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Why is the community continuing to speculate on this issue when it is already being dealt with by a committee of the board? Do we not have confidence in the process? And if not is there a better way? Let's not second guess the team guys.. *Ali Hussein* *Principal* *AHK & Associates* Tel:

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On Tue, 27 Mar 2018, 7:26 p.m. Chevalier du Borg, wrote: > > > 2018-03-26 17:30 GMT+01:00 damola olajide : > >> >> >> I have doubts regarding the outcome of the independent investigations in >> the light as to how this complaint was handled by

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2018-03-26 17:30 GMT+01:00 damola olajide : > > > I have doubts regarding the outcome of the independent investigations in > the light as to how this complaint was handled by Afrinic HR (Mr Yavisht > Toolseeya). > Those two thing are totally not related to one another. I

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Arnaud, I agree with disengaging from this discussion. The discussion is not necessary if there is an effective Information Classification and Handling policy in place. Regards. Jean-Robert Hountomey. On 3/27/18 5:01 AM, Arnaud AMELINA wrote: > > Hi, Community > > Enough is enough... The

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Abibu Thanks for pointing this out. This community is degenerating to something that is not nice at all. I believe we can all agree or disagree in a civil manner without resorting to some of the language being used on this list. It is unbecoming of all of us. Let us respect each other, the

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Dear Owen, Miriam and the whole community, I would like to remind you and draw your attention to the Afrinic community code of conduct: https://afrinic.net/en/community/code-of-conduct. I wouldn't like to point fingers and list who said what as I believe the code of conduct is very clear and

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Hi, Community Enough is enough... The discussions and opinions expressed by Owen showed once again who he is and what are his intentions and goals about Afrinic success... we all remember his thoughts and almost insults to Afrinic pioneers ( Vaporware. ..). Let us ignore him, but always

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> On Mar 27, 2018, at 00:26 , Mirriam wrote: > > Owen > > Please give the community members who called for Sundays resignation some > respect will you! My objection was not to those calling for his resignation. It was to those calling for his dismissal from the

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Owen Please give the community members who called for Sundays resignation some respect will you! We are not a mob, but intelligent enough people to know what is wrong and what is right.  Someone admits to wrong doing and members of the community come out to ask for his resignation as due

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> On Mar 25, 2018, at 00:07 , Badru Ntege wrote: > > Owen > > I like your attempt to get scientific here. Up until a certain email was > publicly shared and read by most of us who are responding we had no opinions > on this issue. Fair enough. > We are all

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don’t need it. Keep it to yourself because it is > disgusting. > > > > More vaporware!!! > > > > > > > > Marcus > > > > From: Badru Ntege <badru.nt...@nftconsult.com > <mailto:badru.nt...@nftconsult.com>> > Sent: Sunday, M

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> On Mar 25, 2018, at 11:53 , Arnaud AMELINA wrote: > > Owen, > > In what capacity are you writting? as a simple community member or Reverend > Sunday's lawyer? Since I am not now, nor have I ever been a lawyer, this seems a rather silly question. Against my better

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Hello I spent several days and read everyone emails as well as the internal staff complaints that were disclosed publicly. I appreciate and respect everyone comments. I have doubts regarding the outcome of the independent investigations in the light as to how this complaint was handled by

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Owen, In what capacity are you writting? as a simple community member or Reverend Sunday's lawyer? The reason i ask is because the ardor you put in defending the defendants surprises me a lot. Why don't you let the reverend defend himself! He is mature enough and has been chairing the board

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ge <badru.nt...@nftconsult.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 7:07:39 AM > *To:* Owen DeLong > *Cc:* General > *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment > > Owen > > I like your attempt to get scientific here. Up until a certain email was > pub

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cus From: Badru Ntege <badru.nt...@nftconsult.com> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 7:07:39 AM To: Owen DeLong Cc: General Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment Owen I like your attempt to get scientific here. Up until a certain email was publicly shared

