Re: From editor of ... (Re: Newsletter.)

2003-08-26 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 03:39 AM 8/26/2003, David Reid wrote: 3. Apache Newsletter is one of the News from the ASF material, which people who do not have much time to read all the websites in the Apache.org have been eager to get in the past, so it fit to the original usage of [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list and I

RE: EU Software Patents

2003-08-27 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 12:44 PM 8/26/2003, Danny Angus wrote: If anyone's counting a show of hands here I'm a European and +1 to opposing software patents in Europe and +1 to the ASF supporting the demo. I will say that I'm pleased the members were able to turn the ship so quickly to support the initiative, it

Re: FW: Microsoft's patent loss rattles tech community

2003-09-07 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 05:47 PM 9/5/2003, David N. Welton wrote: Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: NO ONE should be permitted to have IP rights over public infrastructure standards, except for the body charged with protecting them for the public. Open Standards must be just that: OPEN. Oh, I

Re: The board is not responsible!

2003-10-22 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 09:12 AM 10/22/2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:31:20 - (Subject: RE: The board is not responsible!) Magnus ?or Torfason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't the ASF Board ultimately responsible This is just wrong. Responsibility lies with the individual commiters,

Re: Transition of the subscribers to announce MLs

2003-12-01 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 07:00 AM 12/1/2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: *Maybe* resulted from good marketing effort :-) BTW - realize that Apache is not only not-for-profit, but is a charitable organization. Some folks might not be comfortable with the phrase 'marketing' although it certainly applies. If you want to

Re: Transition of the subscribers to announce MLs

2003-12-01 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 12:02 PM 12/1/2003, Bill Stoddard wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: At 07:00 AM 12/1/2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: *Maybe* resulted from good marketing effort :-) BTW - realize that Apache is not only not-for-profit, but is a charitable organization. Some folks might not be comfortable

Re: Plan of the future Newsletter

2003-12-24 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 10:52 PM 12/23/2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: Hello, I will take back my remarks upon this issue. Sorry for the annoyance. What remarks? What annoyance? I'm confused because I see what looks like the middle of some conversation that didn't appear on community, perhaps? The entire

Re: Disregard Re: Undermining the Incubator

2004-01-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 12:36 AM 1/13/2004, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: The Send button is near the close button. I missed. Suggestion from an httpd/apr hothead to our community forum participants [NOT specifically ACO]... Delay sending messages: [30] (minutes) is a really great option to enable, well worth the effort

Re: ASF Board Summary for January 21, 2004

2004-02-04 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 02:29 PM 1/24/2004, Paul Libbrecht wrote: Everytime I see an open-source license coming out, I keep having the same question: what is expected, what is known (and known to fail), in terms of applicability of this license in other countries than the USA ? Keep in mind that unlike some

Fwd: ASP.NET support for httpd project?

2004-02-05 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
I'm sending this out as a feeler to discover how large a community one of two proposals might have for incubation, and eventual incorporation as subprojects of the httpd top-level project. First proposal, I'm in the process of ensuring that all of the I's are dotted and T's are crossed to offer

Re: Apache should join the open source java discussion

2004-03-19 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 01:46 PM 3/18/2004, Antonio Gallardo wrote: If you read the open letters there is clear they suggest an full GPL license, because if not maybe it can end (intentionally) in a fork. As Noel said already - GPL does not inhibit forking. The license does prohibit adopting the same name for a

Re: [ANN] HP memo forecasts MS patent attacks on free software

2004-07-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 03:22 PM 7/21/2004, Antonio Gallardo wrote: While your are right about the licenses cocktail. I think the comment is OT. The main point to post the article to the list, was let the rest of us know we are on target. That is all. Perhaps 2 years from now we will know what is prepared for us. If

Re: Inexpensive Lists

2004-07-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 05:33 PM 7/21/2004, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On Wednesday, July 21, 2004 4:10 PM -0600 Adam R. B. Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you keep assuming it is for chit chat? If it were [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it was clear (community imposed/whatever) to be about Java @ ASF, wouldn't that make

Re: Florida election shenanigans caught on tape

2004-11-20 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 03:04 PM 11/19/2004, Brian Behlendorf wrote: This may be completely inappropriate for this list... but this, is so, *wrong*. And no matter what side of the political spectrum you sit on, I know transparency and auditability and trust is important to you - that's why you're here at Apache.

RE: Florida election shenanigans caught on tape

2004-11-20 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 11:08 AM 11/20/2004, Noel J. Bergman wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: The only result (if proved true) is the complete loss of faith in any form of electronic voting by the general public for at least the next 20 years. You're kidding, right? Is there anyone here who has faith

RE: [ANN] Avalon Closed

2004-12-17 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 08:30 PM 12/16/2004, Stephen McConnell wrote: Concerning our decision making processes, I have a couple of questions... * What do you think is the role of a PMC in our decision making process? They have absolute decision making process within the board's mandate for their project.

