date: Saturday, 23 February 2019 at 10:30 To: Alan Barrett , General Discussions of AFRINIC , Andrew Alston Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC 2019 AGMM quorum Dear Community, As we are getting closer to AFRINIC-2019 AGMM, destructive elements have woken up again a

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC 2019 AGMM quorum

Some English definitions: Optimism - Hopefulness and confidence about the future or the success of something Realism - The attitude or practice of accepting a situation as it is and being prepared to deal with it accordingly Pessimism - A tendency to see the worst aspect of things or believe

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC 2019 AGMM quorum

I am also waiting for an acknowledgement of this request – I requested the same thing from the members list and via the board – and there is deafening silence. It concerns me that AFRINIC seems to believe that they can make claims about court orders – but despite the fact that by law these

Re: [Community-Discuss] AfriNIC whois servers down

to this community - but the page that is meant to tell us if there is a problem - is malfunctioning to report no errors. Andrew From: Andrew Alston Sent: 05 February 2019 09:53 To: General Discussions of AFRINIC Cc: service-supp...@afrinic.net; hostmas...@afrinic.net Subject: [Community-Discuss

[Community-Discuss] AfriNIC whois servers down

Hi AfriNIC Community, I am deliberately posting this to the community mailing list - since this issue affects *everyone* and is not a isolated issue that I will send via a normal ticket (though I have copied in AfriNIC support as well) I noticed this morning that AFRINIC whois servers are not

Re: [Community-Discuss] Current violations to be investigated by AFRINIC

Actually - this discussion has been had before - there is no requirement to announce space assigned Into the DFZ and there are multiple reasons why you need non RFC1918 space and do not announce it. There is no distinction between announced space and unannounced space - the criteria is that

Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -

To: Andrew Alston; Chevalier du Borg; Jackson Muthili Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting - Andrew , You seem to be mixing things and on purpose. Whether the initial submission documents are missing or that policies do

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Just for clarity – If space was allocated before the soft landing policy came into force – there was no policy whatsoever that prohibited off continent use of space – so – if you got space from AFRINIC – under the allocation policies – you could use it off continent If an African registered

Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -

You know what amuses me about this whole thread. One of the concerns raised about this policy – time and again – is that it would be used to selectively target people. Then – we were told that wasn’t the case – and the policy was made to refer to random selection and evidence base etc. Yet

Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -

: Badru Ntege Date: Wednesday, 12 December 2018 at 07:01 To: Chevalier du Borg , Andrew Alston Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting - From: Chevalier du Borg Date: Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 1:42 PM To: Andrew

Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -

The argument about conflict is simply non-sensical, since any person holding IP space on the continent is potentially conflicted in ANY policy through the PDP. The point of the PDP is to create policies which self-govern the use of resources by members who hold the resources – that means that

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* If OIF were try to put french citizen people on AFRINIC board, your argument will make sense. It is not. If you have evidence to show it has, please share and tell us how they benefit from it. Actually this claim concerns me more than anything and highlights everything I believe is wrong

Re: [Community-Discuss] Issue with non-AFRINIC Fellowship to Meeting -

My issue is this... On the one hand - it has been stated on this list that if all delegates sponsored by organization X it is corruption. Firstly that is a totally specious argument that has zero basis in reality. If an idea is bad and multiple people disagree with it and oppose it - that may

Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about AfriNIC Allocations

less than 1200 are visible in the DFZ. Andrew Liquid Telecommunications - Group Head Of IP Strategy From: Chevalier du Borg Sent: Sunday, December 9, 2018 09:08 To: Andrew Alston Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions

Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Board approves new election process and guidelines

1. The 2. “None of the above” option has been removed. 1. So the board refuses to put to the floor a vote of no confidence in themselves – Then – the board refuses to call an SGMM to fix the quorum problems that resulted from members rejecting them because of their own actions – now –

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Sami's status as a co-chair

Sunday, I need to set the record straight and ask you to retract a part of what you said below. for the job no one else wants to do This is simply not accurate – there was a candidate – the community chose not to accept that candidate – but someone did want the job – and to say otherwise is

Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Sami's status as a co-chair

refer to my previous email about members of this community engaging in “whataboutism” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism) – this is case in point. Andrew From: Arnaud AMELINA Sent: 06 December 2018 09:07 To: Andrew Alston Cc: abel ELITCHA ; rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy ; G

Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about AfriNIC Allocations

as a former board member has any relevance in any participation I make since the day I left the board. So please – do not even TRY and hold that one over my head – it doesn’t hold any water with me. Andrew From: Komi Elitcha Date: Tuesday, 4 December 2018 at 19:34 To: Andrew Alston

Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about AfriNIC Allocations

Hi Andrew, > At 11:24 PM 03-12-2018, Andrew Alston wrote: >> Now – I realize this is still early December 2018 – but we’re almost >> at the end of the year and unless there are a LOT of ASN’s about to be >> issued – I see that AFRINIC is running at a lower ASN allocation rate >

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