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Owen I like your attempt to get scientific here. Up until a certain email was publicly shared and read by most of us who are responding we had no opinions on this issue. We are all reasonably intelligent to make our own conclusions on the matter at hand. In any part of the world it is not

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> On Mar 22, 2018, at 21:41 , Badru Ntege wrote: > > > One becomes a board member as result of the will of the community through an > election. The ultimate owner of AFRINIC is the community. Technically, this is not quite accurate. One becomes a board member

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> On 23 Mar 2018, at 00:46, Raz BIRAMAH wrote: > > Dear Alan, are you then saying that NDA violation is still an « allegation » > that need to be investigated? NDA violation is an allegation that has been made by some in the community. The actions that give rise to the

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One becomes a board member as result of the will of the community through an election. The ultimate owner of AFRINIC is the community. The community is saying it has lost faith in the office bearer investigation or not since what the office bearer has admitted to is enough for community to

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Why is judgment being pass without investigation and hearing? Why are some people eager to be the hangmen without due process? I believe in justice, and it can only be obtained or dispersed through due process. We can not be passing judgment of yet to be proofed allegations. So let follow due

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.com > <mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com>> > Sent: 22 March 2018 04:23 PM > To: Alan Barrett <alan.barr...@afrinic.net > <mailto:alan.barr...@afrinic.net>>; General Discussions of AFRINIC > <community-discuss@afrinic.net <mailto:community-discuss@afrinic

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On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 6:30 PM, Noah wrote: > > Sunday went on. > >> I do acknowledge that I shared a chat (with the best intentions) which > should have been treated with more caution, no matter how good the > intention was. > > You seem to be unbothered that a board member

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Olutaya On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, 7:25 p.m. Sunday Olutayo, wrote: > I believe in justice, and it can only be obtained or dispersed through due > process. > Sunday wrote. While I categorically deny any claims of any harassment levied at me, and believe these allegations are

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> On Mar 22, 2018, at 07:08, Evelyn Namara wrote: > > Dear all, > > I seem to get a general sense that the sexual allegations are a lesser > concern to this community than the NDA violation. To me, both offenses carry > the same weight and > therefore should be treated

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This is not the point where we should be begging we all know what transpires when there is a breach of NDA and all the emails have clearly justified, AFRINIC is run by the community, is this the example that our leaders are giving to to the community? The community has spoken and there clear

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This seems to be handled lightly by the board. "Solidarity"? Very inappropriate. If it doesn't act _now_, the community should take its responsibility and request a replacement of the full board in Dakar. Boubakar On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 3:39 PM, Noah wrote: > On Thu, 22 Mar

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On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, 5:57 p.m. Wayne Diamond, wrote: > > Some body from the AfriNic board that is *NOT* implicated in either the > harassment or breach of NDA needs to take control *now* and make a > decisive statement to the community in the very near future (as in 72 >

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> On 22 Mar 2018, at 18:54, Andrew Alston > wrote: > > Alan, > > Can the board then please provide an updated resolution that says that- > because that is NOT what the resolution currently says – > > The resolution reads: > > RESOLVED to request the

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...@afrinic.net] Sent: 22 March 2018 17:43 To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment > On 22 Mar 2018, at 18:23, Andrew Alston > <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:andrew.als...@liquidtele

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gt;; General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment And see - Sorry Alan, but I view this as entirely unacceptable. There is precedent at play here - when the NDA violations in the past were admitted - board members we

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> On 22 Mar 2018, at 18:23, Andrew Alston > wrote: > > The GC has been tasked to report back to the board with TOR’s – that does not > even finalize the investigation – that means effectively that the > investigation may not start until the 1st of May No,

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- in which case - is it perhaps time for the community to take stronger action Andrew From: Alan Barrett [mailto:alan.barr...@afrinic.net] Sent: 22 March 2018 17:16 To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment Dear

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Hi Evelyn, > I seem to get a general sense that the sexual allegations are a lesser > concern to this community than the NDA violation. To me, both offenses carry > the same weight and therefore should be treated with the same level of > urgency. I personally feel that the sexual allegations

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Dear Evelyn, Regardless of which allegations are of more or less concern to the community, all allegations will be investigated. As the community was informed earlier, the Board has asked the Governance Committee to report back to the Board by 30 April 2018. Alan Barrett

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Dear all, I seem to get a general sense that the sexual allegations are a lesser concern to this community than the NDA violation. To me, both offenses carry the same weight and therefore should be treated with the same level of urgency. One of the reasons more women are not in this tech

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Sorry, Someone remind me, what was the allegation against Hytham again? walu. On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 3:28 PM, Isabel Odida wrote: > Dear community members, > > I am in full agreement with you Barry! > Dear Sunday, > 1. You are tearing down the community. It is not

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Hi Isabel, > PS. Is Hytham laying low hoping to be forgotten? He doesn't seem to have been the person violating the NDA, so that part of the accusation doesn't relate to him. Cheers, Sander signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP

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Dear community members, I am in full agreement with you Barry! Dear Sunday, 1. You are tearing down the community. It is not fair what you're doing and neither is it worth it. 2. You are exhibiting malice and corruption and that's the last thing the community needs. 3. You have been unethical and

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*I was really confused when I read this story of allegation here.* *I fully support the view of Mr Noah, who came out with more clarifications on the matter.* *So please my dear brother Sunday, kindly step down from the board of Directors for the sake of the Afrinic business, as many are trying to

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Dear all, We know for a fact Mr Sunday violated the NDA as he has even admitted it also. At this point, can we stop expecting him to do honorable thing and step down as a board member? Is there no law within our esteemed RIR that compels such an act to be dealt with immediately? Why are

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Dear Sunday My two cent as member of this community As much as we can wait for the investigation committe to deal with issues of harassment, Am more concerned about you ,while as the board of director and chairman, used your position to share private board discussion ref: Afrinic business

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Dear Community Leaders and Members, 'once online echoes into eternity' If we consider the above i advise that we make our contributions to the committee setup. Kindly await final reports. The image of AFRINIC is more at stake than any individual. Regards. -Akinbo A. A. Cornerstone. On Wed, Mar

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ht to > defend themselves. > >   > > Kind Regards, > > Gabriella. > >   > > From: Mirriam [mailto:mirriamlau...@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 10:45 PM > To: Consolate Gabriella A. Wangwe <conrald...@gmail.com> > Cc: General Discussions of AF

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ral Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>; members-disc...@afrinic.net Subject: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment Dear members and the Community, Over the last few days, some allegations have been made that are serious and by very nature threaten to further divide t

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[mailto:sfola...@gmail.com] Sent: 20 March 2018 18:50 To: Marcus K. G. Adomey <mado...@hotmail.com>; General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>; members-disc...@afrinic.net; Andrew Alston <andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of

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Dear Sunday, >>>These are the scenarios that make it very difficult for leaders. Leaders huh? >>>to operate effectively, due to vested interests. Like the vested interest you had in a junior staff to the point of sharing sub sections of the private conversation on board business ref: the

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ssions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment Gabriella, Sorry but I will quote below part of Sundays email. -- "While I categorically deny any claims of any harassment levied at me, and believe

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18 5:39 PM To: community-discuss@afrinic.net Subject: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment Despite that this lady has raised this several times with the HR and CEO. Did the HR Manager did something to solve this issue??? The HR Manager is not competent at all in his field. He is USELESS. Why do we

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eneral Discussions of AFRINIC; members-disc...@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment Dear Former Chair, I am saddened by what I read here, and actually more than a little disturbed. Firstly – let me state categorically that I agree with waiting for the investi

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2018-03-19 6:04 GMT+00:00 Mirriam : > > Hold on, are you saying that employees must have direct line of reporting > amongst themselves for suspension or warning of any kind to > For the suspension - YES. When an alegation is make. The accuse person is INNOCENT UNTIL