RE: [ANN] Avalon Closed

2004-12-20 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 09:21 PM 12/19/2004, Stephen McConnell wrote: Maybe this about making Apache a better place by identifying hypocrisy here out in the open instead of behind the protection of private lists. Maybe it's about dealing with the breach of procedure by the Chair of a PMC and ensuring that this does

Re: ApacheCon Europe 2005 Call for Participation is open

2005-03-04 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
The deadline is tomorrow, so I suppose it might be late to ask a foolish question; conference/presentations are in English? Mein Deutch ist nicht so gut. At 07:14 AM 2/8/2005, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: If you'd like to give a presentation, please go to the Web site

General interest; BRR initative

2005-08-11 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
http://www.openbrr.org/ Thought some here might be interested in participating the the public comment period. What is it? Business Readiness Rating (BRR) is being proposed as a new standard model for rating open source software. It is intended to enable the entire community (enterprise

Re: Question on sending email to PMCs ?

2006-04-06 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Matthias Wessendorf wrote: So I'd like to mail an informal email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that all PMC member know about that award. As you've announced this to the public community@ list, to which all ASF members and contributors are welcome at, I'd suggest you've already done a perfectly

Re: Plans For Docathon@ApacheEU2006

2006-06-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
If there is anything on http://www.apache.org/ and across the foundation's websites that ever bothered you, *docathon* is your answer. Committers with site-wide access will be available to solve these issues and get suggestions committed to the site(s). [Please don't assault the docathon team

Crypto Issues BOF 9pm Thursday Leinster room

2006-06-28 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Please note the Crypto/Export BOF at 9pm Thursday evening in the Leinster room, Dublin. cliffs will be on hand to explain (and we can verify the details of) the BIS notification process and the way the export rules apply to our open source communities. Once the final

Re: ApacheCon Website Consultant Wanted

2007-05-10 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: here's the text I came up with. Edits/feedback before I resend this to community, members and jobs @a.o? proving once again 'reply-to munging considered harmful' has nothing to do with the munging - it's all EBCAD (error between chair and desk). Anyways

Re: [Announcement] UIMA Innovation Grants - proposals sought from University full-time faculty members

2007-06-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Filip at Apache wrote: but I have a question, is community@apache.org the right place for this kind of solicitation? Certainly - if community@ isn't about discussing and solicting to grow a community, I'm not sure what it's here for :) Unlike committers@, the community@ list is

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-06-28 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Craig L Russell wrote: I have a question about this part of the guidelines: Project source code and documentation must be donated to the ASF under a Contributor's License Agreement. This just absolutely clarifies the intent of the author, it's the simplest method of conveying your-code to

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-06-28 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Craig L Russell wrote: Donated source code and documentation must carry the ASF copyright and be placed under the Apache License. Code and documentation donated to the ASF must be maintained on ASF hardware. Obtaining a non-exclusive ASF copyright on all

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-06-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Henri - I grok what you are saying. This isn't a Code of Conduct, it's a top-level description of our ethos. Two more inline... Henri Yandell wrote: On 6/28/07, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of the ASF Members have indicated a wish to draft a code of conduct. A working draft of a

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-06-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Ted Husted wrote: The example project guidelines and cultural principles were added to put the draft community guidelines into context. Though, we might not want to post all three items together as a block. Yea - I'm sort of confused. I'm looking to inject two more concepts, reinforce that

Re: Community Guidelines (was Code of Conduct)

2007-07-01 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Thomas Vandahl wrote: Why is the use of author tags discouraged? I found these to be valuable information when trying to understand a piece of code, simply by recognizing the style of a certain author. 1. once committed, it isn't your code, it's the project's code. (Not from a copyright

An interesting one from yesterday's /.

2007-09-26 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Survey Says GPLv3 Is Shunned from the opinion-is-divided dept. posted by kdawson on Tuesday September 25, @16:37 (GNU is Not Unix) http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/25/2011246 Scroll down to 'Other findings' :) Bill

Promote your project, 72 hour countdown

2008-04-05 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
If your project's NEW technology needs exposure, if you are in search of users for these new features or to recruit more committers to a new code base, and you are in Amsterdam for ApacheCon/EU, this last reminder message is for you. We will close the program and print the final schedule on

Re: ApacheCon Evolution/Revolution

2008-04-15 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
David Welton wrote: Not having gone to any of them lately, (too much $$$), I don't really have much to say, but if there's to be a revolution, the first thing to go out the window ought to be training as a noun. As much as I agree that this is a perversion of the English language, our