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I think it is quite chicken to direct replies to an anonymizing emailer. I have, therefore overridden the reply-to set on the original message. > On Mar 19, 2018, at 08:00 , kaweshesichali wrote: > > Despite that this lady has raised this several times with the HR and

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Chevalier Hold on, are you saying that employees must have direct line of reporting amongst themselves for suspension or warning of any kind to apply therefore an employee from a different department can harrass another employee and not be called out. This is wrong, harrasmemt of any nature

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2018-03-18 11:29 GMT+00:00 Badru Ntege : > > > > On 18 Mar 2018, at 12:59, Chevalier du Borg > wrote: > > > INNOCENT UNTIL PROVE GUILTY. --- i think that is principle you won't argue > > The ultimate judge is the committee that is being set up

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2018-03-17 4:53 GMT+00:00 Badru Ntege : > > > And allegation or not in any organization sensitive to Gender issues the > person who used the language being alleged should have been sent home > immediately with full pay while issues are resolved. > INNOCENT UNTIL

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Sent from my iPhone On 18 Mar 2018, at 12:59, Chevalier du Borg > wrote: INNOCENT UNTIL PROVE GUILTY. --- i think that is principle you won't argue The ultimate judge is the committee that is being set up by board. But that does not

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2018-03-17 4:36 GMT+00:00 Badru Ntege : > > > It’s only fare that non of us tries to silence each other. It’s a > community mailing list let’s allow the community to openly express their > sentiments. > pronounce guilt at allegation when you are not judge is not show

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2018-03-17 0:19 GMT+00:00 Badru Ntege : > > > Now I hope the board also handles the member of staff who has disgraced > our female employee and continues to mistreat our staff. > INNOCENT UNTIL PROVE GUILTY. -- Borg le Chevalier ___

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2018-03-16 22:57 GMT+00:00 Sri Sageguru : > > then when will the others like Finance Director etc. do the honorable > thing? > INNOCENT UNTIL PROVE GUILTY. And because having executive step down at each allegation is a good DOS attack on the company with consequence that are

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t; > > Please – do what is right – and I strongly believe you know what that is. > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > *From:* Sunday Folayan [mailto:sfola...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 16 March 2018 17:38 > *To:* General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discus

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;sfola...@gmail.com>; General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>; members-disc...@afrinic.net Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment Community It's nice that our colleague Andrew finally saw the light but I think my decision to release factual infor

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embers-disc...@afrinic.net<mailto:members-disc...@afrinic.net> Subject: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment Dear members and the Community, Over the last few days, some allegations have been made that are serious and by very nature threaten to further divide this community and represent

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>>; members-disc...@afrinic.net<mailto:members-disc...@afrinic.net> Subject: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment Dear members and the Community, Over the last few days, some allegations have been made that are serious and by very nature threaten to further divide this communit

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d far beneath the man I know you to > be. > > > > Please – do what is right – and I strongly believe you know what that is. > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > *From:* Sunday Folayan [mailto:sfola...@gmail.com <sfola...@gmail.com>] > *Sent:* 1

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t;mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>>; members-disc...@afrinic.net<mailto:members-disc...@afrinic.net> Subject: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment Dear members and the Community, Over the last few days, some allegations have been made that are serious and by very nat

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d what you are doing > now I find to the height of hypocrisy and far beneath the man I know you to > be. > > > > Please – do what is right – and I strongly believe you know what that is. > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > > *From:* Sunday Folayan [mailto:sfola..

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embers-disc...@afrinic.net Subject: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment Dear members and the Community, Over the last few days, some allegations have been made that are serious and by very nature threaten to further divide this community and represent a threat to the AfriNIC organizati

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5:38 PM To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss@afrinic.net>; members-disc...@afrinic.net Subject: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment Dear members and the Community, Over the last few days, some allegations have been made that are serious and by very nature th

[Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

Dear members and the Community, Over the last few days, some allegations have been made that are serious and by very nature threaten to further divide this community and represent a threat to the AfriNIC organization. I believe the unity of the community is as important as the sanctity of