Re: Handling security vulnerabilities at Apache

2009-01-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jukka Zitting wrote: The process at .../security/ answers parts of that question, but I find some steps like the suggestion to obscure the commit that fixes a vulnerability a bit awkward. One idea I came up with is to have a read-protected area in svn where (only?) security fixes can be

Re: [OpenPGP] Moving Away From DSA and SHA-1

2009-08-11 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jukka Zitting wrote: Hi, On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Rich Bowenrbo...@rcbowen.com wrote: Is it possible to regenerate my gpg key without losing all the signatures on my existing key? To bootstrap the new key, you could sign it with your old key. Not sure if that should be enough

Re: Arrack

2009-10-12 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Shane Curcuru wrote: Reminder for all: the ApacheCon group room rate discount ($169/night) is scheduled to end TODAY, so if you're planning on staying at the hotel, register your room RIGHT NOW! http://www.us.apachecon.com/c/acus2009/about/venue Extended - through the 18th - you all have

Re: ApacheCon at ASIA

2009-10-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: Seems that it's (mentioned) mailing list is open to the members only. Correct, and please forgive Rich. Reflex response :) Discuess here would be helpful for the participants (including commiters only) don't you think? No. Not really. The mechanics of creating a

Re: ApacheCon at ASIA

2009-10-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: About Bali (Near Java, Jakarta) issue, I know intertnational conductors who are managing the big events at Bali island. Then please, leave this discussion from this list, and introduce these people to the concom folks, simply email concom at apache.org with a letter

Re: ApacheCon at ASIA

2009-10-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: About Bali (Near Java, Jakarta) issue, I know intertnational conductors who are managing the big events at Bali island. Then please, leave this discussion from this list, and introduce these people to the concom folks, simply email

Re: ApacheCon at ASIA

2009-10-22 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: I had longly thought that this is for the committers' relaxation room. (Freely but with RESPECTs to each other) Tetsuya, you have show the utmost lack of respect on this forum to the chairman of the organization, who in the most friendly and forgiving way attempted to

Re: Respects (Re: ApacheCon at ASIA)

2009-10-24 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: The Apache Software Fundation's rule - there is no relationships between superior and inferior. I mean, hierarchy. (bureaucratism is one of them) Nope. There are those with merit, and those with increasing or decreasing fractions of merit, and those with no merit.

Re: WANTED: Old Apache Community Photos (and your participation!)

2009-11-01 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Ryan Bloom wrote: Any chance this will be recorded? It would be kind of fun to see this for some of the old timers who can't be there. Last I heard, we will have webcasts for downloads of the three keynote sessions for this ApacheCon, so yes. Will update community/party etc with news once

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-23 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 9/23/2010 10:37 AM, Grant Ingersoll wrote: At any rate, my motivation for asking is that I'm writing an article on some thoughts in this area spurred by something a client told me (at a very old, established company, mind you) about why they wanted to get the word out that they were

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-23 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 9/23/2010 11:13 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: The other thing I'd say is that the answers to these questions are going to depend a lot on the particular developers in question. A couple of people have commented here on how great it is to be able to dig in and find the root cause of a bug, and

Re: Are devs who work on or use open source happier in their employment?

2010-09-23 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 9/23/2010 11:40 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:20 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@apache.org wrote: On 9/23/2010 11:13 PM, Martin Cooper wrote: The other thing I'd say is that the answers to these questions are going to depend a lot on the particular developers in question

Re: Liberal corporate open source policies

2011-03-22 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 3/22/2011 7:19 PM, Keith Curtis wrote: I guess some might consider a solution like that no worse than any other but I think endorsing such a stack goes against a good policy. If you are going to make a policy, you should love the results it endorses. That is all I was trying to

Re: Liberal corporate open source policies

2011-03-22 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 3/22/2011 10:24 PM, Keith Curtis wrote: I try to be pragmatic as well but free software is better and cheaper and so these worthy goals and reasons should be reflected in the policies on a topic. the policies, hmmm. Those would be 'your policies'. Which may or may not be what Marvin is

Re: Liberal corporate open source policies

2011-03-29 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On 3/29/2011 5:52 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: In my opinion, it's important that the Policy make only one major distinction: between open source software and proprietary software. As a practical matter, advocating for particular technologies seems likely to alienate people at companies

Re: MSDN Subscription For Committers

2014-04-06 Thread William A. Rowe Jr.
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 12:01:38 -0500 Ryan Baxter rbaxte...@apache.org wrote: Hi, A while ago all committers were offered MSDN subscriptions from Microsoft. Mine has expired, so I went back and filled out the form[1] to apply for a subscription earlier this week. I have yet to hear